Next-gen Xbox and PS are probably still a few years away

The people who think that the next machines from MS and Sony could launch as soon as next year are a little deluded imo. It will probably take atleast two more years before they come out, possibly more. The 360 and PS3 will stick around for a while, still. There is no reason to rush with new hardware and taking a loss on it when old hardware still sells. It makes sense since the install bases of the 360 and PS3 are pretty big and this means better software sales than a new and expensive generation. I don't doubt we'll eventually see them but just not anytime soon.

i don't think i even care anymore. i will prolly just bite the bullet and build a new pc sometime in the next few months.

2014 is when i think it will be released.

The people who think that the next machines from MS and Sony could launch as soon as next year are a little deluded imo. It will probably take atleast two more years before they come out, possibly more. The 360 and PS3 will stick around for a while, still. There is no reason to rush with new hardware and taking a loss on it when old hardware still sells. It makes sense since the install bases of the 360 and PS3 are pretty big and this means better software sales than a new and expensive generation. I don't doubt we'll eventually see them but just not anytime soon.

nameless12345

The people who think that the next machines from MS and Sony could launch as soon as next year are a little deluded imo. It will probably take atleast two more years before they come out, possibly more. The 360 and PS3 will stick around for a while, still. There is no reason to rush with new hardware and taking a loss on it when old hardware still sells. It makes sense since the install bases of the 360 and PS3 are pretty big and this means better software sales than a new and expensive generation. I don't doubt we'll eventually see them but just not anytime soon.

nameless12345

[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

The people who think that the next machines from MS and Sony could launch as soon as next year are a little deluded imo. It will probably take atleast two more years before they come out, possibly more. The 360 and PS3 will stick around for a while, still. There is no reason to rush with new hardware and taking a loss on it when old hardware still sells. It makes sense since the install bases of the 360 and PS3 are pretty big and this means better software sales than a new and expensive generation. I don't doubt we'll eventually see them but just not anytime soon.

StormyJoe

2014 is when i think it will be released.

sukraj

Yeah. People who are hoping to see new consoles next year have lost their mind a bit. No way in hell it's possible for that. If they are going to be released next year, it would have been announced by now.

Xbox 360 is dead already. It has no games, so it would be good to see Microsoft bringing out a new console to freshen things a bit. PS3 will suffice for a few more years.

Two reasons why PS3 will suffice for a few more years:-

• It's future-proof due to Blu-ray, powerful processor and nice XMB interface that seems never get outdated. The best interface ever.
• Lots of games! Exclusives just keep coming out.

My PS3 will be buried in dust by then

Yeah. People who are hoping to see new consoles next year have lost their mind a bit. No way in hell it's possible for that. If they are going to be released next year, it would have been announced by now.

Xbox 360 is dead already. It has no games, so it would be good to see Microsoft bringing out a new console to freshen things a bit. PS3 will suffice for a few more years.

Two reasons why PS3 will suffice for a few more years:-

• It's future-proof due to Blu-ray, powerful processor and nice XMB interface that seems never get outdated. The best interface ever.
• Lots of games! Exclusives just keep coming out.

GamerwillzPS

Lets be realistic here.

According to cows hype, PS3 could last 20 more years and graphics would allways be improving. Avatar visuals would probably the next stop. According to reality, on the other hand, PS3 is as old tech as 360. Probably a bit less capable, considering it has less usable ram and an older GPU.

In fact, both consoles are still pretty alive and games keep coming. The problem is that ppl want consoles to handle games like Planetside 2 or E3 version of Watchdogs and Star Wars 1313. Those visuals will only be seen on PCs and next gen consoles.

[QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

Yeah. People who are hoping to see new consoles next year have lost their mind a bit. No way in hell it's possible for that. If they are going to be released next year, it would have been announced by now.

Xbox 360 is dead already. It has no games, so it would be good to see Microsoft bringing out a new console to freshen things a bit. PS3 will suffice for a few more years.

Two reasons why PS3 will suffice for a few more years:-

• It's future-proof due to Blu-ray, powerful processor and nice XMB interface that seems never get outdated. The best interface ever.
• Lots of games! Exclusives just keep coming out.

PAL360

Lets be realistic here.

According to cows hype, PS3 could last 20 more years and graphics would allways be improving. Avatar visuals would probably the next stop. According to reality, on the other hand, PS3 is as old tech as 360. Probably a bit less capable, considering it has less usable ram and an older GPU.

In fact, both consoles are still pretty alive and games keep coming. The problem is that ppl want consoles to handle games like Planetside 2 or E3 version of Watchdogs and Star Wars 1313. Those visuals will only be seen on PCs and next gen consoles.

Of course not. :lol: (I was responding to the line in yellow)

Well, the PS3 hardware is more advanced than the 360, probably a year ahead. You should know that. The Cell processor and Blu-ray - remember?

I have to say this once again which you will disagree, the PS3 is more capable of rendering resource-heavy games - Look at its exclusives, especially Uncharted, Killzone and more importantly, The Last of Us and Beyond: Two Souls.

Of course, PS3 version will be the jaggier and lower-res version of E3's Watchdogs. It is ran by a PC, obviously. But if it's really optimised for the PS3 and is exclusive to it, the story would be different.

PS4 will come next year. 720 should just not come out at all though.

PS4 will come next year. 720 should just not come out at all though.

ChubbyGuy40

Lol.

The people who think that the next machines from MS and Sony could launch as soon as next year are a little deluded imo. It will probably take atleast two more years before they come out, possibly more. The 360 and PS3 will stick around for a while, still. There is no reason to rush with new hardware and taking a loss on it when old hardware still sells. It makes sense since the install bases of the 360 and PS3 are pretty big and this means better software sales than a new and expensive generation. I don't doubt we'll eventually see them but just not anytime soon.

nameless12345

It really depends on Nintendos situation. If the wiiu takes off and 3rd parties start adopting it like crazy, Sony and MS will be forced to rush their consoles out. However, at least the next playstation and xbox will be true next gen. This 720p stuff on wiiu, if it turns out to be true, is just nonsense. Wii all over again.

[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

The people who think that the next machines from MS and Sony could launch as soon as next year are a little deluded imo. It will probably take atleast two more years before they come out, possibly more. The 360 and PS3 will stick around for a while, still. There is no reason to rush with new hardware and taking a loss on it when old hardware still sells. It makes sense since the install bases of the 360 and PS3 are pretty big and this means better software sales than a new and expensive generation. I don't doubt we'll eventually see them but just not anytime soon.

captainqwark20

Why should they rush expensive and powerful systems that won't make a profit for years? 360 and PS3 are actually profitable and still sell in decent quantities. The games also sell better on them than they would on fully new systems with much smaller install bases in the first few years. Even the PS2 still sells.

Why should they rush expensive and powerful systems that won't make a profit for years?

nameless12345

To maintain interest and not diminish the publics perception of brand quality. I know in my case, and everybody I know, I'm ready for new hardware. The games industry is very stale at the moment. It needs to life, and some restructuring in the form of dlc. People may think that it will be taken further next gen, but the recent complaints about locked on disc content will surely at least make companies think about what they are doing.

Honestly? People are delusional if they think they aren't coming.

[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

Why should they rush expensive and powerful systems that won't make a profit for years?

Heirren

To maintain interest and not diminish the publics perception of brand quality. I know in my case, and everybody I know, I'm ready for new hardware. The games industry is very stale at the moment. It needs to life, and some restructuring in the form of dlc. People may think that it will be taken further next gen, but the recent complaints about locked on disc content will surely at least make companies think about what they are doing.

Well, the general public is still interested in the current-gen systems, hence the decent sales. People who think the console companies should be going for the latest and best tech and frequent releases of new hardware have no realistic insight imo. The PS2 remained populaur well after the 360 and even the PS3 came out. Infact I think Sony cut software support for PS2 a little too soon. I believe the system would still be selling in large quantities if it was getting new releases.

[QUOTE="Heirren"]

[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

Why should they rush expensive and powerful systems that won't make a profit for years?

nameless12345

To maintain interest and not diminish the publics perception of brand quality. I know in my case, and everybody I know, I'm ready for new hardware. The games industry is very stale at the moment. It needs to life, and some restructuring in the form of dlc. People may think that it will be taken further next gen, but the recent complaints about locked on disc content will surely at least make companies think about what they are doing.

Well, the general public is still interested in the current-gen systems, hence the decent sales. People who think the console companies should be going for the latest and best tech and frequent releases of new hardware have no realistic insight imo. The PS2 remained populaur well after the 360 and even the PS3 came out. Infact I think Sony cut software support for PS2 a little too soon. I believe the system would still be selling in large quantities if it was getting new releases.

[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

[QUOTE="Heirren"]

To maintain interest and not diminish the publics perception of brand quality. I know in my case, and everybody I know, I'm ready for new hardware. The games industry is very stale at the moment. It needs to life, and some restructuring in the form of dlc. People may think that it will be taken further next gen, but the recent complaints about locked on disc content will surely at least make companies think about what they are doing.

kingtito

Well, the general public is still interested in the current-gen systems, hence the decent sales. People who think the console companies should be going for the latest and best tech and frequent releases of new hardware have no realistic insight imo. The PS2 remained populaur well after the 360 and even the PS3 came out. Infact I think Sony cut software support for PS2 a little too soon. I believe the system would still be selling in large quantities if it was getting new releases.

I'm only trying to be realistic here. The thoughts expressed don't mirror my own views (I believe a console refresh should be every five years personally).

Sony had a pure loss with the PS3 for the first few years.

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

[QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

Yeah. People who are hoping to see new consoles next year have lost their mind a bit. No way in hell it's possible for that. If they are going to be released next year, it would have been announced by now.

Xbox 360 is dead already. It has no games, so it would be good to see Microsoft bringing out a new console to freshen things a bit. PS3 will suffice for a few more years.

Two reasons why PS3 will suffice for a few more years:-

• It's future-proof due to Blu-ray, powerful processor and nice XMB interface that seems never get outdated. The best interface ever.
• Lots of games! Exclusives just keep coming out.

GamerwillzPS

Lets be realistic here.

According to cows hype, PS3 could last 20 more years and graphics would allways be improving. Avatar visuals would probably the next stop. According to reality, on the other hand, PS3 is as old tech as 360. Probably a bit less capable, considering it has less usable ram and an older GPU.

In fact, both consoles are still pretty alive and games keep coming. The problem is that ppl want consoles to handle games like Planetside 2 or E3 version of Watchdogs and Star Wars 1313. Those visuals will only be seen on PCs and next gen consoles.

Of course not. :lol: (I was responding to the line in yellow)

Well, the PS3 hardware is more advanced than the 360, probably a year ahead. You should know that. The Cell processor and Blu-ray - remember?

I have to say this once again which you will disagree, the PS3 is more capable of rendering resource-heavy games - Look at its exclusives, especially Uncharted, Killzone and more importantly, The Last of Us and Beyond: Two Souls.

Of course, PS3 version will be the jaggier and lower-res version of E3's Watchdogs. It is ran by a PC, obviously. But if it's really optimised for the PS3 and is exclusive to it, the story would be different.

Haha are you serious. BR is nothing more than medium and slow at that hence why most of the games need to be installed. The Cell proved to be a horrible choice for a games console. Sorry kid but you're wrong once again.

Guess I found 1 more delusional fanboy in this thread.

[QUOTE="kingtito"][QUOTE="nameless12345"]

Well, the general public is still interested in the current-gen systems, hence the decent sales. People who think the console companies should be going for the latest and best tech and frequent releases of new hardware have no realistic insight imo. The PS2 remained populaur well after the 360 and even the PS3 came out. Infact I think Sony cut software support for PS2 a little too soon. I believe the system would still be selling in large quantities if it was getting new releases.

nameless12345

I'm only trying to be realistic here. The thoughts expressed don't mirror my own views (I believe a console refresh should be every five years personally).

[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

[QUOTE="kingtito"] The PS2 might still sell but it didn't stop Sony from releasing the next console 6-7 years later did it? I don't see how releasing 7-8 years later is considered "rushing" or "updating hardware frequently". I think the only delusional person here is you. kingtito

I'm only trying to be realistic here. The thoughts expressed don't mirror my own views (I believe a console refresh should be every five years personally).

But if they're really comming out next year we would already get some concrete info about them and not just a vague "we're working on them" and "powered by GeForce GTX 9999", don't you think?

[QUOTE="captainqwark20"][QUOTE="nameless12345"]

The people who think that the next machines from MS and Sony could launch as soon as next year are a little deluded imo. It will probably take atleast two more years before they come out, possibly more. The 360 and PS3 will stick around for a while, still. There is no reason to rush with new hardware and taking a loss on it when old hardware still sells. It makes sense since the install bases of the 360 and PS3 are pretty big and this means better software sales than a new and expensive generation. I don't doubt we'll eventually see them but just not anytime soon.

nameless12345

Why should they rush expensive and powerful systems that won't make a profit for years? 360 and PS3 are actually profitable and still sell in decent quantities. The games also sell better on them than they would on fully new systems with much smaller install bases in the first few years. Even the PS2 still sells.

720 is coming out next year. PS4 won't cause Sony can't afford to launch a new console so thats pretty much the end for them.JohnnyCageMK

I realistically think that Google will be partnered with Sony for the next console release. I think it would make more sense for google to partner with sony just for the "playstation" brand name, vs releasing a "googlebox10,000".

[QUOTE="kingtito"][QUOTE="nameless12345"]

I'm only trying to be realistic here. The thoughts expressed don't mirror my own views (I believe a console refresh should be every five years personally).

nameless12345

But if they're really comming out next year we would already get some concrete info about them and not just a vague "we're working on them" and "powered by GeForce GTX 9999", don't you think?

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

[QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

Yeah. People who are hoping to see new consoles next year have lost their mind a bit. No way in hell it's possible for that. If they are going to be released next year, it would have been announced by now.

Xbox 360 is dead already. It has no games, so it would be good to see Microsoft bringing out a new console to freshen things a bit. PS3 will suffice for a few more years.

Two reasons why PS3 will suffice for a few more years:-

• It's future-proof due to Blu-ray, powerful processor and nice XMB interface that seems never get outdated. The best interface ever.
• Lots of games! Exclusives just keep coming out.

GamerwillzPS

Lets be realistic here.

According to cows hype, PS3 could last 20 more years and graphics would allways be improving. Avatar visuals would probably the next stop. According to reality, on the other hand, PS3 is as old tech as 360. Probably a bit less capable, considering it has less usable ram and an older GPU.

In fact, both consoles are still pretty alive and games keep coming. The problem is that ppl want consoles to handle games like Planetside 2 or E3 version of Watchdogs and Star Wars 1313. Those visuals will only be seen on PCs and next gen consoles.

Of course not. :lol: (I was responding to the line in yellow)

Well, the PS3 hardware is more advanced than the 360, probably a year ahead. You should know that. The Cell processor and Blu-ray - remember?

I have to say this once again which you will disagree, the PS3 is more capable of rendering resource-heavy games - Look at its exclusives, especially Uncharted, Killzone and more importantly, The Last of Us and Beyond: Two Souls.

Of course, PS3 version will be the jaggier and lower-res version of E3's Watchdogs. It is ran by a PC, obviously. But if it's really optimised for the PS3 and is exclusive to it, the story would be different.

*sighs*

PS4 will launch in the first or second week in November 2014.

Honestly? People are delusional if they think they aren't coming.

Vari3ty

At the earliest November 2013 and most likely November 2014.

I don't think its that far off for Sony and MS to announce their hardwareat the next E3 with a holiday launch...Bring a price drop to help encourage sales and make this gen continue forward..

I WANT TOTAL WAR ON THE CONSOLES!!!:evil::evil:

I been saying 2014 and 2015 for 720 and PS4. Next year they will probably show some tech demos at E3.

I agree, anyone expecting PS4 or 720 to be released next year are in for a huge disappointment.

720 is coming out next year. PS4 won't cause Sony can't afford to launch a new console so thats pretty much the end for them.JohnnyCageMK

[QUOTE="JohnnyCageMK"]720 is coming out next year. PS4 won't cause Sony can't afford to launch a new console so thats pretty much the end for them.Heirren

I realistically think that Google will be partnered with Sony for the next console release. I think it would make more sense for google to partner with sony just for the "playstation" brand name, vs releasing a "googlebox10,000".

[QUOTE="JohnnyCageMK"]720 is coming out next year. PS4 won't cause Sony can't afford to launch a new console so thats pretty much the end for them.Heirren

I realistically think that Google will be partnered with Sony for the next console release. I think it would make more sense for google to partner with sony just for the "playstation" brand name, vs releasing a "googlebox10,000".

They already did have a google TV branded blu-ray player which is kind of like a low end netbook you can hook into their television, they made a 2nd generation model, not sure if it's out yet or not. I believe Sony is the main supporter of this type of Google TV device, one other company debuted a similar machine at CES but I don't remember who. Unfortunately I don't think Google TV really took off, at least not as a standalone device. I know it's getting built into some 'smart' TV's though as just one of a number of internet applications, so it wouldn't be surprising to also see it as part of the PS4. I've never checked it out, so I literally have no idea what it does. The only reason the blu-ray player was interesting was because I was thinking about getting it for someone not "tech savvy" to use as a computer replacement and as an all around DVD/blu-ray player. I saw it at $199 and for that price it wasn't half bad at a conceptual level.

2013 or the consoles are dead on arrival. I think Sony and MS realize this so both will come out 2013.

Two reasons why PS3 will suffice for a few more years:-

• It's future-proof due to Blu-ray, powerful processor and nice XMB interface that seems never get outdated. The best interface ever.
• Lots of games! Exclusives just keep coming out.

GamerwillzPS

People itt are forgetting just how long it takes from an official announcement to launch.

It would be suicide to wait until 2014 for a new console. Maybe Sony will announce something at TGS this year. (Do they even go to TGS?)