Nintendo has been behind the rest of the industry since 1996

N64 - They stuck with cartridges and lost every bit of 3rd party support.

Gamecube - They used small discs and missed out on most 3rd party games yet again.

Wii - It was the most underpowered console ever and had mandatory motion and waggle controls that 3rd parties wanted nothing to do with. It also had a laughably pathetic online system.

Wiiu - Yet another severely underpowered console with a gimmick controller.

On the software side of things they haven't created a single new quality core IP since the early 90s.

Over 15 years and 4 consoles later and Nintendo still hasn't learned why core gamers and 3rd parties want nothing to do with them.

NathanDrakeSwag

[QUOTE="Motokid6"][QUOTE="NathanDrakeSwag"]

N64 - They stuck with cartridges and lost every bit of 3rd party support.

Gamecube - They used small discs and missed out on most 3rd party games yet again.

Wii - It was the most underpowered console ever and had mandatory motion and waggle controls that 3rd parties wanted nothing to do with. It also had a laughably pathetic online system.

Wiiu - Yet another severely underpowered console with a gimmick controller.

On the software side of things they haven't created a single new quality core IP since the early 90s.

Over 15 years and 4 consoles later and Nintendo still hasn't learned why core gamers and 3rd parties want nothing to do with them.

Blazed

It should appeal to everybody not just kids/families. People wan't GTA and Mario on one console. Do you realise outdated harware is an easy way to lose 3rd party support?

I feel Nintendo and it's fans are limiting it's growth as a company, there's no harm in branching out and supporting all audiences.

[QUOTE="Blazed"]

[QUOTE="Motokid6"] "Under powered console" ..really? Does it really need to be powerful for kids who wanna play Mario? That's what Nintendo is catered to... Kids. And Wtf is wrong with that? Nintendo shouldn't even be mentioned in SW its apples and oranges f**k off with these threads.Heirren

It should appeal to everybody not just kids/families. People wan't GTA and Mario on one console. Do you realise outdated harware is an easy way to lose 3rd party support?

I feel Nintendo and it's fans are limiting it's growth as a company, there's no harm in branching out and supporting all audiences.

[QUOTE="jhcho2"]

[QUOTE="MBirdy88"]Wii outsold PS3, had a higher attachment rate, had the highest scoring exclusive this generation, top games in sales outsold anything on PS3. Your obsession is laughable.WilliamRLBaker

And how is all that 'success' working out for the Wii U?

Wii U sold moslty to none gamers. It was the first console to "win" with barely any games. LMAO It's nothing to brag about IMO. Many people were still playing ps2 games long afer it's generation.

[QUOTE="Blazed"]

[QUOTE="Motokid6"] "Under powered console" ..really? Does it really need to be powerful for kids who wanna play Mario? That's what Nintendo is catered to... Kids. And Wtf is wrong with that? Nintendo shouldn't even be mentioned in SW its apples and oranges f**k off with these threads.Heirren

It should appeal to everybody not just kids/families. People wan't GTA and Mario on one console. Do you realise outdated harware is an easy way to lose 3rd party support?

I feel Nintendo and it's fans are limiting it's growth as a company, there's no harm in branching out and supporting all audiences.

And now where's that "demographic"?

;)

[QUOTE="Heirren"][QUOTE="Blazed"]

It should appeal to everybody not just kids/families. People wan't GTA and Mario on one console. Do you realise outdated harware is an easy way to lose 3rd party support?

I feel Nintendo and it's fans are limiting it's growth as a company, there's no harm in branching out and supporting all audiences.

Blazed

And now where's that "demographic"?

;)

[QUOTE="Heirren"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"] As we continue to learn...graphics don't mean squat. Except for the SNES which had both superior graphics and great third party support. LegatoSkyheart

I actually thought the Genesis Graphics were better. The only thing SNES had was better Sound.

[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

[QUOTE="Heirren"] That's debatable, even if I might agree.nintendoboy16

I actually thought the Genesis Graphics were better. The only thing SNES had was better Sound.

[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

[QUOTE="Heirren"] That's debatable, even if I might agree.nintendoboy16

I actually thought the Genesis Graphics were better. The only thing SNES had was better Sound.

Vectorman?

Hey, if you can be "behind the industr"y and still sell millions and nillions of consoles, they are doing something right.

[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"][QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

I actually thought the Genesis Graphics were better. The only thing SNES had was better Sound.

MrYaotubo

Also I put Strider up against any game of the time as well.

[QUOTE="NathanDrakeSwag"]

N64 - They stuck with cartridges and lost every bit of 3rd party support.

Gamecube - They used small discs and missed out on most 3rd party games yet again.

Wii - It was the most underpowered console ever and had mandatory motion and waggle controls that 3rd parties wanted nothing to do with. It also had a laughably pathetic online system.

Wiiu - Yet another severely underpowered console with a gimmick controller.

On the software side of things they haven't created a single new quality core IP since the early 90s.

Over 15 years and 4 consoles later and Nintendo still hasn't learned why core gamers and 3rd parties want nothing to do with them.

AD216

[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

[QUOTE="Heirren"] That's debatable, even if I might agree.nintendoboy16

I actually thought the Genesis Graphics were better. The only thing SNES had was better Sound.

OH look yet another NathanDrakeSwag thread proving yet again how stupid he is.

N64 - They stuck with cartridges and lost every bit of 3rd party support.

Gamecube - They used small discs and missed out on most 3rd party games yet again.

Wii - It was the most underpowered console ever and had mandatory motion and waggle controls that 3rd parties wanted nothing to do with. It also had a laughably pathetic online system.

Wiiu - Yet another severely underpowered console with a gimmick controller.

On the software side of things they haven't created a single new quality core IP since the early 90s.

Over 15 years and 4 consoles later and Nintendo still hasn't learned why core gamers and 3rd parties want nothing to do with them.

NathanDrakeSwag

TC speaks the truth.

[QUOTE="NathanDrakeSwag"]

N64 - They stuck with cartridges and lost every bit of 3rd party support.

Gamecube - They used small discs and missed out on most 3rd party games yet again.

Wii - It was the most underpowered console ever and had mandatory motion and waggle controls that 3rd parties wanted nothing to do with. It also had a laughably pathetic online system.

Wiiu - Yet another severely underpowered console with a gimmick controller.

On the software side of things they haven't created a single new quality core IP since the early 90s.

Over 15 years and 4 consoles later and Nintendo still hasn't learned why core gamers and 3rd parties want nothing to do with them.

Gue1

TC speaks the truth.

[QUOTE="NathanDrakeSwag"]

N64 - They stuck with cartridges and lost every bit of 3rd party support.

Gamecube - They used small discs and missed out on most 3rd party games yet again.

Wii - It was the most underpowered console ever and had mandatory motion and waggle controls that 3rd parties wanted nothing to do with. It also had a laughably pathetic online system.

Wiiu - Yet another severely underpowered console with a gimmick controller.

On the software side of things they haven't created a single new quality core IP since the early 90s.

Over 15 years and 4 consoles later and Nintendo still hasn't learned why core gamers and 3rd parties want nothing to do with them.

Gue1

TC speaks the truth.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/truth

No.

[QUOTE="NathanDrakeSwag"]

N64 - They stuck with cartridges and lost every bit of 3rd party support.

Gamecube - They used small discs and missed out on most 3rd party games yet again.

Wii - It was the most underpowered console ever and had mandatory motion and waggle controls that 3rd parties wanted nothing to do with. It also had a laughably pathetic online system.

Wiiu - Yet another severely underpowered console with a gimmick controller.

On the software side of things they haven't created a single new quality core IP since the early 90s.

Over 15 years and 4 consoles later and Nintendo still hasn't learned why core gamers and 3rd parties want nothing to do with them.

Gue1

TC speaks the truth.

And who has made the most money from Console/games little tip it's not Sony.

[QUOTE="Gue1"]

[QUOTE="NathanDrakeSwag"]

N64 - They stuck with cartridges and lost every bit of 3rd party support.

Gamecube - They used small discs and missed out on most 3rd party games yet again.

Wii - It was the most underpowered console ever and had mandatory motion and waggle controls that 3rd parties wanted nothing to do with. It also had a laughably pathetic online system.

Wiiu - Yet another severely underpowered console with a gimmick controller.

On the software side of things they haven't created a single new quality core IP since the early 90s.

Over 15 years and 4 consoles later and Nintendo still hasn't learned why core gamers and 3rd parties want nothing to do with them.

Newhopes

TC speaks the truth.

And who has made the most money from Console/games little tip it's not Sony.

Yes Nintendo has been behind the rest of the industry since 1996.

N64 they include Analog stick and Rumble - Their competitors follow with analog and rumble
Wii they include motion controllers - Their competitors follow with Sixaxis, Move, and Kinect
Wii U they include a touch screen - Their competitors put a touch pad in the controller.

I know Nintendo didn't invent everything or were the first to introduce it but they did popularize it on consoles. I also just interpreted your thread title as a positive for Nintendo. Since they are behind the ideas that their competitors use.

Yes Nintendo has been behind the rest of the industry since 1996.

N64 they include Analog stick and Rumble - Their competitors follow with analog and rumble
Wii they include motion controllers - Their competitors follow with Sixaxis, Move, and Kinect
Wii U they include a touch screen - Their competitors put a touch pad in the controller.

I know Nintendo didn't invent everything or were the first to introduce it but they did popularize it on consoles. I also just interpreted your thread title as a positive for Nintendo. Since they are behind the ideas that their competitors use.

Nintendo_Ownes7

Me: Sorry, I had to :P, but anyway, we also can't forget N64 popularized built in four player local multiplayer support. Something Nintendo continued with the GameCube and SEGA and Microsoft also implemented with Dreamcast and XBOX. Sony skipped that with PS2 and used multitaps instead (which were only acceptable with the PS1).

Yes Nintendo has been behind the rest of the industry since 1996.

N64 they include Analog stick and Rumble - Their competitors follow with analog and rumble
Wii they include motion controllers - Their competitors follow with Sixaxis, Move, and Kinect
Wii U they include a touch screen - Their competitors put a touch pad in the controller.

I know Nintendo didn't invent everything or were the first to introduce it but they did popularize it on consoles. I also just interpreted your thread title as a positive for Nintendo. Since they are behind the ideas that their competitors use.

Nintendo_Ownes7

I am also glad you mention Nintendo did NOT do it first.

[QUOTE="Nintendo_Ownes7"]

Yes Nintendo has been behind the rest of the industry since 1996.

N64 they include Analog stick and Rumble - Their competitors follow with analog and rumble
Wii they include motion controllers - Their competitors follow with Sixaxis, Move, and Kinect
Wii U they include a touch screen - Their competitors put a touch pad in the controller.

I know Nintendo didn't invent everything or were the first to introduce it but they did popularize it on consoles. I also just interpreted your thread title as a positive for Nintendo. Since they are behind the ideas that their competitors use.

no-scope-AK47

I am also glad you mention Nintendo did NOT do it first.

I did use some facts that Nintendo did popularize them on consoles but they weren't the first to use them.

Your intelligence has been behind the rest of humanity since 1996.

[QUOTE="Newhopes"]

[QUOTE="Gue1"]

 

TC speaks the truth.

no-scope-AK47

And who has made the most money from Console/games little tip it's not Sony.

Tip number 2 Sony lost all the money they made with the PS1/2 with the PS3, Nintendo has made roughly $20 billion since 1996.

[QUOTE="no-scope-AK47"]

[QUOTE="Newhopes"]

 

And who has made the most money from Console/games little tip it's not Sony.

Newhopes

Tip number 2 Sony lost all the money they made with the PS1/2 with the PS3, Nintendo has made roughly $20 billion since 1996.

[QUOTE="Newhopes"]

[QUOTE="no-scope-AK47"] Really the ps1 sold over 100 million and the ps2 sold over 150 million. The ps3 sold over 77 million so far. The console side of Sony has made a ton of money. Over a billion games (closing in on 2 billion) have been sold on playstation platform.  

no-scope-AK47

Tip number 2 Sony lost all the money they made with the PS1/2 with the PS3, Nintendo has made roughly $20 billion since 1996.

The PS1/2 didn't make anywhere near the money many people think.

[QUOTE="kenakuma"]

[QUOTE="locopatho"]N64 decision to go for carts was the right call for games, tho the wrong one for losing devs. PS1 games are unplayable for me with their endless loadingnintendoboy16

Still it could be argued that anything that hurts developers also hurts gamers...

That is a resounding "no" right there.

Still that can be also argued as an adverse effect to gamers. Lost $$$ from used games sales means smaller budget for new game releases and could make developers look to other places to cover the loss (online pass/dlc/ect).

[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"]

[QUOTE="kenakuma"]

Still it could be argued that anything that hurts developers also hurts gamers...

kenakuma

That is a resounding "no" right there.

Still that can be also argued as an adverse effect to gamers. Lost $$$ from used games sales means smaller budget for new game releases and could make developers look to other places to cover the loss (online pass/dlc/ect).

Well paying their employees to develop games is a cost too, maybe they should be allowed have slaves? :Plocopatho

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[QUOTE="locopatho"] Well paying their employees to develop games is a cost too, maybe they should be allowed have slaves? :Pkenakuma

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[QUOTE="kenakuma"]

[QUOTE="locopatho"] Well paying their employees to develop games is a cost too, maybe they should be allowed have slaves? :Plocopatho

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Never said anything in contra to the first part of your statement.

When it comes to the second hand market, the difference between the game game industry and any other industries with a second hand market is that the game industry through the technology and means they develop products actually has potential to regulate their used market. Well with the exception of the music industry which has gone almost completely digital in revenue and thus basically eliminated a used market on that front.

"Hasn't created any new IPs" ...bitch please.

Promptly jump in the nearest fire, please.

N64 - They stuck with cartridges and lost every bit of 3rd party support.

Gamecube - They used small discs and missed out on most 3rd party games yet again.

Wii - It was the most underpowered console ever and had mandatory motion and waggle controls that 3rd parties wanted nothing to do with. It also had a laughably pathetic online system.

Wiiu - Yet another severely underpowered console with a gimmick controller.

On the software side of things they haven't created a single new quality core IP since the early 90s.

Over 15 years and 4 consoles later and Nintendo still hasn't learned why core gamers and 3rd parties want nothing to do with them.

NathanDrakeSwag

Nintendo is a joke of a company at this point. Im enjoying watching them go down in flames after enduring one poor business decision from them after another, of which the OP has listed accurately. I used to be a real hardcore fan of Nintendo...Whatta (sham)e...

Nintendo is a joke of a company at this point. Im enjoying watching them go down in flames after enduring one poor business decision from them after another, of which the OP has listed accurately. I used to be a real hardcore fan of Nintendo...Whatta (sham)e...

Rawtheory333