Ocarina 3D debut failed in JP. Little Battler Xperience PSP debuts at No.1.

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#1 digimonkey12
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http://www.gamespot.com/ds/puzzle/pokemontypingds/news/6321036/big-in-japan-june-13-19-zelda-3d

I love facts :lol:

1. Danball Senki / Level 5 / PSP / 166,187 - new -
2. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D / Nintendo / 3DS / 164,110 - new -

And it seems that Ocarina 3D was not the game that made people ( at least in JP ) going nuts for the 3DS. I mean 9K more than the PSP this week is not that impressive !

3DS – 40,649
PSP – 31,741.

And withBlack Rock Shooter- ブラック★ロックシューターBurakku Rokku Shūtā - and Final Fantasy Type-0- ファイナルファンタジー 零式Fainaru Fantajī Reishiki - soon released In JP, the PSP will surge pass the 3DS and the gain the No.1 spot again as it has been for the past 18 months.



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#2 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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The PSP userbase is way bigger than the 3DS, it's not weird at all that PSP game outsells OoT.
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#3 LegatoSkyheart
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Not a Huge Victory for the 3DS, but not a Huge Victory for the PSP either.

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#4 RR360DD
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LOL Zelda just isn't relevant anymore.
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#5 Twin-Blade
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I don't think I've played a Level 5 game, but every game I see made by them looks great. Not sure what Little Battler Xperience is though.

Edit: Turns out I OWN a Level 5 game.. I'll open my copy of DQ8 as soon as I finish Persona 3.

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A game on a system with a userbase of 17 million outsells a game on a system with a userbase of 1 million? Who would have thought? :shock:
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This was posted a while ago and when it was debated then you are missing several facts and ignoring them

1 PSP has more units sold

2 Its Level 5

and if you compared the handheld units to the software units sold OOT 3ds sold a bigger ratio

Good job trying to spin something but it failed badly

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#8 digimonkey12
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The PSP userbase is way bigger than the 3DS, it's not weird at all that PSP game outsells OoT.IronBass
Meh ! The point is Oot was not the game that made people in JP go out and buy a 3DS.
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#9 Heil68
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bu bu bu OoT 3D is a system seller!!!! :cry:
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Meh ! The point is Oot was not the game that made people in JP go out and buy a 3DS.digimonkey12
The 3DS got a sales bump.
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#11 digimonkey12
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A game on a system with a userbase of 17 million outsells a game on a system with a userbase of 1 million? Who would have thought? :shock:charizard1605
It is great is it not ;-) 3DS will probably not sell as many.
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[QUOTE="digimonkey12"] Meh ! The point is Oot was not the game that made people in JP go out and buy a 3DS.IronBass
The 3DS got a sales bump.

Yeah 9k more than the PSP, impressive !
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"]A game on a system with a userbase of 17 million outsells a game on a system with a userbase of 1 million? Who would have thought? :shock:digimonkey12
It is great is it not ;-) 3DS will probably not sell as many.

Yeah, you're right. It won't sell 17 million... It'll sell 34 million.
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Wow, Ocarina of Time debuted at #2 and you call that a failure? And that too, by a margin of just two thousand units? Are you really that desperate to make it look bad? Also the PSP has a userbase of 17 million in Japan, as opposed to the 3DS' 1 million. If anything, this should reflect VERY positively on how well OOT3D is doing.
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Yeah 9k more than the PSP, impressive !digimonkey12
I wouldn't call it impressive, but considering how the PSP has been dominating in Japan the past 15 months, it definitely has some merit.
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I didn't think Zelda was ever popular in Japan? Thought it was more of a western series. And even there the sales weren't alike Mario titles or so. Don't know why though. Maybe the protagonist isn't manly enough for the gamers.

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LOL Zelda just isn't relevant anymore.RR360DD

riigght...you keep smoking your lem pipe.

Zelda influences fable heavily sometimes tbh but it falls flat by being uninspired.Zelda still innovates and shows how it should be done and tbh this is a prime example of HOW a remake should be handled.

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Yeah, you're right. It won't sell 17 million... It'll sell 34 million. charizard1605
Not likely but Vita probably will ;-)

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I didn't think Zelda was ever popular in Japan? Thought it was more of a western series. And even there the sales weren't alike Mario titles or so. Don't know why though. Maybe the protagonist isn't manly enough for the gamers.

KungfuKitten

I'd have to imagine that it's fairy popular over there considering how Tingle is popular.

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[QUOTE="charizard1605"] Yeah, you're right. It won't sell 17 million... It'll sell 34 million. digimonkey12

Not likely but Vita probably will ;-)

*looks at sales numbers for PSP* *looks at sales numbers for DS* Yeah, you're probably right :lol:
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#22 digimonkey12
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[QUOTE="digimonkey12"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"] Yeah, you're right. It won't sell 17 million... It'll sell 34 million. charizard1605

Not likely but Vita probably will ;-)

*looks at sales numbers for PSP* *looks at sales numbers for DS* Yeah, you're probably right :lol:

And yet the PSP is failing Nintendos next gen handheld :-P
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[QUOTE="digimonkey12"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"] Yeah, you're right. It won't sell 17 million... It'll sell 34 million. charizard1605

Not likely but Vita probably will ;-)

*looks at sales numbers for PSP* *looks at sales numbers for DS* Yeah, you're probably right :lol:

You can't always go by what happened in the past. There's a very high chance that the Vita might outsell the 3DS (but I don't want that to happen, to be honest :P).
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LOL Zelda just isn't relevant anymore.RR360DD
Man,you're so right :roll:,love your facts.
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#25 110million
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The concept of userbase is really important here. If a game were to sell 200k units to a userbase of 1 million, its more impressive than selling 200k to a userbase of 10 million.
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well they already played it 15 years ago... they're not in a hurry to play it on a smaller screen.

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well they already played it 15 years ago... they're not in a hurry to play it on a smaller screen.

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And that's why it debuted on #2, sold just 2,000 units less than the #1 game, sold over 160,000 units, gave the 3DS a huge sale spike... right?
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[QUOTE="110million"]The concept of userbase is really important here. If a game were to sell 200k units to a userbase of 1 million, its more impressive than selling 200k to a userbase of 10 million.

Meh ! I still stand by the fact that at least in JP OoT is not a system seller.
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#29 SaltyMeatballs
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Nah, sorry. I only see positive news for the 3DS with this one. Good game releases, HW sales increase, game sells a lot.
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[QUOTE="digimonkey12"][QUOTE="110million"]The concept of userbase is really important here. If a game were to sell 200k units to a userbase of 1 million, its more impressive than selling 200k to a userbase of 10 million.

Meh ! I still stand by the fact that at least in JP OoT is not a system seller.

It is. It resulted in a huge sales spike for the system, and it's debuted at #2, selling over 160,000 units in its first week. And that's for a console that was JUST released and only has a userbase of 1 million. If anything, this reflects SPECTACULARLY on the game's success.
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"huge sales spike" LOL;-) that is a good one. But I guess that a. new system that is on par with the PSP selling 9k more is pretty impressive.
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"huge sales spike" LOL;-) that is a good one. But I guess that a. new system that is on par with the PSP selling 9k more is pretty impressive.digimonkey12
Don't bother, they'll spin it in any way possible to put a favorable light on the 3DS.
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"huge sales spike" LOL;-) that is a good one. But I guess that a. new system that is on par with the PSP selling 9k more is pretty impressive.digimonkey12
Well, you obviously don't follow gaming news. :) http://brutalgamer.com/2011/06/22/zelda-pushes-3ds-back-to-the-top-in-japan/ Have a look at that link before you go on rambling like that again.
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[QUOTE="digimonkey12"]"huge sales spike" LOL;-) that is a good one. But I guess that a. new system that is on par with the PSP selling 9k more is pretty impressive.Heil68
Don't bother, they'll spin it in any way possible to put a favorable light on the 3DS.

You too should see the link in my previous post.
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[QUOTE="digimonkey12"]"huge sales spike" LOL;-) that is a good one. But I guess that a. new system that is on par with the PSP selling 9k more is pretty impressive.Heil68
Don't bother, they'll spin it in any way possible to put a favorable light on the 3DS.

70% sales spike is a lot. No one is spinning anything.
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[QUOTE="digimonkey12"]"huge sales spike" LOL;-) that is a good one. But I guess that a. new system that is on par with the PSP selling 9k more is pretty impressive.khoofia_pika
Well, you obviously don't follow gaming news. :) http://brutalgamer.com/2011/06/22/zelda-pushes-3ds-back-to-the-top-in-japan/ Have a look at that link before you go on rambling like that again.

LOL :-D. Dont tell me I dont follow gaming new, I do nothing but ! LOL:-D. at back to the top. Black Rock Shooter and Type-0 will destroy 3DS system and game saled. PS @ heil68 but this is fun:-P
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[QUOTE="Heil68"][QUOTE="digimonkey12"]"huge sales spike" LOL;-) that is a good one. But I guess that a. new system that is on par with the PSP selling 9k more is pretty impressive.khoofia_pika
Don't bother, they'll spin it in any way possible to put a favorable light on the 3DS.

You too should see the link in my previous post.

I already knew that: 1. 3DS: 40,649 (24,649) 2. PSP: 31,741 (26,681) I guess if you think that is an awesome sales spike nothing I say will convince you otherwise or maybe Zelda just doesn't pack the punch like it used to. Of course we're talking about a 13 year old port, so maybe that is a big increase for such an old game?
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[QUOTE="khoofia_pika"][QUOTE="digimonkey12"]"huge sales spike" LOL;-) that is a good one. But I guess that a. new system that is on par with the PSP selling 9k more is pretty impressive.digimonkey12
Well, you obviously don't follow gaming news. :) http://brutalgamer.com/2011/06/22/zelda-pushes-3ds-back-to-the-top-in-japan/ Have a look at that link before you go on rambling like that again.

LOL :-D. Dont tell me I dont follow gaming new, I do nothing but ! LOL:-D. at back to the top. Black Rock Shooter and Type-0 will destroy 3DS system and game saled. PS @ heil68 but this is fun:-P

Did you even see the link? :? Stop creating vapour arguments. What I'm saying is FACT, backed by stats and numbers.
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[QUOTE="Heil68"][QUOTE="khoofia_pika"][QUOTE="Heil68"] Don't bother, they'll spin it in any way possible to put a favorable light on the 3DS.

You too should see the link in my previous post.

I already knew that: 1. 3DS: 40,649 (24,649) 2. PSP: 31,741 (26,681) I guess if you think that is an awesome sales spike nothing I say will convince you otherwise or maybe Zelda just doesn't pack the punch like it used to. Of course we're talking about a 13 year old port, so maybe that is a big increase for such an old game?

What?! It gave the system an 70% sales spike all over the world, and a 16,000 unit week-on-week spike in Japan. That's not packing a punch? Are you seriously that blind a fanboy? And it doesn't matter if the game is a remake (REMAKE, NOT PORT) of a 13 year old (very awesome) game. It's awesome, that's what matters, remake or no.
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i dont understand what your tryna prove....the psp has 70 sumthin million...the 3ds has 4

the psp userbase is bigger this is obvious

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[QUOTE="khoofia_pika"][QUOTE="Heil68"] Don't bother, they'll spin it in any way possible to put a favorable light on the 3DS. Heil68
You too should see the link in my previous post.

I already knew that: 1. 3DS: 40,649 (24,649) 2. PSP: 31,741 (26,681) I guess if you think that is an awesome sales spike nothing I say will convince you otherwise or maybe Zelda just doesn't pack the punch like it used to. Of course we're talking about a 13 year old port, so maybe that is a big increase for such an old game?

70% sales spike isn't huge? just wow.... :lol:

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Heh ? I read you link and it proves nothing but that Oot is not a system seller.
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[QUOTE="khoofia_pika"][QUOTE="Heil68"] Don't bother, they'll spin it in any way possible to put a favorable light on the 3DS. Heil68
You too should see the link in my previous post.

I already knew that: 1. 3DS: 40,649 (24,649) 2. PSP: 31,741 (26,681) I guess if you think that is an awesome sales spike nothing I say will convince you otherwise or maybe Zelda just doesn't pack the punch like it used to. Of course we're talking about a 13 year old port, so maybe that is a big increase for such an old game?

Now you're spinning it. Or are you trying to tell me 70% sales spike is not "huge"?

And yes, thanks for mentioning it's a 13 year old port, that only makes it better for Nintendo; when the original Mario/Pokemon titles come then we will see an even bigger sales spike.

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Its level5 guys,their games are average but japanese people love them.
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[QUOTE="khoofia_pika"][QUOTE="Heil68"][QUOTE="khoofia_pika"] You too should see the link in my previous post.

I already knew that: 1. 3DS: 40,649 (24,649) 2. PSP: 31,741 (26,681) I guess if you think that is an awesome sales spike nothing I say will convince you otherwise or maybe Zelda just doesn't pack the punch like it used to. Of course we're talking about a 13 year old port, so maybe that is a big increase for such an old game?

What?! It gave the system an 70% sales spike all over the world, and a 16,000 unit week-on-week spike in Japan. That's not packing a punch? Are you seriously that blind a fanboy? And it doesn't matter if the game is a remake (REMAKE, NOT PORT) of a 13 year old (very awesome) game. It's awesome, that's what matters, remake or no.

You act like that 70% is a huge number, which it isn't when talking about such small numbers to begin with. I guess when you're starved for games, the masses will buy it- that is the lesson learned with this port. I'm betting SS will have a bigger increase for the Wii's hardware then this old dog. Maybe you should take your fanboy goggles off.
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LOL Zelda just isn't relevant anymore.RR360DD
Maybe on Mars, but we're on Earth here, remember?
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Did the 3DS have to catch the PSP last week because of OoT or something? And I liked the "Zelda isn't relevant anymore" by the Halo guy. The boards are funny this morning!
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[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"][QUOTE="Heil68"][QUOTE="khoofia_pika"] You too should see the link in my previous post.

I already knew that: 1. 3DS: 40,649 (24,649) 2. PSP: 31,741 (26,681) I guess if you think that is an awesome sales spike nothing I say will convince you otherwise or maybe Zelda just doesn't pack the punch like it used to. Of course we're talking about a 13 year old port, so maybe that is a big increase for such an old game?

Now you're spinning it. Or are you trying to tell me 70% sales spike is not "huge"? And yes, 13 year old port only makes it better for Nintendo. When the original Mario/Pokemon titles come then we will see an even bigger sales spike.

No it is not Huge, it is a joke. Oot is not a system seller ! Let me give a true example of a system seller. Monster Hunter 3rd pushed 325.000 PSP's in one week.
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#49 SaltyMeatballs
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[QUOTE="khoofia_pika"][QUOTE="Heil68"] I already knew that: 1. 3DS: 40,649 (24,649) 2. PSP: 31,741 (26,681) I guess if you think that is an awesome sales spike nothing I say will convince you otherwise or maybe Zelda just doesn't pack the punch like it used to. Of course we're talking about a 13 year old port, so maybe that is a big increase for such an old game? Heil68
What?! It gave the system an 70% sales spike all over the world, and a 16,000 unit week-on-week spike in Japan. That's not packing a punch? Are you seriously that blind a fanboy? And it doesn't matter if the game is a remake (REMAKE, NOT PORT) of a 13 year old (very awesome) game. It's awesome, that's what matters, remake or no.

You act like that 70% is a huge number, which it isn't when talking about such small numbers to begin with. I guess when you're starved for games, the masses will buy it- that is the lesson learned with this port. I'm betting SS will have a bigger increase for the Wii's hardware then this old dog. Maybe you should take your fanboy goggles off.

Maybe 70% wouldn't be big spike... if 3DS sales weren't stuck in low 20k even lower some weeks, and it wasn't continually getting outsold my PSP. But no, the lowish sales were consistent, they didn't fluctuate.

Then OOT comes, 40k. Didn't come out of nowhere, that my friend is a sales spike, and a big one.

Then again, you would try to spin this story to be as pessimistic as possible.

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#50 SaltyMeatballs
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[QUOTE="digimonkey12"][QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"][QUOTE="Heil68"] I already knew that: 1. 3DS: 40,649 (24,649) 2. PSP: 31,741 (26,681) I guess if you think that is an awesome sales spike nothing I say will convince you otherwise or maybe Zelda just doesn't pack the punch like it used to. Of course we're talking about a 13 year old port, so maybe that is a big increase for such an old game?

Now you're spinning it. Or are you trying to tell me 70% sales spike is not "huge"? And yes, 13 year old port only makes it better for Nintendo. When the original Mario/Pokemon titles come then we will see an even bigger sales spike.

No it is not Huge, it is a joke. Oot is not a system seller ! Let me give a true example of a system seller. Monster Hunter 3rd pushed 325.000 PSP's in one week.

OOT isn't a big system seller I'm not arguing that, but it pushed more systems than previous weeks, up 70% from the week before. That MH3rd is a good example, but no one was expecting that for OOT. Arguing that OOT didn't sell systems though is ignoring the facts.