NO EXCUSES!!! The CELL has FLOPPED on ALL FRONTS!!!

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#1 Flim_Flam07
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The bottom line is the Cell has not taken off and become the next best CPU in the world and put into everything and taken over computers and so on.

Listen the Truth is the Cell is overly complicated to work with it has not made a dent in the PC market and being put into PC's and being the new thing like Sony had hope and planned.

It has caused the PS3 to suffer hugely in so many areas SALES, TIME, DELAYS, DEVELOPMENT etc etc etc.

And the FACT is already new Quad core CPU's are running circle around cell being faster and much more efficient to work with.

Sony listen very closely your CPU called Cell has FLOPPED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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#3 danielsmith2020
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The cell was never designed for use in home PC's, it can't be used in combination with any PC operating system without emulation. This thread is another example of idiotic fanboys who think they know what there talking about but have no idea.
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#4 Hewkii
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even if it was the best CPU, I doubt Intel and AMD (ok, maybe AMD) would adopt it, thus killing it anyway.

assuming what you're saying is true, anyway.

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#5 Flim_Flam07
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Jesus Christ, the imaturity continues on and on. :| Disgrace to humanity.angel-of-rain

Why is stating FACTS immature?:roll:

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#6 Vyse_The_Daring
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ITT: we POST every OTHER word IN caps!

I don't understand how a CPU can flop.

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#7 bobaban
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[QUOTE="angel-of-rain"]Jesus Christ, the imaturity continues on and on. :| Disgrace to humanity.Flim_Flam07

Why is stating FACTS immature?:roll:

When you know the meaning of a fact, come back.

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#8 Flim_Flam07
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The cell was never designed for use in home PC's, it can't be used in combination with any PC operating system without emulation. This thread is another example of idiotic fanboys who think they know what there talking about but have no idea.danielsmith2020

What are you talking about Sony was saying this was going to be put into PC's and be the best CPU blah blah blah. How have you forgottn this so easily?

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#10 tonythestudent
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Facts :lol:
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#11 angel-of-rain
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[QUOTE="angel-of-rain"]Jesus Christ, the imaturity continues on and on. :| Disgrace to humanity.Flim_Flam07

Why is stating FACTS immature?:roll:

I don't give a damn about the PS3, I think it doesn't match up to 360. The only thing you're trying to do is irritate the PS3 fans.
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#13 Arjdagr8
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apparently when people write in CAPS it makes their argument solid as stone
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#14 exiledsnake
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isnt that good?? the more flops it has the better it is?
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#15 NitaraPwnzU
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[QUOTE="Flim_Flam07"]

[QUOTE="angel-of-rain"]Jesus Christ, the imaturity continues on and on. :| Disgrace to humanity.angel-of-rain

Why is stating FACTS immature?:roll:

I don't give a damn about the PS3, I think it doesn't match up to 360. The only thing you're trying to do is irritate the PS3 fans.

In case you didn't realize this is System Wars...LMAO.. Go play in the kiddie zone if you can't take people argueing about consoles!!

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#16 NitaraPwnzU
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The cell is a FLOP.. Sony knows it!!!
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#17 angel-of-rain
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[QUOTE="angel-of-rain"][QUOTE="Flim_Flam07"]

[QUOTE="angel-of-rain"]Jesus Christ, the imaturity continues on and on. :| Disgrace to humanity.NitaraPwnzU

Why is stating FACTS immature?:roll:

I don't give a damn about the PS3, I think it doesn't match up to 360. The only thing you're trying to do is irritate the PS3 fans.

In case you didn't realize this is System Wars...LMAO.. Go play in the kiddie zone if you can't take people argueing about consoles!!

Kiddie zone? Speak for yourself. You and all the imature trolling users should make your way back to pre-school.
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#18 tonythestudent
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The cell is a FLOP.. Sony knows it!!!NitaraPwnzU

Fact, you're a bandodger...

See what i did there ;)

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#19 rdo
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The cell was never designed for use in home PC's, it can't be used in combination with any PC operating system without emulation. This thread is another example of idiotic fanboys who think they know what there talking about but have no idea.danielsmith2020
really? explain sony claiming linux running on the ps3? explain ken calling it a cuper computer? explain yellow dog linux, do you think the ps3 is running an a pentium or something?
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#20 Nike_Air
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The cell was never really designed for Home PCs.

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#21 -wii60-
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I don't like the ps3 but please shut up, thanks to u this thread will get like 100 pages of fanboys killing each other.
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#22 Tnasty11
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The cell was never really designed for Home PCs.

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#25 Flim_Flam07
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[QUOTE="danielsmith2020"]The cell was never designed for use in home PC's, it can't be used in combination with any PC operating system without emulation. This thread is another example of idiotic fanboys who think they know what there talking about but have no idea.rdo
really? explain sony claiming linux running on the ps3? explain ken calling it a cuper computer? explain yellow dog linux, do you think the ps3 is running an a pentium or something?

Exactly Sony's plan was for this Chip to take over and do it all media video running OS broadband the works and they just thought the world was going to bow down to the mighty FLOP CELL.:lol:

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#26 numba1234
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I don't like the ps3 but please shut up, thanks to u this thread will get like 100 pages of fanboys killing each other.-wii60-
I hate fanboy wars but, it is awesome to see two fanboy factions that know nothing about what they are talking about fight over it. It doesn't matter that the cell isn't the most powerful cpu, technology always improves, but really doesn't matter unless you could buy the other cpu. The cell is as of now the most powerful cpu in a console, which is the only thing that matters. I never heard a comparision between the xenon, and the cell for which cpu is more powerful.
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#27 highlander0659
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Don't get ahead of yourself. New tech always needs time to work itself into things. The Cell is still currently the best CPU on the market.

Theres not a personal computer on the planet that can touch Cell in any area. Be it memory management, parallel computing, downright speed, whatever. Even the new, highly generic and underwhelming multi-core Intel and AMD processors pale in comparison to Cells capabilities.

Now that the final devkits are out and Cell / RSX are working through the incredibly fast and efficient FlexIO from Rambus those PC's they are using, no matter what they are, aren't going to be able to duplicate what a PS3 will be capable of.

This is why I've been saying for awhile that the PS3 will be able to keep pace with the PC's for years to come without problem. Its just superior in speed, precision, cycle losses being minimized, mathematic processing, physics, geometry, shaders, whatever. Maybe in 4 or 5 years a PC will exist that will make the PS3 port have to be downgraded in a way, but until then its highly doubtful.

When you add the system bandwidth, memory bandwidth, SPE local storage cycles being so incredibly low per miss, the highly parallized structure of Cell itself, the RSX's shader capabilities, Cells shader capabilities and rendering capabilities, Blu-Ray and the standard HDD .... well .... lemme just put it this way. The games showcased for the PS3 right now probably aren't even really using 5% of the systems resources or potential.

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#28 Flim_Flam07
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[QUOTE="rdo"][QUOTE="danielsmith2020"]The cell was never designed for use in home PC's, it can't be used in combination with any PC operating system without emulation. This thread is another example of idiotic fanboys who think they know what there talking about but have no idea.Flim_Flam07

really? explain sony claiming linux running on the ps3? explain ken calling it a cuper computer? explain yellow dog linux, do you think the ps3 is running an a pentium or something?

Exactly Sony's plan was for this Chip to take over and do it all media video running OS broadband the works and they just thought the world was going to bow down to the mighty FLOP CELL.:lol:

Why do you think Crazy Ken got SH?ZZZ CANNED becuase he went crazy and ran Sony into the mud

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#29 angel-of-rain
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This is what this forum was set up for.. But a person of your intelligence surely knows that already.. OH SNAP.. Guess not !!!

I guess I over estimated the intelligence part .. My Bad !!!:D

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:lol: I didn't get one thing you said, it doesn't make sense.
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#30 NitaraPwnzU
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[QUOTE="NitaraPwnzU"]

This is what this forum was set up for.. But a person of your intelligence surely knows that already.. OH SNAP.. Guess not !!!

I guess I over estimated the intelligence part .. My Bad !!!:D

angel-of-rain

:lol: I didn't get one thing you said, it doesn't make sense.

LOL I hear they make a speak and spell and hooked on phonics.. Shall I link it for you? :D

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#32 angel-of-rain
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[QUOTE="angel-of-rain"][QUOTE="NitaraPwnzU"]

This is what this forum was set up for.. But a person of your intelligence surely knows that already.. OH SNAP.. Guess not !!!

I guess I over estimated the intelligence part .. My Bad !!!:D

NitaraPwnzU

:lol: I didn't get one thing you said, it doesn't make sense.

LOL I hear they make a speak and spell and hooked on phonics.. Shall I link it for you? :D

What is this, internet talk? Quit spittin' out jibberish.
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#33 angel-of-rain
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[QUOTE="highlander0659"]

Don't get ahead of yourself. New tech always needs time to work itself into things. The Cell is still currently the best CPU on the market.

Theres not a personal computer on the planet that can touch Cell in any area. Be it memory management, parallel computing, downright speed, whatever. Even the new, highly generic and underwhelming multi-core Intel and AMD processors pale in comparison to Cells capabilities.

Now that the final devkits are out and Cell / RSX are working through the incredibly fast and efficient FlexIO from Rambus those PC's they are using, no matter what they are, aren't going to be able to duplicate what a PS3 will be capable of.

This is why I've been saying for awhile that the PS3 will be able to keep pace with the PC's for years to come without problem. Its just superior in speed, precision, cycle losses being minimized, mathematic processing, physics, geometry, shaders, whatever. Maybe in 4 or 5 years a PC will exist that will make the PS3 port have to be downgraded in a way, but until then its highly doubtful.

When you add the system bandwidth, memory bandwidth, SPE local storage cycles being so incredibly low per miss, the highly parallized structure of Cell itself, the RSX's shader capabilities, Cells shader capabilities and rendering capabilities, Blu-Ray and the standard HDD .... well .... lemme just put it this way. The games showcased for the PS3 right now probably aren't even really using 5% of the systems resources or potential.

Flim_Flam07

Right i see you still sucking on the Sony BS TiiiiiT Anyway Yeah frame rate issues low res texture issues downgraded graphics all say other on PS3 right now.

How come that game DiRT scored higher on PS3 then?
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Don't get ahead of yourself. New tech always needs time to work itself into things. The Cell is still currently the best CPU on the market.

Theres not a personal computer on the planet that can touch Cell in any area. Be it memory management, parallel computing, downright speed, whatever. Even the new, highly generic and underwhelming multi-core Intel and AMD processors pale in comparison to Cells capabilities.

Now that the final devkits are out and Cell / RSX are working through the incredibly fast and efficient FlexIO from Rambus those PC's they are using, no matter what they are, aren't going to be able to duplicate what a PS3 will be capable of.

This is why I've been saying for awhile that the PS3 will be able to keep pace with the PC's for years to come without problem. Its just superior in speed, precision, cycle losses being minimized, mathematic processing, physics, geometry, shaders, whatever. Maybe in 4 or 5 years a PC will exist that will make the PS3 port have to be downgraded in a way, but until then its highly doubtful.

When you add the system bandwidth, memory bandwidth, SPE local storage cycles being so incredibly low per miss, the highly parallized structure of Cell itself, the RSX's shader capabilities, Cells shader capabilities and rendering capabilities, Blu-Ray and the standard HDD .... well .... lemme just put it this way. The games showcased for the PS3 right now probably aren't even really using 5% of the systems resources or potential.

highlander0659
Wow .... Just wow. You have bought into yhe sell hype big huh?
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#36 angel-of-rain
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[QUOTE="angel-of-rain"][QUOTE="NitaraPwnzU"][QUOTE="angel-of-rain"][QUOTE="NitaraPwnzU"]

This is what this forum was set up for.. But a person of your intelligence surely knows that already.. OH SNAP.. Guess not !!!

I guess I over estimated the intelligence part .. My Bad !!!:D

NitaraPwnzU

:lol: I didn't get one thing you said, it doesn't make sense.

LOL I hear they make a speak and spell and hooked on phonics.. Shall I link it for you? :D

What is this, internet talk? Quit spittin' out jibberish.

No it is called sommon sense.. "System Wars".. No this is not the teletubby zone where everyone gets along...

I now just wasted 1 minute of my life on an unintelligent poster.. YOU WON :D

Sommon sense? You're over 30 years old and you can't spell, now, I think you need to make the trip over to the "Teletubby Zone". :lol:
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#38 vaderhater
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[QUOTE="Flim_Flam07"][QUOTE="highlander0659"]

Don't get ahead of yourself. New tech always needs time to work itself into things. The Cell is still currently the best CPU on the market.

Theres not a personal computer on the planet that can touch Cell in any area. Be it memory management, parallel computing, downright speed, whatever. Even the new, highly generic and underwhelming multi-core Intel and AMD processors pale in comparison to Cells capabilities.

Now that the final devkits are out and Cell / RSX are working through the incredibly fast and efficient FlexIO from Rambus those PC's they are using, no matter what they are, aren't going to be able to duplicate what a PS3 will be capable of.

This is why I've been saying for awhile that the PS3 will be able to keep pace with the PC's for years to come without problem. Its just superior in speed, precision, cycle losses being minimized, mathematic processing, physics, geometry, shaders, whatever. Maybe in 4 or 5 years a PC will exist that will make the PS3 port have to be downgraded in a way, but until then its highly doubtful.

When you add the system bandwidth, memory bandwidth, SPE local storage cycles being so incredibly low per miss, the highly parallized structure of Cell itself, the RSX's shader capabilities, Cells shader capabilities and rendering capabilities, Blu-Ray and the standard HDD .... well .... lemme just put it this way. The games showcased for the PS3 right now probably aren't even really using 5% of the systems resources or potential.

angel-of-rain

Right i see you still sucking on the Sony BS TiiiiiT Anyway Yeah frame rate issues low res texture issues downgraded graphics all say other on PS3 right now.

How come that game DiRT scored higher on PS3 then?

More dev time?
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#39 Flim_Flam07
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[QUOTE="Flim_Flam07"][QUOTE="highlander0659"]

Don't get ahead of yourself. New tech always needs time to work itself into things. The Cell is still currently the best CPU on the market.

Theres not a personal computer on the planet that can touch Cell in any area. Be it memory management, parallel computing, downright speed, whatever. Even the new, highly generic and underwhelming multi-core Intel and AMD processors pale in comparison to Cells capabilities.

Now that the final devkits are out and Cell / RSX are working through the incredibly fast and efficient FlexIO from Rambus those PC's they are using, no matter what they are, aren't going to be able to duplicate what a PS3 will be capable of.

This is why I've been saying for awhile that the PS3 will be able to keep pace with the PC's for years to come without problem. Its just superior in speed, precision, cycle losses being minimized, mathematic processing, physics, geometry, shaders, whatever. Maybe in 4 or 5 years a PC will exist that will make the PS3 port have to be downgraded in a way, but until then its highly doubtful.

When you add the system bandwidth, memory bandwidth, SPE local storage cycles being so incredibly low per miss, the highly parallized structure of Cell itself, the RSX's shader capabilities, Cells shader capabilities and rendering capabilities, Blu-Ray and the standard HDD .... well .... lemme just put it this way. The games showcased for the PS3 right now probably aren't even really using 5% of the systems resources or potential.

angel-of-rain

Right i see you still sucking on the Sony BS TiiiiiT Anyway Yeah frame rate issues low res texture issues downgraded graphics all say other on PS3 right now.

How come that game DiRT scored higher on PS3 then?

Dirt:lol: On 3monthlaterstation 3:lol:

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#40 e20sm0k3
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worthless thread. 360 flopped more hardware wise then any console ever

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#41 Vaizard34
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Here's the FACTS for foolish fanboys. Not only is the Cell the best around. The PS3's hardware overall unrinates on the competition.

The cell is clocked at 3.2GHz and has 9 cores (one control processor and 8 SPEs). You cant compair GHz to GHZ, because the processors are two completely different designs. In that case the PS3 and 360 would be the same. It just doesn't work like that. First of all, the cell uses pure vector processors which are alot more efficient than the 360s general purpose G5 derivatives, so they can do more at a lower clock. Secondly, there are 8 of them(2 reserved). Each SPE has its own dedicated pool of memory instead of cache. there is NO system memory. Which means that there is also no lag time between the processor and memory, speeding up the whole system. Using dedicated RAM instead of cache also helps to make the processor run closer to its 'paper' speeds by getting rid of innefficiencies inherent in cache. 4th it has INSANE system bandwidth. This means that it can interact with the other parts with less lag time and more information can be transmitted between them. 5th, as a vector processor it can also render graphics. meaning it can help the gpu do its job if it has some free time. 6th, blueray can hold more data and transfer that data faster than dvd and hd dvd. they are also researching multi layer discs that currently hold 100GB. In other words the PS3 PWNs all.

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#42 NitaraPwnzU
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Here's the FACTS for foolish fanboys. Not only is the Cell the best around. The PS3's hardware overall unrinates on the competition.

The cell is clocked at 3.2GHz and has 9 cores (one control processor and 8 SPEs). You cant compair GHz to GHZ, because the processors are two completely different designs. In that case the PS3 and 360 would be the same. It just doesn't work like that. First of all, the cell uses pure vector processors which are alot more efficient than the 360s general purpose G5 derivatives, so they can do more at a lower clock. Secondly, there are 8 of them(2 reserved). Each SPE has its own dedicated pool of memory instead of cache. there is NO system memory. Which means that there is also no lag time between the processor and memory, speeding up the whole system. Using dedicated RAM instead of cache also helps to make the processor run closer to its 'paper' speeds by getting rid of innefficiencies inherent in cache. 4th it has INSANE system bandwidth. This means that it can interact with the other parts with less lag time and more information can be transmitted between them. 5th, as a vector processor it can also render graphics. meaning it can help the gpu do its job if it has some free time. 6th, blueray can hold more data and transfer that data faster than dvd and hd dvd. they are also researching multi layer discs that currently hold 100GB. In other words the PS3 PWNs all.

Vaizard34

It can do all those things but it still can't produce a AAA game :D

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#43 Hewkii
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Here's the FACTS for foolish fanboys. Not only is the Cell the best around. The PS3's hardware overall unrinates on the competition.

The cell is clocked at 3.2GHz and has 9 cores (one control processor and 8 SPEs). You cant compair GHz to GHZ, because the processors are two completely different designs. In that case the PS3 and 360 would be the same. It just doesn't work like that. First of all, the cell uses pure vector processors which are alot more efficient than the 360s general purpose G5 derivatives, so they can do more at a lower clock. Secondly, there are 8 of them(2 reserved). Each SPE has its own dedicated pool of memory instead of cache. there is NO system memory. Which means that there is also no lag time between the processor and memory, speeding up the whole system. Using dedicated RAM instead of cache also helps to make the processor run closer to its 'paper' speeds by getting rid of innefficiencies inherent in cache. 4th it has INSANE system bandwidth. This means that it can interact with the other parts with less lag time and more information can be transmitted between them. 5th, as a vector processor it can also render graphics. meaning it can help the gpu do its job if it has some free time. 6th, blueray can hold more data and transfer that data faster than dvd and hd dvd. they are also researching multi layer discs that currently hold 100GB. In other words the PS3 PWNs all.

Vaizard34

I notice you scarcely mentioned graphics, and even then did not really elaborate on the GPU.

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#44 angel-of-rain
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Excuse me for not having to use spell check for all my posts.. But you sir are the most idiotic poster of them all.. It was corrected way before you even posted your response..

LOL you actually looked at my profile? ROFLMAO!!!! Stalker !!!:D

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:lol: Sir? Stalker? Spell Check? Hahaha!
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#45 gamerchris810
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worthless thread. 360 flopped more hardware wise then any console ever

e20sm0k3

You are actually right in a way, with the 30% failures and all.

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#46 nicenator
Member since 2005 • 1938 Posts

Originally, system wars, as far as i can tell, used to be about the discussion of consoles that were competing in the market.

Now correct me if im wrong, but 90% of the threads here now consist of "face it!" or "(insert name here) has flopped! Admit it!"

People like the TC leave no room for actual discussion, because they are so blinded by the fact that they believe there opinion is the correct one and everyone should bow down to it.

Well done to all the elitists on here for taking the fun and interestout of this forum.

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#47 NitaraPwnzU
Member since 2007 • 1470 Posts
[QUOTE="NitaraPwnzU"]Excuse me for not having to use spell check for all my posts.. But you sir are the most idiotic poster of them all.. It was corrected way before you even posted your response..

LOL you actually looked at my profile? ROFLMAO!!!! Stalker !!!:D

angel-of-rain

:lol: Sir? Stalker? Spell Check? Hahaha!

Awww I guess I used to many big words for you :D

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#48 numba1234
Member since 2007 • 3561 Posts

Originally, system wars, as far as i can tell, used to be about the discussion of consoles that were competing in the market.

Now correct me if im wrong, but 90% of the threads here now consist of "face it!" or "(insert name here) has flopped! Admit it!"

People like the TC leave no room for actual discussion, because they are so blinded by the fact that they believe there opinion is the correct one and everyone should bow down to it.

Well done to all the elitists on here for taking the fun and interestout of this forum.

nicenator
Nah, others is "why bother buy a ps3/xbox 360/wii". That is the one I see most here.
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#49 _AsasN_
Member since 2003 • 3646 Posts

[QUOTE="angel-of-rain"]Jesus Christ, the imaturity continues on and on. :| Disgrace to humanity.Flim_Flam07

Why is stating FACTS immature?:roll:



Probably because it was a fanboy rant with no facts.
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#50 angel-of-rain
Member since 2007 • 412 Posts
[QUOTE="angel-of-rain"][QUOTE="NitaraPwnzU"]Excuse me for not having to use spell check for all my posts.. But you sir are the most idiotic poster of them all.. It was corrected way before you even posted your response..

LOL you actually looked at my profile? ROFLMAO!!!! Stalker !!!:D

NitaraPwnzU

:lol: Sir? Stalker? Spell Check? Hahaha!

Awww I guess I used to many big words for you :D

Nope, just pointing out your massive mistakes except for Spell Check. I'll replace that one with the most idiotic poster. :lol: