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#2 Silverbond
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Nintendo doesn't have outrageous prices for accessories and doesn't charge for online multiplayer.

Nintendo also does not have a $250 handheld.

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Nintendo offered their console with motion control for a reasonable price and packaged a game with it. The other consoles were much more expensive and didn't offer packaged games right away.

All have expensive peripherals.

All companies are greedy and want your money, equally.

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But they took the risk, and it paid off for them. Initially I guess we were paying for development costs, the price wasn't so bad. I can see why people would complain now, but it does comes bundled with Wii Sports AND Resort (great game) and Motion+.
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#5 Chris_Williams
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this isn't going to end well, nope not at all

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#6 Mario1331
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But they took the risk, and it paid off for them. Initially I guess we were paying for development costs, the price wasn't so bad. I can see why people would complain now, but it does comes bundled with Wii Sports AND Resort (great game) and Motion+. SaltyMeatballs

i still dont see why people would complain now. its 200 with two free games M+ wifi out the box and other features thats a really good deal

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#7 SapSacPrime
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I would say they have the best business model, yuo do realise the other two don't sell at a loss out of the goodness of their hearts? they are determined to make that loss back and then some out of your pocket.

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#8 AmayaPapaya
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They should be because unlike Microsoft, and Sony, Nintendo can't afford to take a loss.

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#9 dontshackzmii
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wii is the best built system. it looks great and rarly breaks down. it is packed with features as well. wi fi blu tooth sd card reader built in flash and so on .

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#10 SakusEnvoy
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Nintendo doesn't have outrageous prices for accessories and doesn't charge for online multiplayer.

Nintendo also does not have a $250 handheld.

Silverbond

Hardware-wise (ignoring software!), there is simply no comparison between the DSi XL and the PSP Go. Which piece of hardware is sold more at profit? I guarantee it almost certainly is the DSi XL.

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#11 Sp4rtan_3
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Hmmm lets see Sony and Nintendo both have had built in wifi since 2005 yet M$ for all that time charged people 100 bucks to by a rip-off router :? They also charge you to play games online when the 2 competitors have free service. And now M$ is selling a Laggy gimmick that is only appealing to casual and moms for 150 bucks :roll: but yet NINTENDO is greedy :lol:
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599 US DOLLARS.

Guess who I picked.

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#13 Nintendo_Ownes7
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They should be because unlike Microsoft, and Sony, Nintendo can't afford to take a loss.

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This Microsoft and Sony can keep syphoning money from other sources for as long as they are doing good in their other ventures. If they are doing terrible in those ventures Microsoft and Sony will just close the division that is doing the worst.

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#14 SakusEnvoy
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I would say they have the best business model, yuo do realise the other two don't sell at a loss out of the goodness of their hearts? they are determined to make that loss back and then some out of your pocket.

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If everyone followed Nintendo's business model, we'd be stuck with Wii-level graphics across the board. How could that possibly be a good thing for consumers?

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the games don't look as good as xbox 1 gamesJONO51
No, really?
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this isn't going to end well, nope not at all

Chris_Williams
i was gonna say the same thing :lol:
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#17 LessThanMike
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Ha, no way, i'd say sony is the most greedy of the trio
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#18 SakusEnvoy
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599 US DOLLARS.

Guess who I picked.

Mahrio

Each of those PS3s was sold at a $240 dollar loss. Each Wii was sold for a small profit... Even if the PS3 cost $800 at launch, Sony still would have been losing money. So how is that somehow greedier than Nintendo?

Sony is the least "greedy" company by far.

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#19 Vault_Monkey
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[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"]But they took the risk, and it paid off for them. Initially I guess we were paying for development costs, the price wasn't so bad. I can see why people would complain now, but it does comes bundled with Wii Sports AND Resort (great game) and Motion+. Mario1331

i still dont see why people would complain now. its 200 with two free games M+ wifi out the box and other features thats a really good deal

Agreed, that's really not that bad of a deal.

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#20 NintendoNite
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being greedy and being nonprofitable/profitable are two completely different things. Nintendo is smart. They always keep their prices low and affordable without the sacrifice of fun while MS and sony sell expensive hardware. Nintendo profits not because they are the most greedy, but because they are smart. Sony and MS are greedy and look where they ended up
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#21 205212669269561485377169522720
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No..? For the last few generations it had been Sony with all the multi-tap and Memory Card fiasco. This generation it's friggin Microsoft with all the Wifi adapters, extra HDD, xblive, etc.

However I gotta agree that paying for the Wii Mote & Wii Nunchuck seperately is still kinda stupid + the Wii motion plus lol.

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#22 Ragnarok1051
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Nintendo doesn't have outrageous prices for accessories and doesn't charge for online multiplayer.

Nintendo also does not have a $250 handheld.

Silverbond
They're about to.
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Oh lord. I love people that like to pretend other companies aren't out to make a profit, and as big of a profit as they can. Nintendo sells the Wii for the price it is because they can. People buy it at that price. In fact, a lot of people buy it at that price. It's simple economics. Do you really think M$ and Sony take a hit on consoles so they can be less greedy? They do that so that more people will buy their systems. $599 was a hard enough sale. It's cost vs. reward analysis. Please, for your own good. Don't ever run a company.
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#24 SaltyMeatballs
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[QUOTE="Mahrio"]

599 US DOLLARS.

Guess who I picked.

SakusEnvoy

Each of those PS3s was sold at a $240 dollar loss. Each Wii was sold for a small profit... Even if the PS3 cost $800 at launch, Sony still would have been losing money. So how is that somehow greedier than Nintendo?

Sony is the least "greedy" company by far.

Lmao, it was that expensive because they wanted to GREEDILY push blu-ray, and they knew any higher price would jeopardise any chance of success, so they had to sell at a loss initially. Now they are making profit, why don't they continue to sell at a loss, if they are not greedy? The fact that they sold at a loss at launch does not make them not greedy. Now they push 3D to help push their 3D TV's, much like PS3 helped push blu-ray (and not the other way around). Don't kid yourself. Now they are trying to copy Nintendo's motion control success. Greedy is a harsh word though, all the companies are in it to make profit. But don't act as if any one company does not want to maximise profit.
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#25 tagyhag
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[QUOTE="Mahrio"]

599 US DOLLARS.

Guess who I picked.

SakusEnvoy

Each of those PS3s was sold at a $240 dollar loss. Each Wii was sold for a small profit... Even if the PS3 cost $800 at launch, Sony still would have been losing money. So how is that somehow greedier than Nintendo?

Sony is the least "greedy" company by far.

It had been a standard to sell a console at a loss and make up the money via software. I assume that neither Microsoft nor Sony believed that the Wii was going to take off as much as it did. Or do you believe they took the loss just for you? Their dear consumer. :P
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................................ You guys are ridiculous.. They are all greedy, there is no varience in this inless you are talking about worker rights, and how they treat their employees.. If they could put a plastic handel in the store for $100 and get it to sell, they would all be doing it.. Its called the model.. Nintendo is SMART, they were able to develope something that cost less then the other competitors and make more profit from it then the others.. Thats business genious not greed.. Because greed is exactly what business is all about, to make profit. Nintendo wouldn't be doing this if it weren't for customers out there willing to pay for it.

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being greedy and being nonprofitable/profitable are two completely different things. Nintendo is smart. They always keep their prices low and affordable without the sacrifice of fun while MS and sony sell expensive hardware. Nintendo profits not because they are the most greedy, but because they are smart. Sony and MS are greedy and look where they ended upNintendoNite

So Nintendo is smart for selling low-cost things at a profit, but Sony and MS are greedy for selling expensive things at a loss?

Greedy, as defined by dictionary dot com, is the following: 1) excessively or inordinately desirous of wealth, profit, etc.; avaricious: the greedy owners of the company.

The question here, is not whether the Wii or DS are good deals, but which company best fits that description.

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#28 Meinhard1
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Sony didn't sell the PS3 at a loss out of the goodness of their hearts...
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ms have tried to recoup all the xbox 1/rrod losses with expensive accessories and xbl and still haven't made back the cash.JONO51

Microsoft only started solving the RRoD problem after they had spent months trying to deny it along with the disc scratching problem up to a point where denying the problems just wasn't an option anymore, and would've cost even more than addressing them. You might find Nintendo's hardware last gen (whichwouldbewrong), but at least it's reliable, and I think that alone shows of more respect towards the customer than Microsoft trying to sell people $300 trash bins.

As for the rest of your point: no, go away.

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#30 SaltyMeatballs
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[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

Nintendo doesn't have outrageous prices for accessories and doesn't charge for online multiplayer.

Nintendo also does not have a $250 handheld.

Ragnarok1051
They're about to.

That's not confirmed. And even if they do? More powerful, 3D with no glasses, 3D camera. Great package overall. It's quite laughable that the PSPGo remains at $250, considering it's a downgrade and does less.
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#31 NintendoNite
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So Nintendo is smart for selling low-cost things at a profit, but Sony and MS are greedy for selling expensive things at a loss?

Greedy, as defined by dictionary dot com, is the following: 1) excessively or inordinately desirous of wealth, profit, etc.; avaricious: the greedy owners of the company.

The question here, is not whether the Wii or DS are good deals, but which company best fits that description.

SakusEnvoy

in that case, they all fit the description. They are ALL DESIROUS of wealth and profit but does that mean they will get it? no. If a poor man wants money, he is greedy. His societal status doesnt matter. If someone wants money excessively, they are greedy. It doesnt matter if Sony or MS are losing money. They are still greedy and hungry for money. but is nintendo the MOST greedy? no. If they were, they would have never sold cheap affordable hardware. Sony on the other hand did and which is why they are losing money. They are losing money because they were blinded by greed and and arrogance and believed anyone would buy their consoles at such an insane price

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#32 SakusEnvoy
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[QUOTE="SakusEnvoy"]

[QUOTE="Mahrio"]

599 US DOLLARS.

Guess who I picked.

tagyhag

Each of those PS3s was sold at a $240 dollar loss. Each Wii was sold for a small profit... Even if the PS3 cost $800 at launch, Sony still would have been losing money. So how is that somehow greedier than Nintendo?

Sony is the least "greedy" company by far.

It had been a standard to sell a console at a loss and make up the money via software. I assume that neither Microsoft nor Sony believed that the Wii was going to take off as much as it did. Or do you believe they took the loss just for you? Their dear consumer. :P

Obviously the profit-motive is the central theme of all businesses -- and thus each business does have the accumulation of wealth as their central goal. However, wasn't this thread seeking to identify which company is the most greedy, not which company lacks greed as a motivational factor? Nintendo goods are the only ones of the Big Three which are "overpriced" (ie. sold at a massive profit), which one could argue is an indication of excessive corporate greed.

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#33 Desulated
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All three are greedy.

But personally I think MS is the most greedy because they charge you for almost every feature.

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[QUOTE="tagyhag"] It had been a standard to sell a console at a loss and make up the money via software. I assume that neither Microsoft nor Sony believed that the Wii was going to take off as much as it did. Or do you believe they took the loss just for you? Their dear consumer. :PSakusEnvoy

Obviously the profit-motive is the central theme of all businesses -- and thus each business does have the accumulation of wealth as their central goal. However, wasn't this thread seeking to identify which company is the most greedy, not which company lacks greed as a motivational factor? Nintendo goods are the only ones of the Big Three which are "overpriced" (ie. sold at a massive profit), which one could argue is an indication of excessive corporate greed.

Ahhh but it falls to the consumerto determine if something is overpriced or not. Not the amount of profit that it makes.

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#35 deactivated-5e9044657a310
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the hardware is last gen. the games don't look as good as xbox 1 games, some only as good as ps2 games. Its clearly cheap hardware and they're making a killing off of it at gamers' expense. I mean, look at sony, they sold their console at a loss. ms have tried to recoup all the xbox 1/rrod losses with expensive accessories and xbl and still haven't made back the cash. Therefore, they are the most greedy.

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Oh man!! you are SOO right. I'm burning my Wii RIGHT NOW
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#36 Bigboi500
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*looks at poll* The people have spoken! Micro$oft is the most greedy easily.

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#37 nethernova
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$100 for WIFi and paying for P2P gaming say otherwise.
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[QUOTE="SakusEnvoy"]

[QUOTE="tagyhag"] It had been a standard to sell a console at a loss and make up the money via software. I assume that neither Microsoft nor Sony believed that the Wii was going to take off as much as it did. Or do you believe they took the loss just for you? Their dear consumer. :Ptagyhag

Obviously the profit-motive is the central theme of all businesses -- and thus each business does have the accumulation of wealth as their central goal. However, wasn't this thread seeking to identify which company is the most greedy, not which company lacks greed as a motivational factor? Nintendo goods are the only ones of the Big Three which are "overpriced" (ie. sold at a massive profit), which one could argue is an indication of excessive corporate greed.

Ahhh but it falls to the consumerto determine if something is overpriced or not. Not the amount of profit that it makes.

But how else can you determine corporate greed but for the excessive accumulation of profits at the consumer's expense (that is to say, taking advantage of his desire for your product)?

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#39 surrealnumber5
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ms has pay for play and sony makes their products pricey for no reason. the ps3 did not need a cell processor or bluray, but it has them because sony wanted to push those components for reasons outside of gaming. that is just poor design and decision making
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[QUOTE="tagyhag"]

[QUOTE="SakusEnvoy"] Obviously the profit-motive is the central theme of all businesses -- and thus each business does have the accumulation of wealth as their central goal. However, wasn't this thread seeking to identify which company is the most greedy, not which company lacks greed as a motivational factor? Nintendo goods are the only ones of the Big Three which are "overpriced" (ie. sold at a massive profit), which one could argue is an indication of excessive corporate greed.

SakusEnvoy

Ahhh but it falls to the consumerto determine if something is overpriced or not. Not the amount of profit that it makes.

But how else can you determine corporate greed but for the excessive accumulation of profits at the consumer's expense (that is to say, taking advantage of his desire for your product)?

uuh by how much they actually price their products? Like i said before, you cant measure greed by how much money someone makes.

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[QUOTE="tagyhag"]

[QUOTE="SakusEnvoy"] Obviously the profit-motive is the central theme of all businesses -- and thus each business does have the accumulation of wealth as their central goal. However, wasn't this thread seeking to identify which company is the most greedy, not which company lacks greed as a motivational factor? Nintendo goods are the only ones of the Big Three which are "overpriced" (ie. sold at a massive profit), which one could argue is an indication of excessive corporate greed.

SakusEnvoy

Ahhh but it falls to the consumerto determine if something is overpriced or not. Not the amount of profit that it makes.

But how else can you determine corporate greed but for the excessive accumulation of profits at the consumer's expense (that is to say, taking advantage of his desire for your product)?

Simple (Though as all judgmental arguments it falls in the subjective area) does the company exhibit any signs of reprehensible acquisitiveness?

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#42 NintendoNite
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Also, i remember back when i read a gamespot article which said that Iwata barely earns any money compared to other people in the industry. If Nintendo were greedy, hed be making so much more money

here it is

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6267531.html

Booya.

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#43 i5750at4Ghz
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Nintendo is a greedy company in general. Since back in the 80's. Nintendo makes MS look like angels as far as greed goes.
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#44 deactivated-5b78379493e12
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Nintendo is a greedy company in general. Since back in the 80's. Nintendo makes MS look like angels as far as greed goes.i5750at4Ghz

Why do you think that?

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#45 princeofshapeir
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They're corporations. They're all greedy.
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[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"]Nintendo is a greedy company in general. Since back in the 80's. Nintendo makes MS look like angels as far as greed goes.jimkabrhel

Why do you think that?

There past and present actions as a company. Killing off 3rd party devs that didn't do exactly what they wanted. Over charging for carts. Ignoring system faults until the courts moved in on them. Re-branding every single hand-held they have ever made. charging a premium price for 10 year old technology. Trying to back stab Sony over cd-rom rights they willingly left on the table.

Nintendo comes off as the family friendly company, but a little research into there past and you will see how dirty they really are. If not for the sega genesis, they were just going to rebrand the NES and keep selling it for years.

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#47 LegatoSkyheart
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I'm sorry but doesn't Microsoft charge for Office, Give you useless Trails with Operating Systems and Trails of Stuff that you Need and not the actual Program and Charge for Online Gaming?

in anycase all companies just want your Money.

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#48 LegatoSkyheart
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Nintendo is a greedy company in general. Since back in the 80's. Nintendo makes MS look like angels as far as greed goes.i5750at4Ghz

Dude M$ is just as greedy than Nintendo.

OSs costing at least $100+, 3-4 different types of the same OS all containing the same OS, Trails on the OS that make you think you have everything but you don't cause it's only a 30 day trail, Pay to Play Online....

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#49 hexashadow13
Member since 2010 • 5157 Posts
All companies are equally greedy. The greedier they are the better. That's called capitalism. Just some companies are better at it then others.
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#50 i5750at4Ghz
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[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"]Nintendo is a greedy company in general. Since back in the 80's. Nintendo makes MS look like angels as far as greed goes.LegatoSkyheart

Dude M$ is just as greedy than Nintendo.

OSs costing at least $100+, 3-4 different types of the same OS all containing the same OS, Trails on the OS that make you think you have everything but you don't cause it's only a 30 day trail, Pay to Play Online....

How is $100+ alot of money for a OS? You do understand that there are billions of lines of code in a modern day OS. Vista alone cost them 6 billion to develop. And another 2 billion for the service packs which they release for free. MS is greedy no doubt, but mostly when dealing with other companies not the consumer. I don't own a 360 or live so I can't speak on its worth, but most people don't seem to have any issue with it. And how is offering multiple versions of a piece of software greedy?