Oblivion: PC vs PS3 vs X360

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#51 ColoradoKindBud
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[QUOTE="ColoradoKindBud"]No, what's redundant is PC graphics whores acting like their version is so much better just because there's some better textures & draw distances. Big freaking deal. All 3 versions have the same content & all 3 versions will get expansions/downloads etc. The only way in which the PC version is better than the console version is mods. But that in no way means that the game is bad or not worth owning on consoles. Velocitas8

Nobody said the console versions weren't worth owning.

You were trying to act like the 360 version was better when that very clearly isn't the case.

I wasn't trying to act like the 360 version was better, I said it scored better here at GS.  We are in System Wars after all so you cannot ignore that fact.

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#52 Velocitas8
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PS3 > PC > X360.

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PCs that can do that though are insanely costly. A PS3 is one third the cost of a PC built to handle that.Skippyj9
if by "that" you mean crysis, and by "PS3", you mean core PS3, then yes.
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[QUOTE="Only_the_Truth"]

[QUOTE="lawsonboy"][QUOTE="Kayrod29"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]Gamespot reviews "The high end PC version is clearly better". Problem solved.lawsonboy

Gamespot also says: Xbox 360 9.6> PC 9.3 Problem solved.



Exactly and the only real noticable difference to me is the slightly muddy textures from far away on the 360. That's not enough for me to say PC version is better.

Your totally blind if you can;t see the VASTLY superior graphics of the PC version. Massively more detailed distance textures, massively more detailed foreground textures and considerably more object detail in the background (rock, buildings etc...)



Hey Oblivion looks great to me on my 65" HDTV.  Who wants to spend 150 hours sitting at a computer desk so I can see a few extra trees in the background and the dirt looks more detailed? 

And like I said, 360 costs $400.  What is the cost of the PC that those pics came from?  And what is the cost of the PC needed for the minimum system requirements which are pretty hefty?  Every game is going to look more detailed on a PC moniter from an expensive high end PC.

The question is is the difference in price worth the difference in game quality?  I say no.  The 360 version looks pretty great to me.

Yeah and I can hook up my PC to my 50 inch plasma too. Wippideedoo.
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#55 smokeydabear076
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[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="baddog121390"][QUOTE="Only_the_Truth"]

Spot the difference:


Thats what we call complete ownage.

baddog121390
This is some serious ownage.

Without mods the margin of "ownage" is a lot less.



Like these two? (Note: Second one is 1920x1200 res) Both taken from my comp.

Well it has been a long time since I have played the game unmodded so I guess that I was wrong about that.
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[QUOTE="Only_the_Truth"]

[QUOTE="lawsonboy"][QUOTE="Kayrod29"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]Gamespot reviews "The high end PC version is clearly better". Problem solved.lawsonboy

Gamespot also says: Xbox 360 9.6> PC 9.3 Problem solved.



Exactly and the only real noticable difference to me is the slightly muddy textures from far away on the 360. That's not enough for me to say PC version is better.

Your totally blind if you can;t see the VASTLY superior graphics of the PC version. Massively more detailed distance textures, massively more detailed foreground textures and considerably more object detail in the background (rock, buildings etc...)



Hey Oblivion looks great to me on my 65" HDTV. Who wants to spend 150 hours sitting at a computer desk so I can see a few extra trees in the background and the dirt looks more detailed?

And like I said, 360 costs $400. What is the cost of the PC that those pics came from? And what is the cost of the PC needed for the minimum system requirements which are pretty hefty? Every game is going to look more detailed on a PC moniter from an expensive high end PC.

The question is is the difference in price worth the difference in game quality? I say no. The 360 version looks pretty great to me.

A few more trees and better looking dirt? Ahahaha damage control to the max. Everything from anitrophic filtering, reflection on the water from everything, sky enhancers (stars will twinkle), higher poly counts, more objects on-screen, better draw distance etc.

And that 65inch TV means crap all compared to my 1920x1200 LCD with much better contrast, colours etc.
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#57 Velocitas8
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I wasn't trying to act like the 360 version was better, I said it scored better here at GS. We are in System Wars after all so you cannot ignore that fact.ColoradoKindBud

You responded to Vandalvideo saying the PC version was better with "Xbox 360 9.6> PC 9.3," implying this meant the game was better on the 360.

Which version scored higher is irrelevant. Which version is better is what we were discussing.
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#58 Only_the_Truth
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[QUOTE="Only_the_Truth"]

Spot the difference:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v313/acason/Oblivion360.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v313/acason/OblivionPS3.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/pjbliverpool/Oblivion_PC.jpg

Thats what we call complete ownage.

lawsonboy



And why don't you include the minimum system requirements to run Oblivion on and what the specs were for the PC in which those images came from?  I don't want to pay $1500 for the PC that makes my 360 Oblivion look slightly better!

Your post is lame and fails.

No, my post slaps you and your pals down with a heavy fist of ownage.  That PC is a Core2 Duo and 8800GTS, yes its expensive compared to a console but its also capable of a HELL of lot more.  Plus, I can afford it, if you can't, why should that effect which version of the game is better?

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[QUOTE="baddog121390"][QUOTE="ColoradoKindBud"]PC version scored lower than the 360 version. Nuff said...ColoradoKindBud

Standards. Nuff said lemming.

Doesn't change the fact that PC version scored lower than 360 version.  Make up whatever excuse you want, it still doesn't change the fact. 

let me ask you two questions: which version of madden 07 scored highest? now, which version was the best looking?
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No, my post slaps you and your pals down with a heavy fist of ownage. That PC is a Core2 Duo and 8800GTS, yes its expensive compared to a console but its also capable of a HELL of lot more. Plus, I can afford it, if you can't, why should that effect which version of the game is better?Only_the_Truth


Not to mention the fact that if you want to play Oblivion in HD on the consoles you need a HDTV.
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Hey Oblivion looks great to me on my 65" HDTV.  Who wants to spend 150 hours sitting at a computer desk so I can see a few extra trees in the background and the dirt looks more detailed? 

And like I said, 360 costs $400.  What is the cost of the PC that those pics came from?  And what is the cost of the PC needed for the minimum system requirements which are pretty hefty?  Every game is going to look more detailed on a PC moniter from an expensive high end PC.

The question is is the difference in price worth the difference in game quality?  I say no.  The 360 version looks pretty great to me.
lawsonboy

And how much did that 65" HDTV cost? Adding that up with your 360, you could probably get a PC for the same price and it'll look graphically better.

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[QUOTE="lawsonboy"][QUOTE="Only_the_Truth"]

[QUOTE="lawsonboy"][QUOTE="Kayrod29"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]Gamespot reviews "The high end PC version is clearly better". Problem solved.Killfox

Gamespot also says: Xbox 360 9.6> PC 9.3 Problem solved.



Exactly and the only real noticable difference to me is the slightly muddy textures from far away on the 360. That's not enough for me to say PC version is better.

Your totally blind if you can;t see the VASTLY superior graphics of the PC version. Massively more detailed distance textures, massively more detailed foreground textures and considerably more object detail in the background (rock, buildings etc...)



Hey Oblivion looks great to me on my 65" HDTV. Who wants to spend 150 hours sitting at a computer desk so I can see a few extra trees in the background and the dirt looks more detailed?

And like I said, 360 costs $400. What is the cost of the PC that those pics came from? And what is the cost of the PC needed for the minimum system requirements which are pretty hefty? Every game is going to look more detailed on a PC moniter from an expensive high end PC.

The question is is the difference in price worth the difference in game quality? I say no. The 360 version looks pretty great to me.

Yeah and I can hook up my PC to my 50 inch plasma too. Wippideedoo.



Yeah Hermits always say that and how often do you ACTUALLY unhook your PC with all of the wires and carry it into the room where your plasma is?  Why would anybody do that?

Because you have to pay a great deal more...appoximately 3X the cost of the 360 to get a version of Oblivion that might be 10-20% better graphically, it isn't worth it.
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[QUOTE="lawsonboy"][QUOTE="Only_the_Truth"]

[QUOTE="lawsonboy"][QUOTE="Kayrod29"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]Gamespot reviews "The high end PC version is clearly better". Problem solved.Killfox

Gamespot also says: Xbox 360 9.6> PC 9.3 Problem solved.



Exactly and the only real noticable difference to me is the slightly muddy textures from far away on the 360. That's not enough for me to say PC version is better.

Your totally blind if you can;t see the VASTLY superior graphics of the PC version. Massively more detailed distance textures, massively more detailed foreground textures and considerably more object detail in the background (rock, buildings etc...)



Hey Oblivion looks great to me on my 65" HDTV. Who wants to spend 150 hours sitting at a computer desk so I can see a few extra trees in the background and the dirt looks more detailed?

And like I said, 360 costs $400. What is the cost of the PC that those pics came from? And what is the cost of the PC needed for the minimum system requirements which are pretty hefty? Every game is going to look more detailed on a PC moniter from an expensive high end PC.

The question is is the difference in price worth the difference in game quality? I say no. The 360 version looks pretty great to me.

Yeah and I can hook up my PC to my 50 inch plasma too. Wippideedoo.

I still would really like to know where you bought your hardware! Because it sounds like a great deal.
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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="ColoradoKindBud"]

[QUOTE="baddog121390"][QUOTE="ColoradoKindBud"]PC version scored lower than the 360 version. Nuff said...ColoradoKindBud

Standards. Nuff said lemming.

Doesn't change the fact that PC version scored lower than 360 version.  'Nuff said...

Your arguement is extremely redundant. In that same review they state "The PC version is clearly better". -_-

No, what's redundant is PC graphics whores acting like their version is so much better just because there's some better textures & draw distances.  Big freaking deal.  All 3 versions have the same content & all 3 versions will get expansions/downloads etc.  The only way in which the PC version is better than the console version is mods.  But that in no way means that the game is bad or not worth owning on consoles. 

The PC version IS much better.  Not only do the graohics completely pWn the 360 but the gameplay can be massively improved aswell, specifically the screwed up leveling system.

Oh, and did I mention load times?

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[QUOTE="lawsonboy"][QUOTE="Only_the_Truth"]

[QUOTE="lawsonboy"][QUOTE="Kayrod29"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]Gamespot reviews "The high end PC version is clearly better". Problem solved.Killfox

Gamespot also says: Xbox 360 9.6> PC 9.3 Problem solved.



Exactly and the only real noticable difference to me is the slightly muddy textures from far away on the 360. That's not enough for me to say PC version is better.

Your totally blind if you can;t see the VASTLY superior graphics of the PC version. Massively more detailed distance textures, massively more detailed foreground textures and considerably more object detail in the background (rock, buildings etc...)



Hey Oblivion looks great to me on my 65" HDTV.  Who wants to spend 150 hours sitting at a computer desk so I can see a few extra trees in the background and the dirt looks more detailed? 

And like I said, 360 costs $400.  What is the cost of the PC that those pics came from?  And what is the cost of the PC needed for the minimum system requirements which are pretty hefty?  Every game is going to look more detailed on a PC moniter from an expensive high end PC.

The question is is the difference in price worth the difference in game quality?  I say no.  The 360 version looks pretty great to me.

Yeah and I can hook up my PC to my 50 inch plasma too. Wippideedoo.

Playing PC on my couch is extremley uncomfortable. Plus it's a pain in the ass to do with practically no place for it.

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#66 Killfox
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[QUOTE="Only_the_Truth"]No, my post slaps you and your pals down with a heavy fist of ownage. That PC is a Core2 Duo and 8800GTS, yes its expensive compared to a console but its also capable of a HELL of lot more. Plus, I can afford it, if you can't, why should that effect which version of the game is better?foxhound_fox


Not to mention the fact that if you want to play Oblivion in HD on the consoles you need a HDTV.

Oblivion on an SDTV looks pretty good though. It one of those game that still looks good on a SDTV. But like alot of other game on 360 it looks like crap on an SDTV compared to an HDTV. HDTV rule.
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The PC is by the best. But with the patch, the 360's pic will def. look better.Tulak_Hord

If you believe that then your dellusional.  The PC graphics obliterate the 360, fictional patch or not.

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[QUOTE="lawsonboy"]
Hey Oblivion looks great to me on my 65" HDTV. Who wants to spend 150 hours sitting at a computer desk so I can see a few extra trees in the background and the dirt looks more detailed?

And like I said, 360 costs $400. What is the cost of the PC that those pics came from? And what is the cost of the PC needed for the minimum system requirements which are pretty hefty? Every game is going to look more detailed on a PC moniter from an expensive high end PC.

The question is is the difference in price worth the difference in game quality? I say no. The 360 version looks pretty great to me.
Shadow-Eagle

And how much did that 65" HDTV cost? adding that up with your 360, you could probably get a PC for the same price and it'll look graphically better.



My 65" TV can be viewed from the comfort of my couch.  I can turn on my 360, TV, DVD player from the comfort of my couch.  I can watch movies, TV, sports, and video games on my HDTV all from the comfort of my sofa.

That version of Oblivion posted here is maybe 10-20% better graphically then the 360 version and the cost of the PC that is running it is easily >3 times the cost of the 360. 
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My 65" TV can be viewed from the comfort of my couch.lawsonboy
that wasn't the question.
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[QUOTE="baddog121390"][QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="baddog121390"][QUOTE="Only_the_Truth"]

Spot the difference:


Thats what we call complete ownage.

smokeydabear076
This is some serious ownage.

Without mods the margin of "ownage" is a lot less.



Like these two? (Note: Second one is 1920x1200 res) Both taken from my comp.

Well it has been a long time since I have played the game unmodded so I guess that I was wrong about that.

It's definitely noticeable in-game. And the ground textures are much more sharp. And the foilage is much more thick:


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PS3 > PC > X360.

kinq

LOL!

Anyways, the Pc version is better than the 360's. The only reason that the 360 got a higher score was because the reviewer gave a lower tilit for the Pc than the 360. Otherwise the scores are the same. Now as time has gone on, the Pc version of Oblvion has gotten better since the review because of mods that really help gameplay and graphics whereas the 360 version has stayed the same.

Regardless of whether the 360 of the pc's is better though, it's obvious that the Ps3 version of Oblivion is going to be the worst of the 3 because it was a year late if nothing else.
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For this one I will have to give it PC. I mean, i will probably be able to use my 360 controller on it, it looks better. I can use a wireless KB/M if I have to (I prefer controllers though), I can connect my PC to alot of HDTV's to make it look even better. Plus mods. I would tip my hats to the PC version SOLELY for mods, i wouldn't care to much about the rest since I prefer console gaming, it is pretty cheap and you only have to buy the console once, instead of upgrading.
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[QUOTE="kinq"]

PS3 > PC > X360.

Nonam3gamer

LOL!

Anyways, the Pc version is better than the 360's. The only reason that the 360 got a higher score was because the reviewer gave a lower tilit for the Pc than the 360. Otherwise the scores are the same. Now as time has gone on, the Pc version of Oblvion has gotten better since the review because of mods that really help gameplay and graphics whereas the 360 version has stayed the same.

Regardless of whether the 360 of the pc's is better though, it's obvious that the Ps3 version of Oblivion is going to be the worst of the 3 because it was a year late if nothing else.

What kind of PC mods are out now? Is there a place I can look them up.........
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[QUOTE="lawsonboy"]My 65" TV can be viewed from the comfort of my couch.Hewkii
that wasn't the question.

...the cost of the PC that is running it is easily >3 times the cost of the 360.lawsonboy

You sure about that?

Yeah um no. I payed about $650 for my comp. Also you pay 60$ while I pay $30.Killfox

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#75 Darth_Stalin
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[QUOTE="kinq"]

PS3 > PC > X360.

Nonam3gamer

LOL!

Anyways, the Pc version is better than the 360's. The only reason that the 360 got a higher score was because the reviewer gave a lower tilit for the Pc than the 360. Otherwise the scores are the same. Now as time has gone on, the Pc version of Oblvion has gotten better since the review because of mods that really help gameplay and graphics whereas the 360 version has stayed the same.

Regardless of whether the 360 of the pc's is better though, it's obvious that the Ps3 version of Oblivion is going to be the worst of the 3 because it was a year late if nothing else.



And it won't get all the DLC.
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[QUOTE="lawsonboy"][QUOTE="Only_the_Truth"]

[QUOTE="lawsonboy"][QUOTE="Kayrod29"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]Gamespot reviews "The high end PC version is clearly better". Problem solved.baddog121390

Gamespot also says: Xbox 360 9.6> PC 9.3 Problem solved.



Exactly and the only real noticable difference to me is the slightly muddy textures from far away on the 360. That's not enough for me to say PC version is better.

Your totally blind if you can;t see the VASTLY superior graphics of the PC version. Massively more detailed distance textures, massively more detailed foreground textures and considerably more object detail in the background (rock, buildings etc...)



Hey Oblivion looks great to me on my 65" HDTV. Who wants to spend 150 hours sitting at a computer desk so I can see a few extra trees in the background and the dirt looks more detailed?

And like I said, 360 costs $400. What is the cost of the PC that those pics came from? And what is the cost of the PC needed for the minimum system requirements which are pretty hefty? Every game is going to look more detailed on a PC moniter from an expensive high end PC.

The question is is the difference in price worth the difference in game quality? I say no. The 360 version looks pretty great to me.

A few more trees and better looking dirt? Ahahaha damage control to the max. Everything from anitrophic filtering, reflection on the water from everything, sky enhancers (stars will twinkle), higher poly counts, more objects on-screen, better draw distance etc.

And that 65inch TV means crap all compared to my 1920x1200 LCD with much better contrast, colours etc.



65" compared to what...20"?  Sorry son, but size matters!
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Yeah Hermits always say that and how often do you ACTUALLY unhook your PC with all of the wires and carry it into the room where your plasma is? Why would anybody do that?

Because you have to pay a great deal more...appoximately 3X the cost of the 360 to get a version of Oblivion that might be 10-20% better graphically, it isn't worth it.
lawsonboy

You don't necessarily have to unhook anything. I've seen setups with an HDTV on the wall across the room from the PC or on the wall in front, and all one has to do is switch their video card output from their monitor to their HDTV. It isn't terribly hard to set up and most modern video cards support multiple outputs.

Who the hell would want to play a PC game on an HDTV, though? You get much better resolutions, a clearer picture, better refresh rates and higher contrast ratios on your typical LCD or CRT monitor.

Also, factor in the cost of a HDTV in the price of a console gaming setup since that's what you need to get visuals on par with your typical PC setup.
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Hey Oblivion looks great to me on my 65" HDTV.  Who wants to spend 150 hours sitting at a computer desk so I can see a few extra trees in the background and the dirt looks more detailed?  lawsonboy

Except the PC version can be played on a TV aswell using the 360 pad and the same controls as the 360 version if we so choose.  So point failed.

In fact the shot in the first post was taken while I played the game at 1280x768 on my own HDTV.

And like I said, 360 costs $400.  What is the cost of the PC that those pics came from?  And what is the cost of the PC needed for the minimum system requirements which are pretty hefty?  Every game is going to look more detailed on a PC moniter from an expensive high end PC.

What is the GAMING const of the PC that shot came from?  About £280 which was the cost of the GPU.  The rest is part of the cost for the PC which has many, many, MANY more functions than the 360.

The question is is the difference in price worth the difference in game quality?  I say no.  The 360 version looks pretty great to me.

No, the quetion is which looks better.  And the answer is the PC version.  I really don't care if your too poor to afford a good PC, thats not my problem, its your problem.

It may not be worth it "to you", but all that means is you lack the money for the better experience.  I don't, therefore I get the better experience.  Saying "its not worth it to me" won't change that one bit.

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I dont like playing on my couch. In fact when ever I play my 360 I play it in a chair. Its more comfortable to me. Also not sure if that one kid was talking about where to get a great price go to newegg.com.
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[QUOTE="lawsonboy"]My 65" TV can be viewed from the comfort of my couch.Hewkii
that wasn't the question.



You can get a 65" 1080i HDTV for less than $1000 now brand new and about $700 used.

$1000 HDTV    >>>>>$1400 PC
$400 360

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#81 Velocitas8
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65" compared to what...20"? Sorry son, but size matters!lawsonboy

The only reason you need a larger screen is because you sit much further away.

Size does matter though. How about a resolution of 2048x1536 >>>>> 1280x720?

Your typical PC monitor is spec-by-spec superior to your typical high-end, much more expensive HDTV.
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#82 Killfox
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[QUOTE="Hewkii"][QUOTE="lawsonboy"]My 65" TV can be viewed from the comfort of my couch.lawsonboy
that wasn't the question.



You can get a 65" 1080i HDTV for less than $1000 now brand new and about $700 used.

$1000 HDTV    >>>>>$1400 PC
$400 360

1080i is crap. 1080p is god.
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#83 CassiusVII
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who cares... story line aint going to be different... Ngon

quote of the century... right here ... i hate pople who just care about graphics.
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#84 Darth_Stalin
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[QUOTE="Hewkii"][QUOTE="lawsonboy"]My 65" TV can be viewed from the comfort of my couch.lawsonboy
that wasn't the question.



You can get a 65" 1080i HDTV for less than $1000 now brand new and about $700 used.

$1000 HDTV >>>>>$1400 PC
$400 360

Where is that......I am looking for an HDTV for my 360. The one that caught my eye was the 23" Philips 1080i HDTV (don't want to spend too much, I'm a student here ;) ) And it is $579, where can I buy a TV for about that price?
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#85 Shadow-Eagle
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$1000 HDTV    >>>>>$1400 PC
$400 360
lawsonboy

Yeah um no. I payed about $650 for my comp. Also you pay 60$ while I pay $30.Killfox

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[QUOTE="baddog121390"][QUOTE="lawsonboy"][QUOTE="Only_the_Truth"]

[QUOTE="lawsonboy"][QUOTE="Kayrod29"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]Gamespot reviews "The high end PC version is clearly better". Problem solved.lawsonboy

Gamespot also says: Xbox 360 9.6> PC 9.3 Problem solved.



Exactly and the only real noticable difference to me is the slightly muddy textures from far away on the 360. That's not enough for me to say PC version is better.

Your totally blind if you can;t see the VASTLY superior graphics of the PC version. Massively more detailed distance textures, massively more detailed foreground textures and considerably more object detail in the background (rock, buildings etc...)



Hey Oblivion looks great to me on my 65" HDTV. Who wants to spend 150 hours sitting at a computer desk so I can see a few extra trees in the background and the dirt looks more detailed?

And like I said, 360 costs $400. What is the cost of the PC that those pics came from? And what is the cost of the PC needed for the minimum system requirements which are pretty hefty? Every game is going to look more detailed on a PC moniter from an expensive high end PC.

The question is is the difference in price worth the difference in game quality? I say no. The 360 version looks pretty great to me.

A few more trees and better looking dirt? Ahahaha damage control to the max. Everything from anitrophic filtering, reflection on the water from everything, sky enhancers (stars will twinkle), higher poly counts, more objects on-screen, better draw distance etc.

And that 65inch TV means crap all compared to my 1920x1200 LCD with much better contrast, colours etc.



65" compared to what...20"? Sorry son, but size matters!

24" to you mister.

And a 24" 1900x1200 LCD monitor 2 feet away from you is the equivalent of a 100"  TV 15 feet away from you.
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#87 Killfox
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[QUOTE="lawsonboy"]$1000 HDTV    >>>>>$1400 PC
$400 360
Shadow-Eagle

Yeah um no. I payed about $650 for my comp. Also you pay 60$ while I pay $30.Killfox

Yeah that is correct. If you take out the the zalman stuff. Thats just for to make stuff look fancy and be able to OC the crap out of it. I payed Around $650 for the rest of the comp.
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Yeah Hermits always say that and how often do you ACTUALLY unhook your PC with all of the wires and carry it into the room where your plasma is?  Why would anybody do that?lawsonboy

Err, unlike consoles friend, PC's have dual outputs.  We can output through a TV AND monitor at the same time.  You know... that big feature of the PS3 that was hyped up but never made it.  Playing a game on my TV from the PC which is hooked up to the monitor is as easy as changing the channel.  Ooooohhh "teh compexiteez"

Because you have to pay a great deal more...appoximately 3X the cost of the 360 to get a version of Oblivion that might be 10-20% better graphically, it isn't worth it.

WRONG.

A PC has many more functions than a console.  Thus I compare the cost of my PC to the cost of your console AND your PC.  Factor in my free online, my considerably cheaper games (multiplied by how many you by over 4-5 years) and the fact that my PC is certainly much better than yours and the cost difference is insignificant, in fact it may even favour the high end PC.

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Wait for the PS3 review before we start this arguement.
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#90 MasterChief1013
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[QUOTE="Velocitas8"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]Gamespot reviews "The high end PC version is clearly better". Problem solved.


The PC version also completely blows the console versions away with LoD texture mods, face texture resolution improvements, the natural environments mod, water improvment mods, land and city retexture projects, open citiy mods, the list goes on and on.


coming from me, someone who's spent a total of 250+ hours on Oblivion, (PC and X360 version), i say the difference is minimal, it all comes down to which system you own, or if you're into modding or modifying the game.
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#91 Only_the_Truth
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[QUOTE="Killfox"][QUOTE="lawsonboy"][QUOTE="Only_the_Truth"]

[QUOTE="lawsonboy"][QUOTE="Kayrod29"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]Gamespot reviews "The high end PC version is clearly better". Problem solved.jack244

Gamespot also says: Xbox 360 9.6> PC 9.3 Problem solved.



Exactly and the only real noticable difference to me is the slightly muddy textures from far away on the 360. That's not enough for me to say PC version is better.

Your totally blind if you can;t see the VASTLY superior graphics of the PC version. Massively more detailed distance textures, massively more detailed foreground textures and considerably more object detail in the background (rock, buildings etc...)



Hey Oblivion looks great to me on my 65" HDTV.  Who wants to spend 150 hours sitting at a computer desk so I can see a few extra trees in the background and the dirt looks more detailed? 

And like I said, 360 costs $400.  What is the cost of the PC that those pics came from?  And what is the cost of the PC needed for the minimum system requirements which are pretty hefty?  Every game is going to look more detailed on a PC moniter from an expensive high end PC.

The question is is the difference in price worth the difference in game quality?  I say no.  The 360 version looks pretty great to me.

Yeah and I can hook up my PC to my 50 inch plasma too. Wippideedoo.

Playing PC on my couch is extremley uncomfortable. Plus it's a pain in the ass to do with practically no place for it.

Huh?  Explain how using the 360 controller plugged into a PC is "more uncomfortable" than using the 360 controller plugged into a 360 from the couch.

Can't?  Yes, thats what I thought. 

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That version of Oblivion posted here is maybe 10-20% better graphically then the 360 version and the cost of the PC that is running it is easily >3 times the cost of the 360. 
lawsonboy

Your blind.  10-20% is a complete joke.  Its clearly, far, FAR better.  Its impossible to quantify something like this but "twice" as good would be far more accurate than "10-20%".

And again.  Cheaper games, free online, "free high end PC"....

How does that factor into your cost calculations, hmmm?

Oh, and for the record, yes you can turn on your 360 from the couch but you can't put the games in the drive from the couch can you?  Nore do you keep your 360 controller within arm distance of the couch I expect.  The point is that yes, I have to get up to turn the game on at the PC if I want to play it on the PC but friend.... so do you.

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#93 avenger_dot
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Spot the difference:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v313/acason/Oblivion360.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v313/acason/OblivionPS3.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/pjbliverpool/Oblivion_PC.jpg

Thats what we call complete ownage.

Only_the_Truth

So, which mods did that on pc ? I have seen most mods, but none is that good

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[QUOTE="Velocitas8"][QUOTE="Kayrod29"]Gamespot also says: Xbox 360 9.6> PC 9.3 Problem solved.


List the ways it's better. Can you even name one? I'll name some ways the PC version is better:

-Better visuals
-Better framerates
-Much faster load times
-Mods (online play falls under this too)
-Control/UI customization
-The game itself is much cheaper

The 360 has what? A better control setup for navigating the menus? :lol:


There is a mod to fix that too.....
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#95 Makari
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[QUOTE="Only_the_Truth"]

Spot the difference:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v313/acason/Oblivion360.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v313/acason/OblivionPS3.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/pjbliverpool/Oblivion_PC.jpg

Thats what we call complete ownage.

avenger_dot

So, which mods did that on pc ? I have seen most mods, but none is that good

possibly qarl's texture pack 3 beta or something.
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#96 Only_the_Truth
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"65" compared to what...20"?  Sorry son, but size matters!"

Actually, viweing distance matters just as much as size and since monitors are generally viewed from a much shorter distance because of a the vastly superior dot pitch, a 24" monitor can fill your field of view a hell of a lot more than a 60" TV from 4 times greater distance.

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I just got that 4096 Qarl LOD normals compressed mod yesterday. It's awesome. Although, since the DDS files are compressed with DXT1, there can be some pixelazation in up-close LOD maps. Apparently, the uncompressed version will require around 640mb of VRAM to use since the files are 50mb apiece. Combine the Qarl LOD normals with the Better Tiling LOD mod, Natural Environments 2, Enhanced Water 2.0 HD, and Qarl's Texture Pack 3, and you have an absolutely phenomenal looking Oblivion. I just took some screenshots. Enjoy. http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v502/Einhanderkiller/Games/ As you can see from some screenshots, some areas look pretty bad, while others look really good.
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PC version scored lower than the 360 version. Nuff said...ColoradoKindBud
360 also has no other RPGs to compete with.
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#99 Only_the_Truth
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[QUOTE="Hewkii"][QUOTE="lawsonboy"]My 65" TV can be viewed from the comfort of my couch.lawsonboy
that wasn't the question.



You can get a 65" 1080i HDTV for less than $1000 now brand new and about $700 used.

$1000 HDTV    >>>>>$1400 PC
$400 360

And...

$1400 PC + $1000 HDTV >>>>> $400 X360 + $1000 HDTV + $400 PC + $40/year online subscription + $20 premium on each game.

:lol:

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#100 poopinloop32
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only on the PC you can do this...
http://youtube.com/watch?v=UyHiIeBsc9E