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#1 Michael85
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Should we just brace for impact, sheep?

You know the game's going to be great. I know the game's going to be great. The haters know it's going to be great. But, according to GS's review of Scarface, their biggest gripe with the controls was having to keep the pointerin the center of the screen.

Now, the only real problem here is that, apparently, GS is an old dinosaur who can't manage to learn a new control scheme. Hell, Call of Duty made you keep the pointer in the center, and GS flopped it. They're going to base their entire view of Metroid on their inability to play it.

Last I checked, Greg didn't flop Ninja Gaiden because a lot of people sucked at it. But I guess since he's gone, there's no one to come in and say, "Dude, you suck at the game; don't count that against it".

*sigh* We're gonna have a helluva flame war when Metroid gets flopped (notice I say "gets flopped" instead of "flops", because anyone with half a brain knows it's AAA).

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#3 TheOwnerOner
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Why dont you take your Kiddy/Casual BS somewhere else,

No one here cares for the Wii

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#4 tag_001
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Why dont you take your Kiddy/Casual BS somewhere else,

No one here cares for the Wii

TheOwnerOner

So how's your 12th Xbox 360? See I can be just as stupid.

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#5 Yagami-Iori
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Why dont you take your Kiddy/Casual BS somewhere else,

No one here cares for the Wii

TheOwnerOner

Yeah, how dare you have to hold a controller forward, that's too damn hard! I mean, effort outside of thumbs?!? It's all caual BS!!!

/sarcasm

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#6 Solid-CELL
Member since 2006 • 5910 Posts

Why dont you take your Kiddy/Casual BS somewhere else,

No one here cares for the Wii

TheOwnerOner
wrong.
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#7 WINDWAKER1
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Why dont you take your Kiddy/Casual BS somewhere else,

No one here cares for the Wii

TheOwnerOner

You're not very bright are you?

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#8 danneswegman
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metroid is first party and nothing like scarface.

/thread

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#10 Grayden
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Retro is a damn good developer and i have every confidence that they will deliver another AAA metroid Prime game :)
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#11 Darthmatt
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Retro said they would offer multiple control configurations. Maybe GS reviewers can find a happy medium.
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#12 GunSmith1_basic
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I dont think they flopped scarface because you had to keep your pointer in the middle of the screen. FYI, I agree with you that it's not that big a deal to keep the pointer centered. There should still be moments every once and a while where you can set it down competely. Maybe, your aim is usually standard aim, but if you hold down a button you switch to a cursor mode until you let go of it.
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#13 Bill_McBlumpkin
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Now that GS is destined to flop Metroid

Michael85

Uh.... what?

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#14 tree-branch
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gamespot wont flop metroif prime,

metroid prime will flop itself by it being a bad game.

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#15 TheOwnerOner
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It's Metriod Gamecube,

just add kiddie controls and,

WHA LA! MP3!

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#16 NobuoMusicMaker
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[QUOTE="TheOwnerOner"]

Why dont you take your Kiddy/Casual BS somewhere else,

No one here cares for the Wii

Yagami-Iori

Yeah, how dare you have to hold a controller forward, that's too damn hard! I mean, effort outside of thumbs?!? It's all caual BS!!!

/sarcasm

How about doing that for 10 hours?

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#17 WINDWAKER1
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gamespot wont flop metroif prime,

metroid prime will flop itself by it being a bad game.

tree-branch

The past two games have been AAA, what makes you think it will be bad?

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[QUOTE="tag_001"][QUOTE="TheOwnerOner"]

Why dont you take your Kiddy/Casual BS somewhere else,

No one here cares for the Wii

TheOwnerOner

So how's your 12th Xbox 360? See I can be just as stupid.

1st 360 since launch,

I'm guessing you like to play pokemon dress-up

There's a pokemon dress up game?

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#19 WINDWAKER1
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It's Metriod Gamecube,

just add kiddie controls and,

WHA LA! MP3!

TheOwnerOner

What is kiddie about the controls? Is manhunt two kiddie for having wii controls?

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#20 tree-branch
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[QUOTE="tree-branch"]

gamespot wont flop metroif prime,

metroid prime will flop itself by it being a bad game.

WINDWAKER1

The past two games have been AAA, what makes you think it will be bad?

because it looks bad.

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#21 TheOwnerOner
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[QUOTE="TheOwnerOner"][QUOTE="tag_001"][QUOTE="TheOwnerOner"]

Why dont you take your Kiddy/Casual BS somewhere else,

No one here cares for the Wii

Supafly1

So how's your 12th Xbox 360? See I can be just as stupid.

1st 360 since launch,

I'm guessing you like to play pokemon dress-up

There's a pokemon dress up game?

Wii Exclusive

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#22 Yagami-Iori
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[QUOTE="Yagami-Iori"][QUOTE="TheOwnerOner"]

Why dont you take your Kiddy/Casual BS somewhere else,

No one here cares for the Wii

NobuoMusicMaker

Yeah, how dare you have to hold a controller forward, that's too damn hard! I mean, effort outside of thumbs?!? It's all caual BS!!!

/sarcasm

How about doing that for 10 hours?

Ok, don't know why that text didn't go through...

Like I typed before, you don't need to actually hodl your arm straight out, just use an arm rest or something. It's not that hard to figure out... well, for some people.

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#23 JPOBS
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has it ever occured to you that maybe the control scheme just sucks ass? Maybe, just maybe, the control deservedly should be the downfall of the game?

No, you're too worried about the score they attach to it, as oppose to the game's accual faults.

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#24 SecretPolice
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gamespot wont flop metroif prime,

metroid prime will flop itself by it being a bad game.

tree-branch
If released in a vacum then yes Metroid would be all the rage but in the real world it will seem nothing compared to the likes of the Bungie opus that is " Halo 3 - Finish The fight. IMHO
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#25 TheOwnerOner
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[QUOTE="TheOwnerOner"]

It's Metriod Gamecube,

just add kiddie controls and,

WHA LA! MP3!

WINDWAKER1

What is kiddie about the controls? Is manhunt two kiddie for having wii controls?

Manhunt's training wheels for kiddies going through "puperdy".

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#26 WINDWAKER1
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[QUOTE="WINDWAKER1"][QUOTE="tree-branch"]

gamespot wont flop metroif prime,

metroid prime will flop itself by it being a bad game.

tree-branch

The past two games have been AAA, what makes you think it will be bad?

because it looks bad.

Well, you could try taking off your fanboy glasses, but i can't really argue with an opinion, to me it looks like a great game

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#27 Spartan070
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Why dont you take your Kiddy/Casual BS somewhere else,

No one here cares for the Wii

TheOwnerOner

:| SW at its worst^

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#28 tree-branch
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[QUOTE="tree-branch"][QUOTE="WINDWAKER1"][QUOTE="tree-branch"]

gamespot wont flop metroif prime,

metroid prime will flop itself by it being a bad game.

WINDWAKER1

The past two games have been AAA, what makes you think it will be bad?

because it looks bad.

Well, you could try taking off your fanboy glasses, but i can't really argue with an opinion, to me it looks like a great game

the last screens looked horrible and the controll scheme looks dumb.

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#29 beerm_basic
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flop metroid cause it "looks bad" wow just wow. Its not on the 360 or ps3 so its not going to have mind blowing graphics so it should flop for that reason. How stupid can you get?!?!?!

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#30 Eponique
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[QUOTE="Supafly1"][QUOTE="TheOwnerOner"][QUOTE="tag_001"][QUOTE="TheOwnerOner"]

Why dont you take your Kiddy/Casual BS somewhere else,

No one here cares for the Wii

TheOwnerOner

So how's your 12th Xbox 360? See I can be just as stupid.

1st 360 since launch,

I'm guessing you like to play pokemon dress-up

There's a pokemon dress up game?

Wii Exclusive

Pokemon Snap > Halo ^^

Just because you keep your first XBOX doesn't mean you don't have your 9th one lying around...

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#31 Rahnyc4
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all this type is making me excited to play metroid prime 3. im about to go to youtube and watch some videos for this game again.

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#32 Michael85
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metroid is first party and nothing like scarface.

/thread

danneswegman

You misinterpret my post. I'm not bashing the game, I'm bashing GS's inability to hold a pointer steady.

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#33 PullTheTricker
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All I care about is Mario Galaxy... if this game flops like Sunshine did then this will be a big disappointment to me.

For fps genre Halo 3 will be mine.

Gamespot score is nothing official. There is www.gamerankings.com for that ;)

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#34 Tylendal
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I have heard nothing but good things about Metroid Prime 3's control scheme.

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#35 Michael85
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I have heard nothing but good things about Metroid Prime 3's control scheme.

Tylendal

Once again, yes, I agree, and it's going to be awesome. The problem is that, apparently, GS doesn't like using the pointer constantly.

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#36 mijkil
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I find it amazing that the same group of fanboys that spend so much time trying to kid themselves that they dont really care about GTA4, are crying over a review of a lame gta rip-off that absolutley noone else cares about.
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#37 Bread_or_Decide
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Scarface =/= Metroid Prime 3.

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#38 Nedemis
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[QUOTE="TheOwnerOner"]

Why dont you take your Kiddy/Casual BS somewhere else,

No one here cares for the Wii

WINDWAKER1

You're not very bright are you?

No he's not.

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I find it amazing that the same group of fanboys that spend so much time trying to kid themselves that they dont really care about GTA4, are crying over a review of a lame gta rip-off that absolutley noone else cares about.mijkil

I know. Apparently nothing on the Wii can possibly suck. Waggle makes everything better, I guess it doesn't.

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#40 Bread_or_Decide
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[QUOTE="Tylendal"]

I have heard nothing but good things about Metroid Prime 3's control scheme.

Michael85

Once again, yes, I agree, and it's going to be awesome. The problem is that, apparently, GS doesn't like using the pointer constantly.

Its not about using the pointer its about the screen moving any time you need to scratch an itch or set the controller down.

Here is a good idea, any time you want to move the pointer on screen you have to hold down the button on the nunchuk. Then you release when you don't. Keeping it constant isn't necessary.

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#41 subrosian
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Scarface got the review it deserved for being nothing more than a PS2 port with a Wiimote strapped to it. Get over it. Every time Jeff has the balls to be honest about yet another developer throwing a shoddy game on the Wii, all the Nintendo fanboys attack him for it. Are you really so blind that you want every reviewer to automatically hand out 7.0+ scores, just so you can gloat about how "great" the Wii is? Pathetic

GS flopped Shadowrun, did the 360 fanboys make thousands of forum posts about how "great" Shadowrun is, and how GS is biased, and they were just "too lazy" to deal with the ass-backwards LIVE interface on PC? No. They accepted that Shadowrun failed to live up to the epic source material, took the game for what it is, and moved on with their lives.

The only people who are deciding whether Metroid Prime 3 flops right now are working for Nintendo, not CNN - and if MP3 gets a bad review score it will be because Nintendo failed to deliver a quality game. Instead of chanting "MP3 is a good game, you know it will be, blah blah blah" based on a game *you've never seen or played* why not wait and see what Nintendo delivers? The only guarantee is that, just like the Twilight Princess review, if MP3 isn't handed a AAA score, Nintendo fans will be bashing the review, and the reviewer, before they've even played the game.

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#42 Eponique
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I find it amazing that the same group of fanboys that spend so much time trying to kid themselves that they dont really care about GTA4, are crying over a review of a lame gta rip-off that absolutley noone else cares about.mijkil

Samus in London, now that'd be something.

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[QUOTE="WINDWAKER1"][QUOTE="tree-branch"][QUOTE="WINDWAKER1"][QUOTE="tree-branch"]

gamespot wont flop metroif prime,

metroid prime will flop itself by it being a bad game.

tree-branch

The past two games have been AAA, what makes you think it will be bad?

because it looks bad.

Well, you could try taking off your fanboy glasses, but i can't really argue with an opinion, to me it looks like a great game

the last screens looked horrible and the controll scheme looks dumb.

but you would get the ps2 version yea

wait for the review if they say the control scheme is good you will still bash it as your anti nintendo thou yes?

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#44 wannweed
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[QUOTE="WINDWAKER1"][QUOTE="tree-branch"]

gamespot wont flop metroif prime,

metroid prime will flop itself by it being a bad game.

tree-branch

The past two games have been AAA, what makes you think it will be bad?

because it looks bad.

and halo looks

(halo is a good game though)

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#45 Tylendal
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[QUOTE="mijkil"]I find it amazing that the same group of fanboys that spend so much time trying to kid themselves that they dont really care about GTA4, are crying over a review of a lame gta rip-off that absolutley noone else cares about.Eponique

Samus in London, now that'd be something.

They had GTA in 1984? :o

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#46 jessesalinas
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the past metroid games have been AAA. :roll:

Scarface just sucks and it has nothing to do with Metroid. :?

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#47 haziqonfire
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im not even going to bother hyping it, i can see it now '8.8'

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#48 Tylendal
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[QUOTE="Michael85"][QUOTE="Tylendal"]

I have heard nothing but good things about Metroid Prime 3's control scheme.

Bread_or_Decide

Once again, yes, I agree, and it's going to be awesome. The problem is that, apparently, GS doesn't like using the pointer constantly.

Its not about using the pointer its about the screen moving any time you need to scratch an itch or set the controller down.

Here is a good idea, any time you want to move the pointer on screen you have to hold down the button on the nunchuk. Then you release when you don't. Keeping it constant isn't necessary.

Actually, I think you'll turn with the Analog stick, just like in the first two.

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#49 Bread_or_Decide
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Scarface got the review it deserved for being nothing more than a PS2 port with a Wiimote strapped to it. Get over it. Every time Jeff has the balls to be honest about yet another developer throwing a shoddy game on the Wii, all the Nintendo fanboys attack him for it. Are you really so blind that you want every reviewer to automatically hand out 7.0+ scores, just so you can gloat about how "great" the Wii is? Pathetic

GS flopped Shadowrun, did the 360 fanboys make thousands of forum posts about how "great" Shadowrun is, and how GS is biased, and they were just "too lazy" to deal with the ass-backwards LIVE interface on PC? No. They accepted that Shadowrun failed to live up to the epic source material, took the game for what it is, and moved on with their lives.

The only people who are deciding whether Metroid Prime 3 flops right now are working for Nintendo, not CNN - and if MP3 gets a bad review score it will be because Nintendo failed to deliver a quality game. Instead of chanting "MP3 is a good game, you know it will be, blah blah blah" based on a game *you've never seen or played* why not wait and see what Nintendo delivers? The only guarantee is that, just like the Twilight Princess review, if MP3 isn't handed a AAA score, Nintendo fans will be bashing the review, and the reviewer, before they've even played the game.

subrosian

Sheep are the entitlement fanboys. "Nintendo saved gaming we deserve it!" "Nintendo is classic they deserve it!" "Wii is innovative it deserves it!"

Good grief I've never seen a group of fanboys who want all the glory based on reputation alone.

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#50 GunSmith1_basic
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Scarface got the review it deserved for being nothing more than a PS2 port with a Wiimote strapped to it. Get over it. Every time Jeff has the balls to be honest about yet another developer throwing a shoddy game on the Wii, all the Nintendo fanboys attack him for it. Are you really so blind that you want every reviewer to automatically hand out 7.0+ scores, just so you can gloat about how "great" the Wii is? Pathetic

GS flopped Shadowrun, did the 360 fanboys make thousands of forum posts about how "great" Shadowrun is, and how GS is biased, and they were just "too lazy" to deal with the ass-backwards LIVE interface on PC? No. They accepted that Shadowrun failed to live up to the epic source material, took the game for what it is, and moved on with their lives.

The only people who are deciding whether Metroid Prime 3 flops right now are working for Nintendo, not CNN - and if MP3 gets a bad review score it will be because Nintendo failed to deliver a quality game. Instead of chanting "MP3 is a good game, you know it will be, blah blah blah" based on a game *you've never seen or played* why not wait and see what Nintendo delivers? The only guarantee is that, just like the Twilight Princess review, if MP3 isn't handed a AAA score, Nintendo fans will be bashing the review, and the reviewer, before they've even played the game.

subrosian
That's a very healthy way of looking at it. For one, it acknowledges that scores dont matter if the game is fun. The developer makes the game good orbad, not the reviewer. Also, low scores challenge devs to make games better, so I dont see what the big problem is. People say that scores are inflated on the 360, well if that's true then it's to the detriment of gamers on that platform.