Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 is a PS3 Exclusive...Wait, what? *56k Warning*

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#1 millwrought
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Yep folks, behold at the PS3 exclusive!

But wait a second...What about:

???? SO CONFUSED!

But anyway it does make sense, Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 does have a ton of features that Ninja Gaiden 2 doesn't have (At least, that's what the developers are saying). And you can really only get that version on the PS3, I guess it's a stretch, but OK!

But let's go back in time and see that:

Ninja Gaiden Sigma didn't even have that fancy little bar claiming it's a PS3 exclusive.

So what say you system warriors? Is Ninja Gaiden 2 a 360 exclusive still, and is Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 a PS3 exclusive? Or is this all publisher craziness, and these are not at all exclusives?

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#2 mythrol
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Wait, are you talking about a game that was released over a year ago and then asking if now that the developer is rehashing it for another console if it was exclusive or not? I don't know about exclusive but darn, if someone really wanted NG2 would they honestly STILL be waiting to get it or would they have bought it as soon as it was released? If for SW forums you don't want to count either game as an exclusive, fine. In real life however, NG2 did everything an exclusive was suppose to do. What happens now since we've all moved on from it, well doesn't really matter.
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#3 SolidTy
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Oh my goodness, this is too crazy. If you ask me, it's not exclusive, but then again, I haven't played it yet.:P

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#4 Solid_Max13
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Sort of makes sense there a bit different aren't they?
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#5 millwrought
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Oh my goodness, this is too crazy. If you ask me, it's not exclusive, but then again, I haven't played it yet.:P

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You're not missing anything :D IMO Ninja Gaiden 2 was garbage...But that's just me :P

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#6 WAIW
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Chances are Sigma 2 will score AA and they'll negate each other.

But if it goes above and beyond to manage AAA, I wouldn't consider it an exclusive. Kind of like MLB 09; merely a superior version of a game found on other platforms.

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#7 mitu123
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Ninja Gaiden 2 is 360 exclusive, Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 is PS3 exclusive, that settles it.

And I'm getting both.:P

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#8 cainetao11
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Not exclusive. I'm still playing the same main story with the same main character. Add the women, add a weapon or two and some extra levels. It's still primarily a battle with Dagra Dai, 4 Greater Fiends, and the Arch Fiend. Only, you can keep this PG-13, Purple essnce version. I like my sword work bloody and brutal.
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#9 millwrought
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Not exclusive. I'm still playing the same main story with the same main character. Add the women, add a weapon or two and some extra levels. It's still primarily a battle with Dagra Dai, 4 Greater Fiends, and the Arch Fiend. Only, you can keep this PG-13, Purple essnce version. I like my sword work bloody and brutal.cainetao11

Not really trying to push it, but I think there's also co-op in Sigma 2.

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#10 Nero_Paladin
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Oh my goodness, this is too crazy. If you ask me, it's not exclusive, but then again, I haven't played it yet.:P

SolidTy

Well technically these features are exclusive: 3 extra playable characters, extra game modes, enemies/bosses, weapons and better camera.
That's about it i think, but the main game is definitely not exclusive.

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#11 Dragonblade01
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Yes, Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 is exclusive. Just like how Ninja Gaiden 2 is exclusive. You could jump through all kinds of semantics and technicality hoops to try and say that it's not, but those two games are only available on their respective consoles.

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#12 danish-death
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If it's exclusive, wouldn't that make MLB the show 09 exclusive too?
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#13 Filthybastrd
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Well, they're not lying, you can only get NGS2 for the ps3.

It's still not exclusive though.

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#14 Dragonblade01
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If it's exclusive, wouldn't that make MLB the show 09 exclusive too?danish-death

To Sony, I suppose; but if you are talking about platforms in general, then no it's not.

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#15 millwrought
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Yes, Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 is exclusive. Just like how Ninja Gaiden 2 is exclusive. You could jump through all kinds of semantics and technicality hoops to try and say that it's not, but those two games are only available on their respective consoles.

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Yes but Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 has everything that Ninja Gaiden 2 has, but supposedly better and more.

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#16 hoplayletsplay
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I don't consider Ninja Gaiden for the 360 as exclusive, however, the same thing applies to Sigma. It's essentially a copy of Ninja Gaiden with exclusive contents. So although it has exclusive contents, that doesn't make it a different game from the original one. Take GTA4 as example, the 360 one has exclusive contents but the game itself isn't exclusive. Fair enough?
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#18 Mystery_Writer
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though i have it on X360.. but i might pick this one up if they offered enough incentives for owners of NG2.
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#19 Dragonblade01
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[QUOTE="Dragonblade01"]

Yes, Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 is exclusive. Just like how Ninja Gaiden 2 is exclusive. You could jump through all kinds of semantics and technicality hoops to try and say that it's not, but those two games are only available on their respective consoles.

millwrought

Yes but Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 has everything that Ninja Gaiden 2 has, but supposedly better and more.

It's still a separate version.

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#20 Next-Gen-Tec
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Why does it matter? If it's exclusive so it NG2 on 360. If it's multiplat so is NG2 on 360. Nothing changes.
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#21 cainetao11
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I don't consider Ninja Gaiden for the 360 as exclusive, however, the same thing applies to Sigma. It's essentially a copy of Ninja Gaiden with exclusive contents. So although it has exclusive contents, that doesn't make it a different game from the original one. Take GTA4 as example, the 360 one has exclusive contents but the game itself isn't exclusive. Fair enough?hoplayletsplay
Same here. The story and battles are primarily the same, with added extras, and coats of paint added some removed. If this is exclusive then GTA 4 with the DLC added becomes an exclusive.
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#22 millwrought
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I don't consider Ninja Gaiden for the 360 as exclusive, however, the same thing applies to Sigma. It's essentially a copy of Ninja Gaiden with exclusive contents. So although it has exclusive contents, that doesn't make it a different game from the original one. Take GTA4 as example, the 360 one has exclusive contents but the game itself isn't exclusive. Fair enough?hoplayletsplay

Bad example IMO, GTA4 exclusive stuff is all DLC ADD-ONS. Not stuff that comes out of the box, therefore isn't available to everyone. Same with Bioshock, the PS3 version got some add-on stuff just I believe it was all DLC.

To date it sounds like all of the new stuff for Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 is in the box, ready to go.

I understand your point though.

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#23 cainetao11
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[QUOTE="hoplayletsplay"]I don't consider Ninja Gaiden for the 360 as exclusive, however, the same thing applies to Sigma. It's essentially a copy of Ninja Gaiden with exclusive contents. So although it has exclusive contents, that doesn't make it a different game from the original one. Take GTA4 as example, the 360 one has exclusive contents but the game itself isn't exclusive. Fair enough?millwrought

Bad example IMO, GTA4 exclusive stuff is all DLC ADD-ONS. Not stuff that comes out of the box, therefore isn't available to everyone. Same with Bioshock, the PS3 version got some add-on stuff just I believe it was all DLC.

To date it sounds like all of the new stuff for Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 is in the box, ready to go.

I understand your point though.

No the GTA 4 DLC is being released on a disc for 360.
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#24 hoplayletsplay
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You got a point. If I have to pay separately for the extra contents in GTA4, I don't think it should be consider as extra for the game. Anyway, I justify a game being exclusive or not by the experience I gain from playing the game. If the experience with playing Sigma is vastly different than the one on 360, it should be classified as exclusive, otherwise, It shouldn't be.
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#25 millwrought
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[QUOTE="millwrought"]

[QUOTE="hoplayletsplay"]I don't consider Ninja Gaiden for the 360 as exclusive, however, the same thing applies to Sigma. It's essentially a copy of Ninja Gaiden with exclusive contents. So although it has exclusive contents, that doesn't make it a different game from the original one. Take GTA4 as example, the 360 one has exclusive contents but the game itself isn't exclusive. Fair enough?cainetao11

Bad example IMO, GTA4 exclusive stuff is all DLC ADD-ONS. Not stuff that comes out of the box, therefore isn't available to everyone. Same with Bioshock, the PS3 version got some add-on stuff just I believe it was all DLC.

To date it sounds like all of the new stuff for Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 is in the box, ready to go.

I understand your point though.

No the GTA 4 DLC is being released on a disc for 360.

That's still seperate from the main game itself.

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#26 kozzy1234
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Sigma 2 also has HORRIBLE looking blood :lol:

Why on earth wouyld you tone down NG?:lol:

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#27 millwrought
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You got a point. If I have to pay separately for the extra contents in GTA4, I don't think it should be consider as extra for the game. Anyway, I justify a game being exclusive or not by the experience I gain from playing the game. If the experience with playing Sigma is vastly different than the one on 360, it should be classified as exclusive, otherwise, It shouldn't be.hoplayletsplay

I agree.

Yet the developers have been saying that there's going to be new bosses, levels, 3 characters, and co-op. Also better controls.

Co-Op adds another side to things, and if the controls are indeed better and if the enemy AI is balanced it would be a vastly different experience compared to the first Ninja Gaiden 2...At least that's what the developers say. Is that enough new content to justify it as a exclusive in terms of raw improvements/ add-on content?

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#28 millwrought
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Sigma 2 also has HORRIBLE looking blood :lol:

Why on earth wouyld you tone down NG?:lol:

kozzy1234

I wonder...are they trying to go for a 'T' rated game?

I would make more sense, get those depressed 15 year olds, add in some Linkin Park as the theme song for Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2, and you got a hit!

If they aren't going to get a 'T' rated game, and still a 'M' game, then I don't see the point.

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[QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

Sigma 2 also has HORRIBLE looking blood :lol:

Why on earth wouyld you tone down NG?:lol:

millwrought

I wonder...are they trying to go for a 'T' rated game?

I would make more sense, get those depressed 15 year olds, add in some Linkin Park as the theme song for Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2, and you got a hit!

If they aren't going to get a 'T' rated game, and still a 'M' game, then I don't see the point.

Its nto a "T" rated version, from the screenshots it looks like a PG or G/E version :lol:

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#30 rogerjak
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Screw NGS2! NGS was a freaking pain in the bun bun

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#31 aaronmullan
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Why does it matter? If it's exclusive so it NG2 on 360. If it's multiplat so is NG2 on 360. Nothing changes.Next-Gen-Tec
I agree. No point in arguing over this.
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#32 deactivated-5f4694ac412a8
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I am on chapter 12 in Ninja Gaiden Sigma, and I have absolutely no desire to finish it. Disappointingly easy, and the only thing that stands out in it is the combat. I think I'll pass on this outing and just wait for God of War III, the true champion of hack 'n' slash.
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#33 tonitorsi
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Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 s getting Co-op, more weapons, mre fun, and new playable characters. Is just bigger and better.

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#34 Ninja-Hippo
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I think it's really not cool for them to not release this on the 360. After all, they released a similar game in the form of Ninja Gaiden Black on the original xbox. After the annoying little issues on Ninja Gaiden 2 originally, the least they could do is release the better version for xbox owners.
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#35 Ninja-Hippo
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I am on chapter 12 in Ninja Gaiden Sigma, and I have absolutely no desire to finish it. Disappointingly easy, and the only thing that stands out in it is the combat. I think I'll pass on this outing and just wait for God of War III, the true champion of hack 'n' slash.DeathScape666
Did you play the original on the xbox though? That was the main problem with Sigma, they watered down the difficulty horribly.
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#36 ActicEdge
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Multiplat, its the same game plus extra content. Not that it matters.

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#37 foxhound_fox
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Seems more like an exclusive expansion pack to me (in a sense). The fundamental gameplay structure is not changed in any significant way. It is merely being added to. Like how Shivering Isles added to Oblivion. Or Brood War added to StarCraft. Or Lord of Destruction added to Diablo II.

Its basically the same game with more stuff. I don't see how that makes it "exclusive." Its like the difference between Dead Rising and Chop Till You Drop.

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#38 OPuniverse
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whatever it is, u guys will be enjoying it for (pull ur hair string also). This game is brutal just like GoW.
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#39 Jono789
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

Ninja Gaiden 2 is 360 exclusive, Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 is PS3 exclusive, that settles it.

And I'm getting both.:P

Perfect, he wins the thread.
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#40 Filthybastrd
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Sigma 2 also has HORRIBLE looking blood :lol:

Why on earth wouyld you tone down NG?:lol:

kozzy1234

Judging from an EDGE interview with the dev's it's because of censorship.

They did ofc do some pr tricks but something about strict censorship laws gave it away.

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#41 Rob-Belmont
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Same game, with a few new features and the word 'Sigma' slapped onto the end of it. I think I'm going to sell my copy of NG2, I bought it literally days before the NGS2 announcement, and when they started revealing all of the improvements, I just looked at my inferior Xbox version and let out a big sigh. Plus I first played NG on the PS3 with sigma and using the Xbox controller just feels weird.

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#42 enygma500
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I think everyone missed the point the TC was trying to bring up. On Each versions cover it says "Only on playstation" and "Only on xbox 360".

So the devs are saying each game is exclusive and what are your thoughts on it.

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Why does it matter? If it's exclusive so it NG2 on 360. If it's multiplat so is NG2 on 360. Nothing changes.Next-Gen-Tec
unless the one on ps3 scores lower then the one on the 360..
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#44 mitu123
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I think everyone missed the point the TC was trying to bring up. On Each versions cover it says "Only on playstation" and "Only on xbox 360".

So the devs are saying each game is exclusive and what are your thoughts on it.

enygma500
I already know that, read my 1st post.
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#45 TheGreatOutdoor
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If a game does not carry the same name, it is exclusive to me. So yea Ninja Gaiden 2 Sigma is a PS3 exclusive. You can't buy Ninja Gaiden 2 Sigma for any other system, so yea.

EDIT: I guess I should add the Ninja Gaiden 2 is still a 360 exclusive to me.

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#46 DonPerian
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Who cares? I'd say that each title is exclusive to their respective platform. The franchise itself is no longer an exclusive one.
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Companies like to lie.

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#48 SilverChimera
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why can't it be exclusive? both consoles get another game to their exclusive list. is it because NGS was AAA and NG2 wasn't? is that why? and NGS2 should be counted as exclusive. they're adding a ton of things to it like multiplayer and other things.

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#49 SilverChimera
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If a game does not carry the same name, it is not exclusive to me. So yea Ninja Gaiden 2 Sigma is a PS3 exclusive. You can't buy Ninja Gaiden 2 Sigma for any other system, so yea.

EDIT: I guess I should add the Ninja Gaiden 2 is still a 360 exclusive to me.

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this is what i think should happen. both systems keep exclusives.
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#50 Flam3Thr0w3r
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Sony only started using those "Only On PlayStation" bars recently, which is why the bar is not on the first game.