NINTENDO HAS a history of destroying competition.

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#101 Maneil99
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maybe if you're ten and haven't played for more then 1 generation

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#102 HaloPimp978
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I can agree with that

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#103 GameboyTroy
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maybe if you're ten and haven't played for more then 1 generation

Maneil99
A common answer from a hater. The SNES owned. I'm 25.
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#104 GameboyTroy
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maybe if you're ten and haven't played for more then 1 generation

Maneil99
A common answer from a hater. The SNES owned. I'm 25.
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#105 Zeviander
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*cough * Nintendo 64 and Gamecube *cough*Miroku32
Despite popular belief, those were highly lucrative and profitable ventures for Nintendo. Helps when profit is built into the product strategy. Nintendo isn't destroying Microsoft, and Sony is the architect of their own demise (seriously, no Vita exclusive, and only one decently strong PS3 exclusive for holiday 2012?).
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#107 locopatho
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Who cares how much they sell, unless they have the best games lineup it doesn't matter to me as a gamer.
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#108 jsmoke03
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[QUOTE="amaneuvering"]

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]Sorry, but this makes no sense and seems like just wishful thinking Nintendo fanboy. THe data we have suggest Genesis was outselling SNES all the time when they competed agaist eachother. NPD clearly states Genesis maintaned it's lead in US. What's more...Sega didn't really have any lead over Nintendo before SNES launched. Genesis was selling like utter garbage untill Sonic launched and that was like two months before SNES was out in US.

This coupled with the fact that SNES sold more eventually leads to simple conclusion that the overall sales of SNES being better than Genesis is entirelly due to the fact that it kept being sold for almost half decade after Genesis stoped being produced

amaneuvering

Yeah, 55% one particular year really isn't spanking it.

Also, most sources put the SNES ahead in both North America and Japan with the Genesis taking the lead in Europe (or other) by the end of their lives. So in terms of sales, at best it could be argued the SNES destroyed the Genesis Japan, they were relatively even in North America (although most sources do suggest the SNES did win there by a small amount) and the Geneses won in Europe (or other)

Also you are way off in the timelines.

The Genesis had a roughly 2 year start on the SNES in all territories. The SNES was discontinued the same year as the Genesis in America based on the Wiki articles (so the Genesis still had two extra years of sales) but a lot longer in Japan (which is where it has the biggest lead by far).

Genesis dicontinued in NA 1999 (because Majesco continued selling it) and worlwide in general 1997 -http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sega_Genesis

Super Nintendo discontinued in NA 1999 and 2003 Japan -http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Nintendo_Entertainment_System

Also, check this out:

Genesis

1991 - $586
1992 - $1,151
1993 - $1,938
1994 - $1,812
1995 - $812
1996 - $294
1997 - $180

SNES

1991 - $560
1992 - $1,733 ^
1993 - $1,890
1994 - $1,471
1995 - $823 ^
1996 - $514 ^
1997 - $243 ^

http://segatastic.blogspot.co.uk/2009/12/mega-drive-sales-figures-update.html

SNES made more revenue for 4 out of the 7 years it was on sale directly Vs the Genesis based on those numbers. Genesis did however do better than SNES on 3 of those years so fairs fair.

Note: The America numbers in that article count Brazil as part of the Genesis total America sales even though the SNES wasn't even available in Brazil. So if you just use the North America figures then Nintendo is actually the winner there. It even counts the Nomad too, which really is not a Genesis. It's a friking handheld for God's sake.Fairs fair, right.

In reality, the SNES sold 23.35 million in North America Vs the Genesis selling 20 million. So SNES wins there as well as Japan. Fairs fair.

who cares about profit margin unless you are a stockholder... genesis outsold snes until they released 32x and sega cd which wouldve been a new gen in terms of sw rules...
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#109 jsmoke03
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[QUOTE="Miroku32"]

[QUOTE="LiquidAjax"]

Nintendo still made a profit form those two. Regardless....OP u are silly

painguy1
losing is based on hardware sales not profits,

[QUOTE="LiquidAjax"]They made atari disappear, they destroyed sega, they're destroying Microsoft and sony now. Look at their profits. Nintendo will never lose and alwyas will be in first.razgriz_101

Sega and atari fell out the market due to stupid buisness decisions which hurt their brand.Not Ninty's fault besides atari pretty much fell by the wayside before ninty even entered the western markets.

dont bother with ajax...he's being a lot ignorant right now because he has blind fanboy disease
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#110 Liquid_
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[QUOTE="percuvius2"]

[QUOTE="Liquid_"]

Oh by the way, Playstation offers free online services.

Timstuff

This just in : You get what you pay for

PC online is free. You cannot possibly hope to argue that PC does not have better online than Xbox Live.

PC>PS3>PS2>PS1>SNES>ATARI>XBOX 360
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#111 percuvius2
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[QUOTE="percuvius2"]

[QUOTE="Liquid_"]

Oh by the way, Playstation offers free online services.

Timstuff

This just in : You get what you pay for

PC online is free. You cannot possibly hope to argue that PC does not have better online than Xbox Live.

PC is not one company there is no one to monopolize online. Apples and oranges.

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[QUOTE="Liquid_"]

Oh by the way, Playstation offers free online services.

percuvius2

This just in : You get what you pay for

Hey, if it stays free of chrage, I definitely wont complaint. I'm more then happy with it

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Also, check this out:

Genesis

1991 - $586
1992 - $1,151
1993 - $1,938
1994 - $1,812
1995 - $812
1996 - $294
1997 - $180

SNES

1991 - $560
1992 - $1,733 ^
1993 - $1,890
1994 - $1,471
1995 - $823 ^
1996 - $514 ^
1997 - $243 ^

http://segatastic.blogspot.co.uk/2009/12/mega-drive-sales-figures-update.html

SNES made more revenue for 4 out of the 7 years it was on sale directly Vs the Genesis based on those numbers. Genesis did however do better than SNES on 3 of those years so fairs fair.

Note: The America numbers in that article count Brazil as part of the Genesis total America sales even though the SNES wasn't even available in Brazil. So if you just use the North America figures then Nintendo is actually the winner there. It even counts the Nomad too, which really is not a Genesis. It's a friking handheld for God's sake.Fairs fair, right.

In reality, the SNES sold 23.35 million in North America Vs the Genesis selling 20 million. So SNES wins there as well as Japan. Fairs fair.

amaneuvering


We're talking about sales here, not company revenues. All these numbers show is that Nintendo was also very successful with the Game Boy, whereas Sega flopped with the Game Gear, Sega CD, and 32X. It tells us nothing about how profitable the Mega Drive / Genesis and SNES themselves were. The fact of the matter is that, year by year, the Genesis outsold the SNES through to 1994. The SNES did not take the annual lead until 1995, by which time Sega had already moved on to focusing on the Saturn.

As for total regional sales, according to the sales data collected at Wikipedia, the Mega Drive / Genesis sold over 22.4-23.9 million in North America (as of 1997) in addition to 3 million in Brazil (as of 2012), adding up to a total of 25.4-27.9 million in the Americas, while the SNES sold a total of 23.35 million in the Americas (as of 2001, the last year it sold in the Americas). Keeping in mind that the Genesis was discontinued in North America in 1999 (as you pointed out above), that over 22.4-23.9 million figure for North America is in fact an under-estimate.

In other words, on a region-by-region basis:

Americas: Mega Drive/Genesis > SNES

(North America: Genesis >= SNES)

(South America: Mega Drive > SNES)

Europe: Mega Drive > SNES

Japan: SNES > Mega Drive