Nintendo Hardware is underpowered! 8 more days until Nintendo spills the beans

Nintendo a small gaming company back in the sega vs nintendo era? did you know that in 1993 mario was more popular among children than the freaking mickey mouse?

@leandrro: They are still a small company compared to Microsoft and Sony. Nintendo only does gaming.

GS here said interest was low due to the power issue and that peoples cell phones are more powerful. Sad.

Still will be Gen 9 leader, while Sony will struggle to catch up!

and you have a better solution that wouldn't cost £500 or more? (I'm refering to a handheld/console hybrid with actual power...) yea right.

Why does it need identical 3rd party titles when you already have a machine... that does those 3rd party titles? unless you secretly like the portable idea more than you like to let on.

peoples cell phones are £600 + contract or pay as you go... the ones that can do that anyway.

nah I'm not buying that shit... what phone is more powerful than a Tegra X1 tablet currently? I call bullshit.

Maybe better CPU and more RAM? but not dedicated graphics support.

When the NES launched, it was the most powerful home system, up until the Sega Master System came along and surpassed it.

@Jag85: People forget that the NES had 1983 hardware and came out fully on 1986. Just how PC-Engine is 1987 hardware and came out in the US 1990 as the Turbo Grafix 16. It's debatable to consider the PC-Engine as Gen 3 since it did came out late 80's in Japan and when the NES and Master System was release in NA.

While it's true that the NES had dated hardware by the time it released internationally in 1986, what allowed it to dominate North America was the strong third-party library it had built-up from 1983 to 1986 in Japan, which in turn was because of how powerful it was back in 1983. The power it had back in 1983 was what convinced Japanese third-parties to jump on board, so that by the time it launched in North America with dated hardware in 1986, it more than made up for it with a strong library right from the start.

The PC-Engine/TurboGrafx-16 is definitely Gen 4. It was a big leap forward compared to the Gen 3 consoles, much like the NES was compared to the Gen 2 consoles.

It really sad how people defend Nintendo but in the same breath they'll trash Sony and MS who is offering a lot more features and power in their consoles. People like TC are the reason Nintendo is lazy and overly cocky. They release 2 underpowered consoles in one generation and it's o.K. They fk up Starfox and Metroid but's o.K. They ignorre F-Zero and other classic Nintendo franchise but it's o.K. They're far behind in online features but it's ok.FK Nintendo shields who think Nintendo can do no wrong. Most people defending Nintendo are hypocrites if it were Sony or MS your tune would change.

LOL WUT? Sony and MS aren't doing anything other than rehashing the same console brand with new insides.

@Blazed: It's pretty sad how gamers trash Nintendo when it's a console designed for all ages and genders instead of them devices designed for adult males.

Indeed. Nintendo is out of touch and continues to release weal, outdated hardware.

@Heil68: I predict that your wife will buy you a Switch as an Anniversary present :P

Its sad when people think that PS4 and Xbox One only caters to adult males when its also played by more people of all ages than Nintendo's last console iteration. Its really sad.

Not really. They cater to small demographic and no one trashes Nintendo it's only criticism at best.

You Nintendo shields are the one's hurting Nintendo. You literally praise everything they do including the BS.

@Pedro: Yeah right, look at the top selling games, all adult male games. Then compare to popular games on Nintendo devices, you get a very different picture.

One day y'all just have to accept the two are just very different audiences. Not even our third party taste are the same.

That's becuase the popular game son X1/PS4 aren't available on Wiiu. Wiiu gamers don't have the ability to play any PS4/X1 excluive or big 3rd party game on the Wiiu console..lol

@Heil68: Even when we had those games they werent most popular. We have different audience. And it still dont explain why those systems are plagued with them and not more diverse.

With all the damage control from every sheep in the universe (not just talking about SW), i feel like Nintendo fans were conditioned to accept shitty hardware and EVEN defend the company for releasing a disappointing pos. What a joke.

@silversix_: Or maybe you know, they dont care for graphical gimmicks.

You were conditioned to not care about anything that is Negative. Understandable.

@silversix_: Sounds like something a negative fanboy would say. Excuse us for being optimistic instead of a negative nanny.

Even if you wanted to, you're unable to be negative about Nintendo.

@silversix_: Whatever you say mate.

So much Sheep damage control in this thread. Don't you guys get tired of defending shit Nintendo hardware? No one is saying you can't enjoy the Switch for what it is but don't try and convince us it's not dated shit hardware because it is. Maybe some devs will be able to look past its outdated hardware and still release games for it but my money is on Western 3rd party abandoning it like they did with the WiiU. On the plus side, Japanese 3rd party devs will probably support it more than they did with WiiU.

@quadknight: How is it dated, it has 4g ram and can run unreal 4 engine. Its a lot more powerful than Wii U and can be played on the go.

Please just stop....lol. What year is it?

@quadknight: Again, how is it dated tech, its way more powerful than Wii U, it runs Unreal 4, etc, its more energy efficient than any other gaming device, and its portable.

It's extremely dated dude. If the Xbone is struggling to run UE4 games at decent resolution what makes you think the Switch with its anemic 4GB of RAM will be playing the latest 3rd party UE4 games in 2017? Being able to run heavily scaled back UE4 doesn't guarantee it will be able to play the latest 3rd party games in 2017. You realize power wise we are probably looking at less than 400GFlops of power on the Switch when it's docked?

Being more powerful than the WiiU isn't an achievement in 2017 dude. I know you Sheep have crappy standards when it comes to hardware but still lol, the WiiU was a potato even in 2012. You can say the Switch is reasonable power for a handheld, which it is but to say it's not extremely underpowered for a console is just being delusional at this point.

@quadknight said:

@iandizion713 said:

@quadknight: How is it dated, it has 4g ram and can run unreal 4 engine. Its a lot more powerful than Wii U and can be played on the go.

Please just stop....lol. What year is it?

Almost 2017

Nintendo Switch will most likely be 50% more powerful than Wii U mate. Even in portable mode itll be more powerful than the Wii U. Also will be more efficient. There is no device that can come close to its innovation.

Again, this is not an achievement in 2017. The WiiU was a potato even in 2012.

@silversix_:lol

@quadknight: The Wii U was different too. It was a highly efficient machine. Super low wattage. But you can laugh all you want, youll only embarrass yourself. I dont think you have any clue what dated tech is.

I wonder how well that turned out for Nintendo lol.

Trust me dude, I'm not the one embarrassing myself in this thread. Look in a mirror lol.

@quadknight: Whatever you say mate.

Why would anyone defend less power? If you're a gamer, more power is always preferable. That doesn't mean gameplay would have to be sacrificed either as seems to be the implication.....we can have both. The only reason I can see for sticking up for Nintendo is if you take interest in their business politics or are an investor that desires profit from day 1. The reason they don't go all out is due to economic philosophy and a conservative strategy. How that benefits us as gamers I fail to see, nor any valid justification past being a corporate shill.

As if Nintendo brought out a system like the PS4 Pro or Scorpio we'd hear one complaint from those defending them currently. Nobody would be saying anything.

What the Cows and Lemmings repeatedly fail to understand is that the Switch is a handheld, first and foremost. Just because you can dock the handheld, that doesn't make it a proper home console. It's nonsensical to complain about why a handheld isn't as powerful as a home console. They're not comparable.

Okay, I need a combo of animated sitcom laughs:

Because clearly there weren't people trashing the hell out of Nintendo for varying reasons. Like having certain third party games exclusive (up until SOME of them going multiplat).

Sony has a variety of art styles and gameplay while pretty much every Nintendo game is cartoony. That alone kills your arguement.

People see Nintendo as a Disney company. Plus Nintendo consoles are weak. They lag behind Sony and MS not only in power but online features aswell. By default they only atract kids and core Nintendo fans.

Sony is catering to nearly everyone.That's why Sony is dominating the console market. Top selling games on Ps2 were also Dude Bro titles outside games like FF. I don't think Nintendo fans are "different" they just like one style of games.

@Blazed: Theyre clearly different. Even if you only look at Sony, its clear who they cater to. They cater to adult males. Nintendo caters to a more diverse crowd. Look at Pokemon, Smash Bros, Mario Kart, Zelda, Metroid, Animal Crossing, Style Savvy, Kirby, Tomodachi Life, etc.

4 player coop, 2 player coop, strategy, puzzle games, racing, shooters, action, turn base, role playing, you name it they got it. Games for kids who can read, cant read. All ages, all genders, all genres, all types.

Nintendo systems are designed to help developers and gamers. It doesnt rely on graphical gimmicks, or entertainment gimmicks. Its low cost so that developers can bring gamers more diverse and risky games. Its online is free and more safe so kids too can enjoy it. People from all around the world can play together no matter what language one speaks.

Its offers features for gamers to easily share info with each other on Miiverse also which is unique and one of a kind. Just creating a system with lots of power is easy, yet we dont just want power, Nintendo fans demand a more balanced approach.

Sheep taking the Switch being more powerful than the Wii U as a sign of hope.

Somebody put these sheep out their misery.

@rasengan2552: Deal with it bro. Nintendo is giving us more power, more games, more efficiency, more portability, etc. Everything gamers love, a true gaming balance this universe has not seen before.

Nintendo is advertising it as their new home console. Blame them for the comparison.

why? they're genuinely funny. there is not gaming related fanboys that are more delusional than a real sheep. a lem can try their best and they won't even reach 50% of what a sheep is.

Yes Nintendo hardware is underpowered. NES underpowered 1976 CPU But Nintendo got away with it, Due to their then Draconian policy of publishing for the system. SNES was decent despite having a lower clocked CPU then SEGA. Plus being a full 2 years late But managed to win that generation 49.10 Million VS 32 Million During the Mega Drive original run.

N64 was the most powerful console 64 bit but the choice of cartridges killed the system nullified the tech advantage over PlayStation which won 104 million to 32 million for the N64. 32 Bits and CD Rom 700 MB beat 64 Bits and Cartridge 2MB-64MB

Gamecube was more powerful than PlayStation 2 but lessor than the original Xbox, But finished dead last after Sony and Microsoft. With only 21.74 Million Gamecube's sold. The mini DVD Rom killed the system and near lack of on-line. Gamecube only had 4 games on-line enabled.

The Wii was Nintendo's total fluke. 101.4 million sold due to the motion controls Wii Mote. out of a library of 1700 DVD Physical games only 75-80 are worthwhile. The vast majority of Wii Games are junk Shovel ware. The Wii sold very well to non gamers. Most bought the console for Wii Sports and never bought another game except Wii fit or Wii Fit plus. The balance board sold very well to soccer moms. But the Wii was a bust for third parties since only Nintendo first party games sold well on the Wii. The Wii was way underpowered compared to Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3. The Wii was a total fluke as Motion controls today in 2016 are dead. The fad ended the Blue Ocean went to iPhone/ipad. Angry birds, Candy Crush, Flappy Bird and now even Nintendo is trying with Mario Run. Nintendo got away with the Wii.

The Wii U was Nintendo's latest underpowered console. Compared to Xbox one and PlayStation 4. The Wii U was just equal to Xbox 360 and PS3. With a tablet shaped controller that Most games did not even use, The Wii U Gamepad was a solution to a problem that did not exist. Nintendo saw the rise of tablet computer gaming. Nintendo thought having a controller shaped like a tablet would be enough. It wasn't Thus the Wii U only sold 13.32 million worldwide. barely last 4 full years. The Wii U had 25 must play games out of a total library of only 155 physical Blu Ray Rom disc releases.

The NES, Wii, Wii U were way underpowered. The N64 and Gamecube were decent hardware but crippled by choice of Media. Cartridges and Mini DVD ROM. Nintendo sometimes got away with underpowered hardware. NES and Wii. Other times not so much N64, Gamecube, Wii U. So now with the Nintendo Switch coming. he Nintendo Switch is once again Underpowered. So we shall see, If Nintendo will get away with having underpowered hardware again.

The NES was the most powerful home system of the early '80s, easily overpowering consoles like the SG-1000, ColecoVision, and Atari 5200/7800. It wasn't until the Master System came along that the NES was surpassed in power. Also, the final sales number for the Mega Drive is unknown. The 32 million number is incomplete, not including any sales after 1995. Its final sales number falls somewhere around 36-40 million, not that much lower than the SNES.

While N64 cartridges were smaller, the N64 supported JPEG/MPEG compression, which multiplied the amount of data its cartridges could hold. That's how two discs of Resident Evil 2 was squeezed down to a 64 MB cartridge. The real killer was the manufacturing costs for the cartridges.

The GameCube was roughly on-par with the Xbox in terms of power. The GameCube had certain advantages over the Xbox, and vice versa. The mini-disc wasn't a disadvantage, as the GameCube supported DivX compression, allowing its mini-discs to hold nearly as much data as a PS2 DVD.

Nintendo's under-powered reputation began with the Wii. Their earlier consoles before that, from the NES to the GameCube, were all powerful for their time.

aint gonna get it, aint gonna get it, especially when a cell phone is more powerful than your console...lolz

It is powerful for a handheld but the Tegra X1 chip is already a almost two years old and the Nintendo Switch variant of it runs at 300Mhz compared to the 1GHz that is already in tablets... F*** even when docked its not running as fast as it could.

Its a joke really.

In all honesty this thing is just a joke in terms of hardware. Absolutely nothing about it is appealing... Its just something we have to accept in order to play Zelda and that's all that POS will be used for unless Nintendo wake the f*** up, but I have a strong feeling this thing will be filled to the brim with Mario run type bull s***.

@MBirdy88:

Google Pixel tablet ~= 14 watts, Less than 1 Ghz.

Shield TV ~=21 watts, 1Ghz version.

Near 6 inch phone size fogm factor needs to be lower than Google's Pixel tablet. Lower energy consumption =lower performance. Switch's 300 MHz version is expected and it's about 1/3 of Shield TV