NPD Analyst: 75% of gamers prefer a boxed product

In other words, the suit would look like this:

Game Corp. + Shareholders v. Renegade Corporate Officer

Do you not understand the concept of "personal liability"? The corporate officer is being sued personally. I.e., they're going after his own money in his bank account. It's not the corporation that is being sued. In fact, the corporation is the plaintiff here either because the corporation brought the lawsuit or because the shareholders forced the corporation to bring a lawsuit through a derivative action.lolfaqs

[QUOTE="lolfaqs"]And malice has nothing to do with it. The mere fact that he acted without authority means he violated his duties as an officer. Vandalvideo

[QUOTE="lolfaqs"]Do you not understand the concept of "personal liability"? The corporate officer is being sued personally. I.e., they're going after his own money in his bank account. It's not the corporation that is being sued. In fact, the corporation is the plaintiff here either because the corporation brought the lawsuit or because the shareholders forced the corporation to bring a lawsuit through a derivative action.Vandalvideo

So now you're changing the facts of my hypo? The whole point is that not a single one of those board members of PCGA is going to say anything to hurt their corporation, because if they do, the open themselves up to exactly the same kind of suit I mentioned:

Game Corp. + Shareholders v. Renegade Corporate Officer

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="lolfaqs"]Do you not understand the concept of "personal liability"? The corporate officer is being sued personally. I.e., they're going after his own money in his bank account. It's not the corporation that is being sued. In fact, the corporation is the plaintiff here either because the corporation brought the lawsuit or because the shareholders forced the corporation to bring a lawsuit through a derivative action.lolfaqs

So now you're changing the facts of my hypo? The whole point is that not a single one of those board members of PCGA is going to say anything to hurt their corporation, because if they do, the open themselves up to exactly the same kind of suit I mentioned:

Game Corp. + Shareholders v. Renegade Corporate Officer

And the basic argument by the plaintiffs will go something like this:

Board of Directors instructed the officer to issue Statement A. The officer disregarded those instructions and, without authority, issued Statement B. As a result of Statement B, the corporation was harmed. The corporation and the shareholders now seek damages (aka money) from the officer.

dude, just stop feeding him. he's a troll. he has no idea what he's talking about.Zero5000X

Oh I know. It's good review for me though. I got no more use for the guy though. :)

So now you're changing the facts of my hypo? The whole point is that not a single one of those board members of PCGA is going to say anything to hurt their corporation, because if they do, the open themselves up to exactly the same kind of suit I mentionedlolfaqs

Cool, and when McDonald's their food is healthy, feel free to believe them. When Microsoft claimed RROD and disc scratching didn't exist, believe them. When tobacco company executives testify under oath that they believe cigarettes aren't addictive, believe them. When asbestos manufacturers claim asbestos didn't cause injuries to anyone, believe them.lolfaqs

Let's make a bet. I will flip a coin. If it's heads, I pay you $100. If it's tails, you pay me $100. I will flip the coin here at my house and post what the result is. You can trust me. I'm the authority on the subject, because only I will see side the coin lands on.lolfaqs

[QUOTE="lolfaqs"]Cool, and when McDonald's their food is healthy, feel free to believe them. When Microsoft claimed RROD and disc scratching didn't exist, believe them. When tobacco company executives testify under oath that they believe cigarettes aren't addictive, believe them. When asbestos manufacturers claim asbestos didn't cause injuries to anyone, believe them.Vandalvideo

How do I know that you're an established authority on the process of flipping coins? Besides, your example, in no way AGAIN, provides evidence that the PCGA is engaging in untrustworthy actions.Vandalvideo

No, no, I'm an established authority on this coin when I flip it thistime. No one else will have seen it at that moment other than me. You can trust me.

[QUOTE="lolfaqs"]Let's make a bet. I will flip a coin. If it's heads, I pay you $100. If it's tails, you pay me $100. I will flip the coin here at my house and post what the result is. You can trust me. I'm the authority on the subject, because only I will see side the coin lands on.Vandalvideo

No, no, I'm an established authority on this coin when I flip it thistime. No one else will have seen it at that moment other than me. You can trust me.lolfaqs

[QUOTE="lolfaqs"]No, no, I'm an established authority on this coin when I flip it thistime. No one else will have seen it at that moment other than me. You can trust me.Vandalvideo

Do you have any evidence that I am not a reputable coin flipper? Are you claiming that I might lie to you? Why would I do that? Oh well, your loss. It landed heads by the way. you can trust me. Too bad you didn't accept though.

Do you have any evidence that I am not a reputable coin flipper? Are you claiming that I might lie to you? Why would I do that? Oh well, your loss. It landed heads by the way. you can trust me. Too bad you didn't accept though.lolfaqs

[QUOTE="lolfaqs"]Do you have any evidence that I am not a reputable coin flipper? Are you claiming that I might lie to you? Why would I do that? Oh well, your loss. It landed heads by the way. you can trust me. Too bad you didn't accept though.Vandalvideo

[QUOTE="Compression"] But it makes their statements far less trustworthy. You should take it with a grain of salt. Vandalvideo

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Compression"] But it makes their statements far less trustworthy. You should take it with a grain of salt. mattbbpl

did the PCGA state how they came up with those results? the methods used and such?Zero5000X

[QUOTE="mattbbpl"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"] Until you can prove that the company lied, then you take their word as fact.Vandalvideo

No, those are the extreme outliers. Just because they make the news doesn't necessitate that they are the norm. This method has worked for me for quite some time. I've become influential and wealthy employing this method. It has its risks, but the rewards are far greater, and it allows for objectivity.Vandalvideo

Ever written a History Paper before? The first thing you do after reading a primary source is to assess it for bias. Historians do it all the time, even without an obvious reason. Its because bias exists everywhere, even more so in a report published by companies with an interest to do well.

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"] And this is the major crutch of your argument. It is nothing more than conjecture, supposition, and conspiracy. It is casuistic at best. It is a gigantic appeal to ignorance.lolfaqs

That is where you are mistaken. This is not "my argument." This is me telling you what the Supreme Court, federal and state statutes, and legal precedent have said about how corporate officers must (i.e., it is not optional or discretionary) behave without exception.

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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]Sounds to me like vacuous survey done to justify their lack of tracking digital distribution.lolfaqs

This. BTW, with services like Impulse, GOG, Steam D2D, and others increasing in revenue yearly, I would say that the NPD is simply

trying to ignore the fact people are buying more games via download than ever before it will continue to increase. Personally, give me a

digital download any day of the week. When it comes to PC, I will only buy via Steam now. Call me what you like but it is simply to easy

to have all of my games attached to an account that I can simply start up from any computer, 24/7, 365, and redownload unlimited times.

You may say "Well what happens when Valve goes out of business?" They have already promised a patch to release your games. I simply don't

enjoy having boxes and discs lying around. So NPD, do some more research because downloads are the future.

Those services are only relevant if you're a PC gamer. Casuals rule gaming now, like it or not. That's why the top selling PC game is World of Warcraft. That's why the top console is the Wii. That's why the top selling games are games like Wii Fit, Wii Sports, Wii Play, etc.

i've played my fair share of wow, and i can tell you that the average wow player is not at all casual. i could go as far as to say that the average wow player knows more about gaming and where the gaming industry is today then the average console-only player.

I enjoy both.

D2D and STeam on PC are awesome.

[QUOTE="lolfaqs"][QUOTE="scoobiesnackarf"]

This. BTW, with services like Impulse, GOG, Steam D2D, and others increasing in revenue yearly, I would say that the NPD is simply

trying to ignore the fact people are buying more games via download than ever before it will continue to increase. Personally, give me a

digital download any day of the week. When it comes to PC, I will only buy via Steam now. Call me what you like but it is simply to easy

to have all of my games attached to an account that I can simply start up from any computer, 24/7, 365, and redownload unlimited times.

You may say "Well what happens when Valve goes out of business?" They have already promised a patch to release your games. I simply don't

enjoy having boxes and discs lying around. So NPD, do some more research because downloads are the future.

Noverech

Those services are only relevant if you're a PC gamer. Casuals rule gaming now, like it or not. That's why the top selling PC game is World of Warcraft. That's why the top console is the Wii. That's why the top selling games are games like Wii Fit, Wii Sports, Wii Play, etc.

i've played my fair share of wow, and i can tell you that the average wow player is not at all casual. i could go as far as to say that the average wow player knows more about gaming and where the gaming industry is today then the average console-only player.