NG4:Alan Wake cinematics are all separate pre-rendered video files, LINK!!

UC2 doesnt use Pre-Rendered videos, lol. ohhhh boy, i better go back to my more mature forum, this place is just too much.

ZoomZoom2490

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="lawlessx"] that's really the first thing i popped in my head. Alot of games do this.ZoomZoom2490

[QUOTE="OhSnapitz"]

[QUOTE="navyguy21"] I read the link when it was posted 2 times earlier today (yes, you are late) and it referenced to the parts that WERE pre-rendered. On top of that, it said it was IN-ENGINE! No different from the in-engine cutscenes of UC2, MGS4, and a host of other games. However, there WAS some gameplay shown in the vid (check the gif above) where there were jaggies present. Cutscenes dont have jaggies dude. Just let it go, the game will look very close to what was shown. Heck, the E3 presentation should tell you that. Why are you exerting so much energy into trying to prove that it was not gameplay? Does it bother you that much?Bazooka_4ME

Yes because that's what haters do... It is a well known fact that nearly all great looking games "cheat" a little when it comes to the cut-scenes. As the dev rep stated, it cuts back on using precious processing power that could be better spent on the actual game and it shaves down load times. So my advice is let them talk... The Sony defense force will be in full effect when this game comes out stating that it looks terrible.. $ when infact it will rival anything on the PS3.

as said above. UC2 uses them.

if it didn't, you'd have load times, I'm sure....Google it, it's all across PS3 boards saying longer scenes are pre-rendered.

Oh well, at least the in game graphics look amazing as the gifs prove it.

Um ..... So?Anjunaddict

that's what I thought when I read the thread title

now that looks great

lawlessx

Tell me which has better lighting between the two...

[QUOTE="OhSnapitz"]

[QUOTE="navyguy21"] I read the link when it was posted 2 times earlier today (yes, you are late) and it referenced to the parts that WERE pre-rendered. On top of that, it said it was IN-ENGINE! No different from the in-engine cutscenes of UC2, MGS4, and a host of other games. However, there WAS some gameplay shown in the vid (check the gif above) where there were jaggies present. Cutscenes dont have jaggies dude. Just let it go, the game will look very close to what was shown. Heck, the E3 presentation should tell you that. Why are you exerting so much energy into trying to prove that it was not gameplay? Does it bother you that much?Bazooka_4ME

Yes because that's what haters do... It is a well known fact that nearly all great looking games "cheat" a little when it comes to the cut-scenes. As the dev rep stated, it cuts back on using precious processing power that could be better spent on the actual game and it shaves down load times. So my advice is let them talk... The Sony defense force will be in full effect when this game comes out stating that it looks terrible.. $ when infact it will rival anything on the PS3.

Oh well, at least the in game graphics look amazing as the gifs prove it.

mitu123

That's the point! I'm sick of people here who are nitpicking and trying to claim ownage.

-Lack of loading time when you start up the movie
-The better light effects and facial models than what is used in real time
-The smoother animation that is used and motion captured (which the process can be viewed in the unlockables)
-If you change your character skin or costume with an unlockable outfit, it does NOT show up in the cutscene because the cutscenes were prerendered with the original outfits. If the cutscenes were in real time the unlockable outfits would show in the cutscenes.

The one in darker orange explains a lot in this petty argument.....

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="lawlessx"] that's really the first thing i popped in my head. Alot of games do this.ZoomZoom2490

[QUOTE="OhSnapitz"]

[QUOTE="navyguy21"] I read the link when it was posted 2 times earlier today (yes, you are late) and it referenced to the parts that WERE pre-rendered. On top of that, it said it was IN-ENGINE! No different from the in-engine cutscenes of UC2, MGS4, and a host of other games. However, there WAS some gameplay shown in the vid (check the gif above) where there were jaggies present. Cutscenes dont have jaggies dude. Just let it go, the game will look very close to what was shown. Heck, the E3 presentation should tell you that. Why are you exerting so much energy into trying to prove that it was not gameplay? Does it bother you that much?Bazooka_4ME

Yes because that's what haters do... It is a well known fact that nearly all great looking games "cheat" a little when it comes to the cut-scenes. As the dev rep stated, it cuts back on using precious processing power that could be better spent on the actual game and it shaves down load times. So my advice is let them talk... The Sony defense force will be in full effect when this game comes out stating that it looks terrible.. $ when infact it will rival anything on the PS3.

They do, you mad?

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="lawlessx"] that's really the first thing i popped in my head. Alot of games do this.ZoomZoom2490

Uncharted 2 does VERY much use pre-rendered cutscenes. They even have improved shaders and ambient occlussion during the cutscenes.

Much like with Alan Wake, their reasons aren't necessarily for better graphics. It is more about being able to load the next level while the cutscene plays.

let me guess u only have a ps3. am i rite?

[QUOTE="lawlessx"]

now that looks great

Bazooka_4ME

Tell me which has better lighting between the two...

Alan wake. Volumetric lighting FTW. Look at older vids, at gametrailers.

[QUOTE="Bazooka_4ME"][QUOTE="OhSnapitz"]

Yes because that's what haters do... It is a well known fact that nearly all great looking games "cheat" a little when it comes to the cut-scenes. As the dev rep stated, it cuts back on using precious processing power that could be better spent on the actual game and it shaves down load times. So my advice is let them talk... The Sony defense force will be in full effect when this game comes out stating that it looks terrible.. $ when infact it will rival anything on the PS3.

MC3887

They do, you mad?

[QUOTE="ZoomZoom2490"]

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]Agreed, even Uncharted 2 does this.navyguy21

but, I highlighted that in dark orange on the previous page!

now I won't get credit for pointing that out:?

ah well8)

[QUOTE="OhSnapitz"]

[QUOTE="navyguy21"] I read the link when it was posted 2 times earlier today (yes, you are late) and it referenced to the parts that WERE pre-rendered. On top of that, it said it was IN-ENGINE! No different from the in-engine cutscenes of UC2, MGS4, and a host of other games. However, there WAS some gameplay shown in the vid (check the gif above) where there were jaggies present. Cutscenes dont have jaggies dude. Just let it go, the game will look very close to what was shown. Heck, the E3 presentation should tell you that. Why are you exerting so much energy into trying to prove that it was not gameplay? Does it bother you that much?brennan7777

Yes because that's what haters do... It is a well known fact that nearly all great looking games "cheat" a little when it comes to the cut-scenes. As the dev rep stated, it cuts back on using precious processing power that could be better spent on the actual game and it shaves down load times. So my advice is let them talk... The Sony defense force will be in full effect when this game comes out stating that it looks terrible.. $ when infact it will rival anything on the PS3.

this one i don't even care if it's gameplay or not..it's just impressive:

[QUOTE="Bazooka_4ME"]

[QUOTE="lawlessx"]

now that looks great

lawlessx

Tell me which has better lighting between the two...

This is SW. Graphics only matter here. :roll:

[QUOTE="lawlessx"]

[QUOTE="Bazooka_4ME"]

Tell me which has better lighting between the two...

Bazooka_4ME

This is SW. Graphics only matter here. :roll:

unless cows feel like talking about uncompressed sound and lossless audio8)

then sound is everything.

[QUOTE="Anjunaddict"]Um ..... So?ZoomZoom2490

why do you care so much?

[QUOTE="MC3887"]

[QUOTE="Bazooka_4ME"] Except those great looking games on PS3 doesn't "cheat".FIipMode

They do, you mad?

using pre rendered cut scenes, that is what he is implying, like UC2 for example.

[QUOTE="MC3887"]

[QUOTE="Bazooka_4ME"] Except those great looking games on PS3 doesn't "cheat".FIipMode

They do, you mad?

[QUOTE="FIipMode"]

[QUOTE="MC3887"]

They do, you mad?

MC3887

using pre rendered cut scenes, that is what he is implying, like UC2 for example.

Unless I missed some threads where lemmings were hyping a cutscene or something like that, I don't see the point here.

[QUOTE="lawlessx"]

now that looks great

Bazooka_4ME

Tell me which has better lighting between the two...

Overall, Alan Wake's lighting engine is far superior.

Why?

It has the following features that KZ2 does not.

Dynamic Volumetric lighting(all of KZ2's volumetric lighting is static and precalculated)

Day/Night Cycle(essentially means that the sun is a massive light source. It is dynamic. KZ2, the natural lighting is all pre-baked and pre-calculated, not at all dynamic)

SSAO(Alan Wake has SSAO. KZ2 does not. It uses pre-baked AO)

It has dynamic lighting. In general, the lighting engine in Alan Wake is superior to the one in KZ2. It certainly has more features, and isn't really lacking anything significant next to KZ2...

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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]Agreed, even Uncharted 2 does this.navyguy21

Unless I missed some threads where lemmings were hyping a cutscene or something like that, I don't see the point here.

glez13

[QUOTE="FIipMode"]

[QUOTE="MC3887"]

They do, you mad?

MC3887

using pre rendered cut scenes, that is what he is implying, like UC2 for example.

http://www.n4g.com/xbox360/News-505263.aspx

and people were calling me a troll last night when i said this, lol.

ZoomZoom2490

I'm not sure where you're going with this considering we've already seen gameplay video's ? We know the game looks great ?

lol, its still "in-engine" so i dont get what this post is supposed to prove. Cows used the same argument with MGS4, Heavy Rain, and UC2. Same applies here, the final game will look really close to what we saw in the vid. And not ALL of it was pre-rendered, i saw jaggies in the cafe' scene ;)navyguy21

Its still using the "in-game" engine to render those scenes. Its just been recorded before hand so it doesnt make a difference, Its just to cover up load times. I never saw anyone complaining at the fact that FFXIII had actual non ingame prerenderings? Now that its Alan Wake its a big deal?

Oh really? All pre-rendered? You mean like every game since the dawn of time? Except the ones like half-life where they play out in game?

This is no different from a lot of other games.

:?

I'm afraid I couldn't care less.

Um ..... So?Anjunaddict

[QUOTE="Anjunaddict"]Um ..... So?lucky_star

oh boy sony fans hit a new low,every game this generation on consoles do this,hell even your all mighty uncharted 2 and gow3 do it.Tessellation

yeah, it makes me wonder why they make such a big fuss about it

[QUOTE="lucky_star"][QUOTE="Anjunaddict"]Um ..... So?Anjunaddict

it seems it's only okay if ps3 exclusives do it :lol: i should have known

Man those gifs are crazy. I have not been watching the latest videos because I do not want to much more spoiled so I have not seen them. Alan Wake is just amazing looking and I wish it would hurry and come out.

[QUOTE="Anjunaddict"]Um ..... So?lawlessx

[QUOTE="Anjunaddict"][QUOTE="lucky_star"] So... Much for graphics king. Game looks good but i knew that was some kind of Bink video files :DKarateeeChop

it seems it's only okay if ps3 exclusives do it :lol: i should have known

[QUOTE="lawlessx"][QUOTE="Anjunaddict"]Um ..... So?Origami_Kill3r

uncharted 2 not eligible for graphics king either? considering it also uses pre-rendered cutscenes which look better than gameplay, I fail to see how the two games are different.

[QUOTE="Anjunaddict"][QUOTE="lucky_star"] So... Much for graphics king. Game looks good but i knew that was some kind of Bink video files :DKarateeeChop

it seems it's only okay if ps3 exclusives do it :lol: i should have known

[QUOTE="KarateeeChop"]

[QUOTE="Anjunaddict"] Uncharted 2 does the same .... yet I'd regard that as the console graphics king. I fail to see the connectionOrigami_Kill3r

it seems it's only okay if ps3 exclusives do it :lol: i should have known

And Alan Wake is not?

Terrible quality screen captures, but here are a few:

plus you already saw the diner GIF.