Next-gen console specs?

Ok so I have no idea when the next-gen consoles will be released. I don't know what sort of specs they will have. But what specs do we System Wars contributors think they should have at a MINIMUM?

I don't want Sony, Microsoft or Nintendo skimping when it comes to specs. We know that Sony put a rushed GPU into the PS3. We know that Microsoft wanted to only put 256MB of RAM into the X360 and we've all seen what Nintendo did to the Wii.

I think that us gamers want powerful next-gen machines. Ok, so uber-powerful machines isn't realistic but something decent would be good.

I think the minimum specs for a next-gen console should be this:

Quad-Core CPU running at 3.2Ghz w/ 4MB cache.

4GB system RAM (preferably more)

Customized medium-high end PC graphics card as the GPU.

I think they will be weak.

1gb ram

cheap quad core

5770 or slightly weaker gpu

Ok so I have no idea when the next-gen consoles will be released. I don't know what sort of specs they will have. But what specs do we System Wars contributors think they should have at a MINIMUM?

I don't want Sony, Microsoft or Nintendo skimping when it comes to specs. We know that Sony put a rushed GPU into the PS3. We know that Microsoft wanted to only put 256MB of RAM into the X360 and we've all seen what Nintendo did to the Wii.

I think that us gamers want powerful next-gen machines. Ok, so uber-powerful machines isn't realistic but something decent would be good.

I think the minimum specs for a next-gen console should be this:

Quad-Core CPU running at 3.2Ghz w/ 4MB cache.

4GB system RAM (preferably more)

Customized medium-high end PC graphics card as the GPU.

CwlHeddwyn

if you wanna pay $600 U S dolla

possibly something like amd fusion lol

Ok so I have no idea when the next-gen consoles will be released. I don't know what sort of specs they will have. But what specs do we System Wars contributors think they should have at a MINIMUM?

I don't want Sony, Microsoft or Nintendo skimping when it comes to specs. We know that Sony put a rushed GPU into the PS3. We know that Microsoft wanted to only put 256MB of RAM into the X360 and we've all seen what Nintendo did to the Wii.

I think that us gamers want powerful next-gen machines. Ok, so uber-powerful machines isn't realistic but something decent would be good.

I think the minimum specs for a next-gen console should be this:

Quad-Core CPU running at 3.2Ghz w/ 4MB cache.

4GB system RAM (preferably more)

Customized medium-high end PC graphics card as the GPU.

CwlHeddwyn

4 or 5 years away at a guess. However if you extropolate the differences between the xbox and xbox 360 and the ps2 to the ps3 you could make an informed guess.

as a minimum I'd like to see consoles have a good up to date quad core cpu, with a graphics card near the

hd radeon 5870 level.

I don't know about ram, 2 gigs would be fine but since we've had alot of ram limitations this gen maybe they should go for 4 gigs.

as a minimum I'd like to see consoles have a good up to date quad core cpu, with a graphics card near the

hd radeon 5870 level.

I don't know about ram, 2 gigs would be fine but since we've had alot of ram limitations this gen maybe they should go for 4 gigs.

theuncharted34

never gonna happen in the next 4 years you know lol

I don't know but they'll likely be better than the best gaming rigs today. Especially seeing as they're still a couple of years away from releasing.incuensuocha

the best gaming rigs today cost upwards of $2000. i sure hope you like paying thru the nose for the next consoles in a couple years. start saving

Next gen Nintendo is rumored (by devs and well informed ppl from videogames industry) to be announced this year (its also absolutely logical considering pretty much nonexistant Wii lineup). It is likely to have quad-core CPU, but noone knows any specs about it. In terms of graphics cards, most ppl believe that it will be a custom chip with specs somewhere around nVidia GTX 460 and RAM should be around 2GB (RAM and VRAM combined). As you can see its pretty huge leap over Wii as well as over PS3 and 360, so maybe we will see some seriously impressive console graphics in 2012!

Next-gen Playstation will not be announced at least until 2013 and I have no info about next XBOX.

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

as a minimum I'd like to see consoles have a good up to date quad core cpu, with a graphics card near the

hd radeon 5870 level.

I don't know about ram, 2 gigs would be fine but since we've had alot of ram limitations this gen maybe they should go for 4 gigs.

Firebird-5

never gonna happen in the next 4 years you know lol

are you saying the consoles won't be released for 4 more years or that they'll never have these specs? by 2013 all 3 next gen consoles will be released I guarentee it, and they won't skimp on the power.

[QUOTE="incuensuocha"]I don't know but they'll likely be better than the best gaming rigs today. Especially seeing as they're still a couple of years away from releasing.Firebird-5

the best gaming rigs today cost upwards of $2000. i sure hope you like paying thru the nose for the next consoles in a couple years. start saving

he meant excluding the multiple gpu rigs :P

[QUOTE="Firebird-5"]

[QUOTE="incuensuocha"]I don't know but they'll likely be better than the best gaming rigs today. Especially seeing as they're still a couple of years away from releasing.theuncharted34

the best gaming rigs today cost upwards of $2000. i sure hope you like paying thru the nose for the next consoles in a couple years. start saving

he meant excluding the multiple gpu rigs :P

[QUOTE="Firebird-5"]

[QUOTE="incuensuocha"]I don't know but they'll likely be better than the best gaming rigs today. Especially seeing as they're still a couple of years away from releasing.theuncharted34

the best gaming rigs today cost upwards of $2000. i sure hope you like paying thru the nose for the next consoles in a couple years. start saving

he meant excluding the multiple gpu rigs :P

mobo: 300

2600k: 350

gtx580: 600

8gb ram: 200

quality psu: 200

solid state: 200

misc: 200

2050 bux

edit: case: 200

2250bux

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

[QUOTE="Firebird-5"]

the best gaming rigs today cost upwards of $2000. i sure hope you like paying thru the nose for the next consoles in a couple years. start saving

call_of_duty_10

he meant excluding the multiple gpu rigs :P

the i7 980x is a huge waste of money. you can get the i5 500k sandy bridge cpu and match the i7 980x for a 5th of the price.

the extreme edition cpus are always way way overpriced and not necessary.

[QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"][QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

he meant excluding the multiple gpu rigs :P

theuncharted34

the i7 980x is a huge waste of money. you can get the i5 500k sandy bridge cpu and match the i7 980x for a 5th of the price.

the extreme edition cpus are always way way overpriced and not necessary.

you said the best

[QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"][QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

he meant excluding the multiple gpu rigs :P

theuncharted34

the i7 980x is a huge waste of money. you can get the i5 500k sandy bridge cpu and match the i7 980x for a 5th of the price.

the extreme edition cpus are always way way overpriced on not necessary.

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

[QUOTE="Firebird-5"]

the best gaming rigs today cost upwards of $2000. i sure hope you like paying thru the nose for the next consoles in a couple years. start saving

Firebird-5

he meant excluding the multiple gpu rigs :P

mobo: 300

2600k: 350

gtx580: 600

8gb ram: 200

quality psu: 200

solid state: 200

misc: 200

2050 bux

edit: case: 200

2250bux

uh, no that's some terrible budgeting and you got some prices wrong.

are you saying the consoles won't be released for 4 more years or that they'll never have these specs? by 2013 all 3 next gen consoles will be released I guarentee it, and they won't skimp on the power.

theuncharted34

4 or 5 years. The Super wii may be released before then but I doubt Sony or MS will invest in a new console in this economic climate.

Also the success of the wii shows that console owners don't worry so much about raw power.

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

[QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"] Single GPU rigs can be that expensive. i7 980x alone costs a thousand bucks.call_of_duty_10

the i7 980x is a huge waste of money. you can get the i5 500k sandy bridge cpu and match the i7 980x for a 5th of the price.

the extreme edition cpus are always way way overpriced on not necessary.

but it's not, the i7 2600k is only 328 dollars.

I also predict that they will have motion controls.Many hardcore console gamers will get angry and switch to PC gaming.

The casuals won't spend much money on games and gaming will die until the big 3 recover.

[QUOTE="Firebird-5"]

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

he meant excluding the multiple gpu rigs :P

theuncharted34

mobo: 300

2600k: 350

gtx580: 600

8gb ram: 200

quality psu: 200

solid state: 200

misc: 200

2050 bux

edit: case: 200

2250bux

uh, no that's some terrible budgeting and you got some prices wrong.

you said the best

i live in australia please realise that some parts might be more expensive in other parts of the world. and i imported some tax free from the uk.

still, buy a rampage extreme and it's more than that. buy a g1 killer it's more than that. buy a 16GB kit it's more than that (way more). buy certain cases it's more than that. i didn't even include cooling. quality psus can cost more than that. solid states over 60GB cost more than that.

the budgeting is fine, you won't find a GTX580 in the next console

Quad (or more) core CPUs, 4 to 6GB of RAM, and a better GPU than what we currently have on the PC.

Keep in mind they're still a few years away. They'll certainly be able to keep up with a good PC of the time they're released, and likely better than what a good PC is like today.

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

[QUOTE="Firebird-5"]

mobo: 300

2600k: 350

gtx580: 600

8gb ram: 200

quality psu: 200

solid state: 200

misc: 200

2050 bux

edit: case: 200

2250bux

Firebird-5

uh, no that's some terrible budgeting and you got some prices wrong.

you said the best

i live in australia please realise that some parts might be more expensive in other parts of the world. and i imported some tax free from the uk.

still, buy a rampage extreme and it's more than that. buy a g1 killer it's more than that. buy a 16GB kit it's more than that (way more). buy certain cases it's more than that. i didn't even include cooling. quality psus can cost more than that. solid states over 60GB cost more than that.

the budgeting is fine, you won't find a GTX580 in the next console

I understand what you're saying, but you can't add up pc parts prices and say that'd be how much a console would cost. for one thing, consoles don't need 16gb of ram or even 8gb, so 4gb for the consoles would be enough to match those high amounts of ram. for another thing motherboards on the consoles are very customised and not very expensive, thery're made with only one chipset and mind. the body of the console is not that expensive either, no where near around a $200 dollar pc case. and furthermore console makers buy hardware in bulk, which drives the price down alot. the list just goes on and on.

you won't find an exact gtx580 in the next consoles but something customised and around the 580 level.

[QUOTE="Firebird-5"]

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

uh, no that's some terrible budgeting and you got some prices wrong.

theuncharted34

you said the best

i live in australia please realise that some parts might be more expensive in other parts of the world. and i imported some tax free from the uk.

still, buy a rampage extreme and it's more than that. buy a g1 killer it's more than that. buy a 16GB kit it's more than that (way more). buy certain cases it's more than that. i didn't even include cooling. quality psus can cost more than that. solid states over 60GB cost more than that.

the budgeting is fine, you won't find a GTX580 in the next console

I understand what you're saying, but you can't add up pc parts prices and say that'd be how much a console would cost. for one thing, consoles don't need 16gb of ram or even 8gb, so 4gb for the consoles would be enough to match those high amounts of ram. for another thing motherboards on the consoles are very customised and not very expensive, thery're made with only one chipset and mind. the body of the console is not that expensive either, no where near around a $200 dollar pc case. and furthermore console makers buy hardware in bulk, which drives the price down alot. the list just goes on and on.

you won't find an exact gtx580 in the next consoles but something customised and around the 580 level.

4GB =/= 16Gb unfortunately dunno what world you're from

how do you intend to deal with the heat a GTX580 GPU produces, even increases in efficiency in the next 4 years a 580 in consoles would produce a lot more problems than RRoD (possibly house fires)

point being: thinking a console would be as powerful as the most powerful single GPU (single GPU or PCB? because there are 6990s, 590s and let's not forget SLI or crossfire) PC today is just wishful thinking

[QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"][QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

the i7 980x is a huge waste of money. you can get the i5 500k sandy bridge cpu and match the i7 980x for a 5th of the price.

the extreme edition cpus are always way way overpriced on not necessary.

theuncharted34

but it's not, the i7 2600k is only 328 dollars.

I have to ask where is the advantage to console gaming anymore? You might get graphics that match whatever the PC's are doing at that moment, but as fast as the gaming industry evolves, PC's will again pass the consoles by in sheer performance within 2 years of their launch if not before. Also consider that in order for the next Gen of consoles to compete or outperform high end gaming rigs, the cost at retail will be astronomical. You are kidding yourselves if you dont think that the price point Sony had for the PS3 at its launch wont be the norm for the next XBOX or PS3. There is no way that Sony or MS can make their new consoles technologically competitive with medium to high end PC's and not have them be expensive. Ill go on record right now and predict a minimum $499 price point for the next XBOX and PS consoles.

4GB =/= 16Gb unfortunately dunno what world you're from

how do you intend to deal with the heat a GTX580 GPU produces, even increases in efficiency in the next 4 years a 580 in consoles would produce a lot more problems than RRoD (possibly house fires)

point being: thinking a console would be as powerful as the most powerful single GPU (single GPU or PCB? because there are 6990s, 590s and let's not forget SLI or crossfire) PC today is just wishful thinkingFirebird-5

1gb ram

cheap quad core

5770 or slightly weaker gpu

call_of_duty_10

[QUOTE="Firebird-5"]

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

uh, no that's some terrible budgeting and you got some prices wrong.

you said the best

i live in australia please realise that some parts might be more expensive in other parts of the world. and i imported some tax free from the uk.

still, buy a rampage extreme and it's more than that. buy a g1 killer it's more than that. buy a 16GB kit it's more than that (way more). buy certain cases it's more than that. i didn't even include cooling. quality psus can cost more than that. solid states over 60GB cost more than that.

the budgeting is fine, you won't find a GTX580 in the next console

I understand what you're saying, but you can't add up pc parts prices and say that'd be how much a console would cost. for one thing, consoles don't need 16gb of ram or even 8gb, so 4gb for the consoles would be enough to match those high amounts of ram. for another thing motherboards on the consoles are very customised and not very expensive, thery're made with only one chipset and mind. the body of the console is not that expensive either, no where near around a $200 dollar pc case. and furthermore console makers buy hardware in bulk, which drives the price down alot. the list just goes on and on.

you won't find an exact gtx580 in the next consoles but something customised and around the 580 level.

Next gen is up in the air in regard to specification.

On one hand, every generation sees a significant hardware leap. But given rising development costs, and the success of the Wii, we may see a minor jump over the current systems.

It's any ones guess at this point really.

I honestly think both Sony & Microsoft will go with a high-end quad core CPU. Games still haven't got to the point to where quad cores aren't enough, it's far cheaper than hexa-core, and lastly, no use in spending more for the oddball CPU that gets screwed over because the other console is the lowest common denominator.

And before someone says Sony would be taking a step back, no they would not. There are quad-cores that perform better than teh cell now. Thats the power of technology.


As for RAM I'm gonna say anywhere between 2-4GBs. However, I would be saddened if they went any less than 4 considering how cheap DDR3 RAM is these days.

Lastly, the GPU will probably be something similar to a GTX460 or GTX550. Yea, yea, I know how much the video cards they used were priced at when the consoles released. That said, the card's designs at the time had significantly smaller boards, significantly less power consumption, and significantly less temperatures. Even with the GTX460 (or similar card), I would be surprised to see the next consoles to be the same size as the original design of the ones this generation. I could only imagine if they used a $300 card, trying to deal with all of issues that come with it.

Next gen is up in the air in regard to specification.

On one hand, every generation sees a significant hardware leap. But given rising development costs, and the success of the Wii, we may see a minor jump over the current systems.

It's any ones guess at this point really.

AnnoyedDragon

Overclocked 360 and ps3.MFDOOM1983

If Sony and MS develops they're own CPU, they will probably have an 8 core CPU, or some crazy 32xSPE Cell type CPU. But if they use the expencive companies like AMD or Intel they won't get more than a dual core that is made for everything else than gaming. A console CPU does'nt need to be as complex as a PC CPU, therefor they're cheaper to produce but handles games the same or even better.

As for RAM, I think they will go for speed rather than quantity. 2-4GB Ram that is faster than anything in PC's at the time.

And then it's the GPU, I just hope Sony does'nt rush it this time. Maybe they can develop they're own GPU, work with some smaller chip company and develop a powerfull GPU that can compete with the others.

Nintendo:

Decent APU
2 GBs of RAM
New Motion Control
3D Enabled?
720p Max Resolution without upscaling

Price: $299 or $399 depending on market factors.

Microsoft:

Good APU or similar OR Quad-Core CPU
GTX 550-like Graphics?
Kinect Packed In
3D Enabled
720p Max Resolution for Most Games
4GB RAM

Price: $399 or $499 depending on Market Factors and/or Business Decision's on Route

Sony:

Upgraded Cell
GTX 560-like Graphics?
3D-Enabled
1080p or 720p
4GB of RAM

Price: $399 or $499 depending on Market Factors and/or Business Decision's on Route

Newcomer; Apple:

iConsole - iGame - iPlay

Intel Quad-Core CPU
GTX 550-like Graphics
3D-Enabled
4GB of RAM
White Applish Case.

Price: $399 or $499 depending on Market Factors and/or Business Decision's on Route No Apple Tax.

Just remember that consoles don't need insane specs to produce amazing graphics. They could be weaker than today's top PCs and yet still produce better graphics eventually.

I honestly think both Sony & Microsoft will go with a high-end quad core CPU. Games still haven't got to the point to where quad cores aren't enough, it's far cheaper than hexa-core, and lastly, no use in spending more for the oddball CPU that gets screwed over because the other console is the lowest common denominator.

And before someone says Sony would be taking a step back, no they would not. There are quad-cores that perform better than teh cell now. Thats the power of technology.


As for RAM I'm gonna say anywhere between 2-4GBs. However, I would be saddened if they went any less than 4 considering how cheap DDR3 RAM is these days.

Lastly, the GPU will probably be something similar to a GTX460 or GTX550. Yea, yea, I know how much the video cards they used were priced at when the consoles released. That said, the card's designs at the time had significantly smaller boards, significantly less power consumption, and significantly less temperatures. Even with the GTX460 (or similar card), I would be surprised to see the next consoles to be the same size as the original design of the ones this generation. I could only imagine if they used a $300 card, trying to deal with all of issues that come with it.

Mystic-G

There is a possibility that Sony will stick to the next gen CELL. Even the CELL in current PS3 is on par with most quad cores in terms of FLOPS (although it has problems with floating point operations compared to quad cores).

Just remember that consoles don't need insane specs to produce amazing graphics. They could be weaker than today's top PCs and yet still produce better graphics eventually.

Giant_Panda

They most likely will be weaker than todays top PCs. Every console is a bit weaker than top high end PCs at the point of its launch.

If Sony and MS develops they're own CPU, they will probably have an 8 core CPU, or some crazy 32xSPE Cell type CPU. But if they use the expencive companies like AMD or Intel they won't get more than a dual core that is made for everything else than gaming. A console CPU does'nt need to be as complex as a PC CPU, therefor they're cheaper to produce but handles games the same or even better.

As for RAM, I think they will go for speed rather than quantity. 2-4GB Ram that is faster than anything in PC's at the time.

And then it's the GPU, I just hope Sony does'nt rush it this time. Maybe they can develop they're own GPU, work with some smaller chip company and develop a powerfull GPU that can compete with the others.

Martin_G_N

This is an amazing example of 'making stuff up as I go along'.

Sony making their own 8 core cpu and mega powerful gpu! Do you think that if Sony could make these magic chips they would have done so already and crushed ati/nvidia?

I want them to be powerfull but more important than that would be making them easy to develop for.

I think they will be weak.

1gb ram

cheap quad core

5770 or slightly weaker gpu

call_of_duty_10

If they end up coming out in 2012-2013, I'm expecting AT LEAST: A six-core, a card as powerful as a 6970, 2GB of RAM (Would say 4 but consoles might not need it, unless they become even more like PC's), and a 500 GB hard drive.tagyhag

[QUOTE="tagyhag"]If they end up coming out in 2012-2013, I'm expecting AT LEAST: A six-core, a card as powerful as a 6970, 2GB of RAM (Would say 4 but consoles might not need it, unless they become even more like PC's), and a 500 GB hard drive.Mystic-G