Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 Announced for the PS3

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#301 Cybiotik
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[QUOTE="killerfist"][QUOTE="IronBass"]I just wonder what exactly is MS going to do to counter this.HAZE-Unit

Same here. They better have something big.

You know it is becoming obvious with MS and their surprises and quite frankly this is becoming boring, what I really wanna see is Sony for once to make a big surprise instead of MS this E3, I want my jaw to be dropped. Last year MS knocked out Sony with FFXIII, enough knockouts to poor Sony :P

Yeah, I don't think anyone saw that coming...not even Sony. I can't wait until this E3...now with all companies haveing a few years of being out in this gen, and the veterancy of developers with indivudual consoles, it is going to be an amazing console pushing, grpahic pooping E3! Some great titles are going to be announced for all platforms, no doubt.

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#302 lantus
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A bit skeptical for now though seeing as it's only listed in a random Japanese video game magazine. I'll wait for a Sony announcement or something from IGN, Gamespot or Famitsu.

mmirza23

This came from Famitsu. >_> And Tecmo was set to announce a new game on the 24th, which would've been when this issue was supposed to come out, but it's apparently early this week.

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#303 ragrdoll21
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Well the cows should really wait till GDC or offical word on this, If I remember right Japan has something like April Fool's so you should wait before claiming ownage.

Also the people saying they are not buying a 360 because of this, I have a question. Would you really buy a 360 because of Ninja Gaiden 2. I mean the game came outJune of last year, and it is 10 months later.

[QUOTE="Yongying"]I'm guessing the PSN support would be leaderboards or similar, but, but, but, if they added a co-op, and/or a versus mode then i would probably die of a heart attack. :D

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Nope from what that little info box said it is only one player.

if NG2s gets a AAA that will be the biggest ownage ever.kaangonultas

Yeah it will show that the 360 has better stranders than the PS3 :P

The guys who said that are full of crap.

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#304 killerfist
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[QUOTE="killerfist"][QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]the game had melons. Cybiotik

Too much melons imo. But I realize it's useless to discuss this with you, you'll probably disagree.:P

It only had 4 melons! And at least none of them were on vacation!

lol That's one thing I hate about TN this gen. It looks like they gave all the physics power to the melons in their games.
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#305 EmperorSupreme
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Check this article out. Tomonobu Itagaki confirms that Ninja Gaiden II will never appear on the PS3, and if it ever did that would be "a loss of face for everyone involved."

Ouch. He got owned there :?

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He sure did! Itagaki talked so much smack before this game released. He took a jab at PS3 every chance he got.
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#306 TenP
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Whaaaaaaaaaaat? Didn't M$ publish it?!

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#307 HAZE-Unit
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[QUOTE="killerfist"][QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

Same here. They better have something big.killerfist
You know it is becoming obvious with MS and their surprises and quite frankly this is becoming boring, what I really wanna see is Sony for once to make a big surprise instead of MS this E3, I want my jaw to be dropped. Last year MS knocked out Sony with FFXIII, enough knockouts to poor Sony :P

Well, I agree with you. It's great that the PS3 is getting the love. I'd love to see some good competition beteween the 2 though. Taking turns every year is lame.

At least I want Sony to show some good melons in E3
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#308 killerfist
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Whaaaaaaaaaaat? Didn't M$ publish it?!

TenP
This isn't NG2 though. It's NG: Sigma 2 :P I dunno, Tecmo owns NG, not MS. That's what I know.
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#309 DanteSuikoden
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I hate NG, good news for cows who want though:)

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#310 Tekkenloving
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[QUOTE="fend_oblivion"]

Check this article out. Tomonobu Itagaki confirms that Ninja Gaiden II will never appear on the PS3, and if it ever did that would be "a loss of face for everyone involved."

Ouch. He got owned there :?

EmperorSupreme
He sure did! Itagaki talked so much smack before this game released. He took a jab at PS3 every chance he got.

itagaki talk out of he's ass on a regular basis he is nothing more then a media hog.
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#311 killerfist
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[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"] At least I want Sony to show some good melons in E3

I hope they show games:o
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#312 mmirza23
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[QUOTE="lantus"]

[QUOTE="mmirza23"]

A bit skeptical for now though seeing as it's only listed in a random Japanese video game magazine. I'll wait for a Sony announcement or something from IGN, Gamespot or Famitsu.

This came from Famitsu. >_> And Tecmo was set to announce a new game on the 24th, which would've been when this issue was supposed to come out, but it's apparently early this week.

Oh wow ok then, I hope it's a worldwide release!
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#313 johnnyblazed88
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Whaaaaaaaaaaat? Didn't M$ publish it?!

TenP

that can be settled with a fat check to MS

but i don't think adding sigma on the end changes the fact that its the same game with a couple add ons

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#314 TenP
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[QUOTE="TenP"]

Whaaaaaaaaaaat? Didn't M$ publish it?!

killerfist

This isn't NG2 though. It's NG: Sigma 2 :P I dunno, Tecmo owns NG, not MS. That's what I know.

Oh...

but wasn't NG∑ just the same as NG1? I'm confused here. :?

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#315 Animal-Mother
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Now we can see how powerful the PS3 really is because NG2 ran like ass on 360(yes I own and beat the game). If they get it to run buttery smooth like Sigma, I'll buy the game all over again. I hated some of the boss battles but the gameplay is the best around. It's time to see what they(Tecmo) can do with the PS3 again.

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Thats good to know but I have a question I see your sig I own Cod 4 for PS3 did they release a trophy patch?
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#316 HAZE-Unit
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[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"] At least I want Sony to show some good melons in E3 killerfist
I hope they show games:o

:oops: I meant games...GAMES, whats wrong with you today fist :?

I want some melons in their games, is that better now?

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#317 lantus
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[QUOTE="killerfist"][QUOTE="TenP"]

Whaaaaaaaaaaat? Didn't M$ publish it?!

TenP

This isn't NG2 though. It's NG: Sigma 2 :P I dunno, Tecmo owns NG, not MS. That's what I know.

Oh...

but wasn't NG∑ just the same as NG1? I'm confused here. :?

He's suggesting, Microsoft has exclusivity for Ninja Gaiden 2, but if they're to release it on PS3 with a different name IE Sigma 2, then they could potentially work around the exclusivity agreement.
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#318 ZimpanX
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Whaaaaaaaaaaat? Didn't M$ publish it?!

TenP



True but Tecmo still owns the IP, and I think they can release it if they make it different enough.
At first glance it seems to me as they have switched theme which in the original game was blood (ruler of blood, raining blood, the II logo written with blood etc.) here in this game there seems to be kind of blue fireworks comming out from the enemies and the II/2 logo has been changed.

Plus I don't think MS expected Itagaki and a few other key members to quit. :P

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#319 Episode_Eve
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[QUOTE="killerfist"][QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"] At least I want Sony to show some good melons in E3 HAZE-Unit

I hope they show games:o

:oops: I meant games...GAMES, whats wrong with you today fist :?

I want some melons in their games, is that better now?

The best announcement Sony can make this year is a price drop. They have games on lock (which I'm sure they'll announce a few more). As for melons...You can never go wrong with them :P.
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#320 fend_oblivion
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[QUOTE="killerfist"][QUOTE="TenP"]

Whaaaaaaaaaaat? Didn't M$ publish it?!

TenP

This isn't NG2 though. It's NG: Sigma 2 :P I dunno, Tecmo owns NG, not MS. That's what I know.

Oh...

but wasn't NG∑ just the same as NG1? I'm confused here. :?

Same but has a lot of additions and deletions. For example, the Opening FMV is deleted in Sigma. But, the game recieved a major graphical overhaul, has new weapons and enemies, a new playable character with her own boss fights and cutscenes and new level(s) and new boss fights in Ryu's main story.Ryu can also fight on water. But the Karma system is a bit faulty according to NG players like Bigalski. I think so too. Plus, many people cheated their way to the top of the leaderboards I think.

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#321 killerfist
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[QUOTE="killerfist"][QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"] At least I want Sony to show some good melons in E3 HAZE-Unit

I hope they show games:o

:oops: I meant games...GAMES, whats wrong with you today fist :?

I want some melons in their games, is that better now?

Yeah, blame it on me...Champ is the one that talks people into melons, knockers and boobies.

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#322 HuusAsking
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Now we can see how powerful the PS3 really is because NG2 ran like ass on 360(yes I own and beat the game). If they get it to run buttery smooth like Sigma, I'll buy the game all over again. I hated some of the boss battles but the gameplay is the best around. It's time to see what they(Tecmo) can do with the PS3 again.

ragrdoll21
Sigma ran smooth because it was running essentially a last-gen engine (despite the graphical improvements, the physics handling, AI, and everything else under the hood was designed for the original XBox--with its memory and more importantly processor limitations). NG2 is a whole other story.
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#323 WardCleaver02
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[QUOTE="Toriko42"][QUOTE="Timstuff"]

Tecmo and Konami are not the same company.

Also, I'm pretty sure the reason why you'll never see MGS4 on Xbox 360 is because Konami wants to push their POS proprietary online platform with the game, and Microsoft would try to make them use Xbox Live (not saying Metal Gear Online ain't great, but I seriously hate having to go through Konami's service to play it).

Timstuff

I think Konami will keel over Why develop a non-tested title when they can put a small team on porting Metal Gear Solid 4 to the 360 for a guaranteed high amount of sales.

Historically, the MGS franchise has had very little appeal to non-fans, and there are VERY few (if any) MGS fans who do not own a PS3 and MGS4. Konami's only hope to reap a profit with a 360 MGS4 port would be to try and sell it almost entirely to non-fans, which is a losing proposition. They've tried selling MGS to non-fans before, and it didn't end well. MGSTTS had fair performance, but considering it was one for Gamecube's biggest titles that year, it didn't meet expectations in terms of sales. As for MGS2 on Xbox-- it was a complete disaster. It sold so badly that Konami didn't even bother releasing a bargain bin version under the Platinum hits Label, and instead just took it out of print! There's really no getting around it-- MGS has always sold well on the Playstation family of consoles, and this generation has been no exception. HOWEVER, there has yet to be an MGS title on another console brand that has made any real waves. Even the PC port of MGS wasn't that popular, and it was a much nicer package than its Playstation counterpart (it was a port of MGS Integral, which never came out in the US for PSX). Konami just doesn't have much to gain by porting MGS4, because their biggest and most important customer demographic already has it-- the fans.

I would have to agree with your assesment, for the most part. I think Konami/Kojima might have had chance this generation of hardware because not as many people made the jump from PS2 to PS3, as they did from PS1 to PS2. Granted, alot of those who didn't make the jump to the PS3stayed with the PS2, but some went to the 360. I think an exclusive, even timed, would not work on the 360, but a simultaneous launch might have.Havingwritten that, Istill have to agree that it would be a hard sell. And, Konami didn't make any new fans among Xbox owners when theygave thema half-assed port of MGS2.

Kojima has hinted that he might make a game for the 360 that isn't a port of MGS4, but possibly a different game set in the MGS universe. I know that he has had some good things to say about Live, so maybe a MP only game? I have MGS4 and haven't touched the online due to the hoops that you have to go through just to get into a game.

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#324 lusitanogamer
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Good news for me. NG2 is a game i would buy if i owned a 360.
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wasn't NG2 published by MS? if so why should it come to ps3? anyway if it really is comming to ps3 then gears of war is basically the only xbox game left that intrests me...
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#326 Episode_Eve
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[QUOTE="ragrdoll21"]

Now we can see how powerful the PS3 really is because NG2 ran like ass on 360(yes I own and beat the game). If they get it to run buttery smooth like Sigma, I'll buy the game all over again. I hated some of the boss battles but the gameplay is the best around. It's time to see what they(Tecmo) can do with the PS3 again.

HuusAsking
Sigma ran smooth because it was running essentially a last-gen engine (despite the graphical improvements, the physics handling, AI, and everything else under the hood was designed for the original XBox--with its memory and more importantly processor limitations). NG2 is a whole other story.

They did improve the graphics engine and AI in Sigma, but I wouldn't say NG2 was that much of a leap from Sigma. The main reason NG2 didn't run smooth was because it plainly wasn't finished. I doubt the engine is so demanding that the 360 can't handle it.
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#327 SynisterGamer
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Maybe it'll be better then Ninja Gaiden 2, the AI in that game is as broken as my mind while I was playing that game.

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#328 Couth_
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[QUOTE="kweeni"]wasn't NG2 published by MS? if so why should it come to ps3? anyway if it really is comming to ps3 then gears of war is basically the only xbox game left that intrests me...

Technically NGII =/= NGS. They can remake NG2 using the sigma engine, tweak it in a few places and MS can't do anything about it
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#329 tOtalPWNaAe
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i loved Ninja gaiden II,cant wait for this
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#330 HuusAsking
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[QUOTE="Timstuff"][QUOTE="Toriko42"] I think Konami will keel over Why develop a non-tested title when they can put a small team on porting Metal Gear Solid 4 to the 360 for a guaranteed high amount of sales. WardCleaver02

Historically, the MGS franchise has had very little appeal to non-fans, and there are VERY few (if any) MGS fans who do not own a PS3 and MGS4. Konami's only hope to reap a profit with a 360 MGS4 port would be to try and sell it almost entirely to non-fans, which is a losing proposition. They've tried selling MGS to non-fans before, and it didn't end well. MGSTTS had fair performance, but considering it was one for Gamecube's biggest titles that year, it didn't meet expectations in terms of sales. As for MGS2 on Xbox-- it was a complete disaster. It sold so badly that Konami didn't even bother releasing a bargain bin version under the Platinum hits Label, and instead just took it out of print! There's really no getting around it-- MGS has always sold well on the Playstation family of consoles, and this generation has been no exception. HOWEVER, there has yet to be an MGS title on another console brand that has made any real waves. Even the PC port of MGS wasn't that popular, and it was a much nicer package than its Playstation counterpart (it was a port of MGS Integral, which never came out in the US for PSX). Konami just doesn't have much to gain by porting MGS4, because their biggest and most important customer demographic already has it-- the fans.

I would have to agree with your assesment, for the most part. I think Konami/Kojima might have had chance this generation of hardware because not as many people made the jump from PS2 to PS3, as they did from PS1 to PS2. Granted, alot of those who didn't make the jump to the PS3stayed with the PS2, but some went to the 360. I think an exclusive, even timed, would not work on the 360, but a simultaneous launch might have.Havingwritten that, Istill have to agree that it would be a hard sell. And, Konami didn't make any new fans among Xbox owners when theygave thema half-assed port of MGS2.

Kojima has hinted that he might make a game for the 360 that isn't a port of MGS4, but possibly a different game set in the MGS universe. I know that he has had some good things to say about Live, so maybe a MP only game? I have MGS4 and haven't touched the online due to the hoops that you have to go through just to get into a game.

Well, with the MGS storyline pretty much closed, any number of new ones can be opened. Perhaps an MMO...(doubt it, but one can hope).
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[QUOTE="Couth_"][QUOTE="kweeni"]wasn't NG2 published by MS? if so why should it come to ps3? anyway if it really is comming to ps3 then gears of war is basically the only xbox game left that intrests me...

Technically NGII =/= NGS. They can remake NG2 using the sigma engine, tweak it in a few places and MS can't do anything about it

Yes they can. A duck is a duck is a duck. Just because I write my version of Orwell's Nineteen Eighty-Four doesn't necessarily get me off the hook.
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#332 Couth_
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[QUOTE="HuusAsking"][QUOTE="Couth_"][QUOTE="kweeni"]wasn't NG2 published by MS? if so why should it come to ps3? anyway if it really is comming to ps3 then gears of war is basically the only xbox game left that intrests me...

Technically NGII =/= NGS. They can remake NG2 using the sigma engine, tweak it in a few places and MS can't do anything about it

Yes they can. A duck is a duck is a duck. Just because I write my version of Orwell's Nineteen Eighty-Four doesn't necessarily get me off the hook.

Problem is M$ doesen't own The IP, do they?
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In case no one has seen it yet:

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#334 spinecaton
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^Ninjas filled with blue plasma confirmed? :lol:

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#335 f50p90
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Dig this haters

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Nothing but win there, I'm pumped and will buy day 1 :)

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#337 dkhw
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Pretty darn cool for the PS3 owners. Enjoy it. I had my fair share of frustrations with this game, but it's a good game.

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#338 spinecaton
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Dig this haters

f50p90

You know you quoted Wikipedia right? Not to dismiss the NGS2 coming to PS3 but wikipedia? really?

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#339 f50p90
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[QUOTE="f50p90"]

Dig this haters

spinecaton

You know you quoted Wikipedia right? Not to dismiss the NGS2 coming to PS3 but wikipedia? really?

Um, can you read japanese? Because if not than that's the only info on the game you got
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#340 spinecaton
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[QUOTE="spinecaton"]

[QUOTE="f50p90"]

Dig this haters

f50p90

You know you quoted Wikipedia right? Not to dismiss the NGS2 coming to PS3 but wikipedia? really?

Um, can you read japanese? Because if not than that's the only info on the game you got

You mean other then this?

http://kotaku.com/5171282/xbox-360-exclusive-ninja-gaiden-ii-coming-to-ps3?skyline=true&s=x

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#341 HuusAsking
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[QUOTE="HuusAsking"][QUOTE="Couth_"]Technically NGII =/= NGS. They can remake NG2 using the sigma engine, tweak it in a few places and MS can't do anything about itCouth_
Yes they can. A duck is a duck is a duck. Just because I write my version of Orwell's Nineteen Eighty-Four doesn't necessarily get me off the hook.

Problem is M$ doesen't own The IP, do they?

Doesn't matter if the terms of the contract state that Tecmo waives its right to publish the game or anything of its like on its own. What we need is the specifics of the agreement. Did Tecmo wave the right? If so, under what terms?
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#342 II_Seraphim_II
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Pst...fools...wasting your time on NGS2 when you should be getting ready for GoW3 :D
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#343 rmerri52
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Is it Ninja Gaiden 2 or Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2?
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#344 eklineage
Member since 2008 • 2413 Posts

[QUOTE="shutdown_202"]

wow...just wow. Im so glad i didnt buy this last week, instead i bought ICO and Shadow of the collosus.

Ayway with this, lemmings are immensely owned. Not only do they lose an exclusive, but cows are getting more games this year and this version will be the best version. I used to criticise cows by saying NG series is so much better than GoW but now that they have all the best action games, looks like we win!

im still amazed, especially with all the exclusive crap lemmings were spouting last year.

Isnt that funn though? Lemmings hold the NG series as a trademark of the Xbox etc but the best installments are both on a Sony console. Let me guess the arguments "bu bu but we already played it" or "bu bu but cows only want our left overs". hahahahaha the gamers win again the fanboys lose!

McdonaIdsGuy

Do you have a crystal ball? how you know that ps3 version is going to be better? i could turn even worst and more content doesn't = better.

More content doesn't mean better? Lol... from the mag it says that it's gonna be an upgraded version which will probably come with improved visuals/ more weapons.. etc etc. The fact that it has another character (ayane) already makes it better than the original NG2. Quit being a blind fanboy and face the truth. More content doesn't mean better?... lol keep being delusional.

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#345 Couth_
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[QUOTE="Couth_"][QUOTE="HuusAsking"]Yes they can. A duck is a duck is a duck. Just because I write my version of Orwell's Nineteen Eighty-Four doesn't necessarily get me off the hook.HuusAsking
Problem is M$ doesen't own The IP, do they?

Doesn't matter if the terms of the contract state that Tecmo waives its right to publish the game or anything of its like on its own. What we need is the specifics of the agreement. Did Tecmo wave the right? If so, under what terms?

And what makes you think the contract states anything like that at all? What if the contract is null after a certain period of time? Fact is Tecmo owns the NG IP and they can do whatever they want with it. And there are always, always loopholes man...

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#346 lantus
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In case no one has seen it yet:

Episode_Eve

I'm just going to pretend I didn't see the purple/blue sparks flying out of enemies.:x Seriously, though, I hope there's a good explanation as to why there's significantly less blood, in these screens at least. I will give the benefit of the doubt to the sparks, though, I bet it would look pretty cool in motion. :P

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#347 HuusAsking
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[QUOTE="HuusAsking"][QUOTE="Couth_"]Problem is M$ doesen't own The IP, do they?Couth_

Doesn't matter if the terms of the contract state that Tecmo waives its right to publish the game or anything of its like on its own. What we need is the specifics of the agreement. Did Tecmo wave the right? If so, under what terms?

And what makes you think the contract states anything like that at all? What if the contract is null after a certain period of time? Fact is Tecmo owns the NG IP and they can do whatever they want with it. And there are always, always loopholes man...

Microsoft may have dictated terms in exahcnge for money (money talks, after all). Microsoft is pretty smart when it comes to legalities. I'm sure they'd have left Tecmo with few options. Which is why I'm asking, "Which loophole?"

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#348 killerfist
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[QUOTE="Episode_Eve"]

In case no one has seen it yet:

lantus

I'm just going to pretend I didn't see the purple/blue sparks flying out of enemies.:x Seriously, though, I hope there's a good explanation as to why there's significantly less blood, in these screens at least. I will give the benefit of the doubt to the sparks, though, I bet it would look pretty cool in motion. :P

Maybe the content is not rated yet? Dunno.
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#349 lantus
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Is it Ninja Gaiden 2 or Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2?rmerri52
It's basically Ninja Gaiden 2 Directors Cut, except without the director, directing. :P