Now that PS3 has failed, what console would you buy?

It's still early in the "New Gen", and already the PS3 is looking to be sinking faster than the Titanic. The PS3 is sitting in last place and isn't making any ground on the Wii or 360, and is in fact losing ground to both consoles. And at $600, the PS3 has crashed landed without even taking off.

For all of you people still sitting on the fence about buying a new console, which one would you prefer? This poll is for people that haven't bought a "Next Gen" machine yet, or for current PS3 owners that will have to purchase a new console.

The Wii, and inexpensive console with the unique fun controller, Mario and Zelda galore, limited multimedia features, limited online that is free, geared much more to the casual gamers.

Or the 360, a more expensive console with superior hardware and a great online but have to pay a fee each year, Halo and GTA galore, great multimedia functions, geared more to the hardcore gamers.

 

AgentVX

you failed 

It's still early in the "New Gen", and already the PS3 is looking to be sinking faster than the Titanic.  The PS3 is sitting in last place and isn't making any ground on the Wii or 360, and is in fact losing ground to both consoles.  And at $600, the PS3 has crashed landed without even taking off.

For all of you people still sitting on the fence about buying a new console, which one would you prefer?  This poll is for people that haven't bought a "Next Gen" machine yet, or for current PS3 owners that will have to purchase a new console.

The Wii, and inexpensive console with the unique fun controller, Mario and Zelda galore, limited multimedia features, limited online that is free, geared much more to the casual gamers.

Or the 360, a more expensive console with superior hardware and a great online but have to pay a fee each year, Halo and GTA galore, great multimedia functions, geared more to the hardcore gamers.

 

AgentVX

The really sad thing is with some of the ridiculous statement you people will be adults someday............that is really scary

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[QUOTE="flashattackfina"]how can something that been out for 6 months failtango90101

Ask the Atari Jaguar, and Sega CD, 32X and Sony PSX about that...Systems made from reputable companies that immediately flopped. The PS3 is not immune to failure, it has became the epitome of failure this gen.

Game On...

This is where I get confused. You do realize PS3 is tracking the SAME as X360 was last year right? Doesn't that mean both X360 and PS3 are failures?

i dont' think that's true...

besides, it shouldn't be keep pace with the 360...it should be CRUSHING it...

so far they've penetrated 1% of their existing customerbase..

no matter how you spin it; that's failure...

so much so, it cost Kuturagi his job. You don't think he would have been asked to leave if they sold millions do you? of course not...;)

Why do this ;)  after making up stuff?

The PS3 will be better than fine it will be the machine to beat again, I think you guys fail to see why all PS3 owners are loyal and stand behind this machine. The one thing we all have in common is knowing that once this machine hits its stride there will be no looking back. I already know you are going to say Waitstation but remember Gears of War came out a year after XBOX 360 launch and up till than the system had not one killer app. 

[QUOTE="Not-A-Stalker"][QUOTE="MCGSMB"]

[QUOTE="flashattackfina"]how can something that been out for 6 months failPhilosoma

Just look at it. It's only been out for 6 months and it's already lost a bunch of exclusives, it's losing Sony a bunch of money,
and nobody wants one.

FF13 will be coming out on 360

False. A LOT of people want one, but simply can't afford it.

Yeah totally.

Anyhow, when MGS4 and FF13 come out, people will end up paying to play anyhow - but it's a manticore eat everything else world. 

[QUOTE="darthogre"][QUOTE="FatalDomain"]

[QUOTE="flashattackfina"]how can something that been out for 6 months failtango90101

Ask the Atari Jaguar, and Sega CD, 32X and Sony PSX about that...Systems made from reputable companies that immediately flopped. The PS3 is not immune to failure, it has became the epitome of failure this gen.

Game On... 

This is where I get confused.  You do realize PS3 is tracking the SAME as X360 was last year right?  Doesn't that mean both X360 and PS3 are failures?

i dont' think that's true...

 besides, it shouldn't be keep pace with the 360...it should be CRUSHING it...

so far they've penetrated 1% of their existing customerbase..

no matter how you spin it; that's failure...

so much so, it cost Kuturagi his job.  You don't think he would have been asked to leave if they sold millions do you?  of course not...;)

INstalled user base is nearly identical.  I'm not making opinion (like some people on this post), I'm stating fact. 

You can spin it anyway you want.....the fact remains if the PS3 is one big failure, X360 is in the exact same boat.  The only winner atm is the Wii.  That's using fanboy logic of course.

[QUOTE="tango90101"][QUOTE="darthogre"][QUOTE="FatalDomain"]

[QUOTE="flashattackfina"]how can something that been out for 6 months faildarthogre

Ask the Atari Jaguar, and Sega CD, 32X and Sony PSX about that...Systems made from reputable companies that immediately flopped. The PS3 is not immune to failure, it has became the epitome of failure this gen.

Game On...

This is where I get confused. You do realize PS3 is tracking the SAME as X360 was last year right? Doesn't that mean both X360 and PS3 are failures?

i dont' think that's true...

besides, it shouldn't be keep pace with the 360...it should be CRUSHING it...

so far they've penetrated 1% of their existing customerbase..

no matter how you spin it; that's failure...

so much so, it cost Kuturagi his job. You don't think he would have been asked to leave if they sold millions do you? of course not...;)

INstalled user base is nearly identical. I'm not making opinion (like some people on this post), I'm stating fact.

You can spin it anyway you want.....the fact remains if the PS3 is one big failure, X360 is in the exact same boat. The only winner atm is the Wii. That's using fanboy logic of course.

There is no spin about it and its a very simple concept to understand why Sony is failing...The problem is that Sony became the "Nintendo" of the last decade. Meaning, the average gamers associates Playstation when videogames are mentioned. You need to break away from this mold and look at the situation from a business point of view.

Company A has 10 mil sold

Company B has 6 mil sold

Company C has 3 mil sold

In order for Company C to gain some ground on B and A, that company would need to steadily outperform company A and B. Since Company C is performing less and less each month, how do you expect the company to magically pull through? Its very simple to understand how the PS3 is failing but people efuse to listen to the truth. If the 360 or Wii was underperforming like the PS3, the industry would have written off these consoles immediately but since its a Sony, its doing just fine!!!

Game On... 

[QUOTE="darthogre"][QUOTE="tango90101"][QUOTE="darthogre"][QUOTE="FatalDomain"]

[QUOTE="flashattackfina"]how can something that been out for 6 months failFatalDomain

Ask the Atari Jaguar, and Sega CD, 32X and Sony PSX about that...Systems made from reputable companies that immediately flopped. The PS3 is not immune to failure, it has became the epitome of failure this gen.

Game On...

This is where I get confused. You do realize PS3 is tracking the SAME as X360 was last year right? Doesn't that mean both X360 and PS3 are failures?

i dont' think that's true...

besides, it shouldn't be keep pace with the 360...it should be CRUSHING it...

so far they've penetrated 1% of their existing customerbase..

no matter how you spin it; that's failure...

so much so, it cost Kuturagi his job. You don't think he would have been asked to leave if they sold millions do you? of course not...;)

INstalled user base is nearly identical. I'm not making opinion (like some people on this post), I'm stating fact.

You can spin it anyway you want.....the fact remains if the PS3 is one big failure, X360 is in the exact same boat. The only winner atm is the Wii. That's using fanboy logic of course.

There is no spin about it and its a very simple concept to understand why Sony is failing...The problem is that Sony became the "Nintendo" of the last decade. Meaning, the average gamers associates Playstation when videogames are mentioned. You need to break away from this mold and look at the situation from a business point of view.

Company A has 10 mil sold

Company B has 6 mil sold

Company C has 3 mil sold

In order for Company C to gain some ground on B and A, that company would need to steadily outperform company A and B. Since Company C is performing less and less each month, how do you expect the company to magically pull through? Its very simple to understand how the PS3 is failing but people efuse to listen to the truth. If the 360 or Wii was underperforming like the PS3, the industry would have written off these consoles immediately but since its a Sony, its doing just fine!!!

Game On... 

Why am I reminded of that old Adam Sandler movie, Billy Madison, when reading your reasoning.....you know the part where Adam Sandler answers a question at the end of the moive and it basically made absoultely no sense. 

Both the X360 and PS3 are in the same boat, they are underperforming.  Why, because both had no games at this early of their lifecycle.  Also they are both expensive, and yes the X360 is still expensive.  No one in their right mind was predicting SOE to sale at the same rate of PS2......it's not possible when it costs twice as much at launch.  Every single Rep I talked to at E3 last year said PS3 will EVENTUALLY win, it'll just be closer this time around.  Are they failures.....it's really way to early to tell.  Heck the Wii could fizzle out, we just don't know yet.  I think the PS3 has an uphill battle to reclaim it's throne, no doubt.  The part where I disagree with you is the fact that it's game over, PS3 failure.....X360 and Wii are winners.  If the PS3 cuts it's price of the PS3 this year, SOE will end up winning this war I bet.

[QUOTE="tango90101"][QUOTE="darthogre"][QUOTE="FatalDomain"]

[QUOTE="flashattackfina"]how can something that been out for 6 months failKhansoul

Ask the Atari Jaguar, and Sega CD, 32X and Sony PSX about that...Systems made from reputable companies that immediately flopped. The PS3 is not immune to failure, it has became the epitome of failure this gen.

Game On...

This is where I get confused. You do realize PS3 is tracking the SAME as X360 was last year right? Doesn't that mean both X360 and PS3 are failures?

i dont' think that's true...

besides, it shouldn't be keep pace with the 360...it should be CRUSHING it...

so far they've penetrated 1% of their existing customerbase..

no matter how you spin it; that's failure...

so much so, it cost Kuturagi his job. You don't think he would have been asked to leave if they sold millions do you? of course not...;)

Why do this ;)  after making up stuff?

The PS3 will be better than fine it will be the machine to beat again, I think you guys fail to see why all PS3 owners are loyal and stand behind this machine. The one thing we all have in common is knowing that once this machine hits its stride there will be no looking back. I already know you are going to say Waitstation but remember Gears of War came out a year after XBOX 360 launch and up till than the system had not one killer app. 

paraphrased:  "Just wait"...

not thanks.. the wait isn't worth $600.... plus game.. plus headset....plus hdmi cable....

it's funny you claim the 360 had not "killer app" but sold very, very well and enjoyed a high attach ratio..

hmmm...

[QUOTE="FatalDomain"][QUOTE="darthogre"][QUOTE="tango90101"][QUOTE="darthogre"][QUOTE="FatalDomain"]

[QUOTE="flashattackfina"]how can something that been out for 6 months faildarthogre

Ask the Atari Jaguar, and Sega CD, 32X and Sony PSX about that...Systems made from reputable companies that immediately flopped. The PS3 is not immune to failure, it has became the epitome of failure this gen.

Game On...

This is where I get confused. You do realize PS3 is tracking the SAME as X360 was last year right? Doesn't that mean both X360 and PS3 are failures?

i dont' think that's true...

besides, it shouldn't be keep pace with the 360...it should be CRUSHING it...

so far they've penetrated 1% of their existing customerbase..

no matter how you spin it; that's failure...

so much so, it cost Kuturagi his job. You don't think he would have been asked to leave if they sold millions do you? of course not...;)

INstalled user base is nearly identical. I'm not making opinion (like some people on this post), I'm stating fact.

You can spin it anyway you want.....the fact remains if the PS3 is one big failure, X360 is in the exact same boat. The only winner atm is the Wii. That's using fanboy logic of course.

There is no spin about it and its a very simple concept to understand why Sony is failing...The problem is that Sony became the "Nintendo" of the last decade. Meaning, the average gamers associates Playstation when videogames are mentioned. You need to break away from this mold and look at the situation from a business point of view.

Company A has 10 mil sold

Company B has 6 mil sold

Company C has 3 mil sold

In order for Company C to gain some ground on B and A, that company would need to steadily outperform company A and B. Since Company C is performing less and less each month, how do you expect the company to magically pull through? Its very simple to understand how the PS3 is failing but people efuse to listen to the truth. If the 360 or Wii was underperforming like the PS3, the industry would have written off these consoles immediately but since its a Sony, its doing just fine!!!

Game On... 

Why am I reminded of that old Adam Sandler movie, Billy Madison, when reading your reasoning.....you know the part where Adam Sandler answers a question at the end of the moive and it basically made absoultely no sense. 

Both the X360 and PS3 are in the same boat, they are underperforming.  Why, because both had no games at this early of their lifecycle.  Also they are both expensive, and yes the X360 is still expensive.  No one in their right mind was predicting SOE to sale at the same rate of PS2......it's not possible when it costs twice as much at launch.  Every single Rep I talked to at E3 last year said PS3 will EVENTUALLY win, it'll just be closer this time around.  Are they failures.....it's really way to early to tell.  Heck the Wii could fizzle out, we just don't know yet.  I think the PS3 has an uphill battle to reclaim it's throne, no doubt.  The part where I disagree with you is the fact that it's game over, PS3 failure.....X360 and Wii are winners.  If the PS3 cuts it's price of the PS3 this year, SOE will end up winning this war I bet.

to say the 360 is "underperforming" while taking the #1 worldwide position and with only 5 years of branding, is hugely laughable...

the ps3 however, with it's "100 million users" from last gen, is underperforming from these numbers...

Why am I reminded of that old Adam Sandler movie, Billy Madison, when reading your reasoning.....you know the part where Adam Sandler answers a question at the end of the moive and it basically made absoultely no sense.

Both the X360 and PS3 are in the same boat, they are underperforming. Why, because both had no games at this early of their lifecycle. Also they are both expensive, and yes the X360 is still expensive. No one in their right mind was predicting SOE to sale at the same rate of PS2......it's not possible when it costs twice as much at launch. Every single Rep I talked to at E3 last year said PS3 will EVENTUALLY win, it'll just be closer this time around. Are they failures.....it's really way to early to tell. Heck the Wii could fizzle out, we just don't know yet. I think the PS3 has an uphill battle to reclaim it's throne, no doubt. The part where I disagree with you is the fact that it's game over, PS3 failure.....X360 and Wii are winners. If the PS3 cuts it's price of the PS3 this year, SOE will end up winning this war I bet.

darthogre

I agree. For anyone to say something is a failure after just a few months on the market is nonsense. If I can remember correctly, the 360 was hurting when it first launched as well. Hell, I didn't buy one until Gears came out, which warranted a purchase, plus the Live Arcade. Before that, I didn't find any games that peaked my interest as a consumer, as I bought Oblivion for the PC.

I think when the PS3 gets a price cut, this will really spark sales figures, as many PS2 owners are still holding out, and I think that's pretty evident when you look at how many next-gen systems have been sold, very little in comparison to last gen, more specifically the PS2. A lot of those people are still gamers, so where are they? This leads me to believe the market is largely untapped, and to speculate on failure of any system at this point is premature. I don't think multiplatform development is going to hurt Sony as much as everyone is believing. People have to remember that Sony has a very appealing name brand in electronics that a lot of people would rather choose over the competition. A few exclusives are definitely needed, but Sony's name is still going to carry forward, at least with my friends that were huge PS2 fans. Most of the people I know are only really into games like Madden, and even though the 360 came out with much better graphics, all of them bought the PS2 version, as they refuse to buy another console other than a Sony Brand. I think Sony's biggest enemy is itself, as they keep releasing PS2 games, and I see it first hand, further enabling PS2 owners in delaying the purchase of the PS3, especially since the $500 version of the PS3 is no more.

This holiday season will be a decent benchmark, but I would still say it's to early at that point. This is probably when Sony will drop their price, and probably MS as well. Nintendo is sitting nicely right now, and expect prices to remain the same, especially with the demand shortages.

[QUOTE="FatalDomain"][QUOTE="darthogre"][QUOTE="tango90101"][QUOTE="darthogre"][QUOTE="FatalDomain"]

[QUOTE="flashattackfina"]how can something that been out for 6 months faildarthogre

Ask the Atari Jaguar, and Sega CD, 32X and Sony PSX about that...Systems made from reputable companies that immediately flopped. The PS3 is not immune to failure, it has became the epitome of failure this gen.

Game On...

This is where I get confused. You do realize PS3 is tracking the SAME as X360 was last year right? Doesn't that mean both X360 and PS3 are failures?

i dont' think that's true...

besides, it shouldn't be keep pace with the 360...it should be CRUSHING it...

so far they've penetrated 1% of their existing customerbase..

no matter how you spin it; that's failure...

so much so, it cost Kuturagi his job. You don't think he would have been asked to leave if they sold millions do you? of course not...;)

INstalled user base is nearly identical. I'm not making opinion (like some people on this post), I'm stating fact.

You can spin it anyway you want.....the fact remains if the PS3 is one big failure, X360 is in the exact same boat. The only winner atm is the Wii. That's using fanboy logic of course.

There is no spin about it and its a very simple concept to understand why Sony is failing...The problem is that Sony became the "Nintendo" of the last decade. Meaning, the average gamers associates Playstation when videogames are mentioned. You need to break away from this mold and look at the situation from a business point of view.

Company A has 10 mil sold

Company B has 6 mil sold

Company C has 3 mil sold

In order for Company C to gain some ground on B and A, that company would need to steadily outperform company A and B. Since Company C is performing less and less each month, how do you expect the company to magically pull through? Its very simple to understand how the PS3 is failing but people efuse to listen to the truth. If the 360 or Wii was underperforming like the PS3, the industry would have written off these consoles immediately but since its a Sony, its doing just fine!!!

Game On...

Why am I reminded of that old Adam Sandler movie, Billy Madison, when reading your reasoning.....you know the part where Adam Sandler answers a question at the end of the moive and it basically made absoultely no sense.

Both the X360 and PS3 are in the same boat, they are underperforming. Why, because both had no games at this early of their lifecycle. Also they are both expensive, and yes the X360 is still expensive. No one in their right mind was predicting SOE to sale at the same rate of PS2......it's not possible when it costs twice as much at launch. Every single Rep I talked to at E3 last year said PS3 will EVENTUALLY win, it'll just be closer this time around. Are they failures.....it's really way to early to tell. Heck the Wii could fizzle out, we just don't know yet. I think the PS3 has an uphill battle to reclaim it's throne, no doubt. The part where I disagree with you is the fact that it's game over, PS3 failure.....X360 and Wii are winners. If the PS3 cuts it's price of the PS3 this year, SOE will end up winning this war I bet.

So in your mind the PS3 and the 360 are in the exact same boat? How is that? How can a console with 10 mil sold be compared to a console with 3 mil sold? The console race is not a competition of timelines (360 sold x amount in six months vs. PS3 sold in six months), it is based on the current performance on the market...Why cant the Sony fans understand that?!?!? The PS3 doesnt get any sympathy because its software lineup is weak versus the competition with AAA titles. It doesnt get a break because a console that was deemed "a fad" that launched two days after has 50%more in sales. And it doesnt get special treatment because its online system isnt quite up to par. Where do you guys get your information to skew and twist to make it seem as if Sony is doing a excellent job with this system?

What kind of logic do you use that says a system that is dwindling is sales each month is going to make a drastic change and eventually come out on top? If you know of such a system that has pulled a "Rocky Balboa" in the console race, feel free to share it with us all.

Game On... 

how can something that been out for 6 months failflashattackfina

Maybe you should ask Sony?

"One week after PlayStation 3's worldwide launch, the party's pretty much quieted down. How's that console doing? In England, at least, the answer is questionable. There's an article up over at GamesIndustry.biz today that quotes a gloomy figure: sales of Sony's next-gen console have fallen by 82% in the second week following launch.

A downward slide in PS3 figures is predictable of course -- a state of launch hysteria is only maintainable for so long (and the early adopters already have their free HDTVs). The figure of 82% comes from UK-based market research firm Chart Track, who also confirmed a sales figure of 165,000 PS3s over the launch's first two days. "

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3158501

It's more like the BIGGEST FLOP IN EUROPE'S history.

82% Drop, ROTFLOL.  And was to be predicted, once all the folks who wanted a cheap Blu Ray player and rabbid Cows bought their console, demand of the PS3 dropped to nothing, exactly like it has done in both the North American and Japanese market.

You can argue about all the "If's" you want, the PS3 at $600 bones aint selling good at all.  You can wish it to be true all you want, the numbers don't lie.  Once the initial release in all major markets was bought, no one else is picking up the system.  The next couple of months are even going to be worse for the PS3.

AgentVX

When did the PS3 fail?foxhound_fox

Gosh, putting "PS3" and "Failed" together in the same sentence is like throwing out a salt lick in a field, the Cows come a running.:?AgentVX

how can something that been out for 6 months failflashattackfina

The Virtual Boy failed within the 1st 6 months.

No, the PS3 hasn't failed yet. Not sure why people keep saying this. If sales continue to fall for the next year, then it might be safe to say that. Right now, it's still way to early to tell. PS3 sales could surge if Sony drops their price $100. They need to do it before M$ does though.

The PS3 may have failed in terms of sales, but in reality it will surpass the 360 in 2008 with fewer games and no rumble.

::Insert Sarcasm Here::

JohnWinger

That's your opinion.

My opinion is, I don't see this happening unless Sony drops the price of the PS3 at least $150. The thing people keep forgetting is that M$ will definitely drop the price of the XBox 360 this year before the holidays. No one is sure if Sony will do the same. This holiday season will tell the tale if the PS3 can catch the XBox 360 or not by 2008.  

[QUOTE="MCGSMB"]

[QUOTE="flashattackfina"]how can something that been out for 6 months failNot-A-Stalker

Just look at it. It's only been out for 6 months and it's already lost a bunch of exclusives, it's losing Sony a bunch of money,
and nobody wants one.

False. A LOT of people want one, but simply can't afford it.

[QUOTE="tango90101"][QUOTE="darthogre"][QUOTE="FatalDomain"]

[QUOTE="flashattackfina"]how can something that been out for 6 months faildarthogre

Ask the Atari Jaguar, and Sega CD, 32X and Sony PSX about that...Systems made from reputable companies that immediately flopped. The PS3 is not immune to failure, it has became the epitome of failure this gen.

Game On... 

This is where I get confused.  You do realize PS3 is tracking the SAME as X360 was last year right?  Doesn't that mean both X360 and PS3 are failures?

i dont' think that's true...

 besides, it shouldn't be keep pace with the 360...it should be CRUSHING it...

so far they've penetrated 1% of their existing customerbase..

no matter how you spin it; that's failure...

so much so, it cost Kuturagi his job.  You don't think he would have been asked to leave if they sold millions do you?  of course not...;)

INstalled user base is nearly identical.  I'm not making opinion (like some people on this post), I'm stating fact. 

You can spin it anyway you want.....the fact remains if the PS3 is one big failure, X360 is in the exact same boat.  The only winner atm is the Wii.  That's using fanboy logic of course.

You guys keeping forgetting that the XBox 360 had huge shortages for the first 4-5 months after it was released. The system couldn't be found anywhere. This is the only reason the PS3 is currently at the same pace as the XBox 360. The PS3 didn't have any shortages after the 1st 4-6weeks of release. The PS3 was readily available in Jan, Feb, Mar & April, yet they are barely keeping pace with the XBox 360's launch. That pace it falling off every month though. The PS3 really should be at twice the pace of the Xbox 360 right now because it literally had no shortages. It didn't have any shortages in the U.K. or Japan either, yet it's just keeping pace with the XBox 360 which was no where to be found in the U.K and U.S. 4-5 months after launch. That's not a good sign.

umm I still can't find a Ps3 on any store walls, but untill I see that the Ps3 has tons of consoles on the walls and are not selling then I might just conseder it a failure. 

when I say walls I mean shelves or shelfs.  I dont know how to spell the word corectly.