Nintendo will sell 50 million WiiUs based on their franchises alone

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#1 phonemug
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GC had 30 million in sales based on its franchises and not much else, I figure 50 million is about the worst the Wii U can do (though I'm expecting quite a bit better) because Nintendo franchises have become much more popular due to all the exposure they got this gen with the popularity of the Wii and DS. I still think Xbox 720 will win. I'd be surprised if Sony even bothers to show up.
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Gamecube

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Also LOL WII U

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Gamecube

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Also LOL WII U

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GC sold 30 million based on it franchises, and those franchises are much more popular after the Wii/DS generation. Not to mention there's more of them such as NSMB, Braintraining ect.
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Gamecube. N64. I agree that Nintendo franchises are more popular than ever, and that Mario+Mario Kart alone will sell about 20 million Wii Us, but Nintendo really needs to secure third party support, or this thing will be stillborn.
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"]Gamecube. N64. I agree that Nintendo franchises are more popular than ever, and that Mario+Mario Kart alone will sell about 20 million Wii Us, but Nintendo really needs to secure third party support, or this thing will be stillborn.

Well they've already announced more big third party games for the WiiU than the Wii or GC ever had. Plus, Nintendo's first party is stronger than ever. Really, 50 million is a minimum. No Nintendo platform will ever be a stillborn due to the strength of their first party and all the money they have to throw at it.
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The Wii in the name WiiU will add on a few million more. Nintendo is set to succeed (being number 1) and can only mess it up for themselves at this point.
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It would be cool to see Nintendo and MS battling it out for #!. However, in the end, I'd like to see a neck-and-neck tie between the two once the dust settles.

I don't see Sony moving from where they are.

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[QUOTE="phonemug"]GC had 30 million in sales based on its franchises and not much else, I figure 50 million is about the worst the Wii U can do (though I'm expecting quite a bit better) because Nintendo franchises have become much more popular due to all the exposure they got this gen with the popularity of the Wii and DS. I still think Xbox 720 will win. I'd be surprised if Sony even bothers to show up.

[QUOTE="phonemug"]GC had 30 million in sales based on its franchises and not much else, I figure 50 million is about the worst the Wii U can do (though I'm expecting quite a bit better) because Nintendo franchises have become much more popular due to all the exposure they got this gen with the popularity of the Wii and DS. I still think Xbox 720 will win. I'd be surprised if Sony even bothers to show up.

[QUOTE="phonemug"]GC had 30 million in sales based on its franchises and not much else, I figure 50 million is about the worst the Wii U can do (though I'm expecting quite a bit better) because Nintendo franchises have become much more popular due to all the exposure they got this gen with the popularity of the Wii and DS. I still think Xbox 720 will win. I'd be surprised if Sony even bothers to show up.

I could see Nintendo selling close to that many Wii Us'. If they market it properly, it may take off like the Wii did, especially with that interactive controller. I just want the chance to play Nintendo games in HD finally!
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[QUOTE="phonemug"][QUOTE="charizard1605"]Gamecube. N64. I agree that Nintendo franchises are more popular than ever, and that Mario+Mario Kart alone will sell about 20 million Wii Us, but Nintendo really needs to secure third party support, or this thing will be stillborn.

Well they've already announced more big third party games for the WiiU than the Wii or GC ever had. Plus, Nintendo's first party is stronger than ever. Really, 50 million is a minimum. No Nintendo platform will ever be a stillborn due to the strength of their first party and all the money they have to throw at it.

The big third party games for the Wii U are all last gen ports. Just like with the Wii. The thing with the Wii U is not if it can be competitive at launch, it is if it can be competitive after Sony and Microsoft launch their next systems. Nintendo has to make sure it won't be as absurdly overwhelmed as the Wii was. 50 million is very optimistic. I want this thing to do well, but Nintendo has to convince me. This E3, I suppose.
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="phonemug"][QUOTE="charizard1605"]Gamecube. N64. I agree that Nintendo franchises are more popular than ever, and that Mario+Mario Kart alone will sell about 20 million Wii Us, but Nintendo really needs to secure third party support, or this thing will be stillborn.

Well they've already announced more big third party games for the WiiU than the Wii or GC ever had. Plus, Nintendo's first party is stronger than ever. Really, 50 million is a minimum. No Nintendo platform will ever be a stillborn due to the strength of their first party and all the money they have to throw at it.

The big third party games for the Wii U are all last gen ports. Just like with the Wii. The thing with the Wii U is not if it can be competitive at launch, it is if it can be competitive after Sony and Microsoft launch their next systems. Nintendo has to make sure it won't be as absurdly overwhelmed as the Wii was. 50 million is very optimistic. I want this thing to do well, but Nintendo has to convince me. This E3, I suppose.

"Last gen ports" is a bit of a stretch. That's like saying PC gets "Last gen ports". The Wii U is going to get versions of the same games that all the other platforms get, plus Nintendo exclusives, plus a few 3rd part exclusives that have been announced already. 3rd party exclusives are a very rare commodity on any platform at this point. I don't see 50 million being optimistic at all, that would be a disappointment. I feel its a worst case scenario. 80 million is what I'm expecting. Nintendo went mass market this generation it will carry over somewhat to next.
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[QUOTE="phonemug"][QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="phonemug"]Well they've already announced more big third party games for the WiiU than the Wii or GC ever had. Plus, Nintendo's first party is stronger than ever. Really, 50 million is a minimum. No Nintendo platform will ever be a stillborn due to the strength of their first party and all the money they have to throw at it.

The big third party games for the Wii U are all last gen ports. Just like with the Wii. The thing with the Wii U is not if it can be competitive at launch, it is if it can be competitive after Sony and Microsoft launch their next systems. Nintendo has to make sure it won't be as absurdly overwhelmed as the Wii was. 50 million is very optimistic. I want this thing to do well, but Nintendo has to convince me. This E3, I suppose.

"Last gen ports" is a bit of a stretch. That's like saying PC gets "Last gen ports". The Wii U is going to get versions of the same games that all the other platforms get, plus Nintendo exclusives, plus a few 3rd part exclusives that have been announced already. 3rd party exclusives are a very rare commodity on any platform at this point.

My point being, will the Wii U still get extensive third party support via multiplats once the next Xbox and Playstation have been released?
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="phonemug"][QUOTE="charizard1605"] The big third party games for the Wii U are all last gen ports. Just like with the Wii. The thing with the Wii U is not if it can be competitive at launch, it is if it can be competitive after Sony and Microsoft launch their next systems. Nintendo has to make sure it won't be as absurdly overwhelmed as the Wii was. 50 million is very optimistic. I want this thing to do well, but Nintendo has to convince me. This E3, I suppose.

"Last gen ports" is a bit of a stretch. That's like saying PC gets "Last gen ports". The Wii U is going to get versions of the same games that all the other platforms get, plus Nintendo exclusives, plus a few 3rd part exclusives that have been announced already. 3rd party exclusives are a very rare commodity on any platform at this point.

My point being, will the Wii U still get extensive third party support via multiplats once the next Xbox and Playstation have been released?

From all indications the next Xbox and PS4 (if that even comes out which I doubt) won't be out until 2014. With a 2 year head start, and next gen games that will at the very least be scalable to WiiU (unlike this gen with the Wii which did not even have the shaders to run current gen games) it should do okay. Better than the N64, GC or the Wii did with third parties anyhow. Lest we not forget that saleswise the Wii destroyed the competition with no support.
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[QUOTE="phonemug"][QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="phonemug"]"Last gen ports" is a bit of a stretch. That's like saying PC gets "Last gen ports". The Wii U is going to get versions of the same games that all the other platforms get, plus Nintendo exclusives, plus a few 3rd part exclusives that have been announced already. 3rd party exclusives are a very rare commodity on any platform at this point.

My point being, will the Wii U still get extensive third party support via multiplats once the next Xbox and Playstation have been released?

From all indications the next Xbox and PS4 (if that even comes out which I doubt) won't be out until 2014. With a 2 year head start, and next gen games that will at the very least be scalable to WiiU (unlike this gen with the Wii which did not even have the shaders to run next gen games) it should do okay. Better than the N64, GC or the Wii did with third parties anyhow. Lest we not forget that saleswise the Wii destroyed the competition with no support.

Oh, I agree NIntendo first party games have the ability to sustain entire systems all by themselves. They have been doing this for three generations straight now, after all. But this system's absolute success depends entirely on whether it will be future proof enough to compete with the next PS/Xbox (a la the PS2, which launched a year before GCN and Xbox, and was the absolute weakest, but was still powerful enough to get all the games). It depends on what Nintendo stuffs into it.
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Gamecube

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GC sold 30 million based on it franchises, and those franchises are much more popular after the Wii/DS generation. Not to mention there's more of them such as NSMB, Braintraining ect.

The GameCube sold 22 million units, and had to stop production for six months due to too much in stock, which this happened just after Wind Waker, Sunshine, Prime to be fair.
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Gamecube. N64. I agree that Nintendo franchises are more popular than ever, and that Mario+Mario Kart alone will sell about 20 million Wii Us, but Nintendo really needs to secure third party support, or this thing will be stillborn.charizard1605
Dude your not a good sheep.

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[QUOTE="bonesawisready5"] The GameCube sold 22 million units, and had to stop production for six months due to too much in stock, which this happened just after Wind Waker, Sunshine, Prime to be fair.

So even though it had the best 3D Zelda, the best Metroid, the best Mario Kart and the best Smash Bros., it still sold that little? :P

Dude your not a good sheep.

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[QUOTE="bonesawisready5"] The GameCube sold 22 million units, and had to stop production for six months due to too much in stock, which this happened just after Wind Waker, Sunshine, Prime to be fair.charizard1605
So even though it had the best 3D Zelda, the best Metroid, the best Mario Kart and the best Smash Bros., it still sold that little? :P

Dude your not a good sheep.

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Yu shoudnt be.

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Yu shoudnt be.

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If the Ps4 really doesn't come out until 2014, that could be bad for the Wii U.

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If the Ps4 really doesn't come out until 2014, that could be bad for the Wii U.

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All down to the PRICE of the Wii:U.
I don't think casuals would want to pay too much.

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[QUOTE="WomanDog"]

Yu shoudnt be.

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It's time

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All down to the PRICE of the Wii:U.
I don't think casuals would want to pay too much.

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Which is why Nintendo is targeting the HARDCORE

It's time

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If the Ps4 really doesn't come out until 2014, that could be bad for the Wii U.

charizard1605

I'm not sure I follow you here.

I meant to say, that could be bad for the Wii U's 3rd party support. The Ps4 coming out a year later then we thought would mean the power gap between the two consoles would get even bigger, and we know what happened with the Wii.

Pure speculation of course, the Wii U could be a monster and Sony probably doesn't want to bleed money with the Ps4 from the start.

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They need to build a serious relationship with 3rd party developers before that can ever happen, which I doubt. Sony and MS already have that locked down. And even 3DS and Vita.

Keep dreaming :lol:

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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

If the Ps4 really doesn't come out until 2014, that could be bad for the Wii U.

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I'm not sure I follow you here.

I meant to say, that could be bad for the Wii U's 3rd party support. The Ps4 coming out a year later then we thought would mean the power gap between the two consoles would get even bigger, and we know what happened with the Wii.

Pure speculation of course, the Wii U could be a monster and Sony doesn't want to bleed money with the Ps4 from the start.

Even if your scenario is correct, it would not matter as long as the Xbox 720 is in the same ballpark as the Wii U, power wise. Third parties in that case will want to develop for the Wii U/720 and then just port the games as they are to the PS4 with minimal additions and enhancements. Like a reverse PS2-GCN/Xbox scenario.
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I would say that it depends upon the quality of the games that they will be releasing for their legacy franchises.

One of the big selling points of the Nintendo consoles is the fact that you can pretty much guarantee that you'll see a AAA Mario game or two soon after the console is released. These games are usually the reason so many people adopt the console in the first place and I see this happening again for the WiiU. But they need to make it THE console to own if that's going to happen again.

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It's time

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I have too many followers to be overthrown :evil:

So did this guy:
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"]

[QUOTE="D4W1L4H"]

It's time

D4W1L4H

I have too many followers to be overthrown :evil:

So did this guy:
gadafi

... :shock:

Don't overthrow me please :(

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[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"] I'm not sure I follow you here.charizard1605

I meant to say, that could be bad for the Wii U's 3rd party support. The Ps4 coming out a year later then we thought would mean the power gap between the two consoles would get even bigger, and we know what happened with the Wii.

Pure speculation of course, the Wii U could be a monster and Sony doesn't want to bleed money with the Ps4 from the start.

Even if your scenario is correct, it would not matter as long as the Xbox 720 is in the same ballpark as the Wii U, power wise. Third parties in that case will want to develop for the Wii U/720 and then just port the games as they are to the PS4 with minimal additions and enhancements. Like a reverse PS2-GCN/Xbox scenario.

Ah, true. I just want all 3 consoles to share all multiplats, regardless of graphical differences.

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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

I meant to say, that could be bad for the Wii U's 3rd party support. The Ps4 coming out a year later then we thought would mean the power gap between the two consoles would get even bigger, and we know what happened with the Wii.

Pure speculation of course, the Wii U could be a monster and Sony doesn't want to bleed money with the Ps4 from the start.

theuncharted34

Even if your scenario is correct, it would not matter as long as the Xbox 720 is in the same ballpark as the Wii U, power wise. Third parties in that case will want to develop for the Wii U/720 and then just port the games as they are to the PS4 with minimal additions and enhancements. Like a reverse PS2-GCN/Xbox scenario.

Ah, true. I just want all 3 consoles to share all multiplats, regardless of graphical differences.

Same here, although if that DID happen, Nintendo's system would become the system to own, basically. The only reason that I (and I suspect this is true for many other people too) have ever bought the non Nintendo systems is because I would have missed out on tird party games otherwise. If a Nintendo system could be guaranteed of all the third party support PLUS Nintendo's own first party support, then it would become the go to console, easily.
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[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"] Even if your scenario is correct, it would not matter as long as the Xbox 720 is in the same ballpark as the Wii U, power wise. Third parties in that case will want to develop for the Wii U/720 and then just port the games as they are to the PS4 with minimal additions and enhancements. Like a reverse PS2-GCN/Xbox scenario.charizard1605

Ah, true. I just want all 3 consoles to share all multiplats, regardless of graphical differences.

Same here, although if that DID happen, Nintendo's system would become the system to own, basically. The only reason that I (and I suspect this is true for many other people too) have ever bought the non Nintendo systems is because I would have missed out on tird party games otherwise. If a Nintendo system could be guaranteed of all the third party support PLUS Nintendo's own first party support, then it would become the go to console, easily.

It would be the modern SNES. Which is pretty fap worthy.
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GC sold 30 million based on it franchisesphonemug
Gamecube only sold a little over 21 million.
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"] Even if your scenario is correct, it would not matter as long as the Xbox 720 is in the same ballpark as the Wii U, power wise. Third parties in that case will want to develop for the Wii U/720 and then just port the games as they are to the PS4 with minimal additions and enhancements. Like a reverse PS2-GCN/Xbox scenario.charizard1605

Ah, true. I just want all 3 consoles to share all multiplats, regardless of graphical differences.

Same here, although if that DID happen, Nintendo's system would become the system to own, basically. The only reason that I (and I suspect this is true for many other people too) have ever bought the non Nintendo systems is because I would have missed out on tird party games otherwise. If a Nintendo system could be guaranteed of all the third party support PLUS Nintendo's own first party support, then it would become the go to console, easily.

Maybe, but not for sure. The Ps4 will still put up a fight regardless.

As for it becoming the go to console, that depends on the audience. :P

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[QUOTE="phonemug"]GC sold 30 million based on it franchisesCajunShooter
Gamecube only sold a little over 21 million.

My bad... but my point still stands.
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seems like i agree with people here, Wii U couldl top out at 40mill, but i need to c it some more, its going the direction of the gamecube...they need to stick to the casual market like the wii
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It would be the modern SNES. Which is pretty fap worthy.phonemug
I agree :D

Maybe, but not for sure. The Ps4 will still put up a fight regardless.

As for it becoming the go to console, that depends on the audience. :P

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I love Sony's exclusives but... Come on now :P

Nintendo managed to make the N64 the hardcore gamer's console in North America. If they brand and position this one right, we could be looking at the next PS2, or at the very least, the next SNES, which, like phonemug said, is very fapworthy.

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#38 CajunShooter
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[QUOTE="CajunShooter"][QUOTE="phonemug"]GC sold 30 million based on it franchisesphonemug
Gamecube only sold a little over 21 million.

My bad... but my point still stands.

Unfortunately for Nintendo, there is a decent size part of their userbase that bought Wiis because of the novelty of it (older people). Not sure if they will convince these people who only played Wii Sports to go out and buy another console when they hardly touch their Wiis. This is evident by the Wii having the lowest attach rate of the 3 systems as well as the lowest avg time that users play their Wiis.

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#39 phonemug
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seems like i agree with people here, Wii U couldl top out at 40mill, but i need to c it some more, its going the direction of the gamecube...they need to stick to the casual market like the wiiwinner-ps3
This has to be the first generation ever where people are saying successor to the console that sold roughly 100 million will "top out" at 40 million. People always doubt Nintendo and it always bites them in the ass in the end.
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#40 theuncharted34
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[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

Maybe, but not for sure. The Ps4 will still put up a fight regardless.

As for it becoming the go to console, that depends on the audience. :P

charizard1605

I love Sony's exclusives but... Come on now :P

Nintendo managed to make the N64 the hardcore gamer's console in North America. If they brand and position this one right, we could be looking at the next PS2, or at the very least, the next SNES, which, like phonemug said, is very fapworthy.

Sony will still have Guerrilla and Santa Monica, those two alone match Ninty's Mario and Zelda teams (At Guerrilla's best, at least). Then there's still Sucker Punch, but Insomniac will most likely go multiplatform completely, and Team ICO is probably going to go under.

It's true though, Nintendo's first party will beat out Sony's next gen but it'll still be close.

The Wii U'll probably be the first console I get out of the 2.

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#41 Diviniuz
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"]

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

Maybe, but not for sure. The Ps4 will still put up a fight regardless.

As for it becoming the go to console, that depends on the audience. :P

theuncharted34

I love Sony's exclusives but... Come on now :P

Nintendo managed to make the N64 the hardcore gamer's console in North America. If they brand and position this one right, we could be looking at the next PS2, or at the very least, the next SNES, which, like phonemug said, is very fapworthy.

Sony has Guerrilla and Santa Monica, those two alone match Ninty's Mario and Zelda teams (At Guerrilla's best, at least). Then there's still Sucker Punch, but Insomniac will most likely go multiplatform completely, and Team ICO is probably going to go under.

It's true though, Nintendo's first party will beat out Sony's next gen but it'll still be close.

The Wii U'll probably be the first console I get out of the 2.

I lol'ed at the first sentence

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#42 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"]

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

Maybe, but not for sure. The Ps4 will still put up a fight regardless.

As for it becoming the go to console, that depends on the audience. :P

theuncharted34

I love Sony's exclusives but... Come on now :P

Nintendo managed to make the N64 the hardcore gamer's console in North America. If they brand and position this one right, we could be looking at the next PS2, or at the very least, the next SNES, which, like phonemug said, is very fapworthy.

Sony will still have Guerrilla and Santa Monica, those two alone match Ninty's Mario and Zelda teams (At Guerrilla's best, at least). Then there's still Sucker Punch, but Insomniac will most likely go multiplatform completely, and Team ICO is probably going to go under.

It's true though, Nintendo's first party will beat out Sony's next gen but it'll still be close.

The Wii U'll probably be the first console I get out of the 2.

The thing is, at its best, Nintendo's first party is damn unbeatable. On the Wii U, they will shine.

The question with Sony is, will they continue with the huge stable of varied IPs that they have established this gen? Or will they start over (again)?

I'll be getting the Wii U at launch. Nintendo in HD... CURSE YOU NINTENDO Of course, when the price is dropped six months later due to sluggish sales, I will be very sad. I hope that the 10 free N64 games and 10 free GCN games that they offer as compensation though will make me happy.

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#43 CajunShooter
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Sony will still have Guerrilla and Santa Monica, those two alone match Ninty's Mario and Zelda teams (At Guerrilla's best, at least). theuncharted34
They are good, but come on man. Stop being delusional. Stop giving lemmings and sheep more reasons to hate cows.

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#44 theuncharted34
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[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"] I love Sony's exclusives but... Come on now :P

Nintendo managed to make the N64 the hardcore gamer's console in North America. If they brand and position this one right, we could be looking at the next PS2, or at the very least, the next SNES, which, like phonemug said, is very fapworthy.

Diviniuz

Sony has Guerrilla and Santa Monica, those two alone match Ninty's Mario and Zelda teams (At Guerrilla's best, at least). Then there's still Sucker Punch, but Insomniac will most likely go multiplatform completely, and Team ICO is probably going to go under.

It's true though, Nintendo's first party will beat out Sony's next gen but it'll still be close.

The Wii U'll probably be the first console I get out of the 2.

I lol'ed at the first sentence

Thanks for contributing.

It's still true. The Mario and Zelda teams are far from consistent.

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#45 theuncharted34
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[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"] I love Sony's exclusives but... Come on now :P

Nintendo managed to make the N64 the hardcore gamer's console in North America. If they brand and position this one right, we could be looking at the next PS2, or at the very least, the next SNES, which, like phonemug said, is very fapworthy.

charizard1605

Sony will still have Guerrilla and Santa Monica, those two alone match Ninty's Mario and Zelda teams (At Guerrilla's best, at least). Then there's still Sucker Punch, but Insomniac will most likely go multiplatform completely, and Team ICO is probably going to go under.

It's true though, Nintendo's first party will beat out Sony's next gen but it'll still be close.

The Wii U'll probably be the first console I get out of the 2.

The thing is, at its best, Nintendo's first party is damn unbeatable. On the Wii U, they will shine.

The question with Sony is, will they continue with the huge stable of varied IPs that they have established this gen? Or will they start over (again)?

I'll be getting the Wii U at launch. Nintendo in HD... CURSE YOU NINTENDO Of course, when the price is dropped six months later due to sluggish sales, I will be very sad. I hope that the 10 free N64 games and 10 free GCN games that they offer as compensation though will make me happy.

They sure will. I'm particularly excited about what Retro's up to.

Sony'll have a mix of new and old IP's just like this gen.

And damn it Chaz, you know better than that. :P

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#46 theuncharted34
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[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]Sony will still have Guerrilla and Santa Monica, those two alone match Ninty's Mario and Zelda teams (At Guerrilla's best, at least). CajunShooter

They are good, but come on man. Stop being delusional. Stop giving lemmings and sheep more reasons to hate cows.

Thank you for such a non nonsense argument.

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The Mario and Zelda teams are far from consistent.

theuncharted34

Let's be fair, the Mario team (EAD Toky) is VERY consistent. I mean, Super Mario Galaxy, Super Mario Galaxy 2 and Super Mario 3D Land? That's some consistency right there.

They sure will. I'm particularly excited about what Retro's up to.

Sony'll have a mix of new and old IP's just like this gen.

And damn it Chaz, you know better than that. :P

theuncharted34

Retro is either working on F-Zero UX for the Wii U launch, or Metroid Prime 4 HD. BELIEVE.

I hope Sony keeps their IPs, they have a good stable, and if they hope to one day compete with Nintendo in that department, they need to stop ditching their franchises.

And no, I really wish I did though :(

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#48 theuncharted34
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[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

The Mario and Zelda teams are far from consistent.

charizard1605

Let's be fair, the Mario team (EAD Toky) is VERY consistent. I mean, Super Mario Galaxy, Super Mario Galaxy 2 and Super Mario 3D Land? That's some consistency right there.

Is that the same team that made Sunshine as well though? And, it'd be pretty damn hard to mess up a sequel consisting of the exact same gameplay albeit with many new idea's and levels.

Either way, Nintendo's teams always do different projects, and I was referring to all the teams that work on the games, not just one team.

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#49 soulitane
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[QUOTE="Diviniuz"]

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

Sony has Guerrilla and Santa Monica, those two alone match Ninty's Mario and Zelda teams (At Guerrilla's best, at least). Then there's still Sucker Punch, but Insomniac will most likely go multiplatform completely, and Team ICO is probably going to go under.

It's true though, Nintendo's first party will beat out Sony's next gen but it'll still be close.

The Wii U'll probably be the first console I get out of the 2.

theuncharted34

I lol'ed at the first sentence

Thanks for contributing.

It's still true. The Mario and Zelda teams are far from consistent.

I'm not really that knowledgeable about GG, but haven't they only been at their best once with KZ2?
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#50 nintendoboy16
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"]Gamecube. N64. I agree that Nintendo franchises are more popular than ever, and that Mario+Mario Kart alone will sell about 20 million Wii Us, but Nintendo really needs to secure third party support, or this thing will be stillborn.

And we all know that still won't do anything knowing... oh what's the use.