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#101 GameboyTroy
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[QUOTE="GameboyTroy"][QUOTE="Ben-Buja"]

These two are not my screenshots, the previous ones I posted are. The inconsistencies come from different people with different settings taking screenshots. My screens are 2560x1440 with 8 MSAA, and 8x Sparse Grid Supersampling to get rid of most jaggies.

Here's are video I uploaded with the exact same settings: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmpRDnbkPYw

The option for 1440P res disappeared for some reason.

Ben-Buja

I haven't seen youtube videos go above 1080p.

Youtube supports up to 4K resolutions. It shows the quality as "Original" then.

Oh, now I remember. Its been a while since I've seen a youtube video do that. It was before youtube updated their site so much. Someone from a forum posted a video in 4K resolution.
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#102 campzor
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gt5 photomode puts this to shame.
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#103 Ben-Buja
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gt5 photomode puts this to shame.campzor

GT5 photomode shouldn't even brought into the equation. It takes the PS3 up to a minute to render a single frame at 2x magnification. What do you think this game could look like, rendering one frame for a minute at ultra high res?

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#104 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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gt5 photomode puts this to shame.campzor

The photomodes create bullshots and these are real time. It's not even comparable

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#105 Wasdie  Moderator
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gt5 photomode puts this to shame.campzor

Let me ask you a quesiton, do you actually play the GT5 photomode in real time? Like, do you race in the resolution and visual fidelity of the photomode?

No, you don't. It's irrelevant.

My PC could render Avatar like movies if I gave it enough time. It's not relevant for real time rendering and gaming.

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#106 deactivated-5c79c3cfce222
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You technically could play GT5 in its photo mode settings in real-time.

0.016 frames per second. Just put some motion blur between the frames and you wouldn't notice.

Yeah I just played it for the first time literally 20 mins ago and I SUCK at it. But the cars handle like they would in real life, there is no room for error and you will be punished for being a bad driver. F1 cars spin uncontrollably like they would in real life.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGUZJVY-sHo

Of course Richard Hammond doesn't even know how to drive a jetcar rightside up.

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#107 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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You technically could play GT5 in its photo mode settings in real-time.

0.016 frames per second. Just put some motion blur between the frames and you wouldn't notice.

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

Yeah I just played it for the first time literally 20 mins ago and I SUCK at it. But the cars handle like they would in real life, there is no room for error and you will be punished for being a bad driver. F1 cars spin uncontrollably like they would in real life.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGUZJVY-sHo

Of course Richard Hammond doesn't even know how to drive a jetcar rightside up.

When I was driving the F1 cars in the game all I could think of was the Top Gear guys and how they kept spinning out when they drove the F1 cars :P

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#108 RyviusARC
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This even beats GT5 bullshot photomode and it's ingame. Photomode in GT5 was no wear near how GT5 looked while in game. The car models were higher quality in photomode and so where a lot of other settings like reflections and textures.
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#109 redskins26rocs
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Game looks amazing but hopefully the customization is as good as forza
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#110 GamingGod999
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Does this game only include the Pagani Huayra? :P

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#111 kraken2109
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I seriously hope this is mod-able

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#112 Asim90
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Erm, is it just me or are those shots in the OP not impressive at all? They look really quite average, GT5 already looks better than that.

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#113 Asim90
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This even beats GT5 bullshot photomode and it's ingame. Photomode in GT5 was no wear near how GT5 looked while in game. The car models were higher quality in photomode and so where a lot of other settings like reflections and textures.  RyviusARC

Okay now that is pretty darn impressive! Should have posted this first.

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This even beats GT5 bullshot photomode and it's ingame. Photomode in GT5 was no wear near how GT5 looked while in game. The car models were higher quality in photomode and so where a lot of other settings like reflections and textures.  RyviusARC

console gamers don't care. They don't care if it's real time or not. As long as they can use the pics as ammo they will see it as a good reason.

Played some project cars last night with modified TOD settings where it goes from day to night in about 3 minutes and it is without doubt the most impress implementation of real time lighting I have ever seen in a game. The transitions were stunning. The lens flare sucks though :P

oh and DEM REAL TIME REFLECTIONS :o

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#115 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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Does this game only include the Pagani Huayra? :P

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Nah there are a good few cars and tracks already in it. there are F1 cars too and normal cars like you would see in Nascar. There is also some go Karts :P

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I do like how they include even some very old models. The attention to detail on some of the models is very well done. But a lot of them can be a **** to drive.
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#117 mitu123
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gt5 photomode puts this to shame.campzor
Why do people praises GT5 for it's graphics?

It doesn't even look better than Dirt 3.:lol:

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#118 ampiva
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If those are next gen graphics i want my money back, for real those don't look like anything special infact those pics don't look any better then GT5 photomode pics.

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The difference is that this is actual gameplay.
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#119 tjricardo089
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Looks like Forza. 720 will demolish those graphics next yearreach3

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#120 Ben-Buja
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I do like how they include even some very old models. The attention to detail on some of the models is very well done. But a lot of them can be a **** to drive.RyviusARC

What a strange race lol '49 Team Lotus vs. Kart vs Gumpert Apollo on a kart track

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#121 Jankarcop
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Erm, is it just me or are those shots in the OP not impressive at all? They look really quite average, GT5 already looks better than that.

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You're fanboy is showing.

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[QUOTE="RyviusARC"]I do like how they include even some very old models. The attention to detail on some of the models is very well done. But a lot of them can be a **** to drive.Ben-Buja

What a strange race lol '49 Team Lotus vs. Kart vs Gumpert Apollo on a kart track

That's what I though :P

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[QUOTE="campzor"]gt5 photomode puts this to shame.mitu123

Why do people praises GT5 for it's graphics?

It doesn't even look better than Dirt 3.:lol:

most consolers here probably never played a racing sim, or even an arcadey race game on PC

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#124 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="campzor"]gt5 photomode puts this to shame.wis3boi

Why do people praises GT5 for it's graphics?

It doesn't even look better than Dirt 3.:lol:

most consolers here probably never played a racing sim, or even an arcadey race game on PC

Probably haven't played anything on PC full stop :P

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#125 Asim90
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[QUOTE="Asim90"]

Erm, is it just me or are those shots in the OP not impressive at all? They look really quite average, GT5 already looks better than that.

Jankarcop

You're fanboy is showing.

They are average though, see my second post. The later images are far more impressive.

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#126 GameboyTroy
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I'm bringing this thread back.

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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=448198&page=63

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Those aren't in-game shots, rather in-engine shots. In replay mode there will always be cinematic filters added to the game or some other post-processing effects. Every racing game in existence does this. That said, it looks great. Forza still beats it in environments, though.
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Those aren't in-game shots, rather in-engine shots. In replay mode there will always be cinematic filters added to the game or some other post-processing effects. Every racing game in existence does this. That said, it looks great. Forza still beats it in environments, though.
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[QUOTE="Pro_wrestler"]Those aren't in-game shots, rather in-engine shots. In replay mode there will always be cinematic filters added to the game or some other post-processing effects. Every racing game in existence does this. That said, it looks great. Forza still beats it in environments, though.

What about the last pic I posted?
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[QUOTE="campzor"]gt5 photomode puts this to shame.Ben-Buja

GT5 photomode shouldn't even brought into the equation. It takes the PS3 up to a minute to render a single frame at 2x magnification. What do you think this game could look like, rendering one frame for a minute at ultra high res?

At what point as it ever taken my PS3 an entire minute to render a photo I have taken in Photo mode? Answer: Never. I don't know where you got this statistic of a minute, but it is completely false. I am a huge SMS fan. Shift 2 is my favorite PS3 racer, yes I prefer it to GT5, and I even bought TD: Ferrarri challenge because it was developed by SMS. I am very much looking forward to CARS. But as of now. GT5 is the console Racing Graphics King. Here is GT5 Direct Feed gameplay. Also
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#131 RyviusARC
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Lots of racing games on PC look better than any racing game on consoles. Heck even Need for Speed Hot Pursuit on PC looks better than any console racing game. Proof here. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0ep7v01dsE
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#132 Cherokee_Jack
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Some of those textures are ass. Hardly perfect.

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[QUOTE="Ben-Buja"]

[QUOTE="campzor"]gt5 photomode puts this to shame.Nuck81

GT5 photomode shouldn't even brought into the equation. It takes the PS3 up to a minute to render a single frame at 2x magnification. What do you think this game could look like, rendering one frame for a minute at ultra high res?

At what point as it ever taken my PS3 an entire minute to render a photo I have taken in Photo mode? Answer: Never. I don't know where you got this statistic of a minute, but it is completely false. I am a huge SMS fan. Shift 2 is my favorite PS3 racer, yes I prefer it to GT5, and I even bought TD: Ferrarri challenge because it was developed by SMS. I am very much looking forward to CARS. But as of now. GT5 is the console Racing Graphics King. Here is GT5 Direct Feed gameplay. Also

gt5 is horrendously inconsistent in every aspect of technical graphics champ, you'd have to be blind or have poor eyesight not to see it.Le Mans its very apparent aswell as in Grand valley

Photo mode sure is cool but in motion that game aint a looker.

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I am still not impressed with this game although I do like the developers other games.

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I think the main problem with trying to say "OMGS THIS IS NEXT GEN!!!!" is that this game; based on those screen shots looks like a cleaner, sharper version of forza and GT. I am not saying this is a bad looking game but how much better can you make carbon fibre, black paint, chrome rims before you just go "well I have seen that before". Looking at the screen shots they seem to have only black paint (not exciting to look at) and the scenery just seems empty. Racing games I think need to focus more on the environments now. I saw a screen shot of forza horizon I think, and the cliff was probably 64polys, you could see plainly that it was just flat and nothing to it.

I think to main the next staggeringly beautiful game you need something like Motorstorm, which while in places it was ugly (specially the ground texture) but when you are racing for a bit and the dust kicks up and the muddy ditches start to show I thought it was one of the best looking racing games I have seen.

To be honest I am supprised racing games do spend as much time and resources on the cars as they do because honestly they are starting to get only minor improvements.

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[QUOTE="GameboyTroy"][QUOTE="Pro_wrestler"]Those aren't in-game shots, rather in-engine shots. In replay mode there will always be cinematic filters added to the game or some other post-processing effects. Every racing game in existence does this. That said, it looks great. Forza still beats it in environments, though.

What about the last pic I posted?

That pic is a great example of something that bothers me about the game. "Faretti"? It's a simulator. Authenticity is important to me. If you can't get a license for a car, track, or even a logo, take it out rather than trying to fake it.
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I think the main problem with trying to say "OMGS THIS IS NEXT GEN!!!!" is that this game; based on those screen shots looks like a cleaner, sharper version of forza and GT. I am not saying this is a bad looking game but how much better can you make carbon fibre, black paint, chrome rims before you just go "well I have seen that before". Looking at the screen shots they seem to have only black paint (not exciting to look at) and the scenery just seems empty. Racing games I think need to focus more on the environments now. I saw a screen shot of forza horizon I think, and the cliff was probably 64polys, you could see plainly that it was just flat and nothing to it.

I think to main the next staggeringly beautiful game you need something like Motorstorm, which while in places it was ugly (specially the ground texture) but when you are racing for a bit and the dust kicks up and the muddy ditches start to show I thought it was one of the best looking racing games I have seen.

To be honest I am supprised racing games do spend as much time and resources on the cars as they do because honestly they are starting to get only minor improvements.

o0squishy0o
what do you expect from sim racing game? unrealistic effects/filters like the one in Grid or Dirt? Those effects are good if its for a sci-fi game not racing.
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[QUOTE="Ben-Buja"]

[QUOTE="campzor"]gt5 photomode puts this to shame.Nuck81

GT5 photomode shouldn't even brought into the equation. It takes the PS3 up to a minute to render a single frame at 2x magnification. What do you think this game could look like, rendering one frame for a minute at ultra high res?

At what point as it ever taken my PS3 an entire minute to render a photo I have taken in Photo mode? Answer: Never. I don't know where you got this statistic of a minute, but it is completely false. I am a huge SMS fan. Shift 2 is my favorite PS3 racer, yes I prefer it to GT5, and I even bought TD: Ferrarri challenge because it was developed by SMS. I am very much looking forward to CARS. But as of now. GT5 is the console Racing Graphics King. Here is GT5 Direct Feed gameplay. Also

I got the fact by trying myself. Pick 16:9 and 2x magnification in photomode, press shoot. The loading screen will be there for 30-60 seconds, thats how long it takes the PS3 to render a single frame at that quality.

And yeah GT5 is the console racing graphics king I didn't deny that, I'm just saying that Project C.A.R.S. on PC looks miles better already.

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#139 Ben-Buja
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[QUOTE="GameboyTroy"][QUOTE="Pro_wrestler"] What about the last pic I posted?lowe0
That pic is a great example of something that bothers me about the game. "Faretti"? It's a simulator. Authenticity is important to me. If you can't get a license for a car, track, or even a logo, take it out rather than trying to fake it.

A lot the brands are placeholders at this point until they secure the license. Thats what happened with the Classic Team Lotus F1 cars, they all had fake brands but then SMS got the license and updated the textures.

Those aren't in-game shots, rather in-engine shots. In replay mode there will always be cinematic filters added to the game or some other post-processing effects. Every racing game in existence does this. That said, it looks great. Forza still beats it in environments, though.Pro_wrestler

No, those are ingame shots, this game doesn't even have a photomode yet. You can just go into freecam mode and take screenshots.

Forza beating this game in environments? We shall see when it's actually done. None of the tracks are finished yet. A lot of trackside details are missing or placeholder.

Anyway here are some new screens :D

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#140 mdh1982
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I think it's also worth noting that this along with most other PC sims you can race with a much larger field of cars. Just think of those graphics with 35+ cars heading up to Eau Rouge!

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#141 vashkey
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I don't think I'll ever be able to appreciate the improvements made in racing sims graphics. Honestly, I thought Gran Turismo 4 looked pretty dang good and still do to this day.
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#142 GameboyTroy
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Here's more screens for Project CARS.






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#143 lhughey
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This is what I like realistic clean graphics without crazy filters and effects found in Grid and Dirt..raskullibur
I personally love filters in Dirt. It adds atmosphere and depth IMO.
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Not impressed.

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[QUOTE="Nuck81"][QUOTE="Ben-Buja"]

GT5 photomode shouldn't even brought into the equation. It takes the PS3 up to a minute to render a single frame at 2x magnification. What do you think this game could look like, rendering one frame for a minute at ultra high res?

Ben-Buja

At what point as it ever taken my PS3 an entire minute to render a photo I have taken in Photo mode? Answer: Never. I don't know where you got this statistic of a minute, but it is completely false. I am a huge SMS fan. Shift 2 is my favorite PS3 racer, yes I prefer it to GT5, and I even bought TD: Ferrarri challenge because it was developed by SMS. I am very much looking forward to CARS. But as of now. GT5 is the console Racing Graphics King. Here is GT5 Direct Feed gameplay. Also

I got the fact by trying myself. Pick 16:9 and 2x magnification in photomode, press shoot. The loading screen will be there for 30-60 seconds, thats how long it takes the PS3 to render a single frame at that quality.

And yeah GT5 is the console racing graphics king I didn't deny that, I'm just saying that Project C.A.R.S. on PC looks miles better already.

I will try it.
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#146 deactivated-5e9044657a310
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[QUOTE="Ben-Buja"]

[QUOTE="Nuck81"] At what point as it ever taken my PS3 an entire minute to render a photo I have taken in Photo mode? Answer: Never. I don't know where you got this statistic of a minute, but it is completely false. I am a huge SMS fan. Shift 2 is my favorite PS3 racer, yes I prefer it to GT5, and I even bought TD: Ferrarri challenge because it was developed by SMS. I am very much looking forward to CARS. But as of now. GT5 is the console Racing Graphics King. Here is GT5 Direct Feed gameplay. AlsoNuck81

I got the fact by trying myself. Pick 16:9 and 2x magnification in photomode, press shoot. The loading screen will be there for 30-60 seconds, thats how long it takes the PS3 to render a single frame at that quality.

And yeah GT5 is the console racing graphics king I didn't deny that, I'm just saying that Project C.A.R.S. on PC looks miles better already.

I will try it.

Tried it. It did take longer than I thought so I timed it with my phone. It took 8.7 from hitting X till it asked me if I wanted to save. I'll make a video if you want. Care to exaggerate something else?
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#147 Ben-Buja
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[QUOTE="Nuck81"][QUOTE="Ben-Buja"]

I got the fact by trying myself. Pick 16:9 and 2x magnification in photomode, press shoot. The loading screen will be there for 30-60 seconds, thats how long it takes the PS3 to render a single frame at that quality.

And yeah GT5 is the console racing graphics king I didn't deny that, I'm just saying that Project C.A.R.S. on PC looks miles better already.

Nuck81

I will try it.

Tried it. It did take longer than I thought so I timed it with my phone. It took 8.7 from hitting X till it asked me if I wanted to save. I'll make a video if you want. Care to exaggerate something else?

Are you sure you used 2x magnification? Do you have your PS3 set to 720P or 1080P? I'm not exaggerating anything. 60 seconds is exactly how long it takes my PS3 from pressing X til it asks me if i want to save it, that is in the photo travel mode. In an actual race it takes even longer. Either my PS3 is starting to crap out or you didn't use the same settings.

Either way the photomode pictures shouldn't be brought into the graphics debate.

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#148 Magik85
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Few from me ;)
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#149 GameboyTroy
Member since 2011 • 9863 Posts

Here's how the clouds look like in this game.

cloooooudsnbj9g.jpg

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=448198&page=64

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#150 wis3boi
Member since 2005 • 32507 Posts

Not impressed.

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because it isn't on your little ps3