Ninja Gaiden vs. God of war

[QUOTE="mentzer"]

Show you haven't played GoW. If you think it's easy to launch an enemy, hit them twice with the square button, throw 2 Zeus' bolts and then freeze them with Medusa's head so they crumble when they hit the ground is easy, you are sadly mistaken. Thus making the rest of your post irrevelant.

Get a clue kiddo.

fuzzysquash

I haven't played GoW? :lol:

http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/action/godofwar/player_review.html?id=324757

http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/action/godofwar2/player_review.html?id=471836

Your little combo there sounds fancy, but totally unecessary. Most of the time all you have to do is hold one button and press another (circle, square, or triangle) to unleash a long combo without breaking a sweat. Even casuals can pull off cool moves with God of War--that's it's widespread appeal.

On the other hand, you must learn complex button combos to survive in Ninja Gaiden. NG is designed more like a fighting game, while God of War is doubtlessly a button masher. Yeah, you can toss a guy up, hit em twice with square, throw some bolts at him, then freeze him with Medusa, but these are more stunts for show and are not representative of the game design as a whole. Jaffe even said that it was his intention not to make a game that casuals can pick up and play. And that means its combat system is very different from a hardcore game like NG.

That statement right there shows you are totally clueless. I could say the same thing about NG's moveset. Fancy, but unecessary. I could just use the Izuna drop throughout the whole game and finish NG without touching any other weapon or trying to do the more complicated combos. And with the bosses I could just use the Dragon Sword and use the Flying Swallow consistently to defeat almost all the bosses. Please don't tell me that you can't, because I have done it. I've owned and finished every version of NG.

And no, you don't hold down one button in GoW to create long combos. Anybody that has played the first GoW can tell you combo's are created using the square, triangle, circle, and R1 buttons. That doesn't count the singular moves that you can execute while blocking and the magic.

Don't care what your links show. You haven't played GoW.

Gameplay-Ninja Gaiden

Everything else- God of War.

But hey, if Ninja Gaiden had a story it wouldn't be fair. That would be like if Shaq could make free throws, how could you stop him?

urgh... Ninja Gaiden OBLITERATES GoWMigElite

EXODIA OBLITERATE!!!!! :O (sorry that just popped into my head :P)

NG is a hardcore action adventure game . GeoW is more of a casual friendly beat em up .

Both are fun , but NG is more in my taste , I like to think before acting .

I love Ninja Gaiden, the combat is extremely fun and unmatched in my opinion. If anything, I just wish there was more platforming, since Ryu controls so smoothly. If it had the platforming of a Prince of Persia game with the combat system that it has, it would instantly become one of my all time favorites

As for God of War, it's good, but the combat gets way too repetitive. It feels like you do the same moves to the same enemy designs over and over again throughout the entire game. It started out as a great game, but by the end I was tired of it. I can always come back to NG and have fun, the same can't be said for GoW

[QUOTE="fuzzysquash"][QUOTE="mentzer"]

Show you haven't played GoW. If you think it's easy to launch an enemy, hit them twice with the square button, throw 2 Zeus' bolts and then freeze them with Medusa's head so they crumble when they hit the ground is easy, you are sadly mistaken. Thus making the rest of your post irrevelant.

Get a clue kiddo.

mentzer

I haven't played GoW? :lol:

http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/action/godofwar/player_review.html?id=324757

http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/action/godofwar2/player_review.html?id=471836

Your little combo there sounds fancy, but totally unecessary. Most of the time all you have to do is hold one button and press another (circle, square, or triangle) to unleash a long combo without breaking a sweat. Even casuals can pull off cool moves with God of War--that's it's widespread appeal.

On the other hand, you must learn complex button combos to survive in Ninja Gaiden. NG is designed more like a fighting game, while God of War is doubtlessly a button masher. Yeah, you can toss a guy up, hit em twice with square, throw some bolts at him, then freeze him with Medusa, but these are more stunts for show and are not representative of the game design as a whole. Jaffe even said that it was his intention not to make a game that casuals can pick up and play. And that means its combat system is very different from a hardcore game like NG.

That statement right there shows you are totally clueless. I could say the same thing about NG's moveset. Fancy, but unecessary. I could just use the Izuna drop throughout the whole game and finish NG without touching any other weapon or trying to do the more complicated combos. And with the bosses I could just use the Dragon Sword and use the Flying Swallow consistently to defeat almost all the bosses. Please don't tell me that you can't, because I have done it. I've owned and finished every version of NG.

And no, you don't hold down one button in GoW to create long combos. Anybody that has played the first GoW can tell you combo's are created using the square, triangle, circle, and R1 buttons. That doesn't count the singular moves that you can execute while blocking and the magic.

Don't care what your links show. You haven't played GoW.

I'd love to see you use the Izuna drop through the whole game. Especially against the enemies you can't even pick up :roll:

As for my combo's comment, I was obviously referring to God of War II. You know full well what I was talking about.

If you don't want to read my reviews of GoW and GoW II, and continue believing that I've never played those games, that's fine with me. I just find it humorous that a fellow forumite is so stubborn in his belief that another forumer has never played a particular game that he will shut his eyes and plug his ears at any sign of evidence to the contrary :wink:

I finished both games and loved them. They're some of the best on PS2. But if you're trying to argue that GoW's gameplay system is as deep as NG, you're not going to convince anyone.

Why dont people understand that Ninja Gaiden is totally different than GOW or HS...

NG relies strictly on gameplay, which while this isnt a bad thing because the action is extremeley well polished and fun, there is no story, or anything that would make me want to finish the SP mode...

GOW and HS are more my type of games, they FEEL, and have compelling charachters with an itneresting plot which makes the gameplay more fun

they are very different experiances

R-Dot-Yung

Ninja Gaiden Original = 9.4

Ninja Gaiden Black = 9.4

God Of War 1 = 9.3

God of War 2 = 9.2

As I expected gameplay wins and Ninja Gaiden has it.. God of War was fun to play don't get me wrong.. But it required nowhere near the skill of Ninja Gaiden. I broke 2 controllers playing Ninja Gaiden till I mastered the move set. That game is just insane and between Halo2 and Ninja Gaiden black those games by far were the best games on the original Xbox.

Ninja Gaiden 2.. New story hopefully:D And all new features and environments and weapons.. Give me those damn claws those things are wicked !!!

[QUOTE="mentzer"][QUOTE="fuzzysquash"][QUOTE="mentzer"]

Show you haven't played GoW. If you think it's easy to launch an enemy, hit them twice with the square button, throw 2 Zeus' bolts and then freeze them with Medusa's head so they crumble when they hit the ground is easy, you are sadly mistaken. Thus making the rest of your post irrevelant.

Get a clue kiddo.

fuzzysquash

I haven't played GoW? :lol:

http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/action/godofwar/player_review.html?id=324757

http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/action/godofwar2/player_review.html?id=471836

Your little combo there sounds fancy, but totally unecessary. Most of the time all you have to do is hold one button and press another (circle, square, or triangle) to unleash a long combo without breaking a sweat. Even casuals can pull off cool moves with God of War--that's it's widespread appeal.

On the other hand, you must learn complex button combos to survive in Ninja Gaiden. NG is designed more like a fighting game, while God of War is doubtlessly a button masher. Yeah, you can toss a guy up, hit em twice with square, throw some bolts at him, then freeze him with Medusa, but these are more stunts for show and are not representative of the game design as a whole. Jaffe even said that it was his intention not to make a game that casuals can pick up and play. And that means its combat system is very different from a hardcore game like NG.

That statement right there shows you are totally clueless. I could say the same thing about NG's moveset. Fancy, but unecessary. I could just use the Izuna drop throughout the whole game and finish NG without touching any other weapon or trying to do the more complicated combos. And with the bosses I could just use the Dragon Sword and use the Flying Swallow consistently to defeat almost all the bosses. Please don't tell me that you can't, because I have done it. I've owned and finished every version of NG.

And no, you don't hold down one button in GoW to create long combos. Anybody that has played the first GoW can tell you combo's are created using the square, triangle, circle, and R1 buttons. That doesn't count the singular moves that you can execute while blocking and the magic.

Don't care what your links show. You haven't played GoW.

I'd love to see you use the Izuna drop through the whole game. Especially against the enemies you can't even pick up :roll:

As for my combo's comment, I was obviously referring to God of War II. You know full well what I was talking about.

If you don't want to read my reviews of GoW and GoW II, and continue believing that I've never played those games, that's fine with me. I just find it humorous that a fellow forumite is so stubborn in his belief that another forumer has never played a particular game that he will shut his eyes and plug his ears at any sign of evidence to the contrary :wink:

I finished both games and loved them. They're some of the best on PS2. But if you're trying to argue that GoW's gameplay system is as deep as NG, you're not going to convince anyone.

Obviously I'm not talking about the enemies you can't pick up. The flying swallow will be used against those enemies. And you know you can go thru the whole game using those moves exclusively. That goes back to my point that your comment about "fancy and uneccesary moves" is very stupid. Those moves are there to allow us gamers to play the game the way we want to play it. Why you would post that comment knowing that it's the same case for NG is beyond me.

And I'm talking about GoW 1. Where did I post about GoW 2??

You can say you played GoW all you want. But your comments about GoW 1 combat system show you either didn't play the game or you didn't explore the combat system.

Either way it's not going to change the fact that GoW combat system is much deeper than you give it credit for.

God of War >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NG

NG is one of the most overrated games in existence. How a game with a horrible story, no check points, weak presentation, god awful camera, no mid battle weapon or ninpo switching, and unbelievable cheapness at the end of it is viewed so highly is just beyond me. God of War is a blast to play from beginning to end while NG is on the cheap side of things and is rather more annoying than fun.

I find it funny when NG fans say that it's "teh challenge" but do you realize why it's challenging? The game isn't hard because the actual game objectives, it's hard because it's a CHEAP game. I mean ask yourself how hard NG would be if it had checkpoints. The devs just want to make the game annoying and fools will call it hard. ANY game would be hard if it didn't have checkpoints. People praise NG's gameplay like it's kind. GTFOH. The gameplay is amazing... til you realize that you have to STOP playing to do EVERYTHING. You can't just go to a new place in NG without sayin' this to yourself..."Let me find a save point before I enter this room because if I die I'll have to do the whole F@#@$N' mission again" or how about when you are in the middle of a battle and you have to stop fighting to switch weapons or ninpo? How is that flawless gameplay? It's not people. Get your heads out of your asses and think about this. Since when did hard = better? Imagine God of War on Titan or God mode with no checkpoints. NG isn't harder it's just cheaper.

Obviously I'm not talking about the enemies you can't pick up. The flying swallow will be used against those enemies. And you know you can go thru the whole game using those moves exclusively. That goes back to my point that your comment about "fancy and uneccesary moves" is very stupid. Those moves are there to allow us gamers to play the game the way we want to play it. Why you would post that comment knowing that it's the same case for NG is beyond me.

And I'm talking about GoW 1. Where did I post about GoW 2??

You can say you played GoW all you want. But your comments about GoW 1 combat system show you either didn't play the game or you didn't explore the combat system.

Either way it's not going to change the fact that GoW combat system is much deeper than you give it credit for.

mentzer

I admit that I didn't try that particular fancy juggling maneuver you mentioned earlier, but there's a good reason for that: it's not necessary to complete the game, nor is it either necessary or desirable for harder modes.

You could in principle complete NG with just the flying swallow and the izuna drop, but it'd take a hell of a lot of flying swallows to take down some of those enemies. The game is clearly designed for the player to take advantage of an assortment of complex moves, whereas the more complex moves in God of War are meant more for show.

Bottom line: NG is designed like a fighting game, God of War is not. If the game's own designers can admit that, perhaps you should too.

God of War definitely. I like NG but I think it gets way too much credit.tegovoltio

Fixed;)

NG- Better gameplay I play actions games for gameplay, could care less about the story.-Sora

I'm with this guy

Ninja Gaiden has stronger gameplay. The enemies are difficult enough to keep pushing you to your limit and take advantage of the combo system. It's a skill-testing game, and it's very rewarding when you do it.

God of War has a very flashy combat system, but without the difficulty that Ninja Gaiden has, it's much more of a roller-coaster blockbuster experience, with fantastic story and presentation. They offer different things, and they each accomplish their task superbly. You can do cool things in God of War, but you really don't need to (except in the Challenge of the __ modes, which are tough).

NG- Better gameplay I play actions games for gameplay, could care less about the story.-Sora

What good is the action if there is no purpose? What good is the combat when there is no reason for it? I want to feel like I want to fight....not just have to fight.

God of War >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NG

NG is one of the most overrated games in existence. How a game with a horrible story, no check points, weak presentation, god awful camera, no mid battle weapon or ninpo switching, and unbelievable cheapness at the end of it is viewed so highly is just beyond me. God of War is a blast to play from beginning to end while NG is on the cheap side of things and is rather more annoying than fun.

I find it funny when NG fans say that it's "teh challenge" but do you realize why it's challenging? The game isn't hard because the actual game objectives, it's hard because it's a CHEAP game. I mean ask yourself how hard NG would be if it had checkpoints. The devs just want to make the game annoying and fools will call it hard. ANY game would be hard if it didn't have checkpoints. People praise NG's gameplay like it's kind. GTFOH. The gameplay is amazing... til you realize that you have to STOP playing to do EVERYTHING. You can't just go to a new place in NG without sayin' this to yourself..."Let me find a save point before I enter this room because if I die I'll have to do the whole F@#@$N' mission again" or how about when you are in the middle of a battle and you have to stop fighting to switch weapons or ninpo? How is that flawless gameplay? It's not people. Get your heads out of your asses and think about this. Since when did hard = better? Imagine God of War on Titan or God mode with no checkpoints. NG isn't harder it's just cheaper.

GoldenGlove

Sounds like someone else who just couldn't quite hack it. ;)

The save point system isn't a nightmare. I agree the save points were spread a little too far sometimes, but it didn't hinder the gameplay nearly as much as you make it seem. Unless, quite honestly, you just died a lot. The point is that it's a highly rewarding level of difficulty. Enemies that are tough in the beginning become strikingly easy once you become accustomed to the gameplay and get some of the moves down pat. It isn't a cheap game. It can't be, when you literally see yourself visibly improving the more you play it. It rewards skill, practice, and patience.

I can't disagree too much with having to pause to switch weapons/ninpo/etc, because I think the on-the-fly switching of that stuff with the d-pad is the best new feature in NG2, but it still isn't that bad. You have more than enough moves at your disposal with whatever weapon you happening to be equipping, even if it's low level. You have that, plus a ninpo, plus a projectile, that's enough for a battle. Very easy to simply switch stuff afterwards if you want, if you don't want to interrupt battle (which is understandable).

Ninja Gaiden Original = 9.4

Ninja Gaiden Black = 9.4

God Of War 1 = 9.3

God of War 2 = 9.2

As I expected gameplay wins and Ninja Gaiden has it.. God of War was fun to play don't get me wrong.. But it required nowhere near the skill of Ninja Gaiden. I broke 2 controllers playing Ninja Gaiden till I mastered the move set. That game is just insane and between Halo2 and Ninja Gaiden black those games by far were the best games on the original Xbox.

Ninja Gaiden 2.. New story hopefully:D And all new features and environments and weapons.. Give me those damn claws those things are wicked !!!

NitaraPwnzU

Ninja Gaiden Black is the same damn game, just easier compared to the original.

[QUOTE="-Sora"]NG- Better gameplay I play actions games for gameplay, could care less about the story.sainraja

What good is the action if there is no purpose? What good is the combat when there is no reason for it? I want to feel like I want to fight....not just have to fight.

Story is a place where they have a lot of room for improvement. I hope they make that aspect of Ninja Gaiden better in the sequel.

[QUOTE="NitaraPwnzU"]

Ninja Gaiden Original = 9.4

Ninja Gaiden Black = 9.4

God Of War 1 = 9.3

God of War 2 = 9.2

As I expected gameplay wins and Ninja Gaiden has it.. God of War was fun to play don't get me wrong.. But it required nowhere near the skill of Ninja Gaiden. I broke 2 controllers playing Ninja Gaiden till I mastered the move set. That game is just insane and between Halo2 and Ninja Gaiden black those games by far were the best games on the original Xbox.

Ninja Gaiden 2.. New story hopefully:D And all new features and environments and weapons.. Give me those damn claws those things are wicked !!!

sainraja

Ninja Gaiden Black is the same damn game, just easier compared to the original.

Ninja Gaiden Black also has a ton of extra content in the form of the missions, which add a lot to the game. They also remixed all the difficulty modes, as well as adding extra difficulty modes on the lowest (Ninja Dog) and highest (Master Ninja) ends.

Why dont people understand that Ninja Gaiden is totally different than GOW or HS...

NG relies strictly on gameplay, which while this isnt a bad thing because the action is extremeley well polished and fun, there is no story, or anything that would make me want to finish the SP mode...

GOW and HS are more my type of games, they FEEL, and have compelling charachters with an itneresting plot which makes the gameplay more fun

they are very different experiances

R-Dot-Yung

same here.

I can't say which is better because I never played Ninja Gaiden. I have played GOW though. I honestly think it's one of the most badass action games ever made. Kratos is truly one of the most badass characters ever in a videogame. The reason why enemies are so weak and the difficulty is easy is because the devs want you to feel that you are Kratos. Kratos is supposed to be this pi$$ed off character seeking vengeance and mutilating everything that stands in his way and nothing will or can stop him. I honestlythink the combat system is just fine. I just love the executions, gruesome violence,and epic storyline in this game. This is one of the those games that when I get home from work and someone pi$$es me off that day, I'll just come home and play this game. Nothing like ripping Medusa's head off, slamming Theseus' head between a giant door, ramming Perseus' body through a giant wall and watching him land on a giant meat hook always cheers me up when I'm in a bad mood.;) But like I said, I never played NG.:PD_Mainge

That's exactly what I like about God of War also. It just makes you feel like a total badass who destroys everything in his way in the most brutal manner possible.

Ninja Gaiden is very different. It doesn't make you feel as much like a badass, but it makes you feel really skilled.

[QUOTE="D_Mainge"]I can't say which is better because I never played Ninja Gaiden. I have played GOW though. I honestly think it's one of the most badass action games ever made. Kratos is truly one of the most badass characters ever in a videogame. The reason why enemies are so weak and the difficulty is easy is because the devs want you to feel that you are Kratos. Kratos is supposed to be this pi$$ed off character seeking vengeance and mutilating everything that stands in his way and nothing will or can stop him. I honestlythink the combat system is just fine. I just love the executions, gruesome violence,and epic storyline in this game. This is one of the those games that when I get home from work and someone pi$$es me off that day, I'll just come home and play this game. Nothing like ripping Medusa's head off, slamming Theseus' head between a giant door, ramming Perseus' body through a giant wall and watching him land on a giant meat hook always cheers me up when I'm in a bad mood.;) But like I said, I never played NG.:Psonicmj1

That's exactly what I like about God of War also. It just makes you feel like a total badass who destroys everything in his way in the most brutal manner possible.

Ninja Gaiden is very different. It doesn't make you feel as much like a badass, but it makes you feel really skilled.

not to say that, comparing the two main characters, what chances Ryu has against someone that has already killed a God?

[QUOTE="sonicmj1"]

[QUOTE="D_Mainge"]I can't say which is better because I never played Ninja Gaiden. I have played GOW though. I honestly think it's one of the most badass action games ever made. Kratos is truly one of the most badass characters ever in a videogame. The reason why enemies are so weak and the difficulty is easy is because the devs want you to feel that you are Kratos. Kratos is supposed to be this pi$$ed off character seeking vengeance and mutilating everything that stands in his way and nothing will or can stop him. I honestlythink the combat system is just fine. I just love the executions, gruesome violence,and epic storyline in this game. This is one of the those games that when I get home from work and someone pi$$es me off that day, I'll just come home and play this game. Nothing like ripping Medusa's head off, slamming Theseus' head between a giant door, ramming Perseus' body through a giant wall and watching him land on a giant meat hook always cheers me up when I'm in a bad mood.;) But like I said, I never played NG.:PSambaLele

That's exactly what I like about God of War also. It just makes you feel like a total badass who destroys everything in his way in the most brutal manner possible.

Ninja Gaiden is very different. It doesn't make you feel as much like a badass, but it makes you feel really skilled.

not to say that, comparing the two main characters, what chances Ryu has against someone that has already killed a God?

Ryu killed the Devil.

Considering the odds he goes up against, and the foes he bests despite his deficiencies, I always estimate his fighting skill very highly in these kinds of matchups.

Ryu killed the Devil.

Considering the odds he goes up against, and the foes he bests despite his deficiencies, I always estimate his fighting skill very highly in these kinds of matchups.

sonicmj1

man, look at your own sig. how can a ninja, even if he's the best one out there, compete with a brutal killing machine like kratos?

and yes, Ryu killed the devil, but Kratos killed a God, some Titans and is about to dominate all heathen Gods. and *spoiler* he can even control time now... how can Ryu compare?

[QUOTE="sonicmj1"]

Ryu killed the Devil.

Considering the odds he goes up against, and the foes he bests despite his deficiencies, I always estimate his fighting skill very highly in these kinds of matchups.

SambaLele

man, look at your own sig. how can a ninja, even if he's the best one out there, compete with a brutal killing machine like kratos?

and yes, Ryu killed the devil, but Kratos killed a God, some Titans and is about to dominate all heathen Gods. and *spoiler* he can even control time now... how can Ryu compare?

What, so that bald sissy has to control time to beat Ryu now?

[QUOTE="sonicmj1"]

Ryu killed the Devil.

Considering the odds he goes up against, and the foes he bests despite his deficiencies, I always estimate his fighting skill very highly in these kinds of matchups.

SambaLele

man, look at your own sig. how can a ninja, even if he's the best one out there, compete with a brutal killing machine like kratos?

and yes, Ryu killed the devil, but Kratos killed a God, some Titans and is about to dominate all heathen Gods. and *spoiler* he can even control time now... how can Ryu compare?

I don't know. But he's conquered some tough odds before. As long as Kratos is mortal, he's capable of losing. Short of repeated death-cheating hax, he can be defeated. And if something can be defeated, Ryu has a shot at victory. He has proved it time and again.

Brutality isn't the same as skill, and Ryu is a killing machine in his own right. And Kratos can't really control time unless he's at the Island of the Fates.

I don't know. But he's conquered some tough odds before. As long as Kratos is mortal, he's capable of losing. Short of repeated death-cheating hax, he can be defeated. And if something can be defeated, Ryu has a shot at victory. He has proved it time and again.

Brutality isn't the same as skill, and Ryu is a killing machine in his own right. And Kratos can't really control time unless he's at the Island of the Fates.

sonicmj1

Well said.

Put it this way: I've never fought an enemy in God of War that was nearly as fast as Ryu.

Ninja gaiden is the best game of last generation imo...and one of the best game ever created.

Challenge and gameplay beats characters and story...this is no movies...its videogames.

Finished both GOW...was fun but its a one way ride. When its finish you don't want to play again.Combat is way too repetitive. Those kill animations are very nice, but in the long run, they slow down the pace and becomes a pain to watch when you kill your 100th minautor. Well, for me at least.

Yes GOW has a lot of move and you can be creative...but in NG, the enemys actually fight back and have a lot more moves...every single one of them. That alone makes a big difference.

I understand that NG is not everybody's cup of tea, but for me, it utterly destroys GOW.

Guys - we're not talking about who is the better hypothetical badass (although a duel between these two would indeed be epic: Kratos brutal carnage vs. Ryu's skill, speed, and unearthly precision with his weaponry). We're talking about the games. And in this, I have to say that NG wins, though GoW is no slouch.

Gow definitely has an epic feel to it, and is a wonderfully fun game. The environments are huge, and the battles were always entertaining. And yes, it is a lot of fun to play as Kratos through a grossly inaccurate romp of Greek mythology.

However, at the end of the day, GoW is a fun, engaging, entertaining, pretty BUTTON MASHER. Even the button sequence games were just more button mashing with a little twist. The variety in weaponry was very slim as were the variety of moves. You really just hit one or two buttons, occasionally jumping for some added oomph.

NG on the other hand is most definitely not a button masher. Most weapons were very different with varied strengths and uses, each appropriate it its own time. The moves required great timing and skill - not just when there was a button sequence game, but with every single attack. Button mashing got you a quick one-way ticket to the "Reload" screen. You had to be on your toes. Each enemy was susceptible to only one or two specific moves, and you had to figure out which ones those were. Most enemies also required precision timing and a whole lot of blocking to avoid their devastating attacks. In GoW, when a group of 10 enemies showed up, you ripped through them with a few seconds of Kratos whirling his blades around. In NG, when 3-4 enemies showed up, you were in for a tough fight, having to take on each enemy in turn while holding off the others, timing attacks and defenses perfectly to survive.One slip-up, and you were toast.

So the gameplay goes to NG hands down. We know where the graphics go (anyone who says GoW is a fanboy - yes, it was pretty and had an epic feel, but NG had the best graphics of last gen without question). Replayability goes to NG, with its difficulty, the Hurricane Packs, and its insane point system that pushed you to act ever more quickly against your enemies.Story's were both great - GoW with the convoluted Greek mythology, NG with an original convoluted Japanese mythology-like story told in that quirky Japanese way (it didn't always make a lot of sense, but you knew it was epically cool in a mystic sort of way - and man, those cutscenes!).

So it's NG, guys. There's no way one can objectively say otherwise.

Like really like both.

NG has slightly better action, and GoW has much better pacing.

[QUOTE="fuzzysquash"][QUOTE="mentzer"]

Show you haven't played GoW. If you think it's easy to launch an enemy, hit them twice with the square button, throw 2 Zeus' bolts and then freeze them with Medusa's head so they crumble when they hit the ground is easy, you are sadly mistaken. Thus making the rest of your post irrevelant.

Get a clue kiddo.

mentzer

I haven't played GoW? :lol:

http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/action/godofwar/player_review.html?id=324757

http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/action/godofwar2/player_review.html?id=471836

Your little combo there sounds fancy, but totally unecessary. Most of the time all you have to do is hold one button and press another (circle, square, or triangle) to unleash a long combo without breaking a sweat. Even casuals can pull off cool moves with God of War--that's it's widespread appeal.

On the other hand, you must learn complex button combos to survive in Ninja Gaiden. NG is designed more like a fighting game, while God of War is doubtlessly a button masher. Yeah, you can toss a guy up, hit em twice with square, throw some bolts at him, then freeze him with Medusa, but these are more stunts for show and are not representative of the game design as a whole. Jaffe even said that it was his intention not to make a game that casuals can pick up and play. And that means its combat system is very different from a hardcore game like NG.

That statement right there shows you are totally clueless. I could say the same thing about NG's moveset. Fancy, but unecessary. I could just use the Izuna drop throughout the whole game and finish NG without touching any other weapon or trying to do the more complicated combos. And with the bosses I could just use the Dragon Sword and use the Flying Swallow consistently to defeat almost all the bosses. Please don't tell me that you can't, because I have done it. I've owned and finished every version of NG.

And no, you don't hold down one button in GoW to create long combos. Anybody that has played the first GoW can tell you combo's are created using the square, triangle, circle, and R1 buttons. That doesn't count the singular moves that you can execute while blocking and the magic.

Don't care what your links show. You haven't played GoW.

i agree with you that i dont use any other weapon beside the dual sword and i keep doing the izuna drop to slam on the enemies on the ground as well for multiple kills.

TBH i have more fun with GOW than NGS but both are great games and wish NG2 came to the ps3 but i guess ill have to be content with the awesome GOW 3

Personally i think Devil May Cry belongs in this debate as well.

Story- Devil May Cry>God of War>Ninja Gaiden

Main Character-Dante>Ryu>Kratos

Gameplay>Ninja Gaiden>Devil May Cry> God of War.

As far as the action games go.

Its
1-Ninja Gaiden
2-Devil May Cry
3-God of War

I think it's likely that Ryu would swiftly decapitate Kratos before Kratos could even mutter a grunt.Zeliard9

dont ever underestimate the heart of a merciless killer

Well...that's tough i will have to say both and I'm serious when i say both because both have their own flaws and their own positives. God of War can occasionally be very annoying when you get stuck on a puzzle that is made well but it can be sometimes annoying when your just walking around, wandering what to do next. Ninja Gaiden has some really fustrating boss battles and really awkward save spots that are too far from a boss battle, that will definitely leave a vein popping out of your neck with fustration. Both games have excellent gameplay, GoW has intelligentelly made puzzles that are generally pretty easy to get by save for a few, fun and classic hack and slash gameplay with lots of depth to the weapons and magic, a wonderfully told story, topped with great boss battles. Ninja Gaiden has intense and engaging gameplay, tactical combat system with some very creative boss battles and...ninjas...in leather tights, oooh yeah 8)