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#101 joesh89
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what if you told the final fantasy gamers that there next installment would be casual ? hmm.....
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#102 too_much_eslim
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[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="LittleHands134"] It'll be a ridiculously easy game that holds your hand throughout the entire thing. Just like every other casual title.Shinobishyguy
TP was the easiest Zelda game I ever played. If they decide to make it even easier and get rid all the tough puzzles completely I will never buy a Nintendo console again.

We must've not played the same game...because Wind waker was easier than TP. And whats with the notion that a game must be hard to be good? It helps but it's not a requirement.

I've played plenty of good easy games and crap hard games

I had fun though with WW and they didn't strip gameplay mechanics from WW. I never complained about that game so it didn't bother me. TP however was terrible. Also there were at least decent puzzles in WW. I can't say teh same for TP.
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#103 sonicthemegaman
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Zelda is pretty much already dead. The last great Zelda game was 8 years ago - Majora's Mask. That game was fresh, dark, and innovative, and they took a serious chance changing things around, and it worked. However, ever since then, the series has become very stale, boring and formulaic. The hardcore Nintendo fanboys are to blame for this, because they want the same thing over and over, and any change or improvements they riot against. "ZOMG ACTUAL DIALOGUE INSTEAD OF TEXT? BLASPHEMY!" - for example. GinoNYC
too true. remember how sonic fanboys reacted to the werehog?
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#104 too_much_eslim
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[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"][QUOTE="joesh89"]

i dont agree, wind waker was much more challenging then Twilight princess.

Shinobishyguy
I disagree. Wind Waker was really easy. I never even had to heal in that game. I did have to heal myself once or twice in TP though.

remember that ball and chian minniboss? I didn't expect to take off 6 hearts with one hit.

honestly I can't remeber that boss. The only time I died was when I faced the guy that changed the levels everytime you weakened him. And i only died in the first stage because I didn't realise i was supposed to use my boomerang
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#105 Timstuff
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I have no respect left from Nintendo. They're not satisfied with just milking franchises anymore. Now, they feel like they have to defile them. If a casual Zelda game isn't enough to raise the red flag that Nintendo has abandoned the core gamer, I don't know what would be.
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#106 too_much_eslim
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I have no respect left from Nintendo. They're not satisfied with just milking franchises anymore. Now, they feel like they have to defile them. If a casual Zelda game isn't enough to raise the red flag that Nintendo has abandoned the core gamer, I don't know what would be.Timstuff
should have seen it coming with that Zelda crossbow training game.
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#107 Tsug_Ze_Wind
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:lol: That doesn't mean anything.

Did anyone think the next Zelda wasn't going to be accessible? Like every other game in the series?

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#108 jethrovegas
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i dont agree, wind waker was much more challenging then Twilight princess. joesh89

When was the last time you played through either of them?

I played through WW and TP again, in parallel, just a few months ago, and TP was far more difficult, in both the combat and the puzzles.

Give them another go, side by side, and you'll see what I'm talking about.

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#109 joesh89
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[QUOTE="joesh89"] i dont agree, wind waker was much more challenging then Twilight princess. jethrovegas

When was the last time you played through either of them?

I played through WW and TP again, in parallel, just a few months ago, and TP was far more difficult, in both the combat and the puzzles.

Give them another go, side by side, and you'll see what I'm talking about.

well im sure of which one i enjoyed more......wind waker

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#110 too_much_eslim
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[QUOTE="joesh89"][QUOTE="jethrovegas"]

i dont agree, wind waker was much more challenging then Twilight princess. joesh89

When was the last time you played through either of them?

I played through WW and TP again, in parallel, just a few months ago, and TP was far more difficult, in both the combat and the puzzles.

Give them another go, side by side, and you'll see what I'm talking about.

well im sure of which one i enjoyed more......wind waker

Yeah me too. I probaly need to play wind waker again.
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#111 Tsug_Ze_Wind
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what if you told the final fantasy gamers that there next installment would be casual ? hmm.....joesh89

They'd probably whine, but Zelda fans are much more mature than FF fans.

*farts in the general direction of all FF fans*

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#112 sonic_spark
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Could be more casual... does not necessarily "casual confirmed".

All that stuff looked fake, but believable. Oh well, I'll wait till god himself, Miyamoto, announces to the world his new brain child.

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#113 deactivated-5f4694ac412a8
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After reading a few pages of this thread, I can't even describe what I want to say to the TC right now... For Christ's sake, settle down, don't take their world for it, and accept the possibility that these changes may be for the better. People complain about rehashes, yet they also complain about a change to the Zelda series. Anyway, this thread sucks.
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#114 CleanPlayer
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I'll be dissappointed if it is casual. Man I hope it's a remake of Link to the Past. That'd be a hit for sure.
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#115 bri360
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[QUOTE="LittleHands134"][QUOTE="TAKE_IT_BACK"]

So it'll be more accessible? Can't see how thats a bad thing.

BTW, this is all rumor.

DaSorcerer77

It'll be a ridiculously easy game that holds your hand throughout the entire thing. Just like every other casual title.

Kinda like prince of persia

yeah, the new prince of Persia really ticks me off. The great thing that PoP games were known for were ridiculously hard puzzles and other challenges, its what made the game so great. The new one is easy, it is the perfect example of casual takeover.

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#116 too_much_eslim
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[QUOTE="DaSorcerer77"][QUOTE="LittleHands134"] It'll be a ridiculously easy game that holds your hand throughout the entire thing. Just like every other casual title.bri360
Kinda like prince of persia

yeah, the new prince of Persia really ticks me off. The great thing that PoP games were known for were ridiculously hard puzzles and other challenges, its what made the game so great. The new one is easy, it is the perfect example of casual takeover.

Woah what? They got rid of the challenging puzzles?
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#117 xXMcClaneXx
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WTF!!!!!!!!

im so sick of nintendo nowadays

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#118 Dahaka-UK
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Sooo... It's going to be accessible to both casuals and hardcore.. :| That could only mean one thing the new zelda is going to half crap and half good. Or perhaps the whole game will suck. Nintendo will butcher all there franchises to appeal to the non gamer casuals. Theirs no stopping them. They make money making crap. It's very easy to figure out by now. Sheep still don't get it.
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#119 joesh89
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nintendo wont kill zelda, to me nintendo are already dead. i will never purchase a nintendo product ever again. my heart has been broken. the void in my life is nintendo. im gonna just pretend its 1999 again, play my n64 and look forward to the upcoming dolphin.
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#120 Kickinurass
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I disagree. Wind Waker was really easy. I never even had to heal in that game. I did have to heal myself once or twice in TP though.Skittles_McGee

I think if anything, Zelda games should be made more challenging. I've enjoyed all the games, but I can seriously go through them in a day or two max. Even the new "50 floors of increasing difficulty" style dungeons are ridiculously easy.

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#121 surrealnumber5
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i love how moste people are not even reading the link and just taking the TC title/op as gods word. there is nothing here to whine cry or bash on about

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#122 helium_flash
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Ok, how could anyone take this seriously, we know absolutely nothing about the game except that its in development. period.DaSorcerer77
Exactly.
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#123 shutdown_202
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Everyone here seems to be acting like nintendo have casualised all their franchises this gen. I don't really know much about the wii but could someone give me some examples of this for e.g fire emblem GC to fire emblem wii, melee to brawl. I just want to see how likely it is nintendo casualise zelda. I wonder how many people actually read the link.
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#124 Shinobishyguy
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nintendo wont kill zelda, to me nintendo are already dead. i will never purchase a nintendo product ever again. my heart has been broken. the void in my life is nintendo. im gonna just pretend its 1999 again, play my n64 and look forward to the upcoming dolphin.joesh89
calm down drama queen. All of the stuff on that page is nothing but speculation :lol:
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#125 BaraChat
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I thought Wind Waker was a great freaking game, so was TP, even though the latter didn't do much different from OoT. Those games still rock. There's no way in hell that the next Zelda game won't be a success.
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#126 Mckenna1845
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http://monstervine.com/exclusive-the-next-zelda-what-we-know-so-far/

Here's some information about the new Zelda game, I'll take out the highlight from the article.

"New Zelda could go casual"

Thanks again for killing yet another of my favorite series, Nintendo.

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i doubt they'd make it casual, in what way could you make zelda casual, it's already accessible to all, you have to be stupid to not know how to waggle a remote and move the control stick about. The controls are the only thing that could be made slightly easier, but i think they are one of the most accessible about. The only way to make it casual is to completely destroy the gameplay, and make the puzzles etc. absolutely basic.
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#127 SnowVilliers
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You people are over reacting and taking this out of proportion. I doubt they'll dumb down LoZ for casuals. Besides most LoZ games are already too easy. If anything they mean that the story will be more understandable for newcomers to the series and stuff like that. Also the Zelda creator recently said he won't stop until he tops Ocarina of Time. You don't top Ocarina of Time by dumbing down the series for casuals.
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#129 joesh89
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[QUOTE="joesh89"]nintendo wont kill zelda, to me nintendo are already dead. i will never purchase a nintendo product ever again. my heart has been broken. the void in my life is nintendo. im gonna just pretend its 1999 again, play my n64 and look forward to the upcoming dolphin.Shinobishyguy
calm down drama queen. All of the stuff on that page is nothing but speculation :lol:

yea man i was just off on a rant,

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#130 Shinobishyguy
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[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="joesh89"]nintendo wont kill zelda, to me nintendo are already dead. i will never purchase a nintendo product ever again. my heart has been broken. the void in my life is nintendo. im gonna just pretend its 1999 again, play my n64 and look forward to the upcoming dolphin.joesh89

calm down drama queen. All of the stuff on that page is nothing but speculation :lol:

yea man i was just off on a rant,

Not to mention that you ignored all of the good predictions in that article.
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#131 joesh89
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my rant wasnt really to do with zelda, more to the point it was how i feel about nintendo at the moment. i mean the return of midna to me is a postive aspect of the article, i liked that character alot, and i agree with someone who mentioned how easy zelda is, i think they should make it more difficult.
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#132 DoctorStrange79
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There's no doubt that most of us want them to keep Zelda challenging. That's a given. If Nintendo will give us what we want is the question.

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#133 Hungry_Homer111
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That's supposed to be confirmation or something?! Wow. I could make a list of any game, and make stuff up too, and I guess it would be true, right? lol.................. :|
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#134 Mau-Justice
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accessible =/= casual

Shinobishyguy

Yea that's what Prince of Persia said as well.

Zelda is the sole reason I buy Nintendo's console every generation, so while I may not be the equivalent of 10 soccer moms, my 20 year support for Nintendo would come to a crashing hault if they ruin Zelda.

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#135 mayforcebeyou
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i hope nintendo gives link a voice. i know lots of people think it will be bad but after a few gaems everyone wil get used to it

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#136 Dreams-Visions
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I'm preparing to be disgusted. seems inevitable.
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#137 GundamGuy0
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[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]

accessible =/= casual

Mau-Justice

Yea that's what Prince of Persia said as well.

Zelda is the sole reason I buy Nintendo's console every generation, so while I may not be the equivalent of 10 soccer moms, my 20 year support for Nintendo would come to a crashing hault if they ruin Zelda.

Don't worry, this proof is just youtube rants by some random person who believes in conspiracy theories...
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#138 Masterx1220
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A little quick to jump the gun aren't we
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#139 CleanPlayer
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I thought Wind Waker was a great freaking game, so was TP, even though the latter didn't do much different from OoT. Those games still rock. There's no way in hell that the next Zelda game won't be a success.BaraChat
Not a fan of TP, just something about it ticked me off.