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#151 peacenutman
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[QUOTE="peacenutman"][QUOTE="bedram793"][QUOTE="lowe0"]

[QUOTE="blackdreamhunk"] You know the best games run on better hardware!Puckhog04

Not necessarily. In fact, in the past few years, I really haven't seen much of a correlation at all. Look at Metroid Prime 3, a great game that's running on seriously weak hardware. Better hardware can make a good game better, but a great game is a great game, regardless of what it's running on.

I don't see programing done on console do I blackdreamhunk
Have you ever written a line of code in your life? I'm a developer, so don't try to bull**** me... I'll know.

It's because they are rated usually by different people, usually by a person that mostly plays on that system. And 360 players find games like Halo and Gears of War great, while PC gamers actually expect more from a game. Truth is, PC gamers expect more from a game because there just has been so many great games on PC.

bedram793

Not buying it. I was a PC gamer for years, but Halo and Gears of War are two of my favorite games. My standards and taste in games didn't just disappear one morning. I'm sure you'd like to think you're a discriminating consumer of games who's smarter than the masses, but here's a newsflash: console gamers aren't a bunch of knuckledragging cretins. You'll find plenty of discerning gamers on consoles too.


how come none of the lems, cows and sheep ever back you up in these ridiculous threads jason???

i wonder...kidcool189
I'm going with this one. You know how we complain that a few people's ridiculous arguments make consolites look bad? Yeah, he's one of them.

Not buying it? Do I care? I'm saying, I used to actually like games like Halo and Gears of War. After playing games on my PC, yes my standards and taste for games really did change. I'm not saying it did over one morning (don't put words in my mouth), but I saw how better games on PC are.

And who said anything about console gamers being idiots? I used to be a console gamer myself, and I didn't look at myself as an idiot. Once again, stop putting words in my mouth.

Finally, I don't think myself as a discriminating consumer of games who is smarter than the masses (actually that last part I do, but not because I'm a PC gamer). Once AGAIN, don't put words in my mouth and don't act like a **** **** who thinks he knows everything.

Also, I'm sure I'll find plenty of discerning gamers on consoles too, never said I won't. Once AGAIN, don't put words in my mouth.

And if you seriously think of Halo and Gears of War as two of your favorite games, then good for you. I find GoW a very linear shooter and repetitive and short. I find Halo as a generic shooter, with nothing truly special about it. It's obvious you haven't played games like Crysis, Mafia, Crysis Warhead, Max Payne 1 and 2, Call of Duty (the first one), Fallout 1 and 2, Dues Ex, Sins of a Solar Empire, World in Conflict, Company of Heroes, StarCraft, The Witcher, Diablo 1 and 2, Far Cry 1, STALKER, etc. I could mention many more.

Well if you gonna use PC games back from the 90s, so can consolites, mario, sonic, golden axe, street fighter 2, street of rage, zelda, super metroid, castlevania, and the lists go on.

I mean thats face it, whenever we see hypes or advertisments, they are all console games. This gen alone consoles have more AAA and AA then PC (from Nov 05 till now).

Console games nowadays are just more appealing to the audiences than PC.

Your response fails on so many levels (including your last statement that is apparently based on nothing but your opinion) but i'll just show one.

http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=p7pcq78sddbXfN0A-LjKWEA

PC: AAA Exclusive = 10. AA exclusive = 59.

PS3: AAA Exclusive = 1 (counting LBP). AA exclusive = 4.

360: AAA exclusive = 4. AA exclusive = 12.

Wii: AAA exclusive = 4. AA exclusive = 7.

So, once again, PC wins by over double the amount in terms of AAA exclusives and AA exclusives. And this list if from Dec. of 05' and on to now. Don't state things that are obvious lies.

Edit: Didn't mean to resurrect such a dead thread that i abandoned earlier due to college courses but, heh, oh well. Can't believe this thread was still up.

Here's where that spread sheet fails:

1.Because PC doesn't have generations like consoles, the list includes games like Prince of Persia, Marc Ecko's Getting Up, Dreamfall: The Longest Journey, etc are clearly last-gen, because their console counterpart are on PS2/Xbox. Those games shouldn't even be on the list.

2. That list contains TONs of expansions, which is a cheap way for hermits to claim more AAA or AA, which is essentially just add-ons, while consoles dont have expansion and thier add-ons dont get reviewed (Warhawk).

3. The list needs a update, supreme commander and world in conflict are not exclusive anymore, they are coming to X360.

So next time hermits before using that spreadsheet, think.

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Here's where that spread sheet fails:

1.Because PC doesn't have generations like consoles, the list includes games like Prince of Persia, Marc Ecko's Getting Up, Dreamfall: The Longest Journey, etc are clearly last-gen, because their console counterpart are on PS2/Xbox. Those games shouldn't even be on the list.

2. That list contains TONs of expansions, which is a cheap way for hermits to claim more AAA or AA, which is essentially just add-ons, while consoles dont have expansion and thier add-ons dont get reviewed (Warhawk).

3. The list needs a update, supreme commander and world in conflict are not exclusive anymore, they are coming to X360.

So next time hermits before using that spreadsheet, think.

peacenutman

here's why you fail

1. The spreadsheet is recorded at teh start of every console gen

2. Who cares? GT:Prologue got reviewed here. Expansion still count

3. Sure, but wic isn't on the 360 yet so you can leave it exclusive.

So next time before you post.. think.

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#153 AdrianWerner
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2. That list contains TONs of expansions, which is a cheap way for hermits to claim more AAA or AA, which is essentially just add-ons, while consoles dont have expansion and thier add-ons dont get reviewed (Warhawk).

peacenutman
A lot of those expansions are stand alone and they offer far more new content than a lot of console sequels like GRAW2 or every annual sport series
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#154 peacenutman
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[QUOTE="peacenutman"]

Here's where that spread sheet fails:

1.Because PC doesn't have generations like consoles, the list includes games like Prince of Persia, Marc Ecko's Getting Up, Dreamfall: The Longest Journey, etc are clearly last-gen, because their console counterpart are on PS2/Xbox. Those games shouldn't even be on the list.

2. That list contains TONs of expansions, which is a cheap way for hermits to claim more AAA or AA, which is essentially just add-ons, while consoles dont have expansion and thier add-ons dont get reviewed (Warhawk).

3. The list needs a update, supreme commander and world in conflict are not exclusive anymore, they are coming to X360.

So next time hermits before using that spreadsheet, think.

Espada12

here's why you fail

1. The spreadsheet is recorded at teh start of every console gen

2. Who cares? GT:Prologue got reviewed here. Expansion still count

3. Sure, but wic isn't on the 360 yet so you can leave it exclusive.

So next time before you post.. think.

1. Still doesn't change the fact Pop and Dreamfall are last-gen.

2. Yes, one console "expansion" compare to hundreds of PC expansions.

3. Then GTA 4, Dead Space are considered console exclusives.

On a side note, we should compare PC exclusives vs console exclusives and we'll see how it fares, and don't give me "oh 3 vs 1" because no 2 gamers have the same PC and PC have no generations like consoles, so it's only fair. Games like Condemned 2, Soul Calibur 4, Bad Company, and even Megaman 9 are overlooked because they are console multiplat, despite the fact that hermits can't play them.

Actaully forget it, no matter what I say, gamers who grow up with PC will always think PC is the best, and gamers who grow up with console(s) will always think consoles are the best.

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#155 AdrianWerner
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3. Then GTA 4, Dead Space are considered console exclusives.

peacenutman
Huh...I bought PC Dead Space a week ago and I didn't know GTA4 was canceled on PC, like WiC was on consoles
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#156 thesmiter
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[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]If anything there will be MORE PC exclusives in the future, they just will be of the kind that doesn't need the latest Nvidia GPU to run.Espada12

More exclusives? I highly doubt that. The money is in consoles now adays. Otherwise John Carmack wouldn't bother having to struggle to get RAGE to work on 360. The PC is the best platform but not ideal anymore. And I would have to work save for almost a year to affoard a new computer.

John Carmack want's it to work on the 360 because it's more money for them. Also if you have to save for a year to buy a comp. Either you have very finiacially strapped or need to get a job.

uh, college students and high-school aged kids make up a lot of gamers, you know. i have to pay for college first, an awesome pc will be when i have a degree, a house, a car, and can keep up mortgage payments easily.

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#157 Espada12
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[QUOTE="Espada12"][QUOTE="peacenutman"]

Here's where that spread sheet fails:

1.Because PC doesn't have generations like consoles, the list includes games like Prince of Persia, Marc Ecko's Getting Up, Dreamfall: The Longest Journey, etc are clearly last-gen, because their console counterpart are on PS2/Xbox. Those games shouldn't even be on the list.

2. That list contains TONs of expansions, which is a cheap way for hermits to claim more AAA or AA, which is essentially just add-ons, while consoles dont have expansion and thier add-ons dont get reviewed (Warhawk).

3. The list needs a update, supreme commander and world in conflict are not exclusive anymore, they are coming to X360.

So next time hermits before using that spreadsheet, think.

peacenutman

here's why you fail

1. The spreadsheet is recorded at teh start of every console gen

2. Who cares? GT:Prologue got reviewed here. Expansion still count

3. Sure, but wic isn't on the 360 yet so you can leave it exclusive.

So next time before you post.. think.

1. Still doesn't change the fact Pop and Dreamfall are last-gen.

2. Yes, one console "expansion" compare to hundreds of PC expansions.

3. Then GTA 4, Dead Space are considered console exclusives.

On a side note, we should compare PC exclusives vs console exclusives and we'll see how it fares, and don't give me "oh 3 vs 1" because no 2 gamers have the same PC and PC have no generations like consoles, so it's only fair. Games like Condemned 2, Soul Calibur 4, Bad Company, and even Megaman 9 are overlooked because they are console multiplat, despite the fact that hermits can't play them.

Actaully forget it, no matter what I say, gamers who grow up with PC will always think PC is the best, and gamers who grow up with console(s) will always think consoles are the best.

Console exclusive? seriosuly? Dead space is also out for PC... , reason I said maybe with WIC because it isn't certain to appear on teh 360, just like all those MMos that get announced for it. And yes 3vs1 isn't fair because not ever gamer has all 3 consoles:| , wow did you mention bad company? For REAL??, seriously search the word before (bad company) into the gamespot search engine and see what you find Not to mention there are tons of PC games that don't even get reviewed far less looked at, so I don't see what point you are trying to make.

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#158 Espada12
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[QUOTE="Espada12"][QUOTE="Gamingcucumber"]

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]If anything there will be MORE PC exclusives in the future, they just will be of the kind that doesn't need the latest Nvidia GPU to run.thesmiter

More exclusives? I highly doubt that. The money is in consoles now adays. Otherwise John Carmack wouldn't bother having to struggle to get RAGE to work on 360. The PC is the best platform but not ideal anymore. And I would have to work save for almost a year to affoard a new computer.

John Carmack want's it to work on the 360 because it's more money for them. Also if you have to save for a year to buy a comp. Either you have very finiacially strapped or need to get a job.

uh, college students and high-school aged kids make up a lot of gamers, you know. i have to pay for college first, an awesome pc will be when i have a degree, a house, a car, and can keep up mortgage payments easily.

I swear people are only reading what they want to see. here I'll bold it.

Also if you have to save for a year to buy a comp. Either you have very finiacially strapped or need to get a job.

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#159 AdrianWerner
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The money is in consoles now adays.

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Only for truly big devs. For smaller ones money is in PCgaming nowadays
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#160 Bebi_vegeta
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[QUOTE="Espada12"][QUOTE="peacenutman"]

Here's where that spread sheet fails:

1.Because PC doesn't have generations like consoles, the list includes games like Prince of Persia, Marc Ecko's Getting Up, Dreamfall: The Longest Journey, etc are clearly last-gen, because their console counterpart are on PS2/Xbox. Those games shouldn't even be on the list.

2. That list contains TONs of expansions, which is a cheap way for hermits to claim more AAA or AA, which is essentially just add-ons, while consoles dont have expansion and thier add-ons dont get reviewed (Warhawk).

3. The list needs a update, supreme commander and world in conflict are not exclusive anymore, they are coming to X360.

So next time hermits before using that spreadsheet, think.

peacenutman

here's why you fail

1. The spreadsheet is recorded at teh start of every console gen

2. Who cares? GT:Prologue got reviewed here. Expansion still count

3. Sure, but wic isn't on the 360 yet so you can leave it exclusive.

So next time before you post.. think.

1. Still doesn't change the fact Pop and Dreamfall are last-gen.

2. Yes, one console "expansion" compare to hundreds of PC expansions.

3. Then GTA 4, Dead Space are considered console exclusives.

On a side note, we should compare PC exclusives vs console exclusives and we'll see how it fares, and don't give me "oh 3 vs 1" because no 2 gamers have the same PC and PC have no generations like consoles, so it's only fair. Games like Condemned 2, Soul Calibur 4, Bad Company, and even Megaman 9 are overlooked because they are console multiplat, despite the fact that hermits can't play them.

Actaully forget it, no matter what I say, gamers who grow up with PC will always think PC is the best, and gamers who grow up with console(s) will always think consoles are the best.

1. 2 games, that's it?

2. Expansions don't count... many sequal games should count as expansions.

3. And then, they still are until they get released on another system.

On a side note, we can't compare console to PC... there's no gaming system that can play a PS3/X360/Wii games on one unique console.

I was a console gamer, and guess what, I say PC is better... and so can others and vice versa.

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#161 Bebi_vegeta
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[QUOTE="Espada12"][QUOTE="Gamingcucumber"]

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]If anything there will be MORE PC exclusives in the future, they just will be of the kind that doesn't need the latest Nvidia GPU to run.thesmiter

More exclusives? I highly doubt that. The money is in consoles now adays. Otherwise John Carmack wouldn't bother having to struggle to get RAGE to work on 360. The PC is the best platform but not ideal anymore. And I would have to work save for almost a year to affoard a new computer.

John Carmack want's it to work on the 360 because it's more money for them. Also if you have to save for a year to buy a comp. Either you have very finiacially strapped or need to get a job.

uh, college students and high-school aged kids make up a lot of gamers, you know. i have to pay for college first, an awesome pc will be when i have a degree, a house, a car, and can keep up mortgage payments easily.

I think you over estimate the cost of a PC.

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#162 thesmiter
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[QUOTE="thesmiter"][QUOTE="Espada12"][QUOTE="Gamingcucumber"]

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]If anything there will be MORE PC exclusives in the future, they just will be of the kind that doesn't need the latest Nvidia GPU to run.Bebi_vegeta

More exclusives? I highly doubt that. The money is in consoles now adays. Otherwise John Carmack wouldn't bother having to struggle to get RAGE to work on 360. The PC is the best platform but not ideal anymore. And I would have to work save for almost a year to affoard a new computer.

John Carmack want's it to work on the 360 because it's more money for them. Also if you have to save for a year to buy a comp. Either you have very finiacially strapped or need to get a job.

uh, college students and high-school aged kids make up a lot of gamers, you know. i have to pay for college first, an awesome pc will be when i have a degree, a house, a car, and can keep up mortgage payments easily.

I think you over estimate the cost of a PC.

i have $50 left after this semester and next semester. i use most of the money i make for room and board. so, where can i find a great pc for $50?

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#163 Bebi_vegeta
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[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="thesmiter"][QUOTE="Espada12"]

John Carmack want's it to work on the 360 because it's more money for them. Also if you have to save for a year to buy a comp. Either you have very finiacially strapped or need to get a job.

thesmiter

uh, college students and high-school aged kids make up a lot of gamers, you know. i have to pay for college first, an awesome pc will be when i have a degree, a house, a car, and can keep up mortgage payments easily.

I think you over estimate the cost of a PC.

i have $50 left after this semester and next semester. i use most of the money i make for room and board. so, where can i find a great pc for $50?

I must of missed the part where you could buy a console and games for $50...

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#164 thesmiter
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[QUOTE="thesmiter"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="thesmiter"][QUOTE="Espada12"]

John Carmack want's it to work on the 360 because it's more money for them. Also if you have to save for a year to buy a comp. Either you have very finiacially strapped or need to get a job.

Bebi_vegeta

uh, college students and high-school aged kids make up a lot of gamers, you know. i have to pay for college first, an awesome pc will be when i have a degree, a house, a car, and can keep up mortgage payments easily.

I think you over estimate the cost of a PC.

i have $50 left after this semester and next semester. i use most of the money i make for room and board. so, where can i find a great pc for $50?

I must of missed the part where you could buy a console and games for $50...

who said i personally own a console? its not mine, perse. i just use it. my laptop is mine, maybe that's why i can't afford a console. i needed a mobile pc, i take it to class. it can't play games very well, though, but it can access the internet and use word, so thats really all i need. plus its 2 years old...

so, how about that awesome $50 pc?

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#165 Bebi_vegeta
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[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="thesmiter"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

I think you over estimate the cost of a PC.

thesmiter

i have $50 left after this semester and next semester. i use most of the money i make for room and board. so, where can i find a great pc for $50?

I must of missed the part where you could buy a console and games for $50...

who said i personally own a console? its not mine, perse. i just use it. my laptop is mine, maybe that's why i can't afford a console. i needed a mobile pc, i take it to class. it can't play games very well, though, but it can access the internet and use word, so thats really all i need. plus its 2 years old...

so, how about that awesome $50 pc?

I wonder how you purchased that laptop...

Anyway, who said anything about a $50 Pc? I'm just saying you won't find a console game that cheap either... so to say it's expensive, maybe you need to have a part time job. Usualy people need money to afford stuff... so $50 ain't gona get you far in any gamer departement.

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#166 thesmiter
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[QUOTE="thesmiter"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="thesmiter"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

I think you over estimate the cost of a PC.

Bebi_vegeta

i have $50 left after this semester and next semester. i use most of the money i make for room and board. so, where can i find a great pc for $50?

I must of missed the part where you could buy a console and games for $50...

who said i personally own a console? its not mine, perse. i just use it. my laptop is mine, maybe that's why i can't afford a console. i needed a mobile pc, i take it to class. it can't play games very well, though, but it can access the internet and use word, so thats really all i need. plus its 2 years old...

so, how about that awesome $50 pc?

I wonder how you purchased that laptop...

Anyway, who said anything about a $50 Pc? I'm just saying you won't find a console game that cheap either... so to say it's expensive, maybe you need to have a part time job. Usualy people need money to afford stuff... so $50 ain't gona get you far in any gamer departement.

money = room and board, food, tuition, books. laptop = 2 years old, gift from grandparents, back when i started college. i'm sorry my current part time job isn't good enough in your eyes, i'll have to get one that pays more than 8 an hour, which will be easy with my degree... oh, wait a minute....

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#167 Bebi_vegeta
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[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="thesmiter"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

I must of missed the part where you could buy a console and games for $50...

thesmiter

who said i personally own a console? its not mine, perse. i just use it. my laptop is mine, maybe that's why i can't afford a console. i needed a mobile pc, i take it to class. it can't play games very well, though, but it can access the internet and use word, so thats really all i need. plus its 2 years old...

so, how about that awesome $50 pc?

I wonder how you purchased that laptop...

Anyway, who said anything about a $50 Pc? I'm just saying you won't find a console game that cheap either... so to say it's expensive, maybe you need to have a part time job. Usualy people need money to afford stuff... so $50 ain't gona get you far in any gamer departement.

money = room and board, food, tuition, books. laptop = 2 years old, gift from grandparents, back when i started college. i'm sorry my current part time job isn't good enough in your eyes, i'll have to get one that pays more than 8 an hour, which will be easy with my degree... oh, wait a minute....

So again, you can't afford gaming itself. Not because PC are expensive... wich was the whole main argument, right?

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The console users in this thread.

It doesn't matter how many times it is stated PC has the most high rated exclusives this gen, even if GameSpot's figures show this. This isn't about facts, this is just a bunch of consolites egobating at the idea that PC is dying; because consoles are just that great apparently.

"Facts? Evidence? We want none of that here, just fanboyism and false accusations that makes us feel good about our platform of choice."

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The console users in this thread.

It doesn't matter how many times it is stated PC has the most high rated exclusives this gen, even if GameSpot's figures show this. This isn't about facts, this is just a bunch of consolites egobating at the idea that PC is dying; because consoles are just that great apparently.

"Facts? Evidence? We want none of that here, just fanboyism and false accusations that makes us feel good about our platform of choice."

AnnoyedDragon

Let them have their hypothetical thread, people have been saying thise scince the HL2 days and what did we get? Cryis, STALKERs, the witcher, world in conflict. the games i have enjoyed most this gen have all come to the pc, alot of them were exclusives.

This is why the term 'consoleite' is an insult. Why do they wish death on the pc? because they want one :P

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#171 aliblabla2007
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[QUOTE="Puckhog04"]

Your response fails on so many levels (including your last statement that is apparently based on nothing but your opinion) but i'll just show one.

http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=p7pcq78sddbXfN0A-LjKWEA

PC: AAA Exclusive = 10. AA exclusive = 59.

PS3: AAA Exclusive = 1 (counting LBP). AA exclusive = 4.

360: AAA exclusive = 4. AA exclusive = 12.

Wii: AAA exclusive = 4. AA exclusive = 7.

So, once again, PC wins by over double the amount in terms of AAA exclusives and AA exclusives. And this list if from Dec. of 05' and on to now. Don't state things that are obvious lies.

Edit: Didn't mean to resurrect such a dead thread that i abandoned earlier due to college courses but, heh, oh well. Can't believe this thread was still up.

peacenutman

Here's where that spread sheet fails:

1.Because PC doesn't have generations like consoles, the list includes games like Prince of Persia, Marc Ecko's Getting Up, Dreamfall: The Longest Journey, etc are clearly last-gen, because their console counterpart are on PS2/Xbox. Those games shouldn't even be on the list.

2. That list contains TONs of expansions, which is a cheap way for hermits to claim more AAA or AA, which is essentially just add-ons, while consoles dont have expansion and thier add-ons dont get reviewed (Warhawk).

3. The list needs a update, supreme commander and world in conflict are not exclusive anymore, they are coming to X360.

So next time hermits before using that spreadsheet, think.

1. The PC list is counted from the START of this GENERATION. And Dreamfall: The Longest Journey, Prince of Persia and Marc Ecko's Getting Up aren't counted as PC exclusive in that list. :lol:

2. They're games in their own right, and some offer just as much content, if not more than some full games. I definitely know that I've gotten more playtime out of Dawn of War: Dark Crusade than Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare for example.

3. Supreme Commander flopped hard on the 360, with a 5.0. A requirement for any game or version to make that list is that it scores 8.0, otherwise it's not considered. Since the PC version was the only one that scored above 7.9, obviously it's the only one counted, so it can be considered exclusive, since it might as well be.

WiC: Soviet Assault was dropped, so it's still PC exclusive and will stay that way until they try porting it over again. And it's not like the ORIGINAL WiC would actually be discounted, WiC:SA isn't identical to it, you know. :roll:

Seems like the list isn't the one using outdated info. :lol:

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#173 mo0ksi
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Here's where that spread sheet fails:

1.Because PC doesn't have generations like consoles, the list includes games like Prince of Persia, Marc Ecko's Getting Up, Dreamfall: The Longest Journey, etc are clearly last-gen, because their console counterpart are on PS2/Xbox. Those games shouldn't even be on the list.

2. That list contains TONs of expansions, which is a cheap way for hermits to claim more AAA or AA, which is essentially just add-ons, while consoles dont have expansion and thier add-ons dont get reviewed (Warhawk).

3. The list needs a update, supreme commander and world in conflict are not exclusive anymore, they are coming to X360.

So next time hermits before using that spreadsheet, think.

peacenutman

1. PC games in this gen started counting when the 360 was released, and it still wins.

2. Expansions most of the time carry more content then full fledged console games. i.e. a Medieval 2 expansion that carries 4 seperate campaigns.

3. SupCom is terrible on 360 and WiC AFAIK has been canceled on consoles.

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#174 lowe0
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And if you seriously think of Halo and Gears of War as two of your favorite games, then good for you. I find GoW a very linear shooter and repetitive and short. I find Halo as a generic shooter, with nothing truly special about it. It's obvious you haven't played games like Crysis (yes), Mafia, Crysis Warhead (yes), Max Payne 1 and 2 (yes & yes), Call of Duty (the first one), Fallout 1 and 2, Dues Ex (one of my favorites; try spelling it right next time), Sins of a Solar Empire, World in Conflict (yes), Company of Heroes (have it, but it never held my interest), StarCraft, The Witcher, Diablo 1 and 2, Far Cry 1 (yes), STALKER (yes, hated it), etc. I could mention many more.

bedram793

"Obvious I haven't played" games like those, is it? And you didn't even get back to the best era of PC gaming... where are titles like X-Wing & TIE Fighter, Wing Commander 1-4, Descent 1 & 2, System Shock 1 & 2, Thief 1 & 2, Rainbow Six & Rogue Spear, Magic Carpet, MechWarrior 2, and Fade To Black on your list?

Next time you open your mouth to tell someone they wouldn't have their opinions if only they'd played something, I suggest you check your facts first.

This is why the term 'consoleite' is an insult. Why do they wish death on the pc? because they want one :P

thegoldenpoo
I have one, and I certainly don't wish death on it. Your perception of consolites is just a little bit skewed. I'm a consolite because I genuinely prefer it, not because I can't afford PC gaming or want to see it come to an end.

[QUOTE="anshul89"]

I find it hilarious that it's coming from someone who's too scared of getting pwnt by PCgamers in games that define PCgaming.clone01

how do you figure? every time you post, you simply reveal more of your hermit elitism.

Eh, I'll give him some slack on this one. We've been bouncing this argument back and forth for months, and neither of us has found a way to get the other to see reason. :D
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#175 jasonheyman
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The console users in this thread.

It doesn't matter how many times it is stated PC has the most high rated exclusives this gen, even if GameSpot's figures show this. This isn't about facts, this is just a bunch of consolites egobating at the idea that PC is dying; because consoles are just that great apparently.

"Facts? Evidence? We want none of that here, just fanboyism and false accusations that makes us feel good about our platform of choice."

AnnoyedDragon

The fact is exclusives will die off for the PC eventually! Fact is PC is not the "best" platform to play video games on! It's an "opinion"! So get over it! Devs are sick of Piracy on the PC. So they will make console version of games first to make up for what PC pirates are stealing from them! Can you blame them??

It's funny how no one takes into account what people in the industry say lmao! This is a joke! You peeps need to face the fact that BLIZZARD, CRYTEK and more will be coming to console! It's being talked about. They are sick of their games being stolen from them! Period! More and more Devs will make the jump to console along side the PC!

And I like how PC fans count games that are AAA on console with PC and take it to only their side lol because you think it's better?? Get your facts striaght!;)

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#176 thesmiter
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lol at all this. pc will always be ahead in terms of graphics, but who cares if they bring games to consoles as well? it would be more fun, because more people would play.

that said, there are some games that will just always be pc-exclusive. rts and mmo will always be dominantly pc games, and fps online games are hella fun on pc as well.

and to the guy who said i couldn't afford gaming, you would be correct sir! but it costs nothing to waste my time talking about it ;)

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#177 jaisimar_chelse
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[QUOTE="AnnoyedDragon"]

The console users in this thread.

It doesn't matter how many times it is stated PC has the most high rated exclusives this gen, even if GameSpot's figures show this. This isn't about facts, this is just a bunch of consolites egobating at the idea that PC is dying; because consoles are just that great apparently.

"Facts? Evidence? We want none of that here, just fanboyism and false accusations that makes us feel good about our platform of choice."

jasonheyman

The fact is exclusives will die off for the PC eventually! Fact is PC is not the "best" platform to play video games on! It's an "opinion"! So get over it! Devs are sick of Piracy on the PC. So they will make console version of games first to make up for what PC pirates are stealing from them! Can you blame them??

It's funny how no one takes into account what people in the industry say lmao! This is a joke! You peeps need to face the fact that BLIZZARD, CRYTEK and more will be coming to console! It's being talked about. They are sick of their games being stolen from them! Period! More and more Devs will make the jump to console along side the PC!

And I like how PC fans count games that are AAA on console with PC and take it to only their side lol because you think it's better?? Get your facts striaght!;)

PC EXCLUSIVES, dying since 1990.

bring me proof , where blizzard has said that they are sick off pc piracy. Dont bring me the diablo 3 to consoles link. Give me the link where they say PC piracy is a problem FOR THEM and that they are not gonna make pc exclusives any more.

Company of Heroes , SoaSE, Crysis, Twilight of the Arnor, world in conflict ....

These are on consoles :shock:

the only fact in this thread is that PC has the highes rated titles (if u dont think so, gtfo this site)

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#178 AdrianWerner
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You peeps need to face the fact that BLIZZARD, CRYTEK and more will be coming to console! It's being talked about. They are sick of their games being stolen from them! Period! More and more Devs will make the jump to console along side the PC!jasonheyman

Fact is that more and more console devs are starting to support PC, not the other way around.

And there are more new PC devs debuting than there are PC devs jumping to consoles.

Looks like there will be more and more PC exclusives, not less. Seems you've been owned badly, but if you prefer to stay in denial be my guest, maybe this will make missing out on all those PC exclusives easier :D

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#179 DAZZER7
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[QUOTE="AnnoyedDragon"]

The console users in this thread.

It doesn't matter how many times it is stated PC has the most high rated exclusives this gen, even if GameSpot's figures show this. This isn't about facts, this is just a bunch of consolites egobating at the idea that PC is dying; because consoles are just that great apparently.

"Facts? Evidence? We want none of that here, just fanboyism and false accusations that makes us feel good about our platform of choice."

jasonheyman

The fact is exclusives will die off for the PC eventually! (How is this a fact?? Seriously, dont avoid the question like so many of the previous posts that you have, HOW IS THIS A FACT???) Fact is PC is not the "best" platform to play video games on! It's an "opinion"!(So again, how is this a fact, seriously dude, go look up the word fact in a dictionary. How is it a fact particularly when in the very same sentence you say it is an opinion??) So get over it! Devs are sick of Piracy on the PC. So they will make console version of games first to make up for what PC pirates are stealing from them! Can you blame them?? (Have you eer looked at the various torrents out there....there are tons and I mean tons of 360 games that are uploaded)

It's funny how no one takes into account what people in the industry say lmao! (Yes we do and as I mentioned in a previous post, it is 1 individual's opinion and it has been taken on board. But you're holding on to that 1 opinion. You stick your fingers in your ears and ignore all the other signs that contradict that 1 statement that you quoted in your original post) This is a joke! You peeps need to face the fact that BLIZZARD, CRYTEK and more will be coming to console! It's being talked about. (Answer me this, shouldn't we be seeing more mmo's and other pc exclusives coming across to console than we currently have? I mean this gen is getting on a bit now. If all these games they talk about are really going to come to consoles, then they better get a move on or they'll only have a few years to make all this money you talk about lol) They are sick of their games being stolen from them! Period! More and more Devs will make the jump to console along side the PC! (Blizzard are fed up with their games being stolen? Why? Are they not making money on the pc then? :lol::lol::lol:)

And I like how PC fans count games that are AAA on console with PC and take it to only their side lol because you think it's better?? Get your facts striaght!;) lol wut?

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#180 hywel69
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WOW, Diablo 3 and Starcraft 2 say no.

As does Deus Ex 3 . Not to mention if you buy games from Vavle, who openly admit they cba to develop for PS3?

Then there's tons of other exclusive DL games from Stardock and other online devs.

Install base of over 250 MIllion etc......

Nothing to see in this thread move along...

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#181 ukillwegrill
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[QUOTE="mo0ksi"]

Empire Total War

Dawn of War 2

Starcraft 2

Battlefield 3

Diablo 3

I would say those are upcoming PC exclusives. Wouldn't you?

blackdreamhunk

lets say that rts do go over to console it will be garbage and not even the same game just like rpg's,rts,mmos,fps on the pc,. Blizard is not making a starcraft 2 multi plat because it can't be done sorry!

crysis on console can't be done riight now it has to be watered down!!! get my drift

LOTR is the same on both platforms.

SC is faster yes, but it could be done on console.

Dawn of War .. looks to be harder to do on consoles with limited RAM

Diablo 3 ... Gameboy could play it.

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#182 jaisimar_chelse
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[QUOTE="blackdreamhunk"][QUOTE="mo0ksi"]

Empire Total War

Dawn of War 2

Starcraft 2

Battlefield 3

Diablo 3

I would say those are upcoming PC exclusives. Wouldn't you?

ukillwegrill

lets say that rts do go over to console it will be garbage and not even the same game just like rpg's,rts,mmos,fps on the pc,. Blizard is not making a starcraft 2 multi plat because it can't be done sorry!

crysis on console can't be done riight now it has to be watered down!!! get my drift

LOTR is the same on both platforms.

SC is faster yes, but it could be done on console.

Dawn of War .. looks to be harder to do on consoles with limited RAM

Diablo 3 ... Gameboy could play it.

gameboy could play diablo 3 ?

:|

this statement is more dumber than supporting spurs

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#183 clone01
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A. No, he said :I'm sure you'd like to think you're a discriminating consumer of games who's smarter than the masses, but here's a newsflash: console gamers aren't a bunch of knuckledragging cretins. You'll find plenty of discerning gamers on consoles too.

B. I wasnt the one who went off topic in the first place

C. Open your eyes, multiplats are the future.anshul89

A. I said ORIGINAL POST.

B. Maybe not, you just helped to keep derailing the thread.

C. Uh, yeah, i know, multiplats are the future, that's somewhat the point of the article.

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#184 stripes_green
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jasonheyman, did your mother drop you as a kid, this is the third thread like this in a week. Wow. Do you go to work? Have a job? I mean what do you do with your life? (Besides this....)

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#185 t3hTwinky
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Ugh not the exclamation points guy again.

All games on all systems seem to be going multiplat, its not just the PC. Not only that, but the PC is more open as a platform and cheaper and easier to develop for, so that all but ensures that the PC will always have exclusive titles.

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#186 Vandalvideo
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The fact is exclusives will die off for the PC eventually!jasonheyman
The facts of the matter is that the PC still has the most annoucned exclusive titles and the most highly rated titles of any individual platform. Not to mention console exclusives are getting fewer and fewer nowadays as many developers are turning to multiplatform development. The idea of third party exclusives are almost a thing of the past now.

Devs are sick of Piracy on the PC. So they will make console version of games first to make up for what PC pirates are stealing from them! Can you blame them??

I find it funny how three of the most anticipated titles this fall; Fallout 3, Gears 2, and Fable 2 [among others], were all first pirated on the 360. It was out a full two weeks prior to any form of piracy going on the PC. It isn't like they are innocent in this whole affair. PC piracy is relatively higher, sure, but that isn't stopping the PC from still having, again, the most announced exclusives and highly rated titles.

It's funny how no one takes into account what people in the industry say lmao! This is a joke! You peeps need to face the fact that BLIZZARD, CRYTEK and more will be coming to console! It's being talked about. They are sick of their games being stolen from them! Period! More and more Devs will make the jump to console along side the PC!

Actually, Blizzard has repeatedly been talking in hypotheticals. Not to mention they have a long standing company policy of, "We don't like the kinds of restrictions placed on developers when developing for consoles." [Paraphrase]. Not to mention that, for every one big company that goes to consoles, another ten, just as talented and less long in the tooth indie developers come to the PC and continue to pump out unqiue, innovative titles. Alot of the companies that are complaining about this are from a bygone era, and don't really have the bank to complain about it in the first place.

And I like how PC fans count games that are AAA on console with PC and take it to only their side lol because you think it's better?? Get your facts striaght!;)

From a purely technical perspective, games are generally better on the PC; Better sound thanks to EAX, better graphics thanks to improved resolution, extended playtime thanks to mod support, et cetera.
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#187 Makari
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I can't think of 1 hyped PC exclusive that went onto sell over a million units (Crysis, Spore, Witcher)jg4xchamp
The Witcher and the EE release combined actually just now cleared 1 million sales, after a year out there. Just got posted on the PC forum, I'm surprised it wasn't higher. http://www.thewitcher.com/forum/index.php?topic=19284.0 edit: and for the above post.. hell yes, Vandalvideo is right. Blizzard has been pretty emphatic about sticking to the PC. They don't need to pursue extra moneyhats via console releases, they can do exactly what they feel like.
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#188 imprezawrx500
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there isn't much future for consle exclusives either. basicly every ps3/x360 game is on both consoles and many on pc as well
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#189 Gaming_Guru_Guy
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PC gaming is fading quickly.
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#190 DAZZER7
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PC gaming is fading quickly.Gaming_Guru_Guy

Well ok I believe it now, but only because you said so ;)

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#191 L337Socks
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PC grows more and niche : (
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#192 jaisimar_chelse
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PC grows more and niche : (L337Socks

alt account i see.

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#193 Lidve
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[QUOTE="blackdreamhunk"]

ok this guy is talking garbage until a console can do what a pc can it will never ever happen. Tell me where all the mods and indie games devs are!!!!

Even EA says that the future of gaming is on the pc!

jasonheyman

Read the reviews and ratings. Don't you find it funny that the 360 version of games gets the same rating as PC version of games?! So how does that make PC gaming better?

Standards?

No game on PC can get 10 for graphics anymore because Crysis is one who get it

So every other game will get 9

On consoles,games like GTA4 can get 10 for graphics because there is nothing that looks bether

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#194 Lidve
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[QUOTE="blackdreamhunk"]

ok this guy is talking garbage until a console can do what a pc can it will never ever happen. Tell me where all the mods and indie games devs are!!!!

Even EA says that the future of gaming is on the pc!

jasonheyman

Read the reviews and ratings. Don't you find it funny that the 360 version of games gets the same rating as PC version of games?! So how does that make PC gaming better?

Standards?

No game on PC can get 10 for graphics anymore because Crysis is one who get it

So every other game will get 9

On consoles,games like GTA4 can get 10 for graphics because there is nothing that looks bether

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#196 Makari
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[QUOTE="Lidve"]

SC is faster yes, but it could be done on console.

Dawn of War .. looks to be harder to do on consoles with limited RAM

Diablo 3 ... Gameboy could play it.

It could run, and the gameplay would be changed in a fairly basic fashion for all except D3. RTS' like that rely on the mouse pretty heavily. Ditto D3 actually, though it could be done with a controller.. you'd have to remove the twenty-hotkeys setup that D2 became to make it work though. It'd kinda suck :(
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#197 tenaka2
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PC grows more and niche : (L337Socks

hey man, accept the suspension, come back later.