NPD Nov: Halo 3:ODST is still in the top 20, Uncharted 2 no where to be seen!

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#101 delta3074
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^ Meh, to each his own, but Tomb Raider has never done it this well. Not to mention the gamerarely has a dull moment.

h575309
well i have nearly saved enough to get a ps3, was only getting it for KZ 2, the missus can use it for singstar, but i will give UC 2 a proper look as well as demon souls i think, i'm just a bit of a shooterfan i think
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#102 moose_knuckler
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This just proves that most "gamers" are pretty dumb. They prefer an expansion of an average game and not one of the best games ever created. Noobs and hype are making gaming the realm of rehashed shooters, I fear for the future of gaming.Odrec
That's more fail then TC's comment
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#103 h575309
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[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="h575309"]

^ Meh, to each his own, but Tomb Raider has never done it this well. Not to mention the gamerarely has a dull moment.

well i have nearly saved enough to get a ps3, was only getting it for KZ 2, the missus can use it for singstar, but i will give UC 2 a proper look as well as demon souls i think, i'm just a bit of a shooterfan i think

KZ2 is pretty good, not better than shooters on the 360 though. And stay far away from Resistance. Its not a bad game but ugh, its nothing special.
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#104 SpiritOfFire117
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This just proves that that sales =/= quality.

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Because the less sales a game gets, the better it is right? :roll:
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#105 SpiritOfFire117
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This just proves that most "gamers" are pretty dumb. They prefer an expansion of an average game and not one of the best games ever created. Noobs and hype are making gaming the realm of rehashed shooters, I fear for the future of gaming.Odrec
That's right. Most gamers are "dumb" and "noobz" for liking a game that you hate. :roll:
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#106 mtradr43
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[QUOTE="SpiritOfFire117"][QUOTE="Rikusaki"]

This just proves that that sales =/= quality.

Because the less sales a game gets, the better it is right? :roll:

exactly, good games can sell good or bad. also, i think we already all know that no one buys ps3 games, regardless of quality
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#107 DivineSword  Moderator
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Because the less sales a game gets, the better it is right? :roll:SpiritOfFire117
Nope, it just prove that games that sales well are merely more popular than the ones that didn't sell too well. So the fact or statement that a game sells well or vice versa atomatically means it is a great game is a little bit misleading to say the least. Oh and I fail to see the connection between sales and contention for game of the year award!

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#108 IppoTenma
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Thier lost. I'll be playing it on Christmas Day, regardless of how it sells.
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#109 SpiritOfFire117
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[QUOTE="SpiritOfFire117"] Because the less sales a game gets, the better it is right? :roll:-DarthMaul-

Nope, it just prove that games that sales well are merely more popular than the ones that didn't sell too well. So the fact or statement that a game sells well or vice versa atomatically means it is a great game is a little bit misleading to say the least. Oh and I fail to see the connection between sales and contention for game of the year award!

That wasn't the point I was trying to make. Just because a game sells well doesn't immediately mean it is "bad". Likewise, if a game doesn't sell well, that doesn't exactly mean the game is "good" either. And for the record, I already own both (or atleast plan to own UC2 very soon).
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#110 Evz0rz
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[QUOTE="chocolate1325"] Then I guess GTAIV should of won GOTY here in Gamespot according to your logic.

MGS4: 94% average GTAIV: 98% average.

Chepocles

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Since when have sales had to do with GOTY. I mean most games on the Wii like Wii Fit are boring. Uncharted 2 is a masterpiece with a 96% average.

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Then I guess GTAIV should of won GOTY here in Gamespot according to your logic.

MGS4: 94% average GTAIV: 98% average.

No...because at gamespot both games got a ten. They aren't going to care about an average review rating for a game because that has almost nothing to do with their score. I would also like to ask what Uncharted 2 not selling well has to do with its chances at GOTY? I'm not sure about you, but my game of the year will be the game that I favored over all the others in 2009. I will not be pulling up and NPD's to help with my decision. If it helps you sleep at night knowing that U2 isn't selling that great any more, good for you. I have always thought basing a games quality on how well it sells was the most idiotic thing someone can do
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#111 DivineSword  Moderator
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That wasn't the point I was trying to make. Just because a game sells well doesn't immediately mean it is "bad". Likewise, if a game doesn't sell well, that doesn't exactly mean the game is "good" either. And for the record, I already own both (or atleast plan to own UC2 very soon).SpiritOfFire117
Well the person you quoted before me made that same valid point that sales =/= quality and you seem to disagree with that person?

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#112 3rdbass
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[QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"][QUOTE="gamecubepad"]

...or perhaps that PS3 fans don't buy superb games.

All that hype for Uncharted 2 and KZ2 and they sell like this. What gives? Maybe PS3 fans are busy playing PC/360 multiplats on their high-end rigs?

Anyway, hopefully Uncharted 2 has legs. How tragic.

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Hopefully? The first Uncharted sold much less when it was released and sold over 2.5 Million copies in the long run. This is a given :I

Correct me if I'm wrong, but it took about 8 weeks just for Uncharted 2 to reach nearly 2 million in sales.

Also, I have to agree with gamecubepad on this one. It seems that about most of the 27 million PS3 owners have bought it just for the fabulous Blu-Ray player. Even most 1st/2nd/3rd party games sell a lot better on 360 than PS3.

Very true statement about the blu-ray player and also add in multi-media capabilities and that is why most of the casual gamers buy the PS3. The hardcore buy games on the PS3 but without any casual PS3 support unlike Microsoft which gets plenty of it games just don't sell as well on the playstation 3. I'm sure also there are more hardcore gamers on the 360 also though the System Wars doesn't really show it. I'm sure most of the 360 users that are younger than PS3 don't come on here but do play the games.

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#113 SpiritOfFire117
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[QUOTE="SpiritOfFire117"] That wasn't the point I was trying to make. Just because a game sells well doesn't immediately mean it is "bad". Likewise, if a game doesn't sell well, that doesn't exactly mean the game is "good" either. And for the record, I already own both (or atleast plan to own UC2 very soon).-DarthMaul-

Well the person you quoted before me made that same valid point that sales =/= quality and you seem to disagree with that person?

Yes I did and at the same time I did agree. The point he was making. however, was because ODST sold well meant thatthe gamewas immediately bad. Then again, a game can also be good and sell well too. I inferred that because UC2 didn't sell well, he thought that it was automatically a good game. Yet not everyone shared his opinion. I'm not comparing the 2 games, just testing the logic for judging them.

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#114 DivineSword  Moderator
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Yes I did and at the same time I did agree. The point he was making. however, was because ODST sold well meant thatthe gamewas immediately bad. Then again, a game can also be good and sell well too. I inferred that because UC2 didn't sell well, he thought that it was automatically a good game. Yet not everyone shared his opinion. I'm not comparing the 2 games, just testing the logic for judging them.

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I know you were not comparing any games, since no one brought up any games during this discussion. I completely agree with you logic and by no means saying any one's opinion is wrong, because simply they are nothing more than opinion and of course it is not my place to judge anyone opinion on here but to respect them. Maybe I don't know the user that well so I didn't see any other indication beside sales doesn't equate to the quality of the games with his post, nor did I see any other point he was trying to make with that post alone.

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#115 Shinobi120
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[QUOTE="garland51"]

[QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"] Hopefully? The first Uncharted sold much less when it was released and sold over 2.5 Million copies in the long run. This is a given :I3rdbass

Correct me if I'm wrong, but it took about 8 weeks just for Uncharted 2 to reach nearly 2 million in sales.

Also, I have to agree with gamecubepad on this one. It seems that about most of the 27 million PS3 owners have bought it just for the fabulous Blu-Ray player. Even most 1st/2nd/3rd party games sell a lot better on 360 than PS3.

Very true statement about the blu-ray player and also add in multi-media capabilities and that is why most of the casual gamers buy the PS3. The hardcore buy games on the PS3 but without any casual PS3 support unlike Microsoft which gets plenty of it games just don't sell as well on the playstation 3. I'm sure also there are more hardcore gamers on the 360 also though the System Wars doesn't really show it. I'm sure most of the 360 users that are younger than PS3 don't come on here but do play the games.

Thanks for agreeing with me. I mean, for the fact that there are now 27 million PS3 owners worldwide, you would think that many PS3 owners would go out & buy Uncharted 2 & make a lot of sales in far less time. Heck, Modern Warfare 2 managed to get at least 4,200,000 copies sold in far less time on the 360. PS3 owners wouldn't go out & buy Uncharted 2, yet, lots of them go out & buy MW 2 on the PS3 & managed to get about 1,900,000 copies sold it in far less time. Yet lots of them go out & buy other great games like MGS 4.

If UC2 was the greatest game for this year, then why won't many PS3 owners pick it up? Why not just back it up with greater sales in less time? Just goes to show that they don't care about such a great game like this.

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#116 3rdbass
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[QUOTE="3rdbass"]

[QUOTE="garland51"]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but it took about 8 weeks just for Uncharted 2 to reach nearly 2 million in sales.

Also, I have to agree with gamecubepad on this one. It seems that about most of the 27 million PS3 owners have bought it just for the fabulous Blu-Ray player. Even most 1st/2nd/3rd party games sell a lot better on 360 than PS3.

garland51

Very true statement about the blu-ray player and also add in multi-media capabilities and that is why most of the casual gamers buy the PS3. The hardcore buy games on the PS3 but without any casual PS3 support unlike Microsoft which gets plenty of it games just don't sell as well on the playstation 3. I'm sure also there are more hardcore gamers on the 360 also though the System Wars doesn't really show it. I'm sure most of the 360 users that are younger than PS3 don't come on here but do play the games.

Thanks for agreeing with me. I mean, for the fact that there are now 27 million PS3 owners worldwide, you would think that many PS3 owners would go out & buy Uncharted 2 & make a lot of sales in far less time. Heck, Modern Warfare 2 managed to get at least 4,200,000 copies sold in far less time on the 360. PS3 owners wouldn't go out & buy Uncharted 2, yet, lots of them go out & buy MW 2 on the PS3 & managed to get about 1,900,000 copies sold it in far less time. Yet lots of them go out & buy other great games like MGS 4.

If UC2 was the greatest game for this year, then why won't many PS3 owners pick it up? Why not just back it up with greater sales in less time? Just goes to show that they don't care about such a great game like this.

I have 2 brothers who have a PS3 just for the blu-ray and some light gaming. Unfortunately unless ithas a diehard fanbase like GTA, Rock Band, COD and MGS4 and GOW good games don't sell. Unfortunately the casual users get it for the blu-ray and multi-media capabilities and don't want to take too much of a risk on games that don't have a big franchise name. UC2 is being missed by a lot of PS3 owners for this reason unfortunately. My best game this gen by far.

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#117 sikanderahmed
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yeah like GOTY totally depends on sales :roll:

Edit: lol MW2 was the top selling game on pc..."buh buh hermits dont playz consolized crapzor :cry:"

Espada12

It's actually dragon age.. and secondly considering the PC version only did about 170k copies within the first month compared to 6 mil.. well... I guess it's true

dragon age was second on pc, MW2 is first. also the fact that MW2 sold so less on pc yet is still the top selling pc game shows pc game sales are weak

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#118 Espada12
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[QUOTE="Espada12"]

[QUOTE="sikanderahmed"]

yeah like GOTY totally depends on sales :roll:

Edit: lol MW2 was the top selling game on pc..."buh buh hermits dont playz consolized crapzor :cry:"

sikanderahmed

It's actually dragon age.. and secondly considering the PC version only did about 170k copies within the first month compared to 6 mil.. well... I guess it's true

dragon age was second on pc, MW2 is first. also the fact that MW2 sold so less on pc yet is still the top selling pc game shows pc game sales are weak

Dragon age is on the list twice which is why I say it's first ;) , pc retail sales are garbage in the US.

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#119 jg4xchamp
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This just proves that that sales =/= quality.

Rikusaki
How? when Halo is a quality series :|