Title says it all. Is it a case of weaker hardware or are MS's 1st party to weak to take full advantage of the console.
And nobody say all I care about is graphics because so far Alan Wake is 10x the game U2 was.
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Title says it all. Is it a case of weaker hardware or are MS's 1st party to weak to take full advantage of the console.
And nobody say all I care about is graphics because so far Alan Wake is 10x the game U2 was.
Their Best ''looking game alan wake is sub -Hd LOL. So no 360 game will ever surpass Uc, gow 3 and killzone 2
[QUOTE="chronocross668"]
Their Best ''looking game alan wake is sub -Hd LOL. So no 360 game will ever surpass Uc, gow 3 and killzone 2
ogvampire
mgs4 was sub-HD as well, but that didnt stop it from winning graphics awards
Indeed , no clue what gs was thinking when they gave that award to mgs4 instead of crysis warhead ;/
And please lemms,AW is pretty outdated,really is.I dont think that 360 is inferior to ps3 but damn AW:quite ugly textures,low poly details all around you(cars,chairs),lip syncing bad as last gen,un polished,quite unconvincing animations...
RDR is the new multiplatform and 360 graphics king,nothin looks better then it.
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[QUOTE="chronocross668"]
Their Best ''looking game alan wake is sub -Hd LOL. So no 360 game will ever surpass Uc, gow 3 and killzone 2
chronocross668
mgs4 was sub-HD as well, but that didnt stop it from winning graphics awards
Indeed , no clue what gs was thinking when they gave that award to mgs4 instead of crysis warhead ;/
i agree. MGS4 looked really nice, but better than warhead? thats just ridiculous
There is only one thing that looks better than KZ2, no it's not real life or crysis
it's this mustache
Can I touch it? :shock:There is only one thing that looks better than KZ2, no it's not real life or crysis
it's this mustache
Animal-Mother
Can I touch it? :shock: Have at it hoss[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]
There is only one thing that looks better than KZ2, no it's not real life or crysis
it's this mustache
lbjkurono23
[QUOTE="lbjkurono23"]Can I touch it? :shock: Have at it hoss[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]
There is only one thing that looks better than KZ2, no it's not real life or crysis
it's this mustache
Animal-Mother
Holy crap that's funny.
you will be the first one i wanna own when any of these games come subpar :D . on topic: no comment, this is the same old generic gfx thread.Crysis 2 will eat it alive...then RAGE will come and **** slap Drake.Quote me on that,im tired of this "inferior hardware brainwashed" bullcrap...
Bus-A-Bus
[QUOTE="Bus-A-Bus"]you will be the first one i wanna own when any of these games come subpar :D . on topic: no comment, this is the same old generic gfx thread.Crysis 2 will eat it alive...then RAGE will come and **** slap Drake.Quote me on that,im tired of this "inferior hardware brainwashed" bullcrap...
2mrw
Crysis 2 console > everything on console
probably not, Alan Wake was in development for 5-6 years and still couldn't beat U2 graphixKevinButlerVP
So what?The game has been open world game that shows of the PC power,then they were quite for 2 yrs to announce that its actually linear and 360 exclusive...not to mention that Remedy had 35 employees when they starte,then MS came and they went to 45...
FF13 was 5 yrs in development yet it does not look better then Gears 2,which was 2 yrs in development with 3rd party engine.And yet 150+ people worked on FF13...what does that tell us?
probably not, Alan Wake was in development for 5-6 years and still couldn't beat U2 graphixKevinButlerVP
Cuz that game had like 40 people working on it, jeez what did the game ever do to you to bash it every time you post?
[QUOTE="Bus-A-Bus"]you will be the first one i wanna own when any of these games come subpar :D . on topic: no comment, this is the same old generic gfx thread.Crysis 2 will eat it alive...then RAGE will come and **** slap Drake.Quote me on that,im tired of this "inferior hardware brainwashed" bullcrap...
2mrw
Yes,and you will be first i will "contact" when our eyes pop out at E3 :D Anyway...is it just me or cows want RAGE and Crysis 2 to fail??Cus i would SWEAR those games are mutliplats...:roll:
I choose you Teufelhuhn...
Teufelhuhn doesn't want to come out...
oh well
* wildClank-PS-Snake has been captured*
Do you want to give him a nick name?
*gives nickname* Fanboy
lbjkurono23
How the hell does this thread make me a fanboy?. Do you believe a 360 title looks as good as KZ2 from a technical perspective?, if not then I guess you're a fanboy too.
Yea I agree with you 100%, like I said Alan Wake looks pretty damn average but U2 looks great, I'm playing AW right now and It's a much more enjoyable experiance then U2 was. Still though I wonder if it could have looked better but it's not a huge deal.That's nice, but I wish it would have been more fun to play. Looking good is one thing but if the gameplay doesn't match, what's the point?
heretrix
Inferior hardware and lack of talented FP development means it will never happen.djsifer01*sigh* Why am i not surprised? Cryengine 3 is running on 360, and looks better than ANY console game on EITHER platform, and cows STILL say inferior hardware? :roll: Tech demo shows what a system (or engine) can do, so that whole "its a tech demo" is irrelevant because it is STILL running on the system.
Also i would like to add...RDR looks better then any 360 exclusive or any multiplat out there,it also looks better then all ps3 exclusives except from holy three,but the game is 5 times bigger then any of those combined yet it looks almost as appealing.So yea...KZ2 will be matched.
probably not, Alan Wake was in development for 5-6 years and still couldn't beat U2 graphixKevinButlerVPI enjoy leaving out facts too.
Holy three? :PAlso i would like to add...RDR looks better then any 360 exclusive or any multiplat out there,it also looks better then all ps3 exclusives except from holy three,but the game is 5 times bigger then any of those combined yet it looks almost as appealing.So yea...KZ2 will be matched.
Bus-A-Bus
[QUOTE="Bus-A-Bus"]Holy three? :PAlso i would like to add...RDR looks better then any 360 exclusive or any multiplat out there,it also looks better then all ps3 exclusives except from holy three,but the game is 5 times bigger then any of those combined yet it looks almost as appealing.So yea...KZ2 will be matched.
lbjkurono23
Ups,tree :P
I'm sure Teufelhuhn is as aware as anyone else that the Playstation 3 has more raw processing power than the Xbox 360. Things happened exactly as could be expected. Took a long time for Sony first party developers to shoot past 360/multiplatform games, but now that we have, there's a clear distinction. Multiplats usually look better on Xbox 360 and generally look pretty average (or even dumpy) compared to Playstation 3 exclusives, look much stronger on Xbox. Xbox 360 exclusives notably don't have as much to distinguish themselves and we can reason as to why. It's not as hard to optimize for the Xbox 360. The system is much friendlier to messy code. It's got shared RAM, 3 traditional general purpose CPU cores, and unified shaders. You can't get easier than that, short of an out-of-order architecture on the CPU.I choose you Teufelhuhn...
Teufelhuhn doesn't want to come out...
oh well
* wildClank-PS-Snake has been captured*
Do you want to give him a nick name?
*gives nickname* Fanboy
lbjkurono23
This post is win. :PI choose you Teufelhuhn...
Teufelhuhn doesn't want to come out...
oh well
* wildClank-PS-Snake has been captured*
Do you want to give him a nick name?
*gives nickname* Fanboy
lbjkurono23
Can't wait until developers max out graphics capabilities so people can actually start focusing on the important stuff like, ya know, the gameplay? Luckily Killzone 2 did have fantastic gameplay. Unluckily, it also had Rico so...Well, I am not sure if it was worth it really :(
I'm sure Teufelhuhn is as aware as anyone else that the Playstation 3 has more raw processing power than the Xbox 360. Things happened exactly as could be expected. Took a long time for Sony first party developers to shoot past 360/multiplatform games, but now that we have, there's a clear distinction. Multiplats usually look better on Xbox 360 and generally look pretty average (or even dumpy) compared to Playstation 3 exclusives, look much stronger on Xbox. Xbox 360 exclusives notably don't have as much to distinguish themselves and we can reason as to why. It's not as hard to optimize for the Xbox 360. The system is much friendlier to messy code. It's got shared RAM, 3 traditional general purpose CPU cores, and unified shaders. You can't get easier than that, short of an out-of-order architecture on the CPU.[QUOTE="lbjkurono23"]
I choose you Teufelhuhn...
Teufelhuhn doesn't want to come out...
oh well
* wildClank-PS-Snake has been captured*
Do you want to give him a nick name?
*gives nickname* Fanboy
Brownesque
Thats pretty wrong what you just wrote but i wont argue with that,only want to say that this bolded is pretty much total stupidity.What ps3 exclusives?GOW III,UC2 and KZ2.Others?:lol: RDR blows them out of the water in matter of ms and is bigger then any of them.
[QUOTE="djsifer01"]Inferior hardware and lack of talented FP development means it will never happen.navyguy21*sigh* Why am i not surprised? Cryengine 3 is running on 360, and looks better than ANY console game on EITHER platform, and cows STILL say inferior hardware? :roll: Tech demo shows what a system (or engine) can do, so that whole "its a tech demo" is irrelevant because it is STILL running on the system. I have yet to see anything of CryEngine 3 that puts it beyond Metro 2033 or any Playstation 3 exclusives.
Look how aliased it looks at 0:11:
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/gdc-10-crysis-2/64317
The textures are nothing to write home about either.
I don't see any superhuman geometry or particle effects at 0:50 This game looks more comparable to Fracture on consoles than it does to God of War 3, Killzone 2, Uncharted, etc.
God of War 3 was one of those games that made me question the superiority of PC systems. Crysis 2 makes me roll my eyes and hearken to the Nvidia gods.
I'm sure Teufelhuhn is as aware as anyone else that the Playstation 3 has more raw processing power than the Xbox 360. Things happened exactly as could be expected. Took a long time for Sony first party developers to shoot past 360/multiplatform games, but now that we have, there's a clear distinction. Multiplats usually look better on Xbox 360 and generally look pretty average (or even dumpy) compared to Playstation 3 exclusives, look much stronger on Xbox. Xbox 360 exclusives notably don't have as much to distinguish themselves and we can reason as to why. It's not as hard to optimize for the Xbox 360. The system is much friendlier to messy code. It's got shared RAM, 3 traditional general purpose CPU cores, and unified shaders. You can't get easier than that, short of an out-of-order architecture on the CPU.[QUOTE="Brownesque"]
[QUOTE="lbjkurono23"]
I choose you Teufelhuhn...
Teufelhuhn doesn't want to come out...
oh well
* wildClank-PS-Snake has been captured*
Do you want to give him a nick name?
*gives nickname* Fanboy
Bus-A-Bus
Thats pretty wrong what you just wrote but i wont argue with that,only want to say that this bolded is pretty much total stupidity.What ps3 exclusives?GOW III,UC2 and KZ2.Others?:lol: RDR blows them out of the water in matter of ms and is bigger then any of them.
RDR is sub-HD on PS3 and really doesn't look anywhere near the games you've mentioned. I'm really scratching my head and wondering if you've played the PS3 exclusives you've mentioned. Every single one of them had me staring agape at the screen. They're nothing to scoff at. I also don't know what you mean by "ms." Milliseconds? That doesn't make any sense.Dude, the fact KZ2 looks better than other games is just a design shoice and games like Gears2 and Alan Wake are up there or close. Also im sure that so far the most technically impressive console game this gen is Red Dead Redemption, especially considering it´s scale, and i dont see 360 having any problem running it.
[QUOTE="djsifer01"]Inferior hardware and lack of talented FP development means it will never happen.navyguy21
*sigh* Why am i not surprised? Cryengine 3 is running on 360, and looks better than ANY console game on EITHER platform, and cows STILL say inferior hardware? :roll: Tech demo shows what a system (or engine) can do, so that whole "its a tech demo" is irrelevant because it is STILL running on the system.
Indeed. Plus which would any of you rather have:
A platform which has about 90% of better performing multiplats, & more fun exclusives in which people will still be playing & talking about years from now (which is 360), or a system which has 1st party games that beats out any game on the rival console, but in which people won't even be playing or talking about years from now & has awful performing multiplats ever (which is PS3)?
I'd pick the former.
*sigh* Why am i not surprised? Cryengine 3 is running on 360, and looks better than ANY console game on EITHER platform, and cows STILL say inferior hardware? :roll: Tech demo shows what a system (or engine) can do, so that whole "its a tech demo" is irrelevant because it is STILL running on the system. I have yet to see anything of CryEngine 3 that puts it beyond Metro 2033 or any Playstation 3 exclusives.[QUOTE="navyguy21"][QUOTE="djsifer01"]Inferior hardware and lack of talented FP development means it will never happen.Brownesque
Look how aliased it looks at 0:11:
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/gdc-10-crysis-2/64317
The textures are nothing to write home about either.
I don't see any superhuman geometry or particle effects at 0:50 This game looks more comparable to Fracture on consoles than it does to God of War 3, Killzone 2, Uncharted, etc.
God of War 3 was one of those games that made me question the superiority of PC systems. Crysis 2 makes me roll my eyes and hearken to the Nvidia gods.
Im sure you dont have to question that...cus i dont remember ps3 having 4gb ram or HD5870,neither i remember it having i7...it has great 1st party non the less.
And that GDC trailer is ooooolllddddd...im sure they just wanted to show of features,not the game.Anyway,textures and aa will come latest,just like in Reach(night and day difference in two builds).
Anyway...SOMEBODY POST THE NEWEST SCANS OF CRYSIS 2!!!! :D
Alan Wake=sub HD Direct capture screens=ugly.Dude, the fact KZ2 looks better than other games is just a design shoice and games like Gears2 and Alan Wake are up there or close. Also im sure that so far the most technically impressive console game this gen is Red Dead Redemption, especially considering it´s scale, and i dont see 360 having any problem running it.
PAL360
The framebuffer doesn't lie.
As impressive as Gears 2 is, it is not graphics king. It did not take that mantle from KZ2 and it was unable to stop Uncharted 2 from taking its place.
I was about to comment on how this is another graphics thread, and how insecure fanboys constantly mention graphics as a weak attempt to remove that little niggling feeling in the back of their minds that they chose the wrong console... But alas, this is System Wars.
[QUOTE="Bus-A-Bus"]
[QUOTE="Brownesque"] I'm sure Teufelhuhn is as aware as anyone else that the Playstation 3 has more raw processing power than the Xbox 360. Things happened exactly as could be expected. Took a long time for Sony first party developers to shoot past 360/multiplatform games, but now that we have, there's a clear distinction. Multiplats usually look better on Xbox 360 and generally look pretty average (or even dumpy) compared to Playstation 3 exclusives, look much stronger on Xbox. Xbox 360 exclusives notably don't have as much to distinguish themselves and we can reason as to why. It's not as hard to optimize for the Xbox 360. The system is much friendlier to messy code. It's got shared RAM, 3 traditional general purpose CPU cores, and unified shaders. You can't get easier than that, short of an out-of-order architecture on the CPU.
Brownesque
Thats pretty wrong what you just wrote but i wont argue with that,only want to say that this bolded is pretty much total stupidity.What ps3 exclusives?GOW III,UC2 and KZ2.Others?:lol: RDR blows them out of the water in matter of ms and is bigger then any of them.
RDR is sub-HD on PS3 and really doesn't look anywhere near the games you've mentioned. I'm really scratching my head and wondering if you've played the PS3 exclusives you've mentioned. Every single one of them had me staring agape at the screen. They're nothing to scoff at. I also don't know what you mean by "ms." Milliseconds? That doesn't make any sense.Oh you played it on ps3?That version does not look better,thats for certain.Im saying that apart from GOW III ,KZ2 and UC2 not a SINGLE one of ps3 exclusives look more impressive then RDR.Infamous?MGS4?Ratchet and Clank?Hell no.And ms means milliseconds,meaning in a blink of the eye...no comparison...
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