Nintendo dominates in the RPG market, jelly?

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#1 LiquidAjax
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Pokemon blows every other rpg out of the water. Sucks to be anyone else.
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#2 GreenGoblin2099
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Can't debate that...

Still, it's the same repetitive sh!t with every iteration. Gotta be a true fanboy to not realize (or care) about it.

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#3 GD1551
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Well if you are 12 or so I guess this is a valid claim with an acceptable example.

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#4 Valknut4
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I guess it is the best selling, best rated RPG series of all time. Hard to argue with that.

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#7 IAmNot_fun
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Can't debate that...

Still, it's the same repetitive sh!t with every iteration. Gotta be a true fanboy to not realize (or care) about it.

GreenGoblin2099
To be honest, if they changed Pokemon (and I mean the gameplay mechanics) too much, because of how one generation is connected to the next one, all hell will break lose. Especially since 4th gen opened up Wi-Fi and now the MP and trading is really active. But they could change the aesthetics (and that's what most of ppl want really), and from what they have shown us in 5th gen, 6th gen is likely to change many things aesthetically.
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#8 Kanghaskhan
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I have to agree. Pokemon is so deep. Much deeper than most people realize. It really makes shallow games like Skyrim and Diablo III looks so weak and useless.
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#9 cain006
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Can't debate that...

Still, it's the same repetitive sh!t with every iteration. Gotta be a true fanboy to not realize (or care) about it.

GreenGoblin2099

I think they change just the right amount of stuff. They introduce a couple game changing updates every iteration and give you 100 or so new pokemon. It's not a bad deal considering it's easy to get over 100 hours out of one game.

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#10 inb4uall
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Can't debate that...

Still, it's the same repetitive sh!t with every iteration. Gotta be a true fanboy to not realize (or care) about it.

GreenGoblin2099

the formula doesn't change but the battle mechanics along with EV and IVs are changed. not to mention the graphical improvement and the new pokes with each game.

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#11 GD1551
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Ignore him, he hates anything that isn't Western-based.

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Hence why I have a gif of blood C in my signature... hmm...

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#12 inb4uall
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[QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]

Can't debate that...

Still, it's the same repetitive sh!t with every iteration. Gotta be a true fanboy to not realize (or care) about it.

cain006

I think they change just the right amount of stuff. They introduce a couple game changing updates every iteration and give you 100 or so new pokemon. It's not a bad deal considering it's easy to get over 100 hours out of one game.

its HARD to get less then 100 hours out of the game...

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#13 Kanghaskhan
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[QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]

Can't debate that...

Still, it's the same repetitive sh!t with every iteration. Gotta be a true fanboy to not realize (or care) about it.

IAmNot_fun
To be honest, if they changed Pokemon (and I mean the gameplay mechanics) too much, because of how one generation is connected to the next one, all hell will break lose. Especially since 4th gen opened up Wi-Fi and now the MP and trading is really active. But they could change the aesthetics (and that's what most of ppl want really), and from what they have shown us in 5th gen, 6th gen is likely to change many things aesthetically.

Yeh a 3D pokemon would be pretty awesome.
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#14 inb4uall
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we also can't forget fire emblem, paper mario, the Mario and Luigi series.... am I forgetting any?

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#15 sandbox3d
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I thought this would be a handheld thread.

I never did play Pokemon. There have been times in recent years that I thought of giving it a shot, but there are so damn many of them I have no idea where to begin.

I am Jelly of Nintendo handhelds getting all these good rpgs though. I cant stand playing on handhelds and when I see all the good games they get I do become very, very jelly.

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#16 caryslan2
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we also can't forget fire emblem, paper mario, the Mario and Luigi series.... am I forgetting any?

inb4uall

Xenoblade is one of the best RPGs this generation. Also, can't forget Mother or Golden Sun.

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#17 IAmNot_fun
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[QUOTE="cain006"]

[QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]

Can't debate that...

Still, it's the same repetitive sh!t with every iteration. Gotta be a true fanboy to not realize (or care) about it.

inb4uall

I think they change just the right amount of stuff. They introduce a couple game changing updates every iteration and give you 100 or so new pokemon. It's not a bad deal considering it's easy to get over 100 hours out of one game.

its HARD to get less then 100 hours out of the game...

If you are casual, SP-only guy with no interest in MP or BT/BS, it's easy to finish it before you pass 100 hours.
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#18 Bigboi500
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[QUOTE="inb4uall"]

we also can't forget fire emblem, paper mario, the Mario and Luigi series.... am I forgetting any?

caryslan2

Xenoblade is one of the best RPGs this generation. Also, can't forget Mother or Golden Sun.

The Last Story.

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#19 IAmNot_fun
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I thought this would be a handheld thread.

I never did play Pokemon. There have been times in recent years that I thought of giving it a shot, but there are so damn many of them I have no idea where to begin.

I am Jelly of Nintendo handhelds getting all these good rpgs though. I cant stand playing on handhelds and when I see all the good games they get I do become very, very jelly.

sandbox3d
If you really want to begin, start with BW, it's the newest one and a reboot, so you only have to worry about the newest 150 pokemons until after you have finished the game's story.
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#20 sandbox3d
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[QUOTE="sandbox3d"]

I thought this would be a handheld thread.

I never did play Pokemon. There have been times in recent years that I thought of giving it a shot, but there are so damn many of them I have no idea where to begin.

I am Jelly of Nintendo handhelds getting all these good rpgs though. I cant stand playing on handhelds and when I see all the good games they get I do become very, very jelly.

IAmNot_fun

If you really want to begin, start with BW, it's the newest one and a reboot, so you only have to worry about the newest 150 pokemons until after you have finished the game's story.

:lol:

Sounds good lol. As long as its fun to play I dont think I'll obsess over knowing the entire story arch.

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#21 deactivated-57d307c5efcda
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I would have agreed with you if the Pokemon just didn't look so stupid now. I like the gameplay changes, I just would rather use the first 250 or so and forget the rest. I can't even complete White because the pokemon just look so stupid and I can't find any pokemon I actually like. When they have come down to a freaking trashbag with feet they have run out of ideas. I miss my squirtles, mews and such, you know, when they were actually based off of animals and actually looked cool.

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#22 IAmNot_fun
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[QUOTE="IAmNot_fun"][QUOTE="sandbox3d"]

I thought this would be a handheld thread.

I never did play Pokemon. There have been times in recent years that I thought of giving it a shot, but there are so damn many of them I have no idea where to begin.

I am Jelly of Nintendo handhelds getting all these good rpgs though. I cant stand playing on handhelds and when I see all the good games they get I do become very, very jelly.

sandbox3d

If you really want to begin, start with BW, it's the newest one and a reboot, so you only have to worry about the newest 150 pokemons until after you have finished the game's story.

:lol:

Sounds good lol. As long as its fun to play I dont think I'll obsess over knowing the entire story arch.

Story is bad anyway. In Pokemon, it's all about training that perfect team. And for those who are obsessed with MP, SP is just a long-@ss tutorial.
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#23 psymon100
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Oh yeah Pokemon.

How do you get Pikachu onto a bus?

Pokemon (poke-him-on).

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#24 LiquidAjax
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Oh yeah Pokemon.

How do you get Pikachu onto a bus?

Pokemon (poke-him-on).

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You're stupid, go lay down.
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#25 IAmNot_fun
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I would have agreed with you if the Pokemon just didn't look so stupid now. I like the gameplay changes, I just would rather use the first 250 or so and forget the rest. I can't even complete White because the pokemon just look so stupid and I can't find any pokemon I actually like. When they have come down to a freaking trashbag with feet they have run out of ideas. I miss my squirtles, mews and such, you know, when they were actually based off of animals and actually looked cool.

ryangcnx-2
They still have cool ones now and they had bad ones back then too. Togekiss, Samurott, Haxorus, Zoroark, Whimsicott, Leafeon, Glaceon, all from 4th and 5th gen Muk, Drowzee, Seaking, Weezing, Jynx, all from 1st gen
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#26 sandbox3d
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[QUOTE="sandbox3d"]

[QUOTE="IAmNot_fun"] If you really want to begin, start with BW, it's the newest one and a reboot, so you only have to worry about the newest 150 pokemons until after you have finished the game's story.IAmNot_fun

:lol:

Sounds good lol. As long as its fun to play I dont think I'll obsess over knowing the entire story arch.

Story is bad anyway. In Pokemon, it's all about training that perfect team. And for those who are obsessed with MP, SP is just a long-@ss tutorial.

Oh thats cool then. I dont really do much mp gaming these days and I do get easily obsessed over stat building. Sounds like its worth a shot! And if I end up liking it at least I know there is no shortage of games in the series. :P

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Sure, if you're 12 years old...
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#28 layton2012
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I agree.
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#29 Ghost120x
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After falling asleep while playing Pokemon white I have to say the games are getting stale. Luckily the dsi has good battery life I woke up in time to close my ds and charge it.
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#30 campzor
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well yeah... obviously.
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#31 ispeakfact
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No Demons and Dark Souls = no Domination of rpg market
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Hilarious
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#33 bbkkristian
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Yup agreed. Don't forget the RPGs that arrived on Wii as well.
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#34 N30F3N1X
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I have to agree. Pokemon is so deep. Much deeper than most people realize. It really makes shallow games like Skyrim and Diablo III looks so weak and useless.Kanghaskhan

Why are you comparing an RPG franchise to two games that aren't RPGs?

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#35 bbkkristian
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[QUOTE="Kanghaskhan"]I have to agree. Pokemon is so deep. Much deeper than most people realize. It really makes shallow games like Skyrim and Diablo III looks so weak and useless.N30F3N1X

Why are you comparing an RPG franchise to two games that aren't RPGs?

Its pretty sad when people argue about what is an RPG and what isn't.
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#36 mexicangordo
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You would think Nintendo dominates teh RPG market with Pandora's Tower, The Last Story, and Xenoblade...but Pokemon is cool too.

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#37 caryslan2
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I would have agreed with you if the Pokemon just didn't look so stupid now. I like the gameplay changes, I just would rather use the first 250 or so and forget the rest. I can't even complete White because the pokemon just look so stupid and I can't find any pokemon I actually like. When they have come down to a freaking trashbag with feet they have run out of ideas. I miss my squirtles, mews and such, you know, when they were actually based off of animals and actually looked cool.

ryangcnx-2


You do realize the first generation had pokemon that were based on a pile of sludge(Grimer and Muk), magnets, and a Pokeball, right? The later generations have their share of animal-based Pokemon as well. About the only generation where I disliked almost every Pokemon design was the third generation. In my opinion, the First, Second, and Fourth generations had the best Pokemon designs, the fifth is in the middle(they leaned more towards Gen III at times), and Gen III was the worst of the lot.

But every generation has seen its share of off the wall Pokemon designs. That's part of the fun with the series. Not everyone needs to be based on an animal.

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[QUOTE="Kanghaskhan"]I have to agree. Pokemon is so deep. Much deeper than most people realize. It really makes shallow games like Skyrim and Diablo III looks so weak and useless.N30F3N1X

Why are you comparing an RPG franchise to two games that aren't RPGs?

How is Skyrim not an RPG?

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#39 AmnesiaHaze
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No Demons and Dark Souls = no Domination of rpg marketispeakfact
and also no fallout 3 , new vegas , oblivion , skyrim , final fantasies ... just to name a few more
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#40 ultimate-k
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If you are 10 and like only have the option for 4 attacks, then good for you. Iam not jelly as I play big man RPGs thats too rude for a kid, like WItcher 2.

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[QUOTE="GD1551"]

Well if you are 12 or so I guess this is a valid claim with an acceptable example.

LiquidAjax
Sounds like you went full

Well, I guess we'll be seeing you again once you get back from your suspension, bye! :) BTW, Pokemon is pretty boring, and I hate Turn based RPGs anyways, action RPGs are where it's at.
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#42 parkurtommo
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[QUOTE="N30F3N1X"]

[QUOTE="Kanghaskhan"]I have to agree. Pokemon is so deep. Much deeper than most people realize. It really makes shallow games like Skyrim and Diablo III looks so weak and useless.MikeMoose

Why are you comparing an RPG franchise to two games that aren't RPGs?

How is Skyrim not an RPG?

here-we-go-again.jpg.

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[QUOTE="LiquidAjax"][QUOTE="GD1551"]

Well if you are 12 or so I guess this is a valid claim with an acceptable example.

parkurtommo

Sounds like you went full

Well, I guess we'll be seeing you again once you get back from your suspension, bye! :) BTW, Pokemon is pretty boring, and I hate Turn based RPGs anyways, action RPGs are where it's at.

You mean the JRPG st.yle of this combat. And you've never played Temple of Elemental Evil.

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#44 TheShadowLord07
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wouldnt mind seeing nintendo doing a wii u pokemon rpg that was different from the handhelds game(you know,so not to make the fanbase upset)

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#45 YoshiYogurt
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Please show me a company that can makes this many good RPGs with this much variety. -Mario RPG -Pokemon -Mario and Luigi Trilogy -Fire emblem -Paper mario games
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#46 AmnesiaHaze
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[QUOTE="YoshiYogurt"]Please show me a company that can makes this many good RPGs with this much variety. -Mario RPG -Pokemon -Mario and Luigi Trilogy -Fire emblem -Paper mario games

3 of 5 listed titles are mario , thats what you call variety ?
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#47 parkurtommo
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[QUOTE="parkurtommo"][QUOTE="LiquidAjax"] Sounds like you went full Lucianu

Well, I guess we'll be seeing you again once you get back from your suspension, bye! :) BTW, Pokemon is pretty boring, and I hate Turn based RPGs anyways, action RPGs are where it's at.

You mean the JRPG st.yle of this combat. And you've never played Temple of Elemental Evil.

No I have not. :P
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#48 cain006
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I would have agreed with you if the Pokemon just didn't look so stupid now. I like the gameplay changes, I just would rather use the first 250 or so and forget the rest. I can't even complete White because the pokemon just look so stupid and I can't find any pokemon I actually like. When they have come down to a freaking trashbag with feet they have run out of ideas. I miss my squirtles, mews and such, you know, when they were actually based off of animals and actually looked cool.

ryangcnx-2

There was a bunch of badly designed pokemon in gen 1 too. Muk/grimer, Jynx, Mr Mime, Cloyster, Magmar, etc. Every generation has had some duds but every generation also has some awesome pokemon.

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#49 AmayaPapaya
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Xenoblade, Last Story, Pokemon, Fire Emblem, and more? Yeah, that wouldn't be far off.

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#50 N30F3N1X
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Its pretty sad when people argue about what is an RPG and what isn't. bbkkristian

What's sad is seeing ignorant people who can't even tell a game's genre.