no 360 game can beat the cars realisim and detail of GT5

>>no 360 game can beat the cars realisim and detail of GT5

I'm quite sure you meant to write 'detail' only and not realism. Because in realism Forza 2 seems to be winning hands down if GT HD is an indication of how GT5 will be.

[QUOTE="my_name_is_ron"][QUOTE="jessesalinas"]I dont play racing to crash either.:|

lets use your logic.

lets take dying out of gaming because you're not supposed to die :|

jessesalinas

now you're just being silly

damage is needed..even gamespot says this.:|

gamespot >>>>>you

and you just go along with everything gamespot says because they write reviews do you?

i guess we'll just have to disagree. or settle our difference on the racetrack! with damage off of course...

who needs damage when you have in car view not even looking at the car...

Arsenal325

Oh man, I almost fell out of my chair!:lol:

sorry, but where was i 'owned'? i seem to remember giving you a very reasonable agrument and you proved yourself, by conveniently including an extract from the gt4 review, that gamespot didn't call gran turismo 4 a bumper car sim. they merely said you can use that as a tactic to cheaply overtake people.

surely a bumper car sim would feature bumper cars and take place at some kind of fairground?

[QUOTE="Arsenal325"]

who needs damage when you have in car view not even looking at the car...

Spartan070

Oh man, I almost fell out of my chair!:lol:

excuse me for one second...

........:lol::lol::lol:

sorry, but where was i 'owned'? i seem to remember giving you a very reasonable agrument and you proved yourself, by conveniently including an extract from the gt4 review, that gamespot didn't call gran turismo 4 a bumper car sim. they merely said you can use that as a tactic to cheaply overtake people.

surely a bumper car sim would feature bumper cars and take place at some kind of fairground?

my_name_is_ron

i'm saying Gt is Owned.

[QUOTE="my_name_is_ron"]

sorry, but where was i 'owned'? i seem to remember giving you a very reasonable agrument and you proved yourself, by conveniently including an extract from the gt4 review, that gamespot didn't call gran turismo 4 a bumper car sim. they merely said you can use that as a tactic to cheaply overtake people.

surely a bumper car sim would feature bumper cars and take place at some kind of fairground?

jessesalinas

i'm saying Gt is Owned.

fair enough. your extremely long quote chain made it look like the ownedness was being pointed at me. so are we going to settle our differences on the track?

Is it just a left turn racing sim? If so, I don't care. Otherwise, so jealous.manningbowl135

Nah that is Nascar, they can only turn left, must be an inbred thing methinks :lol:

Seriously Forza 2 is a racing sim, Gran Turismo has always been a rally game with both dirt and road courses. I hope the customization and tuning features in GT5 are as good as they were in GT4.

[QUOTE="jessesalinas"][QUOTE="my_name_is_ron"]

sorry, but where was i 'owned'? i seem to remember giving you a very reasonable agrument and you proved yourself, by conveniently including an extract from the gt4 review, that gamespot didn't call gran turismo 4 a bumper car sim. they merely said you can use that as a tactic to cheaply overtake people.

surely a bumper car sim would feature bumper cars and take place at some kind of fairground?

my_name_is_ron

i'm saying Gt is Owned.

fair enough. your extremely long quote chain made it look like the ownedness was being pointed at me. so are we going to settle our differences on the track?

and i cant play you because im in the processs of moving right now so my 360 is packed up and ready to go...i wish i could though.

will definately add you to my friends listso we can race lata.8)

wow the fanboyisim is disgusting in this thread.... All you lemmings totally changed the subject to avoid it like the plauge.

GT5 = best looking sim racing game to date, and Forza 2 does not come close period, and the game is still in development, and can become even better. Lemming fanboy's in this thead = owned for trying to change the topic. And I agree with the TC, GT5 looks better than anything currently available on the 360, and prolly anything in the works, as do alot of the PS3 exclusives.

Lemmings have been in dmg control mode ever since E3, its getting sad now. :lol:

all forza's selling points focus on the things that have been lacking in gran turismo. ie damage, online, car painting, ferraris etc. but comparing gran turismo 4 and forza 2, gran turismo has more cars, tracks andraces which, at the end of the day, a racing game should be all about. the locales of gran turismo are much more beautiful than forza's dull surroundings.my_name_is_ron

I'm wondering if you're looking at the same game. Yes, the car models look better in GT5, but thetrack surroundingslook like total ass compared to Forza 2.

No damage physics, and thats realistic game to cows??

So if GT5 encourages sloppy driving, than cows must be the most dangerous drivers on the planet....lol:o (Scary)

Cows driving tactics 101:

*Dont worry, I'll just pass him up on the curve at 140 mph, and if I crash, nothing will happen to me or my car!*

Couldn't agree more....

btw...when does GT5 come out?

/thread.....

lol

wow the fanboyisim is disgusting in this thread.... All you lemmings totally changed the subject to avoid it like the plauge.

GT5 = best looking sim racing game to date, and Forza 2 does not come close period, and the game is still in development, and can become even better. Lemming fanboy's in this thead = owned for trying to change the topic. And I agree with the TC, GT5 looks better than anything currently available on the 360, and prolly anything in the works, as do alot of the PS3 exclusives.

Lemmings have been in dmg control mode ever since E3, its getting sad now. :lol:

shaggymcp

Actually a funny comment was from one cow saying Forza 2 is just an arcade racer ad GT is the best and most realistic racer there is. Only in real life, cars are not invincible,which kinda makes his claim a bit moot.

so it turns from a graphic post to a "bu bu bu bu forza gots teh damage!!111"

as usual when lemmings are losing they change the subject. go back to your arcade racer

hmmm... does forza 2 have 20 person online play and in car view? HAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!Arsenal325

It's 16 player online and I believe Forza 2 has in car view. I can't remember, as I never play it in that view. If you have 16 players online the game is going to have so much lag it isn't funny. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

[QUOTE="Arsenal325"]hmmm... does forza 2 have 20 person online play and in car view? HAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!blackace

It's 16 player online and I believe Forza 2 has in car view. I can't remember, as I never play it in that view. If you have 16 players online the game is going to have so much lag it isn't funny. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

Oh btw, Resistance has 40 players with no lag, Warhawk has 32 players with no lag, etc etc so you fail.

so it turns from a graphic post to a "bu bu bu bu forza gots teh damage!!111"

as usual when lemmings are losing they change the subject. go back to your arcade racer

Nokia_N95

It's not a graphics post, it's a details and realism post, like it says in the title.

Damage = realism.

[QUOTE="Ninja-Vox"]Graphically, perhaps. Gameplay wise, Forza 2 annihilated Gran Turismo.Nokia_N95

ill take a sim racer which takes skills to play like GT5, over a "lets put pictures on mah car!1!11" arcade game like forza2

You just lost the little credibility you had left right there. People will always argue which game has better physics between Forza and GT but the fact is they are pretty damn close and to call Forza 2 arcady is just downright stupid. Personally I feel that in Forza you feel the power/torque and the weight of your car alot more than you do in GT while GT has better traction models.

If you really cared about driving physics and driving feel you'd be playing GTR/2 right now, not GT.

Did you ever hear of Project Gothem Racing 4?

Cows got 2 good games coming:
LBP and MGS4

As i watch the GT4:mobile date perpetually slip away, i fear the same for GT5.

spring 2005

wow the fanboyisim is disgusting in this thread.... All you lemmings totally changed the subject to avoid it like the plauge.

GT5 = best looking sim racing game to date, and Forza 2 does not come close period, and the game is still in development, and can become even better. Lemming fanboy's in this thead = owned for trying to change the topic. And I agree with the TC, GT5 looks better than anything currently available on the 360, and prolly anything in the works, as do alot of the PS3 exclusives.

Lemmings have been in dmg control mode ever since E3, its getting sad now. :lol:

shaggymcp

Teh Irony :lol::lol:

[QUOTE="my_name_is_ron"][QUOTE="jessesalinas"]

No Damage Modeling = Bumper car sim with good graphics

Congrats Cows!:lol:

jessesalinas

not at all. no damage modelling = not such a massive loss when you consider the main aspect of the game is trying to avoid crashing. if you simply play forza to plough into opponents and watch bumpers fall off then you're not really playing the game as it was intended. crash damage becomes a frustrating chore after cooing at the first few collisions you experience

The Bad

• Racing opponent AI is as dumb as ever
• Lack of damage modeling encourages sloppy driving
• Musical soundtrack is hit or miss
• B-spec mode: huh?
• No online

"Bumper car racing, so called because you use the artificially intelligent opponent cars as "bumpers" to scrub off speed and help position your car around tight turns, is alive and well in GT4. Heading too fast into right-hand turn one at Tokyo Route 246? Simply dive to the inside of the car in front of you, and watch in amazement as you not only make it around the curve unscathed, but also likely gain a position doing so."

Even Gamespot called GT a bumper car sim..lolol

up next...GT5:lol:

yea and with comments like that in reviews im sure gt will have damage this time...well hopefully it does

[QUOTE="Arsenal325"]

[QUOTE="OpticalCanine"]Guess u missed the comparison between this n GT4, theres no difference except the 3D runoff burms!! lol at u TConewiththegame

oh god...more people in denial that GT5 is the best looking racing sim...

would you rather have the "best looking" or "best playing" racing sim?

hAVEN'T pLAYE gt5 yet

Autocross Graphics>Gran Turismo 5,Forza 2 Graphics!

Autocross

[QUOTE="my_name_is_ron"][QUOTE="jessesalinas"]

No Damage Modeling = Bumper car sim with good graphics

Congrats Cows!:lol:

jessesalinas

not at all. no damage modelling = not such a massive loss when you consider the main aspect of the game is trying to avoid crashing. if you simply play forza to plough into opponents and watch bumpers fall off then you're not really playing the game as it was intended. crash damage becomes a frustrating chore after cooing at the first few collisions you experience

The Bad

• Racing opponent AI is as dumb as ever
• Lack of damage modeling encourages sloppy driving
• Musical soundtrack is hit or miss
• B-spec mode: huh?
• No online

"Bumper car racing, so called because you use the artificially intelligent opponent cars as "bumpers" to scrub off speed and help position your car around tight turns, is alive and well in GT4. Heading too fast into right-hand turn one at Tokyo Route 246? Simply dive to the inside of the car in front of you, and watch in amazement as you not only make it around the curve unscathed, but also likely gain a position doing so."

Even Gamespot called GT a bumper car sim..lolol

up next...GT5:lol:

GS also called PDZ AAA.

I agree GT5 has the best graphics (in terms of car games) hands down. As long as there are no downgrades as GT:HD only had 1 car and GT5 will only have 16 i think? I believe the gameplay and tracks will be good as always like previous GT installments. The only down fall of GT5 is the backgrounds of the tracks which look 2D and of course damage. Some of you cows and the most ridiculous logic claiming damage is not needed because you are not suppose to intentionally crash well duh? accidents do happen! Cows saying that GT makes you a better driver so you won't crash. Seriously these fanboyish commentshave got to stop. Whether or not damage is or is not accurate is better than no damage at all. But just because GT might not have damage does not mean it will turn out to be a flop because I'm sure it will be great. So Cows just stop with the ignorate comments that damage is not needed because you are pro drivers who never crash!

[QUOTE="my_name_is_ron"]all forza's selling points focus on the things that have been lacking in gran turismo. ie damage, online, car painting, ferraris etc. but comparing gran turismo 4 and forza 2, gran turismo has more cars, tracks andraces which, at the end of the day, a racing game should be all about. the locales of gran turismo are much more beautiful than forza's dull surroundings.GrlGmr

I'm wondering if you're looking at the same game. Yes, the car models look better in GT5, but thetrack surroundingslook like total ass compared to Forza 2.

haha yeah right did u see some of the buildings in the city tracks...something forza 2 only has one of, the NY track which is crappy as hell anyways. forza 2 also has some really really *****y enviromental textures like grass and gravel, trees as well

[QUOTE="jessesalinas"][QUOTE="my_name_is_ron"][QUOTE="jessesalinas"]

No Damage Modeling = Bumper car sim with good graphics

Congrats Cows!:lol:

Blinblingthing

not at all. no damage modelling = not such a massive loss when you consider the main aspect of the game is trying to avoid crashing. if you simply play forza to plough into opponents and watch bumpers fall off then you're not really playing the game as it was intended. crash damage becomes a frustrating chore after cooing at the first few collisions you experience

The Bad

• Racing opponent AI is as dumb as ever
• Lack of damage modeling encourages sloppy driving
• Musical soundtrack is hit or miss
• B-spec mode: huh?
• No online

"Bumper car racing, so called because you use the artificially intelligent opponent cars as "bumpers" to scrub off speed and help position your car around tight turns, is alive and well in GT4. Heading too fast into right-hand turn one at Tokyo Route 246? Simply dive to the inside of the car in front of you, and watch in amazement as you not only make it around the curve unscathed, but also likely gain a position doing so."

Even Gamespot called GT a bumper car sim..lolol

up next...GT5:lol:

GS also called PDZ AAA.

PD is the King, No one can make a bumpercar sim like them.

:lol:

PD is the King, No one can make a bumpercar sim like them.

:lol:

Natural_Mystic

lol...that pic owns!!!:lol:

It should have been rated F= for Fake.

[QUOTE="HolyHandGrenad3"][QUOTE="Nokia_N95"]

[QUOTE="Ninja-Vox"]Graphically, perhaps. Gameplay wise, Forza 2 annihilated Gran Turismo.Arsenal325

ill take a sim racer which takes skills to play like GT5, over a "lets put pictures on mah car!1!11" arcade game like forza2

It is apparent you have never played Forza. There is no way that Forza is "arcadey" when compared to GT.

i went to my friends to played forza2 and and beat every match i played..its too easy... GT actually takes skill.. go play GT:HD.. see how well you drift..lol

Shut the assists off and play it on hard. Don't come in here acting like an expert on a game that you played at a friends house for thirty minutes.

okonewiththegame

[QUOTE="Ninja-Vox"]Graphically, perhaps. Gameplay wise, Forza 2 annihilated Gran Turismo.Nokia_N95

ill take a sim racer which takes skills to play like GT5, over a "lets put pictures on mah car!1!11" arcade game like forza2

PD is the King, No one can make a bumpercar sim like them.

:lol:

Natural_Mystic

[QUOTE="Natural_Mystic"]

PD is the King, No one can make a bumpercar sim like them.

:lol:

Art_424

lol...that pic owns!!!:lol:

It should have been rated F= for Fake.

[QUOTE="jessesalinas"][QUOTE="my_name_is_ron"][QUOTE="jessesalinas"]

No Damage Modeling = Bumper car sim with good graphics

Congrats Cows!:lol:

Blinblingthing

not at all. no damage modelling = not such a massive loss when you consider the main aspect of the game is trying to avoid crashing. if you simply play forza to plough into opponents and watch bumpers fall off then you're not really playing the game as it was intended. crash damage becomes a frustrating chore after cooing at the first few collisions you experience

The Bad

• Racing opponent AI is as dumb as ever
• Lack of damage modeling encourages sloppy driving
• Musical soundtrack is hit or miss
• B-spec mode: huh?
• No online

"Bumper car racing, so called because you use the artificially intelligent opponent cars as "bumpers" to scrub off speed and help position your car around tight turns, is alive and well in GT4. Heading too fast into right-hand turn one at Tokyo Route 246? Simply dive to the inside of the car in front of you, and watch in amazement as you not only make it around the curve unscathed, but also likely gain a position doing so."

Even Gamespot called GT a bumper car sim..lolol

up next...GT5:lol:

GS also called PDZ AAA.

Other than it being from the same website, that has absolutely nothing to do with anything he just mentioned.

so it turns from a graphic post to a "bu bu bu bu forza gots teh damage!!111"

as usual when lemmings are losing they change the subject. go back to your arcade racer

Nokia_N95

u can barely even tell real life from ingame cars

maybe when xbox1080 comes, youll be close to those graphics

Nokia_N95

GTR2 i got for pc ages ago will be far better than GT5, but its not really fair to compare sims(GTR) to arcade(GT)

Honestly, i don't know why console fanboys care so much about graphics, cows are bragging about GT5 looking like real life and all this other BS but all i can say is calm the **** down!! Not only is GT5 far from the most technically demanding game on a console it also cant be compared to pc games for the last few years and definitely not Crysis. And TC, Forza 2 owns GT5 when it comes to car realisim...michael098

rofl how can u say that wen gt5 is couple years from release? all uve seen was the gt 5 prolouge which is a gt5 hardly finished, i just cant believe u just said that forza 2 owns gt5 in realism this early LOLLLLL

Honestly, i don't know why console fanboys care so much about graphics, cows are bragging about GT5 looking like real life and all this other BS but all i can say is calm the **** down!! Not only is GT5 far from the most technically demanding game on a console it also cant be compared to pc games for the last few years and definitely not Crysis. And TC, Forza 2 owns GT5 when it comes to car realisim...michael098

and how can u compare gt 5 to crysis WTF