Nvidia: ''Battlefield 3 Shows PC Dramatically Better Than Consoles''

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#1 Kankaseni1
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Graphics card maker Nvidia has pointed to games such as Battlefield 3 as evidence that the PC platform is way ahead of current generation consoles.

"This happens every major game console cycle towards the second half of its product life, because PC technology advances on a regular basis instead of once every seven to ten years.

"And so you could imagine how PC technology is dramatically better than a game console today, and you're starting to see that now with a new generation of games that are coming out, such as Battlefield 3."

Money made from desktop consumer graphics rose beyond usual seasonal increases, Nvidia said, and this was due to "strong global demand from PC gamers, driven by highly anticipated blockbuster PC games just starting to hit the shelves".

Nvidia singled out EA's Battlefield 3, which is the fastest-selling EA game ever, Activision's Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3, likely the best-selling game ever, and science-fiction MMORPG Star Wars: The Old Republic, a PC-exclusive due out next month with impressive pre-order figures.

"There's some stuff in here that's truly next-gen," executive producer Patrick Bach said. "A lot of tech stuff, Frostbite 2. Rendering, the lighting, destruction, to me I'm mesmerised no one else has been trying to do it.

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It sucks only console gamers can't experience yet next gen. Well, I hope the 720/ps4 will live up to their hype and catch up with standards.

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#2 NoodleFighter
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Hey Nvidia didn't DICE admit to making consoles the lead platform halfway through development

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#3 Mystic-G
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Nobody will care just because Nvidia said it. Personally, I think Nvidia needs keep their mouth shut till they can get drivers that actually do the game justice.
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Everyone already knew this hehe, well atleast people who have played both

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Nobody will care just because Nvidia said it. Personally, I think Nvidia needs keep their mouth shut till they can get drivers that actually do the game justice. Mystic-G

But if someone like Sony or Microsoft did the console users would care :P

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That's pretty apparent.
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lol yeah no one cares which is why the pc only has 19% of the boxed and digital sales compared to 41% by the consoles. Nvidia seems really bitter maybe thats why they screwed Microsoft over with the original xbox and Sony with the ps3....

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[QUOTE="Mystic-G"]Nobody will care just because Nvidia said it. Personally, I think Nvidia needs keep their mouth shut till they can get drivers that actually do the game justice. NoodleFighter

But if someone like Sony or Microsoft did the console users would care :P

Of course... but niether of them will admit to something like that.
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#9 tomarlyn
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Well damnnn hold the front page, BF3 looks better on the big machine you say?
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#10 agpickle
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lol yeah no one cares which is why the pc only has 19% of the boxed and digital sales compared to 41% by the consoles. Nvidia seems really bitter maybe thats why they screwed Microsoft over with the original xbox and Sony with the ps3....

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The 41% divided by 3 equals about 13.6% for each console. 19>13.6.

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If that's dramatic then I don't think my definition of dramatic matches Nvidia's. Of course, this is probably true for most people, and Nvidia just hopes to sell their newest cards to people who don't see the "dramatic" difference currently.

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I don't think people argue this, but given that consoles are almost 7 years old, it is kind of sad that the difference isn't larger than it is. I saw some SkyrimPC and while it looks sharper, etc, it doesn't look leagues better. By this point, PC to Console should be like comparing a PS2 game to Uncharted 3. It clearly is not the case.

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I don't think people argue this, but given that consoles are almost 7 years old, it is kind of sad that the difference isn't larger than it is. I saw some SkyrimPC and while it looks sharper, etc, it doesn't look leagues better. By this point, PC to Console should be like comparing a PS2 game to Uncharted 3. It clearly is not the case.

Heirren
Yeah hermits talk about the huge differences in potential all the time and it's there, but in practice consoles lately are continuously holding there own.
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derp! thanks for the update there nvidia who'd a thunk this before you took the time to explain it to me derp derp!

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"hey guys! We just saying this so that you could buy our GPU instead of AMD's!"
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Nvidia trying to justify there overpriced cards again.
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[QUOTE="Heirren"]

I don't think people argue this, but given that consoles are almost 7 years old, it is kind of sad that the difference isn't larger than it is. I saw some SkyrimPC and while it looks sharper, etc, it doesn't look leagues better. By this point, PC to Console should be like comparing a PS2 game to Uncharted 3. It clearly is not the case.

tomarlyn

Yeah hermits talk about the huge differences in potential all the time and it's there, but in practice consoles lately are continuously holding there own.

I think that is why I stick to consoles these days. You buy a console, you tend to get wowed by the new tech, games slowly evolve, a "peak" of sorts is reached at some point, you begin to tire of looking at certain visual artifacts, and then finally a new system arrives. I will say that this gen didn't have as much of a wow factor, as early 360 titles looked pretty bland, and the ps3 was delayed.

Also, I often times see people repeatedly post these amazing resolution screenshots of pc games with the latest mods...However, I don't ever see actual video. People claim, *while laughing at console gamers* "I play BF3 in 2400x1600 with 16xAA @80fps. I'm just going to start calling BS on this.

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BF3 does put console gaming to shame.

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So PC's that have motherboards, video cards, RAM and CPU's from the last couple of years are ahead og 6 year old game consoles?

Who would have guessed?

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I don't think people argue this, but given that consoles are almost 7 years old, it is kind of sad that the difference isn't larger than it is. I saw some SkyrimPC and while it looks sharper, etc, it doesn't look leagues better. By this point, PC to Console should be like comparing a PS2 game to Uncharted 3. It clearly is not the case.

Heirren

console lead games will do that to us

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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

lol yeah no one cares which is why the pc only has 19% of the boxed and digital sales compared to 41% by the consoles. Nvidia seems really bitter maybe thats why they screwed Microsoft over with the original xbox and Sony with the ps3....

agpickle

The 41% divided by 3 equals about 13.6% for each console. 19>13.6.

Actually that number is divided by 5-7. Those charts don't divide handheld consoles and home consoles, they also take into account older consoles like PS2.

Xbox 360, Wii, PS3, 3DS, DS, PS2, and PSP. Soon to enter that number is Vita and Wii U.

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[QUOTE="tomarlyn"][QUOTE="Heirren"]

I don't think people argue this, but given that consoles are almost 7 years old, it is kind of sad that the difference isn't larger than it is. I saw some SkyrimPC and while it looks sharper, etc, it doesn't look leagues better. By this point, PC to Console should be like comparing a PS2 game to Uncharted 3. It clearly is not the case.

Heirren

Yeah hermits talk about the huge differences in potential all the time and it's there, but in practice consoles lately are continuously holding there own.

I think that is why I stick to consoles these days. You buy a console, you tend to get wowed by the new tech, games slowly evolve, a "peak" of sorts is reached at some point, you begin to tire of looking at certain visual artifacts, and then finally a new system arrives. I will say that this gen didn't have as much of a wow factor, as early 360 titles looked pretty bland, and the ps3 was delayed.

Also, I often times see people repeatedly post these amazing resolution screenshots of pc games with the latest mods...However, I don't ever see actual video. People claim, *while laughing at console gamers* "I play BF3 in 2400x1600 with 16xAA @80fps. I'm just going to start calling BS on this.

You said it man. Nothing has graphics better than consoles. It's all fakes and conspiracies. Nobody is getting better graphics than you, it's all lies.
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Hey Nvidia didn't DICE admit to making consoles the lead platform halfway through development

NoodleFighter
Well they had. They can't make a PC-centric game and expect to work on consoles. You can downgrade so much before you lose actual experience the game is trying to give you.
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"There's some stuff in here that's truly next-gen," executive producer Patrick Bach said. "A lot of tech stuff, Frostbite 2. Rendering, the lighting, destruction, to me I'm mesmerised no one else has been trying to do it." Kankaseni1

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[QUOTE="Heirren"]

[QUOTE="tomarlyn"] Yeah hermits talk about the huge differences in potential all the time and it's there, but in practice consoles lately are continuously holding there own.GeneralShowzer

I think that is why I stick to consoles these days. You buy a console, you tend to get wowed by the new tech, games slowly evolve, a "peak" of sorts is reached at some point, you begin to tire of looking at certain visual artifacts, and then finally a new system arrives. I will say that this gen didn't have as much of a wow factor, as early 360 titles looked pretty bland, and the ps3 was delayed.

Also, I often times see people repeatedly post these amazing resolution screenshots of pc games with the latest mods...However, I don't ever see actual video. People claim, *while laughing at console gamers* "I play BF3 in 2400x1600 with 16xAA @80fps. I'm just going to start calling BS on this.

You said it man. Nothing has graphics better than consoles. It's all fakes and conspiracies. Nobody is getting better graphics than you, it's all lies.

That CLEARLY wasn't my point.:roll:

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Well Nvidia's $500 graphics card times 2 is required to fully max out the game. Good marketing on their part
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Hey Nvidia didn't DICE admit to making consoles the lead platform halfway through development

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Doesn't change that BF3 on PC is a league above consoles graphically.
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lol yeah no one cares which is why the pc only has 19% of the boxed and digital sales compared to 41% by the consoles. Nvidia seems really bitter maybe thats why they screwed Microsoft over with the original xbox and Sony with the ps3....

WilliamRLBaker

What s the point of having more sales when the playercount per map is heavily gimped to 1/3 of that of the PC version? :D

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[QUOTE="NoodleFighter"]

Hey Nvidia didn't DICE admit to making consoles the lead platform halfway through development

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Doesn't change that BF3 on PC is a league above consoles graphically.

Yeah but I've been seeing PC users stomp all over BF3 ever since DICe said that you'll even say "CRYSIS looks better derp!!!" BF3 looks like plastic blablablabla

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Nvidia wants to sell overpriced video cards. What else would they say?
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[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"][QUOTE="Heirren"]

I think that is why I stick to consoles these days. You buy a console, you tend to get wowed by the new tech, games slowly evolve, a "peak" of sorts is reached at some point, you begin to tire of looking at certain visual artifacts, and then finally a new system arrives. I will say that this gen didn't have as much of a wow factor, as early 360 titles looked pretty bland, and the ps3 was delayed.

Also, I often times see people repeatedly post these amazing resolution screenshots of pc games with the latest mods...However, I don't ever see actual video. People claim, *while laughing at console gamers* "I play BF3 in 2400x1600 with 16xAA @80fps. I'm just going to start calling BS on this.

Heirren

You said it man. Nothing has graphics better than consoles. It's all fakes and conspiracies. Nobody is getting better graphics than you, it's all lies.

That CLEARLY wasn't my point.:roll:

What was your point exactly? People on SW lie about their system specs? What? You think PC BF3 is not years ahead of the console version or something?
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Hey Nvidia didn't DICE admit to making consoles the lead platform halfway through development

NoodleFighter

so im guessing you think ports on pc are inferior to such game's that are made on cosoles as the lead platform? news flash for you, almost all games that were ported to pc are superior lol regardless of what platform that game made its debut on.

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Lol ofc they push the one and only PC demanding game so they can sell new graphic cards... all other games you can play with ancient hardware, almost :P

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Well Nvidia's $500 graphics card times 2 is required to fully max out the game. Good marketing on their partdeadruler08
I remember that.:lol:

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Lol ofc they push the one and only PC demanding game so they can sell new graphic cards... all other games you can play with ancient hardware, almost :P

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This post makes no sense at all. BF3 is extremely well optimized, it performs categorically better than graphically competing games. And there are many games for PC that are demanding/showing off the power of PC that released recently or are upcoming.

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[QUOTE="NoodleFighter"]

Hey Nvidia didn't DICE admit to making consoles the lead platform halfway through development

Rage010101

so im guessing you think ports on pc are inferior to such game's that are made on cosoles as the lead platform? news flash for you, almost all games that were ported to pc are superior lol regardless of what platform that game made its debut on.

Uhm no I don't

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I don't think people argue this, but given that consoles are almost 7 years old, it is kind of sad that the difference isn't larger than it is. I saw some SkyrimPC and while it looks sharper, etc, it doesn't look leagues better. By this point, PC to Console should be like comparing a PS2 game to Uncharted 3. It clearly is not the case.

Heirren

Actually it look leagues better, if you consider that consoles play Skyrim with 1024x600 and 30fps, and i play Skyrim with 1920x1200, 60fps, that is 4 times bigger resolution and 2 times more fps, this mean that it is already 8 (4x2) times better, and that don't even include the larger view distance, better texture, shadows, water, etc

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[QUOTE="Heirren"]

I don't think people argue this, but given that consoles are almost 7 years old, it is kind of sad that the difference isn't larger than it is. I saw some SkyrimPC and while it looks sharper, etc, it doesn't look leagues better. By this point, PC to Console should be like comparing a PS2 game to Uncharted 3. It clearly is not the case.

MK-Professor

Actually it look leagues better, if you consider that consoles play Skyrim with 1024x600 and 30fps, and i play Skyrim with 1920x1200, 60fps, that is 4 times bigger resolution and 2 times more fps, this mean that it is already 8 (4x2) times better, and that don't even include the larger view distance, better texture, shadows, water, etc

Same engine though. The difference should be like comparing these two games, at this point in time.

killswitch

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Uncharted 2

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Hey Nvidia didn't DICE admit to making consoles the lead platform halfway through development

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And that reason was to get the consoles ready for release. More so EAs fault than Dice ignoring PC.
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[QUOTE="MK-Professor"]

[QUOTE="Heirren"]

I don't think people argue this, but given that consoles are almost 7 years old, it is kind of sad that the difference isn't larger than it is. I saw some SkyrimPC and while it looks sharper, etc, it doesn't look leagues better. By this point, PC to Console should be like comparing a PS2 game to Uncharted 3. It clearly is not the case.

Heirren

Actually it look leagues better, if you consider that consoles play Skyrim with 1024x600 and 30fps, and i play Skyrim with 1920x1200, 60fps, that is 4 times bigger resolution and 2 times more fps, this mean that it is already 8 (4x2) times better, and that don't even include the larger view distance, better texture, shadows, water, etc

Same engine though. The difference should be like comparing these two games, at this point in time.

killswitch

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Uncharted 2

2nd pic is uncharted 1

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[QUOTE="Heirren"]

[QUOTE="MK-Professor"]

Actually it look leagues better, if you consider that consoles play Skyrim with 1024x600 and 30fps, and i play Skyrim with 1920x1200, 60fps, that is 4 times bigger resolution and 2 times more fps, this mean that it is already 8 (4x2) times better, and that don't even include the larger view distance, better texture, shadows, water, etc

ferret-gamer

Same engine though. The difference should be like comparing these two games, at this point in time.

killswitch

to

Uncharted 2

2nd pic is uncharted 1

No, 1st pic is Uncharted 1, 2nd pic is Uncharted 2, the location and his clothes gave it away.

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[QUOTE="Heirren"]

[QUOTE="MK-Professor"]

Actually it look leagues better, if you consider that consoles play Skyrim with 1024x600 and 30fps, and i play Skyrim with 1920x1200, 60fps, that is 4 times bigger resolution and 2 times more fps, this mean that it is already 8 (4x2) times better, and that don't even include the larger view distance, better texture, shadows, water, etc

ferret-gamer

Same engine though. The difference should be like comparing these two games, at this point in time.

killswitch

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Uncharted 2

2nd pic is uncharted 1

Even better. My point is that the difference between those two games is STRIKING.

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#44 mitu123
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[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]

[QUOTE="Heirren"]

Same engine though. The difference should be like comparing these two games, at this point in time.

killswitch

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Uncharted 2

Heirren

2nd pic is uncharted 1

Even better.

It's not UC1, lol.

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#45 26whitewolf
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really NVIDIA? that's probably because Xbox 360 and the PS3 uses 2005/2006 hardware, isn't it? btw I played BF3 on the ps3 and it looks awesome.
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#46 Jamex1987
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PC game developers are not interested in optmizing especially since Nvidi pays them to make it so. Furthermore, console games are made to scale really well while PC games are not. Playing a PC game on a lower resolution than your monitor looks looks like crap while 360 games at their lower resolutions look great.
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#47 nameless12345
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Yea, too bad I don't really care about the game. How about PC games that are actually something new and not your typical RTS or FPS for a change? You know, the stuff that pushes gaming further. Stuff like Heavy Rain, Demon/Dark Souls, SMG 1 & 2, ect. But oh wait, I should only care about graphics.

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#48 deactivated-5cf4b2c19c4ab
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[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]

[QUOTE="Heirren"]

Same engine though. The difference should be like comparing these two games, at this point in time.

killswitch

to

Uncharted 2

mitu123

2nd pic is uncharted 1

No, 1st pic is Uncharted 1, 2nd pic is Uncharted 2, the location and his clothes gave it away.

No, the first pic is Killswitch.
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#49 tomarlyn
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[QUOTE="Heirren"]

[QUOTE="tomarlyn"] Yeah hermits talk about the huge differences in potential all the time and it's there, but in practice consoles lately are continuously holding there own.GeneralShowzer

I think that is why I stick to consoles these days. You buy a console, you tend to get wowed by the new tech, games slowly evolve, a "peak" of sorts is reached at some point, you begin to tire of looking at certain visual artifacts, and then finally a new system arrives. I will say that this gen didn't have as much of a wow factor, as early 360 titles looked pretty bland, and the ps3 was delayed.

Also, I often times see people repeatedly post these amazing resolution screenshots of pc games with the latest mods...However, I don't ever see actual video. People claim, *while laughing at console gamers* "I play BF3 in 2400x1600 with 16xAA @80fps. I'm just going to start calling BS on this.

You said it man. Nothing has graphics better than consoles. It's all fakes and conspiracies. Nobody is getting better graphics than you, it's all lies.

Err, I don't think thats what he was getting at. Your reaction is to be expected though from someone like you.
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#50 HaloinventedFPS
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I don't think people argue this, but given that consoles are almost 7 years old, it is kind of sad that the difference isn't larger than it is. I saw some SkyrimPC and while it looks sharper, etc, it doesn't look leagues better. By this point, PC to Console should be like comparing a PS2 game to Uncharted 3. It clearly is not the case.

Heirren

that is the case actually