NPD US Sales - September 2011

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="Blaze-Agent"]

it does not matter. The sales are for US only. Ps3 did well. 360 did better.

Divine_Menace

Dark Souls? Where have you being again? Oh you just mad that the 360 is already dead and buried in that region huh? Its only video games

Hmm Gears kinect functionality. When you jump behind your couch, you take cover...then pop your head up and move your hands to shoot....ahahahha

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="Blaze-Agent"]

it does not matter. The sales are for US only. Ps3 did well. 360 did better.

Divine_Menace

Didnt Dark Souls just get a 9.5...

Although the 3DS number is an improvement over last month.

SakusEnvoy

[QUOTE="Blaze-Agent"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"] Japan basically cancels the difference between the PS3 and 360 in 3 weeks. kuraimen

it does not matter. The sales are for US only. Ps3 did well. 360 did better.

The difference in sales worldwide for the year is going to be minor, unless some major change occurs in pricing.

[QUOTE="Divine_Menace"][QUOTE="kuraimen"] I'm just saying because people are already claiming that it is because the 360 has more quality games and to spare lems of the shame of hyping worldwide sales until the official year reports come in :PBlaze-Agent

Dark Souls? Where have you being again? Oh you just mad that the 360 is already dead and buried in that region huh? Its only video games

[QUOTE="tonitorsi"]

And god. Look at Madden go.

sanim02

Yeah it did great as usual.:P But it came out in late-August, so it's kind of expected.:P No.7 for Resistance 3 huh? Ouch.:(

Never played any of 'em bruh.

I ordered Dark Souls and Mass Effect 2 from Gamefly to keep me bussy until Uncharted 3 and Skyrim arrives, so I aint got no sympathy for insomniac. You alone on dis, mayne :P . I can suggest givin 'em something-something of a donation if you're that affected:P

[QUOTE="Blaze-Agent"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"] Japan basically cancels the difference between the PS3 and 360 in 3 weeks. kuraimen

it does not matter. The sales are for US only. Ps3 did well. 360 did better.

Regardless, the 360 remains top-dog in America and seems rather unstoppable in that region. What will dethrone it? Wii U? a $199 PS3 price cut next year?

More likely, probably nothing, because MS could price cut anytime they wanted/needed. The fact that they did nothing in reaction to the PS3's price cut was a sign of confidence that they already own America, and it turns out they were right.

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="Blaze-Agent"]

it does not matter. The sales are for US only. Ps3 did well. 360 did better.

i5750at4Ghz

Not last time I checked :P

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="Blaze-Agent"]

it does not matter. The sales are for US only. Ps3 did well. 360 did better.

Divine_Menace

LOL, are you serious? you have some catching up to do :P

[QUOTE="Divine_Menace"][QUOTE="kuraimen"] I'm just saying because people are already claiming that it is because the 360 has more quality games and to spare lems of the shame of hyping worldwide sales until the official year reports come in :Pkuraimen

LOL, are you serious? you have some catching up to do :P

Wasn't there a game-spot article saying that Gears of War 3 sold 3 million in its first week? What am I missing here?Brean24

[QUOTE="kuraimen"]

[QUOTE="Divine_Menace"] Japan lol that dying market... When was the last time a good game came out of Japan being serious here?i5750at4Ghz

LOL, are you serious? you have some catching up to do :P

[QUOTE="Blaze-Agent"]

[QUOTE="Divine_Menace"] Japan lol that dying market... When was the last time a good game came out of Japan being serious here?Divine_Menace

Dark Souls? Where have you being again? Oh you just mad that the 360 is already dead and buried in that region huh? Its only video games

Resistance 3 is a fantastic game, glad it broke the top 10

Well done to gears 3 aswell.

[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"][QUOTE="kuraimen"]

LOL, are you serious? you have some catching up to do :P

kuraimen

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="Blaze-Agent"]

it does not matter. The sales are for US only. Ps3 did well. 360 did better.

SUD123456

The difference in sales worldwide for the year is going to be minor, unless some major change occurs in pricing.

dude its Gonna be much bigger than it was last year. 360 had the launch of Kinect to drive sales last november, they will not have a repeat performance at this year. Ps3 is gonna clean house in JPN and EU this christmas. and They will do better this year in the U.S due to the release of Uncharted 3 and a cheaper console.

obviously 360 is number 1, its a fact that xbox 360 offers the best gamesablafasaolin

[QUOTE="SakusEnvoy"]

Although the 3DS number is an improvement over last month.

shinrabanshou

Nintendo says they have sold 450,000 units following the August 12th price reduction. That means, in what accounts for nearly 2 weeks of August, pre-price cut, Nintendo sold only about ~45,000 units. The last 2 weeks of August, plus 2 days, they sold about ~190,000 3DS units. That's a rate around ~95K a week.

In September, they have averaged about ~52K a week. That seems like a big drop from the numbers they put up initially post-price cut.

(If anyone is curious: in this same time period the 3DS sold 291,320 units per Media Create.)

Japan doesn't equal the world either, the PS3 isn't dramatically outselling the 360 in Europe, in fact in some places the 360 has a advantage.Brean24

UK. Thats it.

Don't know why there's so much talk of non-US sales... :/

Anyway, for fun I just went and had a look at lolchartz made-up September numbers... 3DS - 394K. Lol.

ugh, 360 needs to stop selling well or we will never get the nextbox.

Don't know why there's so much talk of non-US sales... :/

Anyway, for fun I just went and had a look at lolchartz made-up September numbers... 3DS - 394K. Lol.

shinrabanshou

lol same here, i did comparisons and i laughed out loud. Those people are no good when it comes to anything. Pulling numbers straight from the toilet. :lol:

Not sure how accurate this is but here you go...

http://www.ripten.com/2009/02/02/uk-overtakes-japan-in-the-videogame-market/

Not sure how accurate this is but here you go...

http://www.ripten.com/2009/02/02/uk-overtakes-japan-in-the-videogame-market/

Divine_Menace

thats in terms of revenue. Not actual sales.

Edit: Nevermind. It does not matter.

[QUOTE="Divine_Menace"]

Not sure how accurate this is but here you go...

http://www.ripten.com/2009/02/02/uk-overtakes-japan-in-the-videogame-market/

Blaze-Agent

thats in terms of revenue. Not actual sales.

The UK market in 2009 was 3.3 billion GBP. The Japanese market in 2009 was 5.43 trillion yen.

I like how FIFA is number 4 in the US lol,in front of NHL lol.

I thought americans didn´t liked football. :P

[QUOTE="SUD123456"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"] I'm just saying because people are already claiming that it is because the 360 has more quality games and to spare lems of the shame of hyping worldwide sales until the official year reports come in :PBlaze-Agent

The difference in sales worldwide for the year is going to be minor, unless some major change occurs in pricing.

dude its Gonna be much bigger than it was last year. 360 had the launch of Kinect to drive sales last november, they will not have a repeat performance at this year. Ps3 is gonna clean house in JPN and EU this christmas. and They will do better this year in the U.S due to the release of Uncharted 3 and a cheaper console.

I don't see that happening.

Last year they exceed MS by2.3 MM units worldwide for the year. All of that gap occured in Jan - Sep.They were dead even in Oct - Dec at 6.3 MM units each.

This year they will be in a virtual draw heading into Q4.

For the gain to be much bigger than last year Sony would have to outsell MS bymuch more than 2.3 MMunits in Q4 alone. That is not going to happen.

Japan doesn't equal the world either, the PS3 isn't dramatically outselling the 360 in Europe, in fact in some places the 360 has a advantage.Brean24

[QUOTE="Blaze-Agent"]

[QUOTE="SUD123456"]

The difference in sales worldwide for the year is going to be minor, unless some major change occurs in pricing.

SUD123456

dude its Gonna be much bigger than it was last year. 360 had the launch of Kinect to drive sales last november, they will not have a repeat performance at this year. Ps3 is gonna clean house in JPN and EU this christmas. and They will do better this year in the U.S due to the release of Uncharted 3 and a cheaper console.

I don't see that happening.

Last year they exceed MS by2.3 MM units worldwide for the year. All of that gap occured in Jan - Sep.They were dead even in Oct - Dec at 6.3 MM units each.

This year they will be in a virtual draw heading into Q4.

For the gain to be much bigger than last year Sony would have to outsell MS bymuch more than 2.3 MMunits in Q4 alone. That is not going to happen.

MS showing the benefits of catering to everyone. They get it man.i5750at4Ghz

[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"]MS showing the benefits of catering to everyone. They get it man.OhSnapitz

[QUOTE="Brean24"]Japan doesn't equal the world either, the PS3 isn't dramatically outselling the 360 in Europe, in fact in some places the 360 has a advantage.kuraimen

Don't let facts get in your way.

The 360 outsold the PS3 in annual year 2008 on a worldwide basis.

The 360 has outsold the PS3 worldwide the first 6 months YTD in 2011.

In a few weeks we will get the company Q3 reports which will likely show a 9 month deadheat due to the PS3 price drop.

In Q4 2010 they were exactly dead even.

When Q3 2011 is released we will see that the two companies have been in a virtual tie in the last 12 months (Oct 2010 - Sep 2011). There might be a slight winner, but the number is going to be small either way.

[QUOTE="OhSnapitz"][QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"]MS showing the benefits of catering to everyone. They get it man.shinrabanshou

[QUOTE="OhSnapitz"][QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"]MS showing the benefits of catering to everyone. They get it man.shinrabanshou

Incredible numbers for 360, and Gears of War 3's sales are also impressive. Nice to see Resistance 3 in the top ten, but I don't see it staying there next month.

In a few weeks we will get the company Q3 reports which will likely show a 9 month deadheat due to the PS3 price drop.

In Q4 2010 they were exactly dead even.

When Q3 2011 is released we will see that the two companies have been in a virtual tie in the last 12 months (Oct 2010 - Sep 2011). There might be a slight winner, but the number is going to be small either way.

SUD123456

[QUOTE="Blaze-Agent"]

[QUOTE="SUD123456"]

The difference in sales worldwide for the year is going to be minor, unless some major change occurs in pricing.

SUD123456

dude its Gonna be much bigger than it was last year. 360 had the launch of Kinect to drive sales last november, they will not have a repeat performance at this year. Ps3 is gonna clean house in JPN and EU this christmas. and They will do better this year in the U.S due to the release of Uncharted 3 and a cheaper console.

I don't see that happening.

Last year they exceed MS by2.3 MM units worldwide for the year. All of that gap occured in Jan - Sep.They were dead even in Oct - Dec at 6.3 MM units each.

This year they will be in a virtual draw heading into Q4.

For the gain to be much bigger than last year Sony would have to outsell MS bymuch more than 2.3 MMunits in Q4 alone. That is not going to happen.

What i meant was (Oct -December this year) I Know they were tied last year.They were tied in Q4 last year.with a 500 million dollar campaign and the launch of the Kinect. They might not outsell them by 2.3 million in Q4, but i expect them to outsell M$ by atleast 300k-500k in Q3 (july-September)of this year. I expect them to outsell M$ by another 500k-750k in Q4 (Oct to December) Worldwide. These are my expectations anyways. (Microsoft has being down YOY since July this year in the U.S. (I expect the trend to continue into christmas.)M$ won't sell the 1.4 million they sold in November last year this year, and Sony will not sell the 580K they sold in november last year this year. They will sell more.

[QUOTE="SUD123456"]

In a few weeks we will get the company Q3 reports which will likely show a 9 month deadheat due to the PS3 price drop.

In Q4 2010 they were exactly dead even.

When Q3 2011 is released we will see that the two companies have been in a virtual tie in the last 12 months (Oct 2010 - Sep 2011). There might be a slight winner, but the number is going to be small either way.

shinrabanshou

Why not, that's the only fun we have?

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="Brean24"]Japan doesn't equal the world either, the PS3 isn't dramatically outselling the 360 in Europe, in fact in some places the 360 has a advantage.SUD123456

Don't let facts get in your way.

The 360 outsold the PS3 in annual year 2008 on a worldwide basis.

The 360 has outsold the PS3 worldwide the first 6 months YTD in 2011.

In a few weeks we will get the company Q3 reports which will likely show a 9 month deadheat due to the PS3 price drop.

In Q4 2010 they were exactly dead even.

When Q3 2011 is released we will see that the two companies have been in a virtual tie in the last 12 months (Oct 2010 - Sep 2011). There might be a slight winner, but the number is going to be small either way.

[QUOTE="shinrabanshou"]

[QUOTE="SUD123456"]

In a few weeks we will get the company Q3 reports which will likely show a 9 month deadheat due to the PS3 price drop.

In Q4 2010 they were exactly dead even.

When Q3 2011 is released we will see that the two companies have been in a virtual tie in the last 12 months (Oct 2010 - Sep 2011). There might be a slight winner, but the number is going to be small either way.

SUD123456

Why not, that's the only fun we have?

[QUOTE="SUD123456"]

[QUOTE="Blaze-Agent"]

dude its Gonna be much bigger than it was last year. 360 had the launch of Kinect to drive sales last november, they will not have a repeat performance at this year. Ps3 is gonna clean house in JPN and EU this christmas. and They will do better this year in the U.S due to the release of Uncharted 3 and a cheaper console.

Blaze-Agent

I don't see that happening.

Last year they exceed MS by2.3 MM units worldwide for the year. All of that gap occured in Jan - Sep.They were dead even in Oct - Dec at 6.3 MM units each.

This year they will be in a virtual draw heading into Q4.

For the gain to be much bigger than last year Sony would have to outsell MS bymuch more than 2.3 MMunits in Q4 alone. That is not going to happen.

What i meant was (Oct -December this year) I Know they were tied last year.They were tied in Q4 last year.with a 500 million dollar campaign and the launch of the Kinect. They might not outsell them by 2.3 million in Q4, but i expect them to outsell M$ by atleast 300k-500k in Q3 (july-September)of this year. I expect them to outsell M$ by another 500k-750k in Q4 (Oct to December) Worldwide. These are my expectations anyways. (Microsoft has being down YOY since July this year in the U.S. (I expect the trend to continue into christmas.)M$ won't sell the 1.4 million they sold in November last year this year, and Sony will not sell the 580K they sold in november last year this year. They will sell more.

I guess it is a language/semantics difference then.

MS is currently 500K ahead YTD.

If the upper end of your estimate is correct for Q3 then it will be a deadheat going into Q4 as I said.

If your estimate for Q4 is also correct then the total 2011 gain will be 500K-750K.

In my books, that kind of gain on a yearly basis is minor. With those sort of rates of sales this generation is going to end in a tie for last :)

And my way of thinking is that a few millions units either way on product sales of 75 million or so (when the generation really starts winding down) for each of them is meaningless. Although I am sure SW will battle to the end pretending even 10 units is meaningful :)

[QUOTE="Blaze-Agent"]

[QUOTE="SUD123456"]

I don't see that happening.

Last year they exceed MS by2.3 MM units worldwide for the year. All of that gap occured in Jan - Sep.They were dead even in Oct - Dec at 6.3 MM units each.

This year they will be in a virtual draw heading into Q4.

For the gain to be much bigger than last year Sony would have to outsell MS bymuch more than 2.3 MMunits in Q4 alone. That is not going to happen.

SUD123456

What i meant was (Oct -December this year) I Know they were tied last year.They were tied in Q4 last year.with a 500 million dollar campaign and the launch of the Kinect. They might not outsell them by 2.3 million in Q4, but i expect them to outsell M$ by atleast 300k-500k in Q3 (july-September)of this year. I expect them to outsell M$ by another 500k-750k in Q4 (Oct to December) Worldwide. These are my expectations anyways. (Microsoft has being down YOY since July this year in the U.S. (I expect the trend to continue into christmas.)M$ won't sell the 1.4 million they sold in November last year this year, and Sony will not sell the 580K they sold in november last year this year. They will sell more.

I guess it is a language/semantics difference then.

MS is currently 500K ahead YTD.

If the upper end of your estimate is correct for Q3 then it will be a deadheat going into Q4 as I said.

If your estimate for Q4 is also correct then the total 2011 gain will be 500K-750K.

In my books, that kind of gain on a yearly basis is minor. With those sort of rates of sales this generation is going to end in a tie for last :)

And my way of thinking is that a few millions units either way on product sales of 75 million or so (when the generation really starts winding down) for each of them is meaningless. Although I am sure SW will battle to the end pretending even 10 units is meaningful :)

yea you are absolutely right. Either way. The lead is minuscle. Only good for fanboy battles and bragging rights.

I never got how one console outselling another is considered "bragging rights" for Fanboys.

[QUOTE="SUD123456"]

[QUOTE="shinrabanshou"]I wouldn't get too ahead of myself in predicting the quarterly numbers.

shinrabanshou

Why not, that's the only fun we have?

We have tons of data from previous years.We have all sorts of current trend and YOY data etc. It is perfectly reasonable to make substantive predictions. Afterall, they are predictions.

Moreover, you missed the point of my last post. Fun. Keyword.