NPD January 2013 - Holy f*cking sh*t Wii U at 57K lol - Vita around 35K

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="Neon_Noir"]Oh god they really are screwed. This is some of the best news ever. Sheep are such battered housewives. "It will be different this time, I swear."BPoole96

Hope we see a $300 premimum Wii U by Summer and a decent few games to choose from. Hope DMC stays on selling for a long time.

The Vita almost did as good as the Wii U :lol:

The way I see it is Ninty has no choice but to drop this thing like a hot potato ....throw a boatload of cash [ which they have ] into something they can release early next year and that cleanly trumps both Orbis and Durango...failing that, stick to handheld for this gen and go all in on next gen

Just for comparison sake, 360 did 270K last year. An 11K increase over last year is pretty good, though expected.

Thefatness16

Nintendo deserves this for going after the casuals.  Live by the casual, die by the casual.  

considering the amount of times xbox 360's red ring to death, it makes sense they sell the most due to needing replacement.

Isnt that just in usa though? ps3 owns outside of usa. 

Nintendo deserves this for going after the casuals.  Live by the casual, die by the casual.  

Fizzman

What about Gamecube, it sold 22m lifetime.

Poor sheep. :lol:Xaero_Gravity

considering the amount of times xbox 360's red ring, it makes sense they sell the most. Isnt that just in usa though?lunar1122

poor vita

[QUOTE="Vari3ty"]

[QUOTE="HaloPimp978"]

The Wii U will be fine not worried about the down numbers. Was hoping Ni No Kuni would be in the top 10 its the best game so far this year IMO.

fernandmondego_

We're talking 55k here... 

I'm delusional? Whatever things will get better for Wii U it takes time to build a gaming library just saying.

I love gaf.

 

MFDOOM1983

Omfg that was beautiful :lol:

[QUOTE="Xaero_Gravity"]Poor sheep. :lol:whiskeystrike

[QUOTE="whiskeystrike"][QUOTE="Xaero_Gravity"]Poor sheep. :lol:Xaero_Gravity

Nintendo deserves this for going after the casuals.  Live by the casual, die by the casual.  

Fizzman

[QUOTE="Fizzman"]

Nintendo deserves this for going after the casuals.  Live by the casual, die by the casual.  

BPoole96

That's fine but what do you say about Gamecube? In regards to the whole "hah, should have catered to hardcore, not casuals"

They tried that for two gens and it failed.

Nintendo's way out is to deliver high quality 1st party games and target the new generation of kids with titles lthat appeal both Nintendo fans and kids (Wonderful 101 = saturday morning cartoon, Lego GTA)

Bring out the Wii megaton sellers, there is bound to be some spillover from the Wii era. NSMB U and Nintendo Land sales have absolutely insane attach rates.

Initiate collaborations with 3rd parties, risky as they may be. Reach out to indie devs to fill out eShop.

They are doing all of the above! What bothers me is that the system should have been weaker and thus cheaper.

[QUOTE="BPoole96"][QUOTE="Fizzman"]

Nintendo deserves this for going after the casuals.  Live by the casual, die by the casual.  

SuperFlakeman

That's fine but what do you say about Gamecube? In regards to the whole "hah, should have catered to hardcore, not casuals"

They tried that for two gens and it failed.

Should have not been a decade late to the multiplayer party.

Original Xbox had something to differentiate it from the PS2 besides way better graphics.  XBOX LIVE.  

Gamecube had slightly better graphics with no way to watch DVD's.  

Back to the sales.

It sold 55k in a FIVE WEEK period.  That is hilariously awful.  It's worse than the Vita, and that system is DOA.  

[QUOTE="SuperFlakeman"]

[QUOTE="BPoole96"] Exactly. Casuals have no loyalty and the Wii fad has been over for years now. Even when Ninty launches Mario and Zelda games, how many copies did those games sell? 20m tops? That's all the sales the Wii U will get since there is literally no other reason of owning that console. Wii Sports was Nintendo's driving game last gen, and they don't have anything outside the usual suspects that can bring in numbers anywhere close to what the Wii sold.Fizzman

That's fine but what do you say about Gamecube? In regards to the whole "hah, should have catered to hardcore, not casuals"

They tried that for two gens and it failed.

Should have not been a decade late to the multiplayer party.

Original Xbox had something to differentiate it from the PS2 besides way better graphics.  XBOX LIVE.  

Gamecube had slightly better graphics with no way to watch DVD's.  

Some of the stuff here go against Nintendo's principles.

No way they'd pay royalties to a competitor for DVD / blu-ray playability or w/e you call it

Nintendo won't (refuse) to change as a company just to attract the "cool" crowd. Nintendo-like games simply don't sell to the PS3/360 crowd. 

Microsoft tried with Rare, all of Sony's recent mascot games like PSABR / Sly 4 are mega flops. What sells is Uncharted: generic TPS edition. Nintendo would go handheld only before giving in.

With those Software sales I can see why nobody wants to make or even port games to it. And good god is the Vita freaking pathetic, hopefully Sony says something about it the 20th.

Nintendo's way out is to deliver high quality 1st party games and target the new generation of kids with titles lthat appeal both Nintendo fans and kids (Wonderful 101 = saturday morning cartoon, Lego GTA)

Bring out the Wii megaton sellers, there is bound to be some spillover from the Wii era. NSMB U and Nintendo Land sales have absolutely insane attach rates.

Initiate collaborations with 3rd parties, risky as they may be. Reach out to indie devs to fill out eShop.

They are doing all of the above! What bothers me is that the system should have been weaker and thus cheaper.

SuperFlakeman

I'm honestly of the mind that sony is coming close to overtaking nintendo in the 1st party department.

and that's not good, especially when that's all Nintendo has in the first place.

I'm honestly of the mind that sony is coming close to overtaking nintendo in the 1st party department.

and that's not good, especially when that's all Nintendo has in the first place.

ReadingRainbow4

[QUOTE="ReadingRainbow4"]

I'm honestly of the mind that sony is coming close to overtaking nintendo in the 1st party department.

and that's not good, especially when that's all Nintendo has in the first place.

Shinobishyguy

I'm really not counting the handheld here, but the wiiu.

3ds isn't much better imo, we can only take so many versions of mario.

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]

[QUOTE="ReadingRainbow4"]

I'm honestly of the mind that sony is coming close to overtaking nintendo in the 1st party department.

and that's not good, especially when that's all Nintendo has in the first place.

ReadingRainbow4

I'm really not counting the handheld here, but the wiiu.

3ds isn't much better imo, we can only take so many versions of mario.

Plus you got stuff like Fire emblem, pokemon XY, Kid Icarus and Animal crossing

Dang the Vita only did mid 30s and that is with 5 weeks counted. Holy cow that is bad, so only around 6k to 7k a week.

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]

[QUOTE="ReadingRainbow4"]

I'm honestly of the mind that sony is coming close to overtaking nintendo in the 1st party department.

and that's not good, especially when that's all Nintendo has in the first place.

ReadingRainbow4

I'm really not counting the handheld here, but the wiiu.

3ds isn't much better imo, we can only take so many versions of mario.

Dang the Vita only did mid 30s and that is with 5 weeks counted. Holy cow that is bad, so only around 6k a week.

CanYouDiglt

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]

[QUOTE="ReadingRainbow4"]

I'm honestly of the mind that sony is coming close to overtaking nintendo in the 1st party department.

and that's not good, especially when that's all Nintendo has in the first place.

ReadingRainbow4

I'm really not counting the handheld here, but the wiiu.

3ds isn't much better imo, we can only take so many versions of mario.

:P

[QUOTE="BPoole96"][QUOTE="Fizzman"]

Nintendo deserves this for going after the casuals.  Live by the casual, die by the casual.  

SuperFlakeman

That's fine but what do you say about Gamecube? In regards to the whole "hah, should have catered to hardcore, not casuals"

They tried that for two gens and it failed.

I did a quick google search and I found that Dreamcast supposedly sold a million in about 2 months in the US. This was before it's first Black Friday and Christmas holiday. I believe the WiiU is now somewhere under a million after 3 months. You put 2 and 2 together and you get WiiU possibly selling worse than the Dreamcast and neither had/have EA support. It's starting to look a lot like Dreamcast everywhere you go... Nintendo seriously better turn this around, it isn't looking good. Good Luck Nintendo.

http://news.cnet.com/Dreamcast-sales-hit-1-million-in-North-America/2100-1040_3-233527.html

Rumor

DmC < 200K

Bomba

I think it is a little early for the doom and gloom for the Wii U. It does not look like it will be the monster success the Wii was but it is fairly new still with little amount of games. 55k is not terrible compared to other consoles in the same time frame. CanYouDiglt

Rumor

DmC < 200K

Bomba

Thefatness16

[QUOTE="SuperFlakeman"]

Nintendo's way out is to deliver high quality 1st party games and target the new generation of kids with titles lthat appeal both Nintendo fans and kids (Wonderful 101 = saturday morning cartoon, Lego GTA)

Bring out the Wii megaton sellers, there is bound to be some spillover from the Wii era. NSMB U and Nintendo Land sales have absolutely insane attach rates.

Initiate collaborations with 3rd parties, risky as they may be. Reach out to indie devs to fill out eShop.

They are doing all of the above! What bothers me is that the system should have been weaker and thus cheaper.

BPoole96

There is too much generalization and down-playing of Nintendo games in your post. 

You dismiss Galaxy and Skyward Sword as "more Mario / Zelda", Really? 90%+ metascores and more "new IP" in them than actual new IPs. Yada Yada

I think it is a little early for the doom and gloom for the Wii U. It does not look like it will be the monster success the Wii was but it is fairly new still with little amount of games. 55k is not terrible compared to other consoles in the same time frame. CanYouDiglt

They are historically bad.  Worse than the Vita and Dreamcast.  

[QUOTE="BPoole96"][QUOTE="SuperFlakeman"]

Nintendo's way out is to deliver high quality 1st party games and target the new generation of kids with titles lthat appeal both Nintendo fans and kids (Wonderful 101 = saturday morning cartoon, Lego GTA)

Bring out the Wii megaton sellers, there is bound to be some spillover from the Wii era. NSMB U and Nintendo Land sales have absolutely insane attach rates.

Initiate collaborations with 3rd parties, risky as they may be. Reach out to indie devs to fill out eShop.

They are doing all of the above! What bothers me is that the system should have been weaker and thus cheaper.

SuperFlakeman

There is too much generalization and down-playing of Nintendo games in your post. 

You dismiss Galaxy and Skyward Sword as "more Mario / Zelda", Really? 90%+ metascores and more "new IP" in them than actual new IPs. Yada Yada

[QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"]I think it is a little early for the doom and gloom for the Wii U. It does not look like it will be the monster success the Wii was but it is fairly new still with little amount of games. 55k is not terrible compared to other consoles in the same time frame. Fizzman

They are historically bad.  Worse than the Vita and Dreamcast.  

[QUOTE="SuperFlakeman"]

[QUOTE="BPoole96"] Kids aren't the same demographic as they used to be. You know what all the 10-11 year olds are playing? Online FPS games on XBL and PSN, Pokemon, and iPad/iPhone games. Kids don't want a console that is nothing but Mario and Zelda ad nauseum, and neither do I. It is physically impossible for Nintendo's first party to keep up with all the third party games that release on PC/PS4/720 that the Wii U gets shafted on. The best the Wii U can be is a nice supplementary system for a handful of Nintendo games for the entire gen, just like the Wii was last gen.rjdofu

There is too much generalization and down-playing of Nintendo games in your post. 

You dismiss Galaxy and Skyward Sword as "more Mario / Zelda", Really? 90%+ metascores and more "new IP" in them than actual new IPs. Yada Yada

My point is Zelda and Mario ad nauseum is not a bad thing ^_^

So long as they maintain quality and freshness between sequels.

[QUOTE="Slashkice"]

Ni no Kuni was at #11 on the software chart.

Xaero_Gravity

It was also the second best selling game in PSN North America ( outsold a lot of new games on PSN like DS3 and so on ).. it was the best selling game on the EU PSN and best selling game in EU Europe :)

[QUOTE="rjdofu"][QUOTE="SuperFlakeman"]

There is too much generalization and down-playing of Nintendo games in your post. 

You dismiss Galaxy and Skyward Sword as "more Mario / Zelda", Really? 90%+ metascores and more "new IP" in them than actual new IPs. Yada Yada

SuperFlakeman

My point is Zelda and Mario ad nauseum is not a bad thing ^_^

So long as they maintain quality and freshness between sequels.