Nvidia Strikes Back! GTX 580 comming...Next Week?! [56k] UPDATE Now Available!!

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#151 mitu123
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I don't see any PC games coming out that are going to require a GPU this powerfull.... So, whats the point?

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BF3, Crysis 2?
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#152 lawlessx
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[QUOTE="AdolescentDon"]

I don't see any PC games coming out that are going to require a GPU this powerfull.... So, whats the point?

mitu123
BF3, Crysis 2?

We will not need a GTX580 to run those games...
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#153 AdolescentDon
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[QUOTE="AdolescentDon"]

I don't see any PC games coming out that are going to require a GPU this powerfull.... So, whats the point?

mitu123
BF3, Crysis 2?

Thing is, you could probably max out both those games on a GPU that costs half as much as the GTX580.
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#154 mitu123
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[QUOTE="mitu123"][QUOTE="AdolescentDon"]

I don't see any PC games coming out that are going to require a GPU this powerfull.... So, whats the point?

lawlessx

BF3, Crysis 2?

We will not need a GTX580 to run those games...

How about to max them out? And I read the PC version of Crysis 2 might get delayed to take advantage of that card.

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#155 mitu123
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[QUOTE="mitu123"][QUOTE="AdolescentDon"]

I don't see any PC games coming out that are going to require a GPU this powerfull.... So, whats the point?

AdolescentDon

BF3, Crysis 2?

Thing is, you could probably max out both those games on a GPU that costs half as much as the GTX580.

But we need to know when they come out though, I bet it won't be that simple.

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#156 lawlessx
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[QUOTE="AdolescentDon"][QUOTE="mitu123"] BF3, Crysis 2?mitu123

Thing is, you could probably max out both those games on a GPU that costs half as much as the GTX580.

But we need to know when they come out though, I bet it won't be that simple.

If not im just going to buy another 470 and save me the trouble.
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#157 mitu123
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="AdolescentDon"] Thing is, you could probably max out both those games on a GPU that costs half as much as the GTX580. lawlessx

But we need to know when they come out though, I bet it won't be that simple.

If not im just going to buy another 470 and save me the trouble.

Good idea, I know these games will be demanding, just wondering about the maxing out thing.:P

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#158 psn8214
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[QUOTE="lawlessx"][QUOTE="mitu123"] But we need to know when they come out though, I bet it won't be that simple.

mitu123

If not im just going to buy another 470 and save me the trouble.

Good idea, I know these games will be demanding, just wondering about the maxing out thing.:P

I can almost guarantee I'll be able to max both of those with my 480. :P

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#159 lawlessx
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="lawlessx"] If not im just going to buy another 470 and save me the trouble.psn8214

Good idea, I know these games will be demanding, just wondering about the maxing out thing.:P

I can almost guarantee I'll be able to max both of those with my 480. :P

unless crysis 2 is indeed being pushed back on the PC to take advantage of the 580 :P

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#160 ZoomZoom2490
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the 480 is better than 5870 in every way possible.

more speed, better dx11, better drivers, better sli scaling, the list goes on.

the person who said 5870 takes a dump on 480 must be a die hard ati/amd fan.

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#161 pimpog
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I am almost sure crysis 2 will have some setting that can not be maxed or used with the current video cards like the 1st game did. I could be wrong but that is what happened with the 1st game. The console version will be most likely low to medium at best with some features missing. I am sure some console gamers will use crysis 2 on console as proof that the 360/ps3 is almost as good as the pc game, going by the comments I have seen here. I have a ps3 and wii as well as a decent gaming pc and my modest gaming pc on the same hdtv looks much better. Playing a ps3 game after playing on my pc is like going back to vhs after watching blu-ray. Better yet it is like playing cod on my wii then playing it on my ps3 there is just no contest. Now I am going to upgrade most likely to a 6900 amd card and be good for 2 years. The gtx580 will be strong for sure but I doubt it will match the price of the 6900 or even the performance. Going by the 6800's cards the features are also a step up vs the 4 series from nvidia. Maybe the gtx 580 will finally beat the 5970 that is like 1 year old and if the price drops maybe I will pick one up.
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#162 ZoomZoom2490
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i read somewhere that Crysis 2 will be very heavy on the cpu, up to 12 cores.

so if you're still gaming on dual core cpu i suggest to upgrade if crysis 2 is on your wish list.

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#163 theuncharted34
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nvidia cards are overpriced, and they produce alot more heat than the amd cards :P and use alot more power... why hasn't amd comepletly taken over the gpu market?

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#164 DragonfireXZ95
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nvidia cards are overpriced, and they produce more heat than a first gen xbox 360 :P and use alot more power... why hasn't amd comepletly taken over the gpu market?

theuncharted34
Because Nvidia cards are more powerful. Maybe that's why they use more power and are hotter? These AMD/ATI fanboys get really annoying after a while.
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#165 mitu123
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i read somewhere that Crysis 2 will be very heavy on the cpu, up to 12 cores.

so if you're still gaming on dual core cpu i suggest to upgrade if crysis 2 is on your wish list.

ZoomZoom2490

I also read about it taking advantage of the 580, wow, this game sounds demanding.

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#166 theuncharted34
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[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

nvidia cards are overpriced, and they produce more heat than a first gen xbox 360 :P and use alot more power... why hasn't amd comepletly taken over the gpu market?

DragonfireXZ95

Because Nvidia cards are more powerful. Maybe that's why they use more power and are hotter? These AMD/ATI fanboys get really annoying after a while.

the 6850's power is that of an gtx 460, and uses less power and runs alot cooler.

the 6870's power is that of the gtx 470 AND uses less power and runs alot cooler.

And the price.

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#167 raynimrod
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I think I'll stick with my current setup for now. I'm yet to find anything that even comes close to stressing my rig.

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#168 theuncharted34
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I think I'll stick with my current setup for now. I'm yet to find anything that even comes close to stressing my rig.

raynimrod

yeah... but can it run crysis? ... At "maximum speed!" :P

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#169 DragonfireXZ95
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[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"][QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

nvidia cards are overpriced, and they produce more heat than a first gen xbox 360 :P and use alot more power... why hasn't amd comepletly taken over the gpu market?

theuncharted34

Because Nvidia cards are more powerful. Maybe that's why they use more power and are hotter? These AMD/ATI fanboys get really annoying after a while.

the 6850's power is that of an gtx 460, and uses less power and runs alot cooler.

the 6870's power is that of the gtx 470 AND uses less power and runs alot cooler.

And the price.

So how's the 5870 compared to the 480 again? :P
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#170 theuncharted34
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[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"] Because Nvidia cards are more powerful. Maybe that's why they use more power and are hotter? These AMD/ATI fanboys get really annoying after a while.DragonfireXZ95

the 6850's power is that of an gtx 460, and uses less power and runs alot cooler.

the 6870's power is that of the gtx 470 AND uses less power and runs alot cooler.

And the price.

So how's the 5870 compared to the 480 again? :P

barely behind, while using less power and alot less heat :P

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#171 DragonfireXZ95
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[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"][QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

the 6850's power is that of an gtx 460, and uses less power and runs alot cooler.

the 6870's power is that of the gtx 470 AND uses less power and runs alot cooler.

And the price.

theuncharted34

So how's the 5870 compared to the 480 again? :P

barely behind, while using less power and alot less heat :P

Barely?

I got my 480 GTX early, when it was only like 50 bucks more than the 5870. It was worth it. Especially when we take physics into account.

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#172 theuncharted34
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[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"] So how's the 5870 compared to the 480 again? :PDragonfireXZ95

barely behind, while using less power and alot less heat :P

Barely?

I got my 480 GTX early, when it was only like 50 bucks more than the 5870. It was worth it. Especially when we take physics into account.

Wait till the 6970 comes out :P btw what performance do you get out of crysis with your rig?

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#173 DragonfireXZ95
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[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

barely behind, while using less power and alot less heat :P

theuncharted34

Barely?

I got my 480 GTX early, when it was only like 50 bucks more than the 5870. It was worth it. Especially when we take physics into account.

Wait till the 6970 comes out :P btw what performance do you get out of crysis with your rig?

And wait till the 580 GTX comes out. :P

I use a modified autoexec.cfg with Rygel's texture mod and I get a solid 30 fps throughout pretty much.

I'm using a 4 year old motherboard though lmao. I'm sure that bottlenecks the real performance. Probably gonna upgrade beginning of next year.

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#174 GTSaiyanjin2
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[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"] So how's the 5870 compared to the 480 again? :PDragonfireXZ95

barely behind, while using less power and alot less heat :P

Barely?

I got my 480 GTX early, when it was only like 50 bucks more than the 5870. It was worth it. Especially when we take physics into account.

Same reason I got mine as well, I was ready to buy 1 or 2 5870's but they were going for $450 and the MSRP when the cards came out was $369. In the end I got the GTX 480 for $499 with no tax. Its still the best single GPU out there especially if you over clock it, got 25k in Vantage with mine :twisted:

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#175 raynimrod
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[QUOTE="raynimrod"]

I think I'll stick with my current setup for now. I'm yet to find anything that even comes close to stressing my rig.

theuncharted34

yeah... but can it run crysis? ... At "maximum speed!" :P

icwutudidthar :P

But you answer your question, yes ;)

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#176 XanderZane
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Not wasting my money on that. Got bills to pay.

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#177 NVIDIATI
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[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"] So how's the 5870 compared to the 480 again? :PDragonfireXZ95

barely behind, while using less power and alot less heat :P

Barely?

I got my 480 GTX early, when it was only like 50 bucks more than the 5870. It was worth it. Especially when we take physics into account.

Yeah the 480 GTX is the better card, but it came out too late for me. I got my 5870 at launch for $400, and thanks to its low power requirements and low temps I've been able to keep a nice overclock.

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#178 Ikuto_Tsukiyomi
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Yeah the 480 GTX is the better card, but it came out too late for me. I got my 5870 at launch for $400, and thanks to its low power requirements and low temps I've been able to keep a nice overclock.

NVIDIATI

IMO, The GTX 580 should run nicely under water, Still not sure if it'll be cooler or hotter then the GTX 480, Can't find solid Information.

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#179 NVIDIATI
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Updated!

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#180 warmaster670
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Its to bad i could probably buy all 3 consoles for the price of it.

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#181 Zero5000X
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When is Nvidia supposed to come out with the $200-$250 price range 500 series cards?
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#182 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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I'll just stick with my monster GTX 480. :P
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#183 Heil68
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I'm waiting for the 5970's to drop or maybe get a 6870 since it's been coming back with good reviews on performance. I've been VERY happy with the 4870, but it's time to move on to DX11.
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#184 rogerjak
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I bet you're going to need a flux compacitor to supply the 1.21 giga watts needed to power that card. Also the official price is over 9000!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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That image wins the Internet prize of the day XD

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#185 NVIDIATI
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I'm waiting for the 5970's to drop or maybe get a 6870 since it's been coming back with good reviews on performance. I've been VERY happy with the 4870, but it's time to move on to DX11.Heil68
The 6870 isn't a big enough jump from the 4870, you should wait for the 69XX cards
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#186 harry_james_pot  Moderator
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This means a price drop on the 480, awesome. :D
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#187 deactivated-59d151f079814
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[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

nvidia cards are overpriced, and they produce more heat than a first gen xbox 360 :P and use alot more power... why hasn't amd comepletly taken over the gpu market?

DragonfireXZ95

Because Nvidia cards are more powerful. Maybe that's why they use more power and are hotter? These AMD/ATI fanboys get really annoying after a while.

Uhh.. What are you talking about? Power consumption is not a telltale sign to what piece of hardware is more powerful.. ATI and Nvidia have been trading blows since the beginning in constantly taking the lead or losing it in numerous price brackets..

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#188 deactivated-59d151f079814
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I'm waiting for the 5970's to drop or maybe get a 6870 since it's been coming back with good reviews on performance. I've been VERY happy with the 4870, but it's time to move on to DX11.Heil68

There is absolutely no reason to upgrade a 4870 right now.. It can still play any and all games at high to max settings..

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#189 Zurrur
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Wow with that thing i will be able to play my games at 200 FPS with 24x AA!

Too bad PC games haven't gotten graphically better since 2007 :(

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#190 tagyhag
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[QUOTE="Heil68"]I'm waiting for the 5970's to drop or maybe get a 6870 since it's been coming back with good reviews on performance. I've been VERY happy with the 4870, but it's time to move on to DX11.NVIDIATI
The 6870 isn't a big enough jump from the 4870, you should wait for the 69XX cards

Well from all the reviews that I've seen, most games get almost double the fps. (About 75-80%)

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#191 Ikuto_Tsukiyomi
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Its to bad i could probably buy all 3 consoles for the price of it.

warmaster670

Cool never knew they were gonna cost 1,400 a card. You must have a magical crystal ball! Can you tell me if I'm going to win the lottery too?

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#192 pimpog
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Just saw the reviews for the gtx 580 and it is still slower than the 5970 and both cost $499. Oh and the amd 6900 is still coming in a couple of weeks. Looking at the benchmarks the 5870 is a little slower or even a little faster in a couple benches vs gtx 480 and only cost $330. Nvidia is getting left behind it seems.

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#193 GTSaiyanjin2
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Pretty impressive card.... beats the GTX 480 by a good 30% or more in most test.

http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-580-review/16

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#194 dontshackzmii
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eeew nvidia

tc your ati theme is out of date you need to be called nvidia amd

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#195 NVIDIATI
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[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

eeew nvidia

tc your ati theme is out of date you need to be called nvidia amd

It will always be ATI to me...
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#196 Ultra_Combo
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my HD 5870 will suffice for now.

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#197 deactivated-61010a1ed19f4
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I dont get this, Doesnt the 480 already do everything, and has only been out for a day or 2 ?
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#198 pimpog
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Pretty impressive card.... beats the GTX 480 by a good 30% or more in most test.

http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-580-review/16

GTSaiyanjin2

Not that impressive the 460 in sli and the 6850 in crossfire beat it for under $350 and it's not 30% faster hell not even 20% in some games.

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#199 Mr_BillGates
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It's cool and all, but when it uses more wattage than an entire console, there is something wrong here.

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#200 NVIDIATI
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It's cool and all, but when it uses more wattage than an entire console, there is something wrong here.

Mr_BillGates

Yet its drastically more powerful then the 3 consoles combined.