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#51 Zero_epyon
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@Ant_17 said:
@Dire_Weasel said:
@lundy86_4 said:

Xbox One is gonna sweep it... It's gonna happen, or my name isn't tigersuperman!

Not bad, but you need to add a list of dozen "irrefutable reasons" why Xbox One already won, and then have a meltdown.

"I just talked with every trash collector in the states , and they can confirm , the rise of Xbone boxes in the trash has risen 60% , and the PS4 has gone down by 75%."

*Link here for gamespot or whatever store he shilled"

Sigh:TigerSuperman

Wow that would have been amazing.

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#52  Edited By dante1972
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PS4 beat XBOXone. No news there.

I just hope that Until Dawn did ok. I really enjoyed it and am almost finished my second play through.

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@Dire_Weasel said:
@lundy86_4 said:

Xbox One is gonna sweep it... It's gonna happen, or my name isn't tigersuperman!

Not bad, but you need to add a list of dozen "irrefutable reasons" why Xbox One already won, and then have a meltdown.

See... I was gonna put the effort in, but I had better shit to do.. I'd never make a true tigersuperman!

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#54 Chutebox
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Ps4 again. Going to be a low month for both though

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#55 Zero_epyon
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Any news?

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Overall:

Overall retail sales are down 2% year over year.

Hardware sales were up 2% year over year.

Retail software sales were down 10% year over year.

Software:

1.) Madden NFL 16 (PS4, Xbox One, 360, PS3)

2.) Minecraft (360, PS3, Xbox One, PS4)

3.) Gears of War: Ultimate Edition (Xbox One)

4.) Grand Theft Auto V (PS4, Xbox One, 360, PS3, PC)

5.) Lego: Jurassic World (360, 3DS, Wii U, PS3, Xbox One, PS4, Vita)

6.) Rare Replay (Xbox One)

7.) Until Dawn (PS4)

8.) Call of Duty: Black Ops Combo Pack (360, PS3)

9.) Batman: Arkham Knight (PS4, Xbox One)

10.) Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare (PS4, Xbox One, 360, PS3, PC)

Notes:

-The PS4 was #1 in software sales for the month.

-Splatoon has crossed 600K digital + physical sales.

-There have been 7 million Amiibos sold.

Hardware:

PS4: Top selling platform

XB1: Up 26% over August 2014 (estimated 202K)

Other Information:

Originally Posted by VB

According to today’s release from The NPD Group market research firm, Nintendo reported that it’s sold 7 million of its Amiibo toys-to-life figures. The Japanese publisher also reported a 30 percent increase in sales for its 3DS handheld line for the eight months of the year and that it’s sold 600,000 copies of the surprise hit shooter Splatoon in the U.S. alone.

Source: http://venturebeat.com/2015/09/10/ni...ince-november/

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#57 misterpmedia
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Literally had no clue it was NPD release day until I checked GAF. Was like wait, isn't this next week? Apparently not!

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#58 xxgunslingerxx
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it blows my mind the bone still lost with the 500 dollar tv bundle

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#59  Edited By Ant_17
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@misterpmedia said:

Overall:

Overall retail sales are down 2% year over year.

Hardware sales were up 2% year over year.

Retail software sales were down 10% year over year.

Software:

1.) Madden NFL 16 (PS4, Xbox One, 360, PS3)

2.) Minecraft (360, PS3, Xbox One, PS4)

3.) Gears of War: Ultimate Edition (Xbox One)

4.) Grand Theft Auto V (PS4, Xbox One, 360, PS3, PC)

5.) Lego: Jurassic World (360, 3DS, Wii U, PS3, Xbox One, PS4, Vita)

6.) Rare Replay (Xbox One)

7.) Until Dawn (PS4)

8.) Call of Duty: Black Ops Combo Pack (360, PS3)

9.) Batman: Arkham Knight (PS4, Xbox One)

10.) Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare (PS4, Xbox One, 360, PS3, PC)

Notes:

-The PS4 was #1 in software sales for the month.

-Splatoon has crossed 600K digital + physical sales.

-There have been 7 million Amiibos sold.

Hardware:

PS4: Top selling platform

XB1: Up 26% over August 2014 (estimated 202K)

Other Information:

Originally Posted by VB

According to today’s release from The NPD Group market research firm, Nintendo reported that it’s sold 7 million of its Amiibo toys-to-life figures. The Japanese publisher also reported a 30 percent increase in sales for its 3DS handheld line for the eight months of the year and that it’s sold 600,000 copies of the surprise hit shooter Splatoon in the U.S. alone.

Source: http://venturebeat.com/2015/09/10/ni...ince-november/

1 - What was the % rise last month for the Xbone?

2 - 7 million Amiibos!? My god almost all Wiiu users have one.

3 - Shocking all over the board - Gears lost to Madden and Minecraft , Rare lost to Lego , Dawn lost to Rare and Batman lost to all of them...oh and COD if anyone cares.

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Congrats to Sony for the win! Nice to see Gears up there for only a few days on the market.

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#61 Dire_Weasel
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Sort of a boring month, results-wise. Congrats, Playstation 4. Again.

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#62 Zero_epyon
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Until Dawn actually charted? Good for them...

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@misterpmedia said:

Overall:

Overall retail sales are down 2% year over year.

Hardware sales were up 2% year over year.

Retail software sales were down 10% year over year.

Software:

1.) Madden NFL 16 (PS4, Xbox One, 360, PS3)

2.) Minecraft (360, PS3, Xbox One, PS4)

3.) Gears of War: Ultimate Edition (Xbox One)

4.) Grand Theft Auto V (PS4, Xbox One, 360, PS3, PC)

5.) Lego: Jurassic World (360, 3DS, Wii U, PS3, Xbox One, PS4, Vita)

6.) Rare Replay (Xbox One)

7.) Until Dawn (PS4)

8.) Call of Duty: Black Ops Combo Pack (360, PS3)

9.) Batman: Arkham Knight (PS4, Xbox One)

10.) Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare (PS4, Xbox One, 360, PS3, PC)

Notes:

-The PS4 was #1 in software sales for the month.

-Splatoon has crossed 600K digital + physical sales.

-There have been 7 million Amiibos sold.

Hardware:

PS4: Top selling platform

XB1: Up 26% over August 2014 (estimated 202K)

Other Information:

Originally Posted by VB

According to today’s release from The NPD Group market research firm, Nintendo reported that it’s sold 7 million of its Amiibo toys-to-life figures. The Japanese publisher also reported a 30 percent increase in sales for its 3DS handheld line for the eight months of the year and that it’s sold 600,000 copies of the surprise hit shooter Splatoon in the U.S. alone.

Source: http://venturebeat.com/2015/09/10/ni...ince-november/

LOL FireSaleBone still lost despite the Madden 16/Best Buy deals and Gears, how embarrassing.

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#64 vvulturas
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I hear TigerSuperman is predicting that the Xbox One is going to win September.

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#65 StrongBlackVine
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Until Dawn charts with only 5 days on the market. Sleeper hit of the year.

PS4 has September locked down with the Destiny bundle and MGS V being extremely loaded towards PlayStation.

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#66 ni6htmare01
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I have to say that NPD is boring with out TigerSuperman lol!

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#67 playharderfool
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@ni6htmare01 said:

I have to say that NPD is boring with out TigerSuperman lol!

It really is, his banning has actually become a disservice to the board

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@playharderfool said:
@ni6htmare01 said:

I have to say that NPD is boring with out TigerSuperman lol!

It really is, his banning has actually become a disservice to the board

I'm sure he'll be back

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#69 GrenadeLauncher
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Xbone with that killer August.

Oh wait.

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#70 deactivated-5a30e101a977c
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Microsoft is going to kill holiday season

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@misterpmedia:

Who the hell is still buying Minecraft? I guess all the hand-me down 360s in the states... But why does it sell better on the bone? Makes little sense. Unless the bone is owned by more 10-14 year olds do to them associating xbox in US last gen with most popular..

And why the hell is nintendo spouting off about stupid Amiboo sales... you people are still buying those? Personally, I don't see the appeal. I grew out of action figures 30 years ago... but to each their own. Also shouldn't that be in a toy sales chart, not game software and hardware sales. Should sony and ms push masterchief merchandise and lbp plushies for software sales too? jeesh..

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@FastRobby said:

Microsoft is going to kill holiday season

And the PS4 will also sell well during da hollydayz.

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@GrenadeLauncher said:
@FastRobby said:

Microsoft is going to kill holiday season

And the PS4 will also sell well during da hollydayz.

Yes yes... Can you repeat that line please ?

You need to make double sure that everyone read that.

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#74  Edited By deactivated-5a30e101a977c
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@GrenadeLauncher said:
@FastRobby said:

Microsoft is going to kill holiday season

And the PS4 will also sell well during da hollydayz.

Sure, but less. Closing the gap in USA

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#75  Edited By misterpmedia
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@FastRobby said:
@GrenadeLauncher said:
@FastRobby said:

Microsoft is going to kill holiday season

And the PS4 will also sell well during da hollydayz.

Sure, but less. Closing the gap in USA

And widening it again through 2016

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#76 inggrish
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@FastRobby: will it close the gap enough to counter the rest of the year where the ps4 widened the gap further though?

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#77 deactivated-5a30e101a977c
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@_Matt_ said:

@FastRobby: will it close the gap enough to counter the rest of the year where the ps4 widened the gap further though?

Not this year, since PS4 is already 1mil ahead

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#78  Edited By Chutebox
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Some bitterness in this thread haha (and I'm not referring to the game selling better)

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#79  Edited By KBFloYd
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@Midnightshade29 said:

@misterpmedia:

Who the hell is still buying Minecraft? I guess all the hand-me down 360s in the states... But why does it sell better on the bone? Makes little sense. Unless the bone is owned by more 10-14 year olds do to them associating xbox in US last gen with most popular..

And why the hell is nintendo spouting off about stupid Amiboo sales... you people are still buying those? Personally, I don't see the appeal. I grew out of action figures 30 years ago... but to each their own. Also shouldn't that be in a toy sales chart, not game software and hardware sales. Should sony and ms push masterchief merchandise and lbp plushies for software sales too? jeesh..

amiibos act like dlc and unlock stuff in games.

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#80 inggrish
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@FastRobby: in na? Has anyone gone through the npds and tallied up the differences so far?

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@Ant_17 said:

1 - What was the % rise last month for the Xbone?

2 - 7 million Amiibos!? My god almost all Wiiu users have one.

3 - Shocking all over the board - Gears lost to Madden and Minecraft , Rare lost to Lego , Dawn lost to Rare and Batman lost to all of them...oh and COD if anyone cares.

actually the 7 million is just for united states....

worldwide who knows how many they sold.

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#82 intotheminx
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I'm surprised Gears UE made top 3. Outside of that, boring month.

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@FastRobby said:
@GrenadeLauncher said:
@FastRobby said:

Microsoft is going to kill holiday season

And the PS4 will also sell well during da hollydayz.

Sure, but less. Closing the gap in USA

Closing a gap by a little in less than two months is hardly killing it.

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I think MS has to be a little disappointed...they are trying everything and still can't get ahead. With that said, I think they will take the next 4 months.

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#85  Edited By Zero_epyon
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@chikenfriedrice said:

I think MS has to be a little disappointed...they are trying everything and still can't get ahead. With that said, I think they will take the next 4 months.

I don't think they can take september with the Destiny and MGS bundle that was release. The Oct-Dec is a toss up for sure. We don't know if Sony will drop the price for the season.

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@Zero_epyon said:
@chikenfriedrice said:

I think MS has to be a little disappointed...they are trying everything and still can't get ahead. With that said, I think they will take the next 4 months.

I don't think they can take september with the Destiny and MGS bundle that was release. The Oct-Dec is a toss up for sure. We don't know if Sony will drop the price for the season.

To be honest, this November will be 2 years old for both consoles and I honestly don't think PS4 needs a price drop just yet since it's still selling well. Maybe like at E3 2016, Sony could announce a price drop to surprise us but for now, $400 is still a good price if you ask me. October-December, MS does have Halo 5, RoTR, BC, and the huge update UI. But it's like you said Zero, it's a huge up toss giving the fact that PS4 doesn't have anything new to release this holiday other then Drake Collection.

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#87  Edited By Dire_Weasel
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Only 7k difference, wow. I thought it would be close.

FYI, for those playing at home, the gap between the PlayStation 4 and the Xbox One in North America is still widening. It's currently a little over 800k.

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#88 chikenfriedrice
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@Zero_epyon: The only reason I added September is because the XB1 was the #1 trending topic on Yahoo the other day lol....not very scientific but the last time I saw that happen it won the month :P

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@vvulturas said:

I hear TigerSuperman is predicting that the Xbox One is going to win September.

Ha.....kind of anticlimactic here without him though....

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#90 vvulturas
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@LJS9502_basic said:
@vvulturas said:

I hear TigerSuperman is predicting that the Xbox One is going to win September.

Ha.....kind of anticlimactic here without him though....

It's a real shame...

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#91 blackace
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@Dire_Weasel said:

Sort of a boring month, results-wise. Congrats, Playstation 4. Again.

Yes, not really a great month. Next 2 months should be better. No surprises on the NPD. Some good software sales.

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@Heil68 said:

PS4 will continue the momentum from winning E3 2015 and subsequent NPDs

SDC, greatest console ever made, 10/10 games, free Salt distribution platform.

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#93 StrifeDelivery
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@misterpmedia said:

Overall:

Overall retail sales are down 2% year over year.

Hardware sales were up 2% year over year.

Retail software sales were down 10% year over year.

Software:

1.) Madden NFL 16 (PS4, Xbox One, 360, PS3)

2.) Minecraft (360, PS3, Xbox One, PS4)

3.) Gears of War: Ultimate Edition (Xbox One)

4.) Grand Theft Auto V (PS4, Xbox One, 360, PS3, PC)

5.) Lego: Jurassic World (360, 3DS, Wii U, PS3, Xbox One, PS4, Vita)

6.) Rare Replay (Xbox One)

7.) Until Dawn (PS4)

8.) Call of Duty: Black Ops Combo Pack (360, PS3)

9.) Batman: Arkham Knight (PS4, Xbox One)

10.) Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare (PS4, Xbox One, 360, PS3, PC)

Notes:

-The PS4 was #1 in software sales for the month.

-Splatoon has crossed 600K digital + physical sales.

-There have been 7 million Amiibos sold.

Hardware:

PS4: Top selling platform

XB1: Up 26% over August 2014 (estimated 202K)

Other Information:

Originally Posted by VB

According to today’s release from The NPD Group market research firm, Nintendo reported that it’s sold 7 million of its Amiibo toys-to-life figures. The Japanese publisher also reported a 30 percent increase in sales for its 3DS handheld line for the eight months of the year and that it’s sold 600,000 copies of the surprise hit shooter Splatoon in the U.S. alone.

Source: http://venturebeat.com/2015/09/10/ni...ince-november/

I first started reading this thinking this was your prediction. I was surprised by your estimations and meticulous style. Only until I got halfway down did I realize this was the actual NPD.

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@Zero_epyon said:
@FastRobby said:
@GrenadeLauncher said:
@FastRobby said:

Microsoft is going to kill holiday season

And the PS4 will also sell well during da hollydayz.

Sure, but less. Closing the gap in USA

Closing a gap by a little in less than two months is hardly killing it.

Last year November, December combined they outsold the PS4 by 600k... So that's killing it. If they achieve the same this year, they will have outsold Sony in 2015

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#95  Edited By LJS9502_basic
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@FastRobby: You know another company that used to dominant in regions but not world wide? Sega. Doesn't seem that beneficial now does it?

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#96  Edited By GrenadeLauncher
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@FastRobby said:
@Zero_epyon said:
@FastRobby said:
@GrenadeLauncher said:
@FastRobby said:

Microsoft is going to kill holiday season

And the PS4 will also sell well during da hollydayz.

Sure, but less. Closing the gap in USA

Closing a gap by a little in less than two months is hardly killing it.

Last year November, December combined they outsold the PS4 by 600k... So that's killing it. If they achieve the same this year, they will have outsold Sony in 2015

Right now the PS4 is 800,000 units ahead of the Xbone.

Which number is larger?

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#97 Zero_epyon
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@chikenfriedrice said:

@Zero_epyon: The only reason I added September is because the XB1 was the #1 trending topic on Yahoo the other day lol....not very scientific but the last time I saw that happen it won the month :P

Don't go all Tiger on me now lol

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#98 Zero_epyon
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@FastRobby said:
@Zero_epyon said:
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Microsoft is going to kill holiday season

And the PS4 will also sell well during da hollydayz.

Sure, but less. Closing the gap in USA

Closing a gap by a little in less than two months is hardly killing it.

Last year November, December combined they outsold the PS4 by 600k... So that's killing it. If they achieve the same this year, they will have outsold Sony in 2015

Yeah but the gap was a little over a million. What's the point if they lose that 500k over the course of the year? And at what expense? They had to sell their product way cheaper than they intended while the PS4 sold well at full price. That's not killing it.

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@GrenadeLauncher said:
@FastRobby said:
@Zero_epyon said:
@FastRobby said:
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And the PS4 will also sell well during da hollydayz.

Sure, but less. Closing the gap in USA

Closing a gap by a little in less than two months is hardly killing it.

Last year November, December combined they outsold the PS4 by 600k... So that's killing it. If they achieve the same this year, they will have outsold Sony in 2015

Right now the PS4 is 800,000 units ahead of the Xbone.

Which number is larger?

PS4 is ahead in TOTAL. I'm cleary saying on a year basis. Sony isn't 800k ahead in 2015, they are 800k ahead counting since November 2013.

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#100 Zero_epyon
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@FastRobby said:
@GrenadeLauncher said:
@FastRobby said:
@Zero_epyon said:
@FastRobby said:
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Sure, but less. Closing the gap in USA

Closing a gap by a little in less than two months is hardly killing it.

Last year November, December combined they outsold the PS4 by 600k... So that's killing it. If they achieve the same this year, they will have outsold Sony in 2015

Right now the PS4 is 800,000 units ahead of the Xbone.

Which number is larger?

PS4 is ahead in TOTAL. I'm cleary saying on a year basis. Sony isn't 800k ahead in 2015, they are 800k ahead counting since November 2013.

That's a narrow way of looking at things. It's like ignoring every region except US and saying that the Xbox One is doing well against the PS4.