Nvidia: ''Battlefield 3 Shows PC Dramatically Better Than Consoles''

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]2nd pic is uncharted 1

ferret-gamer

[QUOTE="Heirren"]

I don't think people argue this, but given that consoles are almost 7 years old, it is kind of sad that the difference isn't larger than it is. I saw some SkyrimPC and while it looks sharper, etc, it doesn't look leagues better. By this point, PC to Console should be like comparing a PS2 game to Uncharted 3. It clearly is not the case.

HaloinventedFPS

that is the case actually

In other news, bears **** in the woods.

Yea, too bad I don't really care about the game. How about PC games that are actually something new and not your typical RTS or FPS for a change? You know, the stuff that pushes gaming further. Stuff like Heavy Rain, Demon/Dark Souls, SMG 1 & 2, ect. But oh wait, I should only care about graphics.

nameless12345

LOL. Amnesia, Atom Zombie Smasher, Audiosurf, Dungeons of Dremor, EVE, Frozen Synapse, Garrys Mod, Gemini Rue, Hearts of Iorn, Europa Universalis, Mount and Blade, Minecraft, Civilization, Terraria, Trackmainia, X3, the list goes on.

And those are just the ones I own...

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"][QUOTE="Heirren"]

I think that is why I stick to consoles these days. You buy a console, you tend to get wowed by the new tech, games slowly evolve, a "peak" of sorts is reached at some point, you begin to tire of looking at certain visual artifacts, and then finally a new system arrives. I will say that this gen didn't have as much of a wow factor, as early 360 titles looked pretty bland, and the ps3 was delayed.

Also, I often times see people repeatedly post these amazing resolution screenshots of pc games with the latest mods...However, I don't ever see actual video. People claim, *while laughing at console gamers* "I play BF3 in 2400x1600 with 16xAA @80fps. I'm just going to start calling BS on this.

tomarlyn

[QUOTE="HaloinventedFPS"]

[QUOTE="Heirren"]

I don't think people argue this, but given that consoles are almost 7 years old, it is kind of sad that the difference isn't larger than it is. I saw some SkyrimPC and while it looks sharper, etc, it doesn't look leagues better. By this point, PC to Console should be like comparing a PS2 game to Uncharted 3. It clearly is not the case.

mitu123

that is the case actually

that isnt modded Crysis

its just a picture taken in the sandbox editor

[QUOTE="MK-Professor"]

[QUOTE="Heirren"]

I don't think people argue this, but given that consoles are almost 7 years old, it is kind of sad that the difference isn't larger than it is. I saw some SkyrimPC and while it looks sharper, etc, it doesn't look leagues better. By this point, PC to Console should be like comparing a PS2 game to Uncharted 3. It clearly is not the case.

Heirren

Actually it look leagues better, if you consider that consoles play Skyrim with 1024x600 and 30fps, and i play Skyrim with 1920x1200, 60fps, that is 4 times bigger resolution and 2 times more fps, this mean that it is already 8 (4x2) times better, and that don't even include the larger view distance, better texture, shadows, water, etc

Same engine though. The difference should be like comparing these two games, at this point in time.

killswitch

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Uncharted 2

You need to understand that form 1024x600, 30fps to 1920x1200, 60fps you need 8 times more powerfull hardware, and that don't include the other things like AA, higher settings ete. Also a high-end gaming pc is about 10 time more powerfull than consoles.(the PS3 is way more than 10 times more powerfull than ps2)

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="HaloinventedFPS"]

that is the case actually

HaloinventedFPS

that isnt modded Crysis

its just a picture taken in the sandbox editor

This topic has been done a million times already that I'm fallen sleep due to major BOREDOM.

[QUOTE="HaloinventedFPS"]

[QUOTE="Heirren"]

I don't think people argue this, but given that consoles are almost 7 years old, it is kind of sad that the difference isn't larger than it is. I saw some SkyrimPC and while it looks sharper, etc, it doesn't look leagues better. By this point, PC to Console should be like comparing a PS2 game to Uncharted 3. It clearly is not the case.

mitu123

that is the case actually

Even non-modded Crysis is a generation ahead.

Everyone knows that the PC has better graphics duh lol. Its funny though, PC gamers are always upset that the consoles are downgrading thier games.....well maybe if more people bought the PC versions of games that would not happen, most games sell better on consoles so it makes sense for the consoles to be the lead platform. PC gaming is just too expensive and those of you claiming your 500.00 rigs will get the best graphics are liars and you know it.You just like starting wars with consoles owners.

It would seem that Hermits aparently just can't be happy playing their games, they have to spend most of their life on here complaining about why game companies are abandoning the PC.......and you wonder why people stereo type PC gamers HMMM gee I wonder, do you ever do anything but spend your time on the computer complaining on game forums? Why do you have to turn EVERY THREAD into a PC vs Console thread?

Its sad, PC versions of games are miles ahead of the consoles, and you guys just can't be happy with that. Games aren't being dumbed down because of consoles, its because of devs, because as a general rule, casual gamers are the target audience now, look at CoD look how its taken off, a game that (now)requires little skill. looks like crap, resuses the same engine every year, yet its the top selling franchise of all time. Blame developers, not us console users, they just don't want to cater to the PC crowd anymore when the games sell way better on the consoles. And a s a console owner I have to except that while it sucks, parent will buy their kids a console for gaming before a PC "sigh"

I'm sorry but really you need to get your priorities straight, I'm sick of coming here seeing the PC users get all butt hurt in every thread thats up. I'm going back to playing Skyrim on my inferior xbox 360, because unlike most PC users, internet forums are not my life, and I enjoy my platform to the fullest. SO have fun not getting laid, playing WoW, living in your parent's basement, I'm not using gamespot anymore, this site is full of crybabies. Peace out F*GS!

famunda666

typical consolite right here people

Nvidia seems really bitter maybe thats why they screwed Microsoft over with the original xbox and Sony with the ps3....

WilliamRLBaker

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="HaloinventedFPS"]

that is the case actually

Socijalisticka

Even non-modded Crysis is a generation ahead.

Everyone knows that the PC has better graphics duh lol. Its funny though, PC gamers are always upset that the consoles are downgrading thier games.....well maybe if more people bought the PC versions of games that would not happen, most games sell better on consoles so it makes sense for the consoles to be the lead platform. PC gaming is just too expensive and those of you claiming your 500.00 rigs will get the best graphics are liars and you know it. You just like starting wars with consoles owners.

It would seem that Hermits aparently just can't be happy playing their games, they have to spend most of their life on here complaining about why game companies are abandoning the PC.......and you wonder why people stereo type PC gamers HMMM gee I wonder, do you ever do anything but spend your time on the computer complaining on game forums? Why do you have to turn EVERY THREAD into a PC vs Console thread?

Its sad, PC versions of games are miles ahead of the consoles, and you guys just can't be happy with that. Games aren't being dumbed down because of consoles, its because of devs, because as a general rule, casual gamers are the target audience now, look at CoD look how its taken off, a game that (now)requires little skill. looks like crap, resuses the same engine every year, yet its the top selling franchise of all time. Blame developers, not us console users, they just don't want to cater to the PC crowd anymore when the games sell way better on the consoles. And a s a console owner I have to except that while it sucks, parent will buy their kids a console for gaming before a PC "sigh"

I'm sorry but really you need to get your priorities straight, I'm sick of coming here seeing the PC users get all butt hurt in every thread thats up. I'm going back to playing Skyrim on my inferior xbox 360, because unlike most PC users, internet forums are not my life, and I enjoy my platform to the fullest. SO have fun not getting laid, playing WoW, living in your parent's basement, I'm not using gamespot anymore, this site is full of crybabies. Peace out F*GS!

famunda666

OH THE IRONY!

Gotta love it when consolites own themselves like this.

SO have fun not getting laid, playing WoW, living in your parent's basement, I'm not using gamespot anymore, this site is full of crybabies. Peace out F*GS!

famunda666

SO have fun not getting laid, playing WoW, living in your parent's basement, I'm not using gamespot anymore, this site is full of crybabies. Peace out F*GS!

famunda666

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

lol yeah no one cares which is why the pc only has 19% of the boxed and digital sales compared to 41% by the consoles. Nvidia seems really bitter maybe thats why they screwed Microsoft over with the original xbox and Sony with the ps3....

agpickle

The 41% divided by 3 equals about 13.6% for each console. 19>13.6.

[QUOTE="agpickle"]

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

lol yeah no one cares which is why the pc only has 19% of the boxed and digital sales compared to 41% by the consoles. Nvidia seems really bitter maybe thats why they screwed Microsoft over with the original xbox and Sony with the ps3....

Renzokucant

The 41% divided by 3 equals about 13.6% for each console. 19>13.6.

You should take that advice :P

[QUOTE="Renzokucant"][QUOTE="agpickle"]

The 41% divided by 3 equals about 13.6% for each console. 19>13.6.

NoodleFighter

You should take that advice :P

[QUOTE="Heirren"]

I don't think people argue this, but given that consoles are almost 7 years old, it is kind of sad that the difference isn't larger than it is. I saw some SkyrimPC and while it looks sharper, etc, it doesn't look leagues better. By this point, PC to Console should be like comparing a PS2 game to Uncharted 3. It clearly is not the case.

tomarlyn

[QUOTE="NoodleFighter"]

[QUOTE="Renzokucant"] Please... someone correct their math..... ok ok ill do it... 41 + 41 = 82 + 19 = 101%... so ur wrong ... and you don't divide 4r01% by 3 because where's the other 59%.... its 41% per console and 19 for pc which would be 101%... then divide that by 3... stay in school kids Renzokucant

You should take that advice :P

The 41% is the console market overall since were using this and again william was off by 2%

im pretty interested to know how nvidia screwed over the original x-box willbaker... noo really im interested in your skewed logic, how was microsoft getting a geforce 3 card/chipset in their console getting screwed over?

from what i remember the geforce 3 was a decent chip in pc land so how did the console get screwed over exactly?

i really want to know whats going on in that mind of yours so spill it :P

[QUOTE="famunda666"]

SO have fun not getting laid, playing WoW, living in your parent's basement, I'm not using gamespot anymore, this site is full of crybabies. Peace out F*GS!

Iantheone

This is considered news? Seriously? This is like a big breaking news bulletin interrupting TV broadcasts so the government can announce that the Sun is hot.TransFishers

OH MAH GAWD! We should blow the sun up if it's so hot! That'll teach global warming!

im pretty interested to know how nvidia screwed over the original x-box willbaker... noo really im interested in your skewed logic, how was microsoft getting a geforce 3 card/chipset in their console getting screwed over?

from what i remember the geforce 3 was a decent chip in pc land so how did the console get screwed over exactly?

i really want to know whats going on in that mind of yours so spill it :P

Yrkoon99

link

The dispute was sent to arbitration last week at the request of Microsoft, which is seeking damages for alleged violations of the agreement between the two companies, and it wants a reduction in chip-set pricing. Microsoft also has asked the arbitration panel to require Nvidia to supply chip sets in whatever quantities it orders, according to the SEC filing

NVIDIA and Microsoft can't agree on future development, manufacturing and pricing

It seems MS doesn't want Geforce 7 (NV47/G70)'s future development path.

[QUOTE="MK-Professor"]

[QUOTE="Heirren"]

I don't think people argue this, but given that consoles are almost 7 years old, it is kind of sad that the difference isn't larger than it is. I saw some SkyrimPC and while it looks sharper, etc, it doesn't look leagues better. By this point, PC to Console should be like comparing a PS2 game to Uncharted 3. It clearly is not the case.

Heirren

Actually it look leagues better, if you consider that consoles play Skyrim with 1024x600 and 30fps, and i play Skyrim with 1920x1200, 60fps, that is 4 times bigger resolution and 2 times more fps, this mean that it is already 8 (4x2) times better, and that don't even include the larger view distance, better texture, shadows, water, etc

Same engine though. The difference should be like comparing these two games, at this point in time.

killswitch

to

Uncharted 2

[QUOTE="tomarlyn"][QUOTE="Heirren"]

I don't think people argue this, but given that consoles are almost 7 years old, it is kind of sad that the difference isn't larger than it is. I saw some SkyrimPC and while it looks sharper, etc, it doesn't look leagues better. By this point, PC to Console should be like comparing a PS2 game to Uncharted 3. It clearly is not the case.

Bruin1986

And I see some people need an excuse to feel big and strong (not you).

Which I'm sure everybody was aware of. Heck, this just in, a HDTV will look better than a SDTV.

[QUOTE="Mystic-G"]Nobody will care just because Nvidia said it. Personally, I think Nvidia needs keep their mouth shut till they can get drivers that actually do the game justice. NoodleFighter

But if someone like Sony or Microsoft did the console users would care :P

[QUOTE="Bruin1986"][QUOTE="tomarlyn"] Yeah hermits talk about the huge differences in potential all the time and it's there, but in practice consoles lately are continuously holding there own.tomarlyn

And I see some people need an excuse to feel big and strong (not you).

remember project offset? Compared to other games at the time and now they trulely looked last gen compared to it with some exceptions like Crysis. Oh what about Crysis no console game could go anywhere near it in all factors until Crytek managed to away to make it do able on console but making several sacrifices. If I take a screenshot of Battlefield 3 on ultra and compare to what's considered the best looking game on consoles UC3 and Gears of War 3 wouldn't the differences be completely noticable. What about Metro 2033 where even low settings on PC out did the Xbox 360 version. Like the guy has said the potential is their but isn't being done due developers fear of being another Crysis in terms of sales and several other things.

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[QUOTE="Bruin1986"] The reason consoles are "holding their own" is because no company can justify to it's shareholders developing a AAA-budget PC-exclusive that targets only high-end rigs like Crysis did in 2007. Computers are massively more powerful now than in '07...if a company was actually given free reign and a large budget to go for a high end PC game it could make modern console games look like Pong. NoodleFighter

And I see some people need an excuse to feel big and strong (not you).

remember project offset? Compared to other games at the time and now they trulely looked last gen compared to it with some exceptions like Crysis.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcYJIhdszyA

[QUOTE="NoodleFighter"]

[QUOTE="tomarlyn"] You're absolutely right but it's all talk until the PC actually raises its game. The fact of the matter is that for whatever reason, the gap between consoles and the PC is not as big as it was in previous generations. Not as big as fanboys claim it is in a way people can actually take notice of at least. I want the PC to produce more experiences I can't get anywhere else, I want it to give me a serious reason to upgrade. I've done it many times before and I'll do it again when the PC actually DOES make console games look like pong.

And I see some people need an excuse to feel big and strong (not you).

mitu123

remember project offset? Compared to other games at the time and now they trulely looked last gen compared to it with some exceptions like Crysis.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcYJIhdszyA

If intel releases the game I'll throw out my AMD CPU and Motherboard and replace it with ivy bridge tech, till then I'll just kill all their employees one by one till they release it :twisted:

[QUOTE="Heirren"]

I don't think people argue this, but given that consoles are almost 7 years old, it is kind of sad that the difference isn't larger than it is. I saw some SkyrimPC and while it looks sharper, etc, it doesn't look leagues better. By this point, PC to Console should be like comparing a PS2 game to Uncharted 3. It clearly is not the case.

MK-Professor

Actually it look leagues better, if you consider that consoles play Skyrim with 1024x600 and 30fps, and i play Skyrim with 1920x1200, 60fps, that is 4 times bigger resolution and 2 times more fps, this mean that it is already 8 (4x2) times better, and that don't even include the larger view distance, better texture, shadows, water, etc

[QUOTE="MK-Professor"]

[QUOTE="Heirren"]

I don't think people argue this, but given that consoles are almost 7 years old, it is kind of sad that the difference isn't larger than it is. I saw some SkyrimPC and while it looks sharper, etc, it doesn't look leagues better. By this point, PC to Console should be like comparing a PS2 game to Uncharted 3. It clearly is not the case.

lowe0

Actually it look leagues better, if you consider that consoles play Skyrim with 1024x600 and 30fps, and i play Skyrim with 1920x1200, 60fps, that is 4 times bigger resolution and 2 times more fps, this mean that it is already 8 (4x2) times better, and that don't even include the larger view distance, better texture, shadows, water, etc

720 to 1080 is still a 65% increase in pixels

04dcarraher

I'm pretty sure it's a 125% increase in the amount of pixels.

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"]

720 to 1080 is still a 65% increase in pixels

ChubbyGuy40

I'm pretty sure it's a 125% increase in the amount of pixels.

and since consoles are played on TVs, most of the time, console users arent close enough to see how horribly low resolution everything is. Sitting at my PC playing skyrim, the textures are right in my facewis3boi

Ever look at UC3 textures up close? They're RAGE bad up close (then again, RAGE's aren't bad but many think they are.)

Nvidia try too hard. And they keep on trying and trying and trying. They make it sound like graphics are all games have going for them. They make PC gamers all sound like graphics whores.HalcyonScarlet

There's absolutely nothing wrong with them stating facts.

[QUOTE="HalcyonScarlet"]Nvidia try too hard. And they keep on trying and trying and trying. They make it sound like graphics are all games have going for them. They make PC gamers all sound like graphics whores.ChubbyGuy40

There's absolutely nothing wrong with them stating facts.

[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

[QUOTE="HalcyonScarlet"]Nvidia try too hard. And they keep on trying and trying and trying. They make it sound like graphics are all games have going for them. They make PC gamers all sound like graphics whores.HalcyonScarlet

There's absolutely nothing wrong with them stating facts.

PC can actually back up the claims of superiority. Console companies/developers try that and fall flat on their face, especially when they try to hype graphics.

Nobody will care just because Nvidia said it. Personally, I think Nvidia needs keep their mouth shut till they can get drivers that actually do the game justice. Mystic-G

I have no issues with BF3. I have a 460 1GB, my roommate has a 460 768mb, my sister has a 460 1GB, my friend has a 550 ti, and some people in my clan have a mix of 460, 460 SLI, 580, and 580 SLI. I have heard of no issues from them. nVidia is good with their drivers.

[QUOTE="HalcyonScarlet"][QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

There's absolutely nothing wrong with them stating facts.

ChubbyGuy40

PC can actually back up the claims of superiority. Console companies/developers try that and fall flat on their face, especially when they try to hype graphics.