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#51 hopesfall2own
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Why make a game for a niche crowd when you can appeal to the masses?foxhound_fox
Sarcasm I hope.
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#52 freek666
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http://monstervine.com/exclusive-the-next-zelda-what-we-know-so-far/

Here's some information about the new Zelda game, I'll take out the highlight from the article.

"New Zelda could go casual"

Thanks again for killing yet another of my favorite series, Nintendo.

LittleHands134

For a good minute I sat here looking at your sig, convinced it was relevant to the topic. I was thinking "what the hell does this dog have to do with it?" and was looking for all sorts of answers. Then I realised, just a sig. :P

Anyway, I doubt they would butcher it completely. If it's any easier than TP than that sucks. Come on, I want at least 50 hours of play!

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#53 gunswordfist
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[QUOTE="LittleHands134"]

http://monstervine.com/exclusive-the-next-zelda-what-we-know-so-far/

Here's some information about the new Zelda game, I'll take out the highlight from the article.

"New Zelda could go casual"

Thanks again for killing yet another of my favorite series, Nintendo.

They killed Zelda the second Wii came out. HowTF is watering down your best series a good thing, Nintendo?
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#54 DaSorcerer77
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People who dislike nintendo will grasp at anything i guess. Even pure speculation
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#55 Shinobishyguy
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[QUOTE="gunswordfist"][QUOTE="LittleHands134"]

http://monstervine.com/exclusive-the-next-zelda-what-we-know-so-far/

Here's some information about the new Zelda game, I'll take out the highlight from the article.

"New Zelda could go casual"

Thanks again for killing yet another of my favorite series, Nintendo.

They killed Zelda the second Wii came out. HowTF is watering down your best series a good thing, Nintendo?

in other words you didn't read the article I'll say it again making a series more accessible =/= casualizing
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#57 Zhengi
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Wow, people are getting upset over this? The game, let alone ANY information, hasn't even been released yet. Why don't you people save your crying until at least a preview is done of the game?
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#58 789shadow
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I'd like to thank the TC for pulling out the one bad bit in a stream of great morsels.Here's some things that were also in the article:

-New Zelda will have a better soundtrack

-New Zelda will have its own engine, could use the Wii's full power

-Wii Motion Plus could be used

-New Zelda will have a more story based plot

But of course,the very mention of the word "casual" means an automatic fail.:roll:

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#60 Shinobishyguy
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[QUOTE="789shadow"]

I'd like tothank the TC for pulling out the one bad bit in a stream of great morsels.Here's some things that were also in the article:

-New Zelda will have a better soundtrack

-New Zelda will have its own engine, could use the Wii's full power

-Wii Motion Plus could be used

-New Zelda will have a more story based plot

But of course,the very mention of the word "casual" means an automatic fail.:roll:

haters will cling to anything I suppose
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#61 Zhengi
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Why make a game for a niche crowd when you can appeal to the masses?foxhound_fox
Yeah, cause Zelda games are niche and don't sell to millions of people. :roll:
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#62 Rahnyc4
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They were saying Super Mario Galaxy would be more accessible as well...look how that turned out.TreyoftheDead
turned into a god darn master piece, i agree.
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#63 Vanadium2k8
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Casual as in Phantom Hourglass?Willy105
If so, I'm all for it. People need to really quit dramatizing on something that isn't even official to begin with.
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#64 caryslan2
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Honestly, I think people are overreacting to the "casual"statement and automatically assuming Zelda is going down the path where its will be designed to appeal only to old people and soccer moms. The only casual moves I see happening to the next Zelda are easier boss fights and a Navi-like character offering hints(Which has been in the series since OOT.)

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#65 surrealnumber5
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well they said they know next to nothing but what they do know like who is working on it and when the project was started equates to knowing nothing about the new game...... but if you want to nit pick what they think it might be troll on
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#66 MikeStoleYoBike
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If Jeff never wrote that review, would anyone even be bashing TP as much as they do now? All i ever hear is blahblah voice acting blahblah rehash about the game as if it's their religion to Praise Jeff G. Why is it that TP get's called a rehash while things like halo, cod, gears etc dont? TP evolved the Zelda series just as much as any other series and was a wonderful game for its time. The Zelda franchise remained the same it would still be better than 99% of all games. Although I do always welcome change. The funny part is, most people who bash zelda games for being rehashes are the same people playing the same repetitive online shooters day by day.
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#67 Toriko42
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If true I will never give money to Nintendo again
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#68 farnham
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oh sure like they killed zelda with wind waker right..?

we have these kind of threads like everytime nintendo announces a new zelda.. and yet zelda is the best gaming series ever period and has stayed that way.

If Jeff never wrote that review, would anyone even be bashing TP as much as they do now? All i ever hear is blahblah voice acting blahblah rehash about the game as if it's their religion to Praise Jeff G. Why is it that TP get's called a rehash while things like halo, cod, gears etc dont? TP evolved the Zelda series just as much as any other series and was a wonderful game for its time. The Zelda franchise remained the same it would still be better than 99% of all games. Although I do always welcome change.

The funny part is, most people who bash zelda games for being rehashes are the same people playing the same repetitive online shooters day by day. MikeStoleYoBike

Jeff Gerstmanns review was a complete joke.. he bashed wii hardware on the review of zelda TP.. i mean hello..? its a game review not a hardware review..

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#69 FunkyHeadHunter
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Call me crazy...BUT I thought Zelda was casual from NES to current?
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#70 nintendofreak_2
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This info is coming from a site I've never even heard of and uses youtube videos as sources. Not exactly reliable.
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#71 Silent-Hal
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What's wrong with making the game more accessible exactly? Just look at Prince of Persia, it's an incredibly easy game, but that doesn't stop it from being great. As long as a game is fun, I don't really see why difficulty should be that much of an issue.
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#72 Skittles_McGee
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[QUOTE="LittleHands134"] "Zelda herself might play a larger role, or get her own game like Peach did" Bad idea. Just an awful idea. "Midna may return if the fan support is high enough" Not good at all.

About those two points... 1. How is that bad? Do you even know anything about the series at all? Unlike Peach, Zelda herself is actually quite useful. She's skilled with a bow and can use many kinds of magic (she's been shown using illusion and light magic). Maybe this time around we'll get to use some actual magic and not just magic items? Thats a terrible idea? 2. Midna was a support character that managed to not be annoying, and was an essential part of the game. How is making her a returning character a bad idea?
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#73 farnham
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Why make a game for a niche crowd when you can appeal to the masses?foxhound_fox
zelda.. especially in japan is a struggling franchise.. zelda TP only sold 500k (on a world wide basis.. zelda TP is the most successful zelda game in ages.. it even outsold zelda LttP) N64 The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 7.600.000 March 04 FC The Legend of Zelda 6.510.000 March 04 Mul The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess 5.840.000 March 08 WII + GCN SFC The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past 4.610.000 March 04 stunning no..? anyways.. the more casual zelda Phantom Hourglass sold about 800k in japan alone world wide it did 4 million + which isnt bad by any means.. but still.. i think nintendo is very careful with zelda.. they dont want the franchise to be dead in japan.. yet they dont want to loose their hardcore support in NA and europe for sure
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Wow, people are getting upset over this? The game, let alone ANY information, hasn't even been released yet. Why don't you people save your crying until at least a preview is done of the game?Zhengi

I'd wait for a better source like Gamespot or IGN before I start taking this seriously, I highly doubt some random person on Youtube would be reporting this sort of stuff on the next Zelda game and no one else really picking up on this. Also I love how everything is basically a maybe.

Sountrack likely to be better than Twilight Princess

Might be using the Wii to its full potential

Link might talk

It could be a casual game

The world might end in 2012

Honestly the things people by into these days, plus I love how Nintendo already confirmed that Wii Sports Resort would be the last game geared for the casual market while its core franchises from here on would be more geared towards the hard core fanbase. I doubt we'll hear anything from NINTENDO about this game or any others until E3 2009 if not later on at their own personal event.

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#75 farnham
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This info is coming from a site I've never even heard of and uses youtube videos as sources. Not exactly reliable. nintendofreak_2
you are bringing common sense to a zelda speculation thread.. :lol:
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#76 WilliamRLBaker
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....thats really bad I mean seriously? i want my adult themed story like twilight princess had twilight princess was a lil on the easy side though i mastered in in 2 days but i loved the more adult themed storyline.
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#77 mayforcebeyou
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lzelda tp was super easy to begin with. If it is more casual there will be no challenge
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#78 haziqonfire
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So basically it will be more accessible to casual audiences, like the new Prince of Persia, Gears 2 or COD4/WaW. Good to know.
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#79 nintendofreak_2
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you are bringing common sense to a zelda speculation thread.. :lol: farnham
:( You caught me.
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#80 Phazevariance
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Nintendo will most likely maske it too easy., sop they can asell it to the casual gamers, which are moast of the people who bought the Wii. Yes, hardcore gamers bought the wii also, but the mass of their sales are casual. They want as large of a mass appeal as possible. A better soundtrack will be nice, as will improved graphics. The bad thing is that the wii has been out for 2 years already, asnd TP was a gamecube game. This is taking them a long time to get a proper wii zelda game out the door. Until you look at the bigger picture for nintendo, this may feel like a let down. The bigger picture is that all the casual gamers that bought a wii, will grow and evolve as gamers. Actually, maybe not all of them, but a lot of them. Next gen Nintendo can make their console a little less casual, and evolve the console along with the casual gamers needs. This will help the hardcore gamer maket grow as casuals grow into hardcore gamers. Even if not all of them do the market will grow, and both Sony and Microsoft will benefit from Nintendo's contributions once again. So, yes it sucks that the next Zelda could be easier, or more casual, but chances are it won't stay like that for next gen or the generation after.
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#81 angry_fork
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They were saying Super Mario Galaxy would be more accessible as well...look how that turned out.TreyoftheDead
It was. The first 80 stars were a cakewalk, the last 40 were the only remotely challenging ones in the game.
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#82 67gt500
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[QUOTE="LittleHands134"][QUOTE="TAKE_IT_BACK"]

So it'll be more accessible? Can't see how thats a bad thing.

BTW, this is all rumor.

DaSorcerer77

It'll be a ridiculously easy game that holds your hand throughout the entire thing. Just like every other casual title.

Kinda like prince of persia

You guys catch on quickly.... get used to this treatment, because I suspect that pretty much all of the new games coming down the turnpike will be leaning this way...

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#83 farnham
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Nintendo will most likely maske it too easy., sop they can asell it to the casual gamers, which are moast of the people who bought the Wii. Yes, hardcore gamers bought the wii also, but the mass of their sales are casual. They want as large of a mass appeal as possible. A better soundtrack will be nice, as will improved graphics. The bad thing is that the wii has been out for 2 years already, asnd TP was a gamecube game. This is taking them a long time to get a proper wii zelda game out the door. .Phazevariance
is there a zelda game that was truly hard..? no.. it was always easy to beat.. every one of them is easy.. its just that you can look up in every nook and cranny to find something.. its not like its a hard game like lets say ninja gaiden.. [QUOTE="Phazevariance"]Until you look at the bigger picture for nintendo, this may feel like a let down. The bigger picture is that all the casual gamers that bought a wii, will grow and evolve as gamers. Actually, maybe not all of them, but a lot of them. Next gen Nintendo can make their console a little less casual, and evolve the console along with the casual gamers needs. This will help the hardcore gamer maket grow as casuals grow into hardcore gamers. Even if not all of them do the market will grow, and both Sony and Microsoft will benefit from Nintendo's contributions once again. So, yes it sucks that the next Zelda could be easier, or more casual, but chances are it won't stay like that for next gen or the generation after .

this is the most hilarious thing i ever read.. so the 80 year old grannies and soccer moms and the lil girls that picked up nintendogs will suddenly go out and buy halo.. :lol: dream on
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[QUOTE="TreyoftheDead"]They were saying Super Mario Galaxy would be more accessible as well...look how that turned out.angry_fork
It was. The first 80 stars were a cakewalk, the last 40 were the only remotely challenging ones in the game.

I think he was refering to all the critical sucess it gained.

you know 9.5's, goty awards, all that.

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#85 nintendofreak_2
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Do people not realize that casuals make up the majority of all console sales?
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#86 farnham
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Do people not realize that casuals make up the majority of all console sales? nintendofreak_2
once again.. common sense.. in a zelda speculation thread.. i mean zelda people are making lore out of some friggin timeline connection between the games or something
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#87 naruto7777
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More casual Twilight Princess and Phantom Hourglass was easy enough
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#88 TAKE_IT_BACK
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[QUOTE="TAKE_IT_BACK"]

So it'll be more accessible? Can't see how thats a bad thing.

BTW, this is all rumor.

LittleHands134

It'll be a ridiculously easy game that holds your hand throughout the entire thing. Just like every other casual title.

:lol: Did you see the video they called "Proof"? Maybe you should watch that and get back to me.

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#89 too_much_eslim
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[QUOTE="LittleHands134"][QUOTE="TAKE_IT_BACK"]

So it'll be more accessible? Can't see how thats a bad thing.

BTW, this is all rumor.

It'll be a ridiculously easy game that holds your hand throughout the entire thing. Just like every other casual title.

TP was the easiest Zelda game I ever played. If they decide to make it even easier and get rid all the tough puzzles completely I will never buy a Nintendo console again.
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#90 joesh89
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  • seriously nintendo look more appealing to my grandma then it does to me, i will never buy a wii until they remember us gamers who supported them through tougher times, i mean jesus start making some serious titles again nintendo, i think there not gonna keep getting away with this bargain basement gaming for long, itll even wear thin on these "casual gamers" soon, and im sick of those lame adverts with jamie redknapps family, i dont give a S**T!!! where the hells my zelda and donkey kong and every other platformer im owed.
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#91 Shinobishyguy
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[QUOTE="LittleHands134"][QUOTE="TAKE_IT_BACK"]

So it'll be more accessible? Can't see how thats a bad thing.

BTW, this is all rumor.

too_much_eslim

It'll be a ridiculously easy game that holds your hand throughout the entire thing. Just like every other casual title.

TP was the easiest Zelda game I ever played. If they decide to make it even easier and get rid all the tough puzzles completely I will never buy a Nintendo console again.

We must've not played the same game...because Wind waker was easier than TP. And whats with the notion that a game must be hard to be good? It helps but it's not a requirement.

I've played plenty of good easy games and crap hard games

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#92 too_much_eslim
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I am saying it now. If the next Zelda is a total disappointment in my eyes I will never buy a Nintendo console again. To see teh franchises I love become so casual that I don't even enjoy it anymore is just crazy.
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#93 joesh89
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[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="LittleHands134"] It'll be a ridiculously easy game that holds your hand throughout the entire thing. Just like every other casual title.Shinobishyguy
TP was the easiest Zelda game I ever played. If they decide to make it even easier and get rid all the tough puzzles completely I will never buy a Nintendo console again.

We must've not played the same game...because Wind waker was easier than TP. And whats with the notion that a game must be hard to be good? It helps but it's not a requirement.

I've played plenty of good easy games and crap hard games

i dont agree, wind waker was much more challenging then Twilight princess.

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#94 Shinobishyguy
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[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="too_much_eslim"] TP was the easiest Zelda game I ever played. If they decide to make it even easier and get rid all the tough puzzles completely I will never buy a Nintendo console again. joesh89
We must've not played the same game...because Wind waker was easier than TP. And whats with the notion that a game must be hard to be good? It helps but it's not a requirement.

I've played plenty of good easy games and crap hard games

i dont agree, wind waker was much more challenging then Twilight princess.

Like what? The sky dungeon alone was harder than any of the dungeons in WW.
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#95 Skittles_McGee
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[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="too_much_eslim"] TP was the easiest Zelda game I ever played. If they decide to make it even easier and get rid all the tough puzzles completely I will never buy a Nintendo console again. joesh89
We must've not played the same game...because Wind waker was easier than TP. And whats with the notion that a game must be hard to be good? It helps but it's not a requirement.

I've played plenty of good easy games and crap hard games

i dont agree, wind waker was much more challenging then Twilight princess.

I disagree. Wind Waker was really easy. I never even had to heal in that game. I did have to heal myself once or twice in TP though.
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[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"][QUOTE="joesh89"][QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"] We must've not played the same game...because Wind waker was easier than TP. And whats with the notion that a game must be hard to be good? It helps but it's not a requirement.

I've played plenty of good easy games and crap hard games

i dont agree, wind waker was much more challenging then Twilight princess.

I disagree. Wind Waker was really easy. I never even had to heal in that game. I did have to heal myself once or twice in TP though.

remember that ball and chian minniboss? I didn't expect to take off 6 hearts with one hit.
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#97 St_muscat
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Yay quoting a bunch of what if's and I think's. The fact is we have no facts about it apart from basics like yes it's in development and yes the team working on it will be a younger than usual team for a Zelda game. That's basically all we know so why are worrying about rumors or fake news that they made up themselves.
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#98 shoeman12
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i certainly hope it won't be casual.
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#99 Skittles_McGee
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remember that ball and chian minniboss? I didn't expect to take off 6 hearts with one hit.Shinobishyguy
I'm pretty sure thats where I had to heal :lol:
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#100 GundamGuy0
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Yay quoting a bunch of what if's and I think's. The fact is we have no facts about it apart from basics like yes it's in development and yes the team working on it will be a younger than usual team for a Zelda game. That's basically all we know so why are worrying about rumors or fake news that they made up themselves.St_muscat
Exactly... Like did you check the sources... It's all speculation they are using to fuel more speculation.