Nintendo has done the impossible

If your a gamer at heart, you'll have big respect for the big N. These so called "gamers" claim Nintendo is ruining gaming. Just because Nintendo doesn't make shooters 90% of the time, or you can't post your score on a pointless online scoreboard, or the fact that Nintendo appeals to non-gamers, does not mean Nintendo is ruining gaming.

The fact that Nintendo is appealing to non-gamers who want a gaming system, like the Wii, is a first for the gaming industry. Not only that, but something truly amazed me. My Mother was not into games at all, most Mothers aren't, but something astonishing happened that I thought would never happen for a million years. My mom wanted a Wii Fit so bad, she called EB games everyday to see if they had one. I would never have thought that someone like my mom would ever call a game store for something that she wanted.

Also at work, I have a boss who is female and today at lunch, right in front of me, she was calling EB games to see if they had a Wii Fit. Apparently she wanted to get one for a while, but could never find it. EB games was busy, so she called about 9 times until she got through, only to get the message that they did get a bunch of Wii Fit's the day before, but sold out in 2 hours. She was not happy.

My point is, Nintendo has gotten people who never even touched a videogame before, really interested in videogames. This is a huge plus for gaming. Not only are more people interested, but they really, really want the game they are looking for.

If you've been gaming for most of your life, since the Atari age, you know that what Nintendo has accomplished is something that Sony or MS could only dream of.

Oh, and for you so called "hardcore" gamers, a real hardcore game is when you physically feel pain after playing it, and I'm not talking about your best buddy punching you in the face for team killing him.

Nintendo fanboys make threads like these just as much as Wii haters make threads about Nintendo ruining the industry. Ragnarok1051

I'm not even a Nintendo fanboy. I don't play the Wii very often, but it's done a very positive thing to the gaming industry.

SONY has ben doing this for generations. :? The fact that they have the highest selling console of all time is more than enough evidence that they roped in a lot of new gamers. And my mom doesnt like gaming eaither, but she'll jump on some Crash Bandicoot if you put it in front of her. ;)TheGrat1

Question: Did your mom call EB games (or which ever store back then) everyday to get Crash Bandicoot? That's my point. I was totally shocked when my mom called EB games everyday to get try and get a Wii fit.

Good on Nintendo for finding a new market But here's my main problem with them: Think about how much content a Metal Gear Solid game could have on the PS2 Then think about the amount of content a Metal Gear Solid game could have on a PS3 Big difference Then think about the amount of content a Zelda game could have on a Gamecube And the amount of content it could have on a Wii Small differencecoakroach

By content, do you mean hours and hours of cut scenes?

[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]Nintendo fanboys make threads like these just as much as Wii haters make threads about Nintendo ruining the industry. dream431ca

I'm not even a Nintendo fanboy. I don't play the Wii very often, but it's done a very positive thing to the gaming industry.

My problem with Nintendo is not with Nintendo at all, it is with all these old pharts who think they are "gamers" because they played Wii Fit. It has a few minigames on, whoopdy freaking doo! I demand more from my games. Wii Sports is a fun game... for about an hour, then the serious lack of depth kinda wears thin. Ok, here is my qualm with Nintendo, and yet again, it isn't really Nintendo's fault: most of the games aren't all that great. A lot of games are shovelware or worse. Yea, there are some gems, but they are few and far between. If most of these publishers gave a crap, maybe it wouldn't be such a wasteland. I find it really sad to see more crappy licensed games for the Wii compared to the handhelds. Nintendo, put these publishers in place and you will get a customer in me.

Also, when these old pharts and little kids decide they are bored with Wii Play, Wii Fit, Wii Music (which isn't a freaking game), etc., what will they play? They will want a game that has depth to really see what all the hub-bub is about. They will pick up a xbox 360 or PS3 and play it, seeing what they have been missing. I got a funny feeling that this is going to be a gateway drug style console. Its kind of a one time thing if you ask me. Just a little look into the future.

[QUOTE="TheGrat1"]SONY has ben doing this for generations. :? The fact that they have the highest selling console of all time is more than enough evidence that they roped in a lot of new gamers. And my mom doesnt like gaming eaither, but she'll jump on some Crash Bandicoot if you put it in front of her. ;)dream431ca

Question: Did your mom call EB games (or which ever store back then) everyday to get Crash Bandicoot? That's my point. I was totally shocked when my mom called EB games everyday to get try and get a Wii fit.

What they've done for the industry is completely fantastic. But I can't help but feel a little left in the dust, regarding my Wii, for the time being atleast. If the Wii starts getting the shear amount of quality and quantity that the DS has, then I'll be happy.ShaneBeck

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[QUOTE="TheGrat1"]SONY has ben doing this for generations. :? The fact that they have the highest selling console of all time is more than enough evidence that they roped in a lot of new gamers. And my mom doesnt like gaming eaither, but she'll jump on some Crash Bandicoot if you put it in front of her. ;)TheGrat1

Question: Did your mom call EB games (or which ever store back then) everyday to get Crash Bandicoot? That's my point. I was totally shocked when my mom called EB games everyday to get try and get a Wii fit.

Yes Wii Fit is a game. You can do so much more than just exercise, if you really call that exercise.

I applaud you TC

You are right, but unfortunatly this is SW, meaning that posters who actually put some thought before typing are vastly outnumbered by waves of trolls and ignorants that mash their heads in their keyboards in some childish attempt to win a "my toy is better then yours" contest with headache inducing posts.

Trying to be reasonable here can be downright frustrating when most rather hang out in the "Grafix King" threads

My problem with Nintendo is not with Nintendo at all, it is with all these old pharts who think they are "gamers" because they played Wii Fit. It has a few minigames on, whoopdy freaking doo! I demand more from my games. Wii Sports is a fun game... for about an hour, then the serious lack of depth kinda wears thin. Ok, here is my qualm with Nintendo, and yet again, it isn't really Nintendo's fault: most of the games aren't all that great. A lot of games are shovelware or worse. Yea, there are some gems, but they are few and far between. If most of these publishers gave a crap, maybe it wouldn't be such a wasteland. I find it really sad to see more crappy licensed games for the Wii compared to the handhelds. Nintendo, put these publishers in place and you will get a customer in me.

Also, when these old pharts and little kids decide they are bored with Wii Play, Wii Fit, Wii Music (which isn't a freaking game), etc., what will they play? They will want a game that has depth to really see what all the hub-bub is about. They will pick up a xbox 360 or PS3 and play it, seeing what they have been missing. I got a funny feeling that this is going to be a gateway drug style console. Its kind of a one time thing if you ask me. Just a little look into the future.

[QUOTE="dream431ca"]

[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]Nintendo fanboys make threads like these just as much as Wii haters make threads about Nintendo ruining the industry. Ragnarok1051

I'm not even a Nintendo fanboy. I don't play the Wii very often, but it's done a very positive thing to the gaming industry.

i hope not ! that can destroy free radical or factor 5 ......... oh wait the HD consoles already did !:shock:

The more casuals Nintendo pulls in means more hardcores left out in the cold. Why? Casuals, at least the ones Nintendo appeals to, are people willing to drop $90 on a balance board in hopes to shed a few pounds. They aren't the people to demand or even acknowledge the continuity of previous or new IPs. They don't care or have any knowledge of gaming in its current state..if devs start using Nintendo as an example you might as well say goodbye to the games you love now and welcome to the waves of shovelware and overpriced gimmicks that would be sure to follow...PS2_ROCKS

stop acting as if the group known as "casuals" is something new. They are the biggest demographic gaming has. you really think the hardcore alone kept it afloat all these years? Games like kareroke revolution, the eyetoy, the power glove, all gimmicks used to attract people. did it end gaming? did it end the games you play on the 360 and ps3? did it stop devs from producing more quality titles on 360 and ps3 rather than wii?

[QUOTE="ShaneBeck"]What they've done for the industry is completely fantastic. But I can't help but feel a little left in the dust, regarding my Wii, for the time being atleast. If the Wii starts getting the shear amount of quality and quantity that the DS has, then I'll be happy.Cherokee_Jack

[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"][QUOTE="dream431ca"]

I'm not even a Nintendo fanboy. I don't play the Wii very often, but it's done a very positive thing to the gaming industry.

habkeinbock

i hope not ! that can destroy free radical or factor 5 ......... oh wait the HD consoles already did !:shock:

No, them making crappy games destroyed them. But youre right, if they had made those same crappy games on wii, they would have made just enough money to turn a profit and make more crappy games. :roll:

I don't respect Nintendo because they nerfed Falcon to crap in Brawl. That is all.siLVURcross

but nerf things can be good:cry:

No, them making crappy games destroyed them. But youre right, if they had made those same crappy games on wii, they would have made just enough money to turn a profit and make more crappy games. :roll:

TheGrat1

Yes cuz thats what those companies were known to do, crappy games >__>

One flop and you're dead, seems fair amirite?

Oh why do i even bother...

Yes cuz thats what those companies were known to do, crappy games >__>

One flop and you're dead, seems fair amirite?

Oh why do i even bother...

[QUOTE="TheGrat1"] Economic Darwiism my friend, this is the real world where you dont get a restart butto if you screw up.Grinning_Demon

Your mother bought Wii Fit to get fit, not to have fun or because it's a game. I've met plenty of gamer mothers before. Try getting your mother to play Metroid Prime Corruption, it wont happen.Dahaka-UK

[QUOTE="Dahaka-UK"]Your mother bought Wii Fit to get fit, not to have fun or because it's a game. I've met plenty of gamer mothers before. Try getting your mother to play Metroid Prime Corruption, it wont happen.Grinning_Demon

He choose one of nintendo's regular games and compared it to another nintendo game. It's perfectly reasonable.

He choose one of nintendo's regular games and compared it to another nintendo game. It's perfectly reasonable.

Espada12

No, its not. Its picking a game he knows a begginer will have trouble enjoying to prove a point.

And if i recall, Wii Sports is also a Nintendo GAME.

[QUOTE="Espada12"]He choose one of nintendo's regular games and compared it to another nintendo game. It's perfectly reasonable.

Grinning_Demon

No, its not. Its picking a game he knows a begginer will have trouble enjoying to prove a point.

And if i recall, Wii Sports is also a Nintendo GAME.

[QUOTE="Dahaka-UK"]Your mother bought Wii Fit to get fit, not to have fun or because it's a game. I've met plenty of gamer mothers before. Try getting your mother to play Metroid Prime Corruption, it wont happen.Grinning_Demon

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[QUOTE="TheGrat1"]

Question: Did your mom call EB games (or which ever store back then) everyday to get Crash Bandicoot? That's my point. I was totally shocked when my mom called EB games everyday to get try and get a Wii fit.

TheGrat1

Yes Wii Fit is a game. You can do so much more than just exercise, if you really call that exercise.

[QUOTE="Grinning_Demon"][QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"] He proved his point, and you're just picking Wii Sports to prove yours. Why are you different?Ragnarok1051

And you think all 140million + people who bought/own ps2's bought those for the 'hardcore'? Or how many of them bought it because it was a DVD player?dotWithShoes

The moms who buy wii fit probably just want wii fit and will not get into gaming. However, countless kids/teenagers/young adults who never owned a system before will start playing games, and start buying good games. After buying a wii, my girlfriend loves playing mario kart and super paper mario. She is just starting to get into super mario galaxy. I have another friend who is not a gamer by any means. After buying a wii, she plays twilight princess.

You guys need to give people more credit. You act like casual gamers are ridiculously stupid and will buy anything thrown in their faces. Most casual gamers are smart enough to look into a new game at least a little before spending 40-50 bucks on it. Most casual gamers are able to look up reviews and videos and such before aking a 40-50 dollar purchase. Most first time gamers with wii's that I know end up buying some casual games like guitar hero, rockband, wii fit, etc., but also end up buying games like paper mario, mario galaxy, mario kart, and twilight princess. A lot of kid/teen/young adult non gamers have heard of mario, zelda, halo, GTA, etc. If I'm not mistaken, most of the shovelware on wii does not sell particularly well. Wii fit does well because a lot of moms/girlfriends buy it, and a lot of other people want to get it for the balance board. Wii play does well because it comes with a remote. Wii sports comes with the console, so every wii owner has it. If you look at the sales of wii games that don't come with a console/accessory, you won't see a lot of the wii's shovelware (with the exception of wii music, but I'm not calling it shovelware because I've never played it).

I believe the usual idea behind these sayings is that when someone gets into gaming then they will become a hardcore gamer.Ragnarok1051

1- Hardcore gamer is a myth specialy what people call HC gamers now.

2- You cant compare a kid to an adult. Kids learn new interfaces alot faster then adults, and have alot more time and attention to dedicate to these "new things". When a women in her late 30s, 40s tries games for the first time she wont be breezing her way through a game like Corruption two months later.

Its a slower process, 1- Wii Sports/Wii Fit , 2-bridge titles like Mario Kart Wii, 3- Super Mario Galaxy and so on. Even if they dont get past stage 2 it created a habit in that houseold, a habit that will be carried to others, kids, teens, husband etc...

The first thing you learn in marketing is that the women is the most important and influential member of a house.

Isn't that what most Nintendo fanboys say about the new audience that Nintendo is marketing to? Ragnarok1051

[QUOTE="dotWithShoes"] And you think all 140million + people who bought/own ps2's bought those for the 'hardcore'? Or how many of them bought it because it was a DVD player?LOXO7

[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"] I believe the usual idea behind these sayings is that when someone gets into gaming then they will become a hardcore gamer.Grinning_Demon

Isn't that what most Nintendo fanboys say about the new audience that Nintendo is marketing to? Ragnarok1051

That in itself is a Myth. We all hoped and assumed this would happen. The wii is still making these so called "casual" games. Which lack.. addicting qualitys to them. So in turn bridge games do not work.

Trying, but not succeeding.

no, i do't think that is is that imipossible for something like that to happen. nintendo has gone casual. iam2green