Not bad, Sony. Not Bad. 360 wins Black Friday.

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#151 Malta_1980
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Unlike fanboys am sure both Sony & MS are more than happy with those sales figures...

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#152 ionusX
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lack of swag detected on the part of the cows.

no more cow trolls has really crimped their pair.

right now cheleman, isf, and platinum would actually be doing stuff instead of banned or leaving like noobs

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#153 delta3074
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worldwide ps3 sells more than xbox every year in every country except america common knowledge, worldwide ps3 still wins OldSnakePS3
2011 says hi, and no, the 360 outsells the Ps3 in the UK, America is not the only country where the 360 beats the Ps3
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#154 Newhopes
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Vita still pathetic as always.

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#155 KBFloYd
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Vita still pathetic as always.

Newhopes

yea..150k...3ds does more than that EVERY week in japan alone...

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#156 AmazonTreeBoa
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lack of swag detected on the part of the cows.ionusX

What does that mean? Around here "swag" means dirt weed. So to me, you just said the cows have no dirt weed.

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#157 NineTailedGoku
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[QUOTE="OldSnakePS3"]worldwide ps3 sells more than xbox every year in every country except america common knowledge, worldwide ps3 still wins delta3074
2011 says hi, and no, the 360 outsells the Ps3 in the UK, America is not the only country where the 360 beats the Ps3

Fiscal 2011 says hi as well. PS3 beat 360 worldwide in the fiscal reports. What do you have to say now?

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#158 Newhopes
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Vita still pathetic as always.

KBFloYd

yea..150k...3ds does more than that EVERY week in japan alone...

It's not so much that it's the deals like the Ass creed bundle that where available and it still only manages 160K that makes it pretty pathetic, 3DS also had a pretty bad black friday but at least that had the excuse of having no deals.

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#159 deactivated-57ad0e5285d73
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The math is wrong on this, because the dates are wrong. The PS3 door buster was on Thursday,before black Friday, at most retailers. Also, the sales should now include the cyber Monday stuff, as well.
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#160 delta3074
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[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="OldSnakePS3"]worldwide ps3 sells more than xbox every year in every country except america common knowledge, worldwide ps3 still wins NineTailedGoku

2011 says hi, and no, the 360 outsells the Ps3 in the UK, America is not the only country where the 360 beats the Ps3

Fiscal 2011 says hi as well. PS3 beat 360 worldwide in the fiscal reports. What do you have to say now?

no it didn't, the 360 beat the Ps3 by 800,000 units and thats based off SONYs 2011 Fiscal reports 2011 Ps3 14.1 million 2011 Xbox 360 14.9 million units http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=461642 You clearly have no idea what you are talking about,lol Talk about self ownage, where do you think i got my info from? SONYs fiscal reports,lol
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#161 Badosh
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Cause its not like consolites have 10000x the sales threads every gen compared to PC gamers. LOLZ.

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#162 Tessellation
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poor cows..they most be crying in the basement.
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#163 platniumgamer
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Better luck next Black Friday cows :cool:

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#164 deactivated-5cd08b1605da1
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[QUOTE="Totalgym9000"][QUOTE="Badosh"]

So PS3 did worse than the 360, but still domination, I assume, right?

Link for 360 sales

750,000 > 525,000.

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Yer but you know sony/ps3 would still be selling more when you count the rest of the world............

In the same way they sold more worlwide in 2011..right??

seriously? One year of exception with a minimal difference is your counter argument? How do you think the PS3 came close to 360 numbers with one year less on the market (one year and HALF less in its biggest market, the EU)? Its simple math buddy. The PS3 sells more throughout the world overall than the 360. Its common knowledge by now

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#165 deactivated-5cd08b1605da1
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[QUOTE="NineTailedGoku"]

[QUOTE="delta3074"]2011 says hi, and no, the 360 outsells the Ps3 in the UK, America is not the only country where the 360 beats the Ps3delta3074

Fiscal 2011 says hi as well. PS3 beat 360 worldwide in the fiscal reports. What do you have to say now?

no it didn't, the 360 beat the Ps3 by 800,000 units and thats based off SONYs 2011 Fiscal reports 2011 Ps3 14.1 million 2011 Xbox 360 14.9 million units http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=461642 You clearly have no idea what you are talking about,lol Talk about self ownage, where do you think i got my info from? SONYs fiscal reports,lol

Its still one year of exception with a minimal difference. EU has almost more 5 million PS3 sold than the 360, japan has more 6.6 million PS3 sold than the 360, The rest of the world has more 1.5 million PS3 sold than the 360

and all of this with one year less on the market

And you guys still cant accept the 360 only sells more on US and Uk?

source: http://www.vgchartz.com/analysis/platform_totals/

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#166 kingtito
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[QUOTE="spiderluck"][QUOTE="Totalgym9000"] Yer but you know sony/ps3 would still be selling more when you count the rest of the world............Vatusus

In the same way they sold more worlwide in 2011..right??

seriously? One year of exception with a minimal difference is your counter argument? How do you think the PS3 came close to 360 numbers with one year less on the market (one year and HALF less in its biggest market, the EU)? Its simple math buddy. The PS3 sells more throughout the world overall than the 360. Its common knowledge by now

You should just give it a rest. He pointed out an error and simply corrected totalgym9000. Why do you feel the need to butt when he's obviously right? Fact remains the PS3 doesn't always sell more WW and definitely not more in THE biggest market in the world.
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[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="NineTailedGoku"]

Fiscal 2011 says hi as well. PS3 beat 360 worldwide in the fiscal reports. What do you have to say now?

Vatusus

no it didn't, the 360 beat the Ps3 by 800,000 units and thats based off SONYs 2011 Fiscal reports 2011 Ps3 14.1 million 2011 Xbox 360 14.9 million units http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=461642 You clearly have no idea what you are talking about,lol Talk about self ownage, where do you think i got my info from? SONYs fiscal reports,lol

Its still one year of exception with a minimal difference. EU has almost more 5 million PS3 sold than the 360, japan has more 6.6 million PS3 sold than the 360, The rest of the world has more 1.5 million PS3 sold than the 360

and all of this with one year less on the market

And you guys still cant accept the 360 only sells more on US and Uk?

source: http://www.vgchartz.com/analysis/platform_totals/

if you dont like VGChartz provide another source

Obvioulsy 360 didn't need to sell more in other markets to compete. Be glad it doesn't sell at all in Japan or the lead would still be millions.

What I think cows can't accept is that it took 6 years just to catch up when it was supposed destroy it out of the gate like the Wii. It's sad when you think about it. Everyone was waiting for the PS3 and NOONE thought the 360 would catch on. Industry experts, writers and gamers all thoguht the PS3 would continue Sony's domination in the console market and that didn't happen.

Sony's brand took a hit while MSs went up considerably. Who do you think came out the winner?

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[QUOTE="Vatusus"]

[QUOTE="delta3074"]no it didn't, the 360 beat the Ps3 by 800,000 units and thats based off SONYs 2011 Fiscal reports 2011 Ps3 14.1 million 2011 Xbox 360 14.9 million units http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=461642 You clearly have no idea what you are talking about,lol Talk about self ownage, where do you think i got my info from? SONYs fiscal reports,lolkingtito

Its still one year of exception with a minimal difference. EU has almost more 5 million PS3 sold than the 360, japan has more 6.6 million PS3 sold than the 360, The rest of the world has more 1.5 million PS3 sold than the 360

and all of this with one year less on the market

And you guys still cant accept the 360 only sells more on US and Uk?

source: http://www.vgchartz.com/analysis/platform_totals/

if you dont like VGChartz provide another source

Obvioulsy 360 didn't need to sell more in other markets to compete. Be glad it doesn't sell at all in Japan or the lead would still be millions.

What I think cows can't accept is that it took 6 years just to catch up when it was supposed destroy it out of the gate like the Wii. It's sad when you think about it. Everyone was waiting for the PS3 and NOONE thought the 360 would catch on. Industry experts, writers and gamers all thoguht the PS3 would continue Sony's domination in the console market and that didn't happen.

Sony's brand took a hit while MSs went up considerably. Who do you think came out the winner?

Yes, but that was more due to Sony screw ups ($599 us dollas, lost of former 3rd party exclusives, no big launch releases, etc, etc) than anything. Sony screw big at the beggining of the gen but still managed to catch up a console with a full 8 million lead. And actually american media was riddled with anti-sony propaganda at the beggining of the current gen. That helped ALOT to boost the 360 sales, I'm sure of it

The WiiU is handling with some of that negativity atm aswell, althought not as bad as Sony had to deal with at the time

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#169 kingtito
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[QUOTE="kingtito"]

[QUOTE="Vatusus"]

Its still one year of exception with a minimal difference. EU has almost more 5 million PS3 sold than the 360, japan has more 6.6 million PS3 sold than the 360, The rest of the world has more 1.5 million PS3 sold than the 360

and all of this with one year less on the market

And you guys still cant accept the 360 only sells more on US and Uk?

source: http://www.vgchartz.com/analysis/platform_totals/

if you dont like VGChartz provide another source

Vatusus

Obvioulsy 360 didn't need to sell more in other markets to compete. Be glad it doesn't sell at all in Japan or the lead would still be millions.

What I think cows can't accept is that it took 6 years just to catch up when it was supposed destroy it out of the gate like the Wii. It's sad when you think about it. Everyone was waiting for the PS3 and NOONE thought the 360 would catch on. Industry experts, writers and gamers all thoguht the PS3 would continue Sony's domination in the console market and that didn't happen.

Sony's brand took a hit while MSs went up considerably. Who do you think came out the winner?

Yes, but that was more due to Sony screw ups ($599 us dollas, lost of former 3rd party exclusives, no big launch releases, etc, etc) than anything. Sony screw big at the beggining of the gen but still managed to catch up a console with a full 8 million lead. And actually american media was riddled with anti-sony propaganda at the beggining of the current gen. That helped ALOT to boost the 360 sales, I'm sure of it

The WiiU is handling with some of that negativity atm aswell, althought not as bad as Sony had to deal with at the time

Don't make excuses for it, especially given the brand recognition Sony had at the time. It's not impressive they managed to catch up to say the least. They have a 6 million lead in Japan and managed to make up the other 2 million in 6 years and you're calling that impressive? Sony ef'fed up and MS capitalized on it and that's how it usually goes.
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[QUOTE="Vatusus"]

[QUOTE="kingtito"]

Obvioulsy 360 didn't need to sell more in other markets to compete. Be glad it doesn't sell at all in Japan or the lead would still be millions.

What I think cows can't accept is that it took 6 years just to catch up when it was supposed destroy it out of the gate like the Wii. It's sad when you think about it. Everyone was waiting for the PS3 and NOONE thought the 360 would catch on. Industry experts, writers and gamers all thoguht the PS3 would continue Sony's domination in the console market and that didn't happen.

Sony's brand took a hit while MSs went up considerably. Who do you think came out the winner?

kingtito

Yes, but that was more due to Sony screw ups ($599 us dollas, lost of former 3rd party exclusives, no big launch releases, etc, etc) than anything. Sony screw big at the beggining of the gen but still managed to catch up a console with a full 8 million lead. And actually american media was riddled with anti-sony propaganda at the beggining of the current gen. That helped ALOT to boost the 360 sales, I'm sure of it

The WiiU is handling with some of that negativity atm aswell, althought not as bad as Sony had to deal with at the time

Don't make excuses for it, especially given the brand recognition Sony had at the time. It's not impressive they managed to catch up to say the least. They have a 6 million lead in Japan and managed to make up the other 2 million in 6 years and you're calling that impressive? Sony ef'fed up and MS capitalized on it and that's how it usually goes.

They're not "excuses" when they're true. The Wii also has brand recognition by now and the WiiU sales are underwhelming atm going by several reports. Brand recognition dont mean much when you can buy a similar product for half the price. Its not an "excuse" when its obvious the higher price point the PS3 had for several years was a HUGE turn off for several people. what makes you think the Wii sold so much if not for being the cheapest console of the three? You use the lead PS3 has in Japan but the same isnt applied to the lead 360 has in US? That hypocritical to say the least (the lead of the PS3 in japan is 6.6 million while the lead the 360 has in US is 15 million btw) As I pointed out 5 million (EU) + 1.5 (rest of the world) = 6.5 million) So take US (biggest 360 market) and Japan (biggest PS3 market) and the difference is 6.5 million. Thats definitely not little when it has been 1 year less on the market, one and HALF in several parts of the world, including EU

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#171 superclocked
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525000 + 160000 = sony family beats xbox who is last place nuff said imho

_SWAG_
Oo... 750,000 > 685,000 Also, Sony's sales numbers include one more day than MS. And there is no logic behind statements about the 360 being in last place. MS reached 70 million consoles sold over a month sooner, and they've also sold more consoles since...
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#172 superclocked
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[QUOTE="_SWAG_"]

525000 + 160000 = sony family beats xbox who is last place nuff said imho

CaseyWegner

is it also your opinion that 685,000 > 750,000? :?

Lol, you beat me to it....
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[QUOTE="kingtito"][QUOTE="Vatusus"]

Yes, but that was more due to Sony screw ups ($599 us dollas, lost of former 3rd party exclusives, no big launch releases, etc, etc) than anything. Sony screw big at the beggining of the gen but still managed to catch up a console with a full 8 million lead. And actually american media was riddled with anti-sony propaganda at the beggining of the current gen. That helped ALOT to boost the 360 sales, I'm sure of it

The WiiU is handling with some of that negativity atm aswell, althought not as bad as Sony had to deal with at the time

Vatusus

Don't make excuses for it, especially given the brand recognition Sony had at the time. It's not impressive they managed to catch up to say the least. They have a 6 million lead in Japan and managed to make up the other 2 million in 6 years and you're calling that impressive? Sony ef'fed up and MS capitalized on it and that's how it usually goes.

They're not "excuses" when they're true. The Wii also has brand recognition by now and the WiiU sales are underwhelming atm going by several reports. Brand recognition dont mean much when you can buy a similar product for half the price. Its not an "excuse" when its obvious the higher price point the PS3 had for several years was a HUGE turn off for several people. what makes you think the Wii sold so much if not for being the cheapest console of the three? You use the lead PS3 has in Japan but the same isnt applied to the lead 360 has in US? That hypocritical to say the least (the lead of the PS3 in japan is 6.6 million while the lead the 360 has in US is 15 million btw) As I pointed out 5 million (EU) + 1.5 (rest of the world) = 6.5 million) So take US (biggest 360 market) and Japan (biggest PS3 market) and the difference is 6.5 million. Thats definitely not little when it has been 1 year less on the market, one and HALF in several parts of the world, including EU

1st of all they're excuses whether you like it or not. Sony had everything going for them and THEY decided on the high price point, THEY decided to include BR and THEY decided to launch it later. Those are all true so Sony has NOONE to blame but themselves.

2nd Cheaper doesn't always mean it'll sell. The Wii sold so much because it was uniqe and appealed to a broader fanbase. Being cheaper might have helped but it wasn't the only or deciding factor when people ran out and bought it.

3rd the PS3 sells well in NA but can you say the same for the 360 in Japan? It sell less than 1k a week in Japan while the PS3 sells at the very lease over 100k - 200k in NA and on BF week it hit 500k+. Did the 360 sell anything close to those numbers in Japan? Does the PS3 sell 20x less than the 360 in NA? I didn't think so and that's why I used Japan.

You can keep bringing EU but fact remains 360 sells more in the UK than PS3 and the UK is the biggest market in EU. You sound more and more like a butthurt cow than anything else. Sony lost this gen plain and simple. MS didn't win but they sure helped their cause and made the XBOX brand a house hold name. I can't say Sony did anything to help PS brand much.

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#174 delta3074
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[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="NineTailedGoku"]

Fiscal 2011 says hi as well. PS3 beat 360 worldwide in the fiscal reports. What do you have to say now?

Vatusus

no it didn't, the 360 beat the Ps3 by 800,000 units and thats based off SONYs 2011 Fiscal reports 2011 Ps3 14.1 million 2011 Xbox 360 14.9 million units http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=461642 You clearly have no idea what you are talking about,lol Talk about self ownage, where do you think i got my info from? SONYs fiscal reports,lol

Its still one year of exception with a minimal difference. EU has almost more 5 million PS3 sold than the 360, japan has more 6.6 million PS3 sold than the 360, The rest of the world has more 1.5 million PS3 sold than the 360

and all of this with one year less on the market

And you guys still cant accept the 360 only sells more on US and Uk?

source: http://www.vgchartz.com/analysis/platform_totals/

if you dont like VGChartz provide another source

Where in my post do i dispute what YOU are saying, you just basically said Exctly the same thing i did, Which is that America is not the only Place the 360 dominates and that The Ps3 Has not outsold the 360, it's pretty obvious from my post that i can Accept that the 360 only outsells the Ps3 in 2 regions, the US and UK, so why you are ranting at me about me not accepting something i have no idea.
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And actually american media was riddled with anti-sony propaganda at the beggining of the current gen. That helped ALOT to boost the 360 sales, I'm sure of it

Vatusus
On the contrary, American media was very confident in the fact that the PS3 would be far superior to the 360, especially after the theoretical maximum performance for each machine was released. But did little Sony know, Microsoft pulled a fast one on them, and made the 360 look far less powerful than it really is. Sony had no clue just how advanced ATI's Xenos really was.. The unified shader architecture that every DirectX compatible videocard has used since the release of the 360 was first used in the Xenos. Instead of having a set number of pipelines for each shader type, the shader pipelines in the Xenos can process any shader type. So while many of the shader pipelines in the RSX lie dormant, every single shader pipeline in the Xenos is being used. And while Sony thought that the Cell would be the icing on the cake, due it being able to assist the RSX with FP calculations, ATI linked 192 FP processors directly to the Xenos GPU die, and gave these FP processors dedicated eDRAM connected to them with an insane amount of bandwidth. Then there is the fact that the Xenon CPU, though not as good as the Cell, is a general purpose CPU with 3x as many integer units, so it is much easier to program for. And then, on top of that, Sony decided to only put 512MB of RAM in the PS3 because that's all that the 360 was going to have. But you see, not only does the 360 use a much more flexible shared RAM setup, but it also uses much less VRAM for textures thanks to the hardware compression methods developed by ATI. This is why the textures in XBox 360 exclusives are so much better than the textures in PS3 exclusives...
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[QUOTE="Vatusus"]

[QUOTE="kingtito"] Don't make excuses for it, especially given the brand recognition Sony had at the time. It's not impressive they managed to catch up to say the least. They have a 6 million lead in Japan and managed to make up the other 2 million in 6 years and you're calling that impressive? Sony ef'fed up and MS capitalized on it and that's how it usually goes.kingtito

They're not "excuses" when they're true. The Wii also has brand recognition by now and the WiiU sales are underwhelming atm going by several reports. Brand recognition dont mean much when you can buy a similar product for half the price. Its not an "excuse" when its obvious the higher price point the PS3 had for several years was a HUGE turn off for several people. what makes you think the Wii sold so much if not for being the cheapest console of the three? You use the lead PS3 has in Japan but the same isnt applied to the lead 360 has in US? That hypocritical to say the least (the lead of the PS3 in japan is 6.6 million while the lead the 360 has in US is 15 million btw) As I pointed out 5 million (EU) + 1.5 (rest of the world) = 6.5 million) So take US (biggest 360 market) and Japan (biggest PS3 market) and the difference is 6.5 million. Thats definitely not little when it has been 1 year less on the market, one and HALF in several parts of the world, including EU

1st of all they're excuses whether you like it or not. Sony had everything going for them and THEY decided on the high price point, THEY decided to include BR and THEY decided to launch it later. Those are all true so Sony has NOONE to blame but themselves.

2nd Cheaper doesn't always mean it'll sell. The Wii sold so much because it was uniqe and appealed to a broader fanbase. Being cheaper might have helped but it wasn't the only or deciding factor when people ran out and bought it.

3rd the PS3 sells well in NA but can you say the same for the 360 in Japan? It sell less than 1k a week in Japan while the PS3 sells at the very lease over 100k - 200k in NA and on BF week it hit 500k+. Did the 360 sell anything close to those numbers in Japan? Does the PS3 sell 20x less than the 360 in NA? I didn't think so and that's why I used Japan.

You can keep bringing EU but fact remains 360 sells more in the UK than PS3 and the UK is the biggest market in EU. You sound more and more like a butthurt cow than anything else. Sony lost this gen plain and simple. MS didn't win but they sure helped their cause and made the XBOX brand a house hold name. I can't say Sony did anything to help PS brand much.

1st. Yes, never said otherwise. My point was, MS has alot to thank for Sony mistakes, more then their own merit

2nd. Also true, but being cheaper it always helps. The 3DS wasnt selling enough until the price cut. Vita is struggling mostly because of the price (its price and Memory Cards price)

3rd. The 360 just dont catter to Japanese audiences. Besides a couple of JRPGs that came out at the beggining of the gen it has nothing more for the japanese audiences. The PS3 however has plenty of games that catter both to japanese and western audiences. I dont get why theres that stigma that Japanese dont buy the 360 because they're "racists". Truth is MS did a bad job in japan while the PS3 didnt in the US

Uk IS the biggest market in EU BUT isnt bigger than the rest of EU, not even close

And no, I'm no cow, I just state facts. I'm a cow because I aknowledge one simple fact that is common knowledge by know? Its a FACT the PS3 has a bigger sales/year ratio WW. If I'm a cow for presenting one simple truth what that makes of you? A lem for denying it when the facts are presented to you

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On the contrary, American media was very confident in the fact that the PS3 would be far superior to the 360, especially after the theoretical maximum performance for each machine was released.superclocked

That was before the PS3 released. I'm talking about after its launch. One had to be blind to not see how many negative articles about the PS3 were written back in 2007. Some of them with good reason, I admit, but oh so many unjustifiably biased. I still remember one blantantly making fun of PS3 early adopters

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#178 PurpleMan5000
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Surprised nobody is mentioning how pretty damn good ps vita did. Not incredibly well but pretty great nonetheless, im personally surprisedms555
I picked one up and was not planning on purchasing one at all. It was on Amazon for $179 and included the Assassin's Creed game, which was a steal.
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#179 deactivated-5cd08b1605da1
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[QUOTE="Vatusus"]

[QUOTE="delta3074"]no it didn't, the 360 beat the Ps3 by 800,000 units and thats based off SONYs 2011 Fiscal reports 2011 Ps3 14.1 million 2011 Xbox 360 14.9 million units http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=461642 You clearly have no idea what you are talking about,lol Talk about self ownage, where do you think i got my info from? SONYs fiscal reports,loldelta3074

Its still one year of exception with a minimal difference. EU has almost more 5 million PS3 sold than the 360, japan has more 6.6 million PS3 sold than the 360, The rest of the world has more 1.5 million PS3 sold than the 360

and all of this with one year less on the market

And you guys still cant accept the 360 only sells more on US and Uk?

source: http://www.vgchartz.com/analysis/platform_totals/

if you dont like VGChartz provide another source

Where in my post do i dispute what YOU are saying, you just basically said Exctly the same thing i did, Which is that America is not the only Place the 360 dominates and that The Ps3 Has not outsold the 360, it's pretty obvious from my post that i can Accept that the 360 only outsells the Ps3 in 2 regions, the US and UK, so why you are ranting at me about me not accepting something i have no idea.

Yes, you're right. And for that I apologize. :oops:

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#180 kingtito
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[QUOTE="kingtito"]

[QUOTE="Vatusus"]

They're not "excuses" when they're true. The Wii also has brand recognition by now and the WiiU sales are underwhelming atm going by several reports. Brand recognition dont mean much when you can buy a similar product for half the price. Its not an "excuse" when its obvious the higher price point the PS3 had for several years was a HUGE turn off for several people. what makes you think the Wii sold so much if not for being the cheapest console of the three? You use the lead PS3 has in Japan but the same isnt applied to the lead 360 has in US? That hypocritical to say the least (the lead of the PS3 in japan is 6.6 million while the lead the 360 has in US is 15 million btw) As I pointed out 5 million (EU) + 1.5 (rest of the world) = 6.5 million) So take US (biggest 360 market) and Japan (biggest PS3 market) and the difference is 6.5 million. Thats definitely not little when it has been 1 year less on the market, one and HALF in several parts of the world, including EU

Vatusus

1st of all they're excuses whether you like it or not. Sony had everything going for them and THEY decided on the high price point, THEY decided to include BR and THEY decided to launch it later. Those are all true so Sony has NOONE to blame but themselves.

2nd Cheaper doesn't always mean it'll sell. The Wii sold so much because it was uniqe and appealed to a broader fanbase. Being cheaper might have helped but it wasn't the only or deciding factor when people ran out and bought it.

3rd the PS3 sells well in NA but can you say the same for the 360 in Japan? It sell less than 1k a week in Japan while the PS3 sells at the very lease over 100k - 200k in NA and on BF week it hit 500k+. Did the 360 sell anything close to those numbers in Japan? Does the PS3 sell 20x less than the 360 in NA? I didn't think so and that's why I used Japan.

You can keep bringing EU but fact remains 360 sells more in the UK than PS3 and the UK is the biggest market in EU. You sound more and more like a butthurt cow than anything else. Sony lost this gen plain and simple. MS didn't win but they sure helped their cause and made the XBOX brand a house hold name. I can't say Sony did anything to help PS brand much.

1st. Yes, never said otherwise. My point was, MS has alot to thank for Sony mistakes, more then their own merit

2nd. Also true, but being cheaper it always helps. The 3DS wasnt selling enough until the price cut. Vita is struggling mostly because of the price (its price and Memory Cards price)

3rd. The 360 just dont catter to Japanese audiences. Besides a couple of JRPGs that came out at the beggining of the gen it has nothing more for the japanese audiences. The PS3 however has plenty of games that catter both to japanese and western audiences. I dont get why theres that stigma that Japanese dont buy the 360 because they're "racists". Truth is MS did a bad job in japan while the PS3 didnt in the US

Uk IS the biggest market in EU BUT isnt bigger than the rest of EU, not even close

And no, I'm no cow, I just state facts. I'm a cow because I aknowledge one simple fact that is common knowledge by know? Its a FACT the PS3 has a bigger sales/year ratio WW. If I'm a cow for presenting one simple truth what that makes of you? A lem for denying it when the facts are presented to you

Hand helds are slightly different than consoles. They're supposed to be cheaper than for on the go gaming and thus the reason people didn't buy them. Having Vita and DS as much as a console with inferior games didn't make much sense so a price cut helped the DS out a lot. The Vita could also sel well with a nice price drop but for whatever reason Sony is holding back.

Yes I agree, 360 games do not cater to the Japansese market so I can understand why they won't purchase it. Still the fact remains that it sells extremely poor to the point where it's almost nonexisitent. You have to admit, noone thought MS could sell this many 360s with just 2 markets selling well while the others were luke warm.

I wasn't denying any facts. I've never claimed 360s sell the most WW every year. Fact that is did out sell the PS3 WW last year proves that it does in fact sell well enough WW to be competitve. It's not a masacre like some people say.

I'm no lem, i'm more of an anti-fanboy than anything. I have 1 console game at the moment (Dark Souls PS3) and ZERO games for my XBOX and I don't pay for LIVE. I play on the PC most of the time (Batman AC, BF3, CODBO2, Dead Space 2 and Guild Wars 2) and only play on my consoles when I get tired of sitting at my desk.

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200.000 is nothing for the ps3 worldwide. The Domination won :cool: Is safe to say the PS3 surpassed the 360 and the 360 is now eating Domination dust.
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#182 Blabadon
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200.000 is nothing for the ps3 worldwide. The Domination won :cool: Is safe to say the PS3 surpassed the 360 and the 360 is now eating Domination dust.kuraimen
After it got beat by the 360 and was already losing to it in sales? No way.
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#183 everythingcasua
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microsoft isnt trying anymore because they already made it in the industry compared to first starting out. they put more effort into xbox franchise in 2001/2002.
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#184 Badosh
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microsoft isnt trying anymore because they already made it in the industry compared to first starting out. they put more effort into xbox franchise in 2001/2002.everythingcasua
Sweet.

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Somebody been working - real hard - on the math...
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#187 blackace
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200.000 is nothing for the ps3 worldwide. The Domination won :cool: Is safe to say the PS3 surpassed the 360 and the 360 is now eating Domination dust.kuraimen
Imagination... Imagination... Quit daydreaming.
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#188 shellcase86
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That's very solid for them given the higher cost of purchase. Regarding PS Plus, I'm going to jump on board any day now. Way too many deals on there.