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#51 Bread_or_Decide
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Marginal boost to 3DS sales...and a flop at making no. 1. Portarina of Flop not living up to it's hype. Ports don't sell systems....period.
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#52 haziqonfire
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It came in second.

How is that a failed launch :?

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#53 digimonkey12
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You are the one spinning. 20k more is a joke.
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#54 Bread_or_Decide
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[QUOTE="RR360DD"]LOL Zelda just isn't relevant anymore.[/QUOTE
bu bu bu OoT 3D is a system seller!!!! :cry: Heil68
And it's in THREE D! COME ON! THREE D!
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#55 Bread_or_Decide
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It came in second.

How is that a failed launch :?

Haziqonfire
With the kind of hype this game gets and since there is nothing else on the 3DS to play...yeah its a failure. Where's that guy with the "What will save the 3DS" chalk board in his sig?
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#56 Heil68
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[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"][QUOTE="digimonkey12"][QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"] Now you're spinning it. Or are you trying to tell me 70% sales spike is not "huge"? And yes, 13 year old port only makes it better for Nintendo. When the original Mario/Pokemon titles come then we will see an even bigger sales spike.

No it is not Huge, it is a joke. Oot is not a system seller ! Let me give a true example of a system seller. Monster Hunter 3rd pushed 325.000 PSP's in one week.

OOT isn't a big system seller...

that's what we're saying and thanks for agreeing with us. A new Zelda game would be a much better seller than a 13 year old port imo. What these "good" sales do is give Nintendo no reason to make a new Zelda game when the ports actually sell. I guess I'm silly wanting a new game instead of a game that's readily available on multiple systems.
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#57 digimonkey12
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With the 3DS not having any decent games I concider OoT coming in second as huge flop.
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#58 rasengan2552
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Im really starting to appreciate Lems A LOT more now, they're not as bad as I thought when compared to Nintendo fanboys.

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#59 deactivated-583e460ca986b
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[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]

It came in second.

How is that a failed launch :?

Bread_or_Decide
With the kind of hype this game gets and since there is nothing else on the 3DS to play...yeah its a failure. Where's that guy with the "What will save the 3DS" chalk board in his sig?

Haters might want to be careful! A year from now when the usual "Nintendo handheld is kicking the competitions butt"stuff is going on you guys are going to be eating your words. Look out! You might make a few sigs because of it.
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With the kind of hype this game gets and since there is nothing else on the 3DS to play...yeah its a failure. Where's that guy with the "What will save the 3DS" chalk board in his sig? Bread_or_Decide

It's not a fail :?.

Like others have mentioned - one's userbase is around 17 million and the other is a million. Even looking at Ocarina of Time 3D in that regard, the numbers are pretty impressive considering the install base. That's roughly 15% of the audience that owns Ocarina of Time on the 3DS versus less than one percent of the audience that owns a PSP bought that game.

I can spin things negatively too ... lol.

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#61 madsnakehhh
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Wow, haters are trying way too hard :lol:

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#62 Heil68
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[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"][QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]

It came in second.

How is that a failed launch :?

GoldenElementXL
With the kind of hype this game gets and since there is nothing else on the 3DS to play...yeah its a failure. Where's that guy with the "What will save the 3DS" chalk board in his sig?

Haters might want to be careful! A year from now when the usual "Nintendo handheld is kicking the competitions butt"stuff is going on you guys are going to be eating your words. Look out! You might make a few sigs because of it.

Naw, least we'll have some new proper games out for the system that are actually good and not ports. Hell we might even have a 2nd revision and price cut and that might be just enough to make me buy it, because it's completely worthless to me right now.
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#63 deactivated-583e460ca986b
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With the 3DS not having any decent games I concider OoT coming in second as huge flop.digimonkey12
Looking at your sig, your post says exactly what I would think it would. Don't get too ahead of your self. Lets see if PS Vita's Uncharted ever cracks the top spot. Will that make it a failure?
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#64 Heil68
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[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]Marginal boost to 3DS sales...and a flop at making no. 1. Portarina of Flop not living up to it's hype. Ports don't sell systems....period.

We're the fanboys bread, be careful, they may sig a quote from us!!! :o Still scratching my head how that works since I have owned every Nintedno console and currently a Wii and a DS lite. I guess hardware is more important than software. *shrug*
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#65 ZIVX
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Nintendo created an artificial sortage for Zelda Ocarina of Time to create hype. This article said that Nintendo shipped around 150,000 units to the country and this article said that it sold out in the entirety of Japan

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#66 digimonkey12
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[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"][QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]

It came in second.

How is that a failed launch :?

GoldenElementXL

With the kind of hype this game gets and since there is nothing else on the 3DS to play...yeah its a failure. Where's that guy with the "What will save the 3DS" chalk board in his sig?

Haters might want to be careful! A year from now when the usual "Nintendo handheld is kicking the competitions butt"stuff is going on you guys are going to be eating your words. Look out! You might make a few sigs because of it.

Yeah but it will be with sme ol' same ol' mario/pokemon games cause that is all nintendo got to make the 3DS a system seller.

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#67 Kashiwaba
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1- Difference in user base

2- Its a remake

3- Danball Senki is LEVEL-5 game so no its a strong competitor

4- Zelda is not as big as you think in Japan its not at FF, DQ, MH, Mario, Pokemon level not even at MGS or GT level the best Zelda debut in Japan was around 400k thats around Yakuza Level of success.

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http://www.gamespot.com/ds/puzzle/pokemontypingds/news/6321036/big-in-japan-june-13-19-zelda-3d

I love facts :lol:

1. Danball Senki / Level 5 / PSP / 166,187 - new -
2. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D / Nintendo / 3DS / 164,110 - new -

And it seems that Ocarina 3D was not the game that made people ( at least in JP ) going nuts for the 3DS. I mean 9K more than the PSP this week is not that impressive !

3DS – 40,649
PSP – 31,741.

And withBlack Rock Shooter- ブラック★ロックシューターBurakku Rokku Shūtā - and Final Fantasy Type-0- ファイナルファンタジー 零式Fainaru Fantajī Reishiki - soon released In JP, the PSP will surge pass the 3DS and the gain the No.1 spot again as it has been for the past 18 months.



digimonkey12

To defend Zelda 3DS it came out on the 16th in Japan. And if you don't believe me http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oot_3DS just check the date. So didn't even have a full week for release so it wouldn't be fair to bash the game.

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[QUOTE="GoldenElementXL"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"] With the kind of hype this game gets and since there is nothing else on the 3DS to play...yeah its a failure. Where's that guy with the "What will save the 3DS" chalk board in his sig? digimonkey12

Haters might want to be careful! A year from now when the usual "Nintendo handheld is kicking the competitions butt"stuff is going on you guys are going to be eating your words. Look out! You might make a few sigs because of it.

Yeah but it will be with sme ol' same ol' mario/pokemon games cause that is all nintendo got to make the 3DS a system seller.

yeah as opposite to same ol' same ol' god of war and MGS:roll:

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[QUOTE="digimonkey12"]

[QUOTE="GoldenElementXL"] Haters might want to be careful! A year from now when the usual "Nintendo handheld is kicking the competitions butt"stuff is going on you guys are going to be eating your words. Look out! You might make a few sigs because of it. Half-Way

Yeah but it will be with sme ol' same ol' mario/pokemon games cause that is all nintendo got to make the 3DS a system seller.

yeah as opposite to same ol' same ol' god of war and MGS:roll:

Level 5 will take care of Japan for the Vita I'm guessing?
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#71 digimonkey12
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[QUOTE="digimonkey12"]With the 3DS not having any decent games I concider OoT coming in second as huge flop.GoldenElementXL
Looking at your sig, your post says exactly what I would think it would. Don't get too ahead of your self. Lets see if PS Vita's Uncharted ever cracks the top spot. Will that make it a failure?

Heh ? Of couse my sig is my flag ! And of couse uncharted will be a flop if it does crack the top 2, unless a mario game launches with 400.000 and uncharted comes 2nd with 380.000 ;-)
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[QUOTE="digimonkey12"]

[QUOTE="GoldenElementXL"] Haters might want to be careful! A year from now when the usual "Nintendo handheld is kicking the competitions butt"stuff is going on you guys are going to be eating your words. Look out! You might make a few sigs because of it. Half-Way

Yeah but it will be with sme ol' same ol' mario/pokemon games cause that is all nintendo got to make the 3DS a system seller.

yeah as opposite to same ol' same ol' god of war and MGS:roll:

God Of War has only had 3 iterations, MGS series is spread out among a handful of consoles.
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[QUOTE="digimonkey12"]

http://www.gamespot.com/ds/puzzle/pokemontypingds/news/6321036/big-in-japan-june-13-19-zelda-3d

I love facts :lol:

1. Danball Senki / Level 5 / PSP / 166,187 - new -
2. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D / Nintendo / 3DS / 164,110 - new -

And it seems that Ocarina 3D was not the game that made people ( at least in JP ) going nuts for the 3DS. I mean 9K more than the PSP this week is not that impressive !

3DS – 40,649
PSP – 31,741.

Lol, comparing these 2 games is absolutely pointless. Seeing as that the 3DS has only been on the market for a few months and therefore doesn't have a large userbase yet. The PSP has been out for years now and therefore more users that are able to buy it's games.

The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D coming in second with only 2,000 less sales thanDanball Senki wich is out on a platform with maybe 10 times more users is pretty impressive to me.

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#74 Half-Way
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[QUOTE="Half-Way"]

[QUOTE="digimonkey12"] Yeah but it will be with sme ol' same ol' mario/pokemon games cause that is all nintendo got to make the 3DS a system seller.

rasengan2552

yeah as opposite to same ol' same ol' god of war and MGS:roll:

God Of War has only had 3 iterations, MGS series is spread out among a handful of consoles.

You dont even know how many games there are in the GOW series? :? there are more then 3

And what does MGS being spread out among a handful of consoles have to do with anything? I stated they are same ol' same ol'. Is this true or false?

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#75 om28v
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Nintendo created an artificial sortage for Zelda Ocarina of Time to create hype. This article said that Nintendo shipped around 150,000 units to the country and this article said that it sold out in the entirety of Japan

ZIVX



You should repost this 5 times in a row to get everybody's attention so that this thread can be over and done with =P

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#76 digimonkey12
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>Lol, comparing these 2 games is absolutely pointless. Seeing as that the 3DS has only been on the market for a few months and therefore doesn't have a large userbase yet. The PSP has been out for years now and therefore more users that are able to buy it's games.

The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D coming in second with only 2,000 less sales thanDanball Senki wich is out on a platform with maybe 10 times more users is pretty impressive to me.

erwingameon

Read the comments before you post. The point is OoT is not a system seller !

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[QUOTE="rasengan2552"][QUOTE="Half-Way"]

yeah as opposite to same ol' same ol' god of war and MGS:roll:

Half-Way

God Of War has only had 3 iterations, MGS series is spread out among a handful of consoles.

You dont even know how many games there are in the GOW series? :? there are more then 3

And what does MGS being spread out among a handful of consoles have to do with anything? I stated they are same ol' same ol'. Is this true or false?

ok GoS and CoO count too I guess lol, I'll give you those spinoffs.

MGS being the same ol same ol is false, not even in the same realm of repetitiveness of Pokemon or Mario.

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Marginal boost to 3DS sales...and a flop at making no. 1. Portarina of Flop not living up to it's hype. Ports don't sell systems....period. Bread_or_Decide

Another great line of wisdom from the poster who brought you "Video games do not sell out" well done sir. I may begin to record these in a journal here pretty soon.

Haters, take Link's advice you know and STOP

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[QUOTE="IPWNDU2"]Haters, take Link's advice you know and STOP

I think Nintendo should take his advice too...Stop blowing and release a new Zelda game instead of ports.
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[QUOTE="Heil68"][QUOTE="IPWNDU2"]Haters, take Link's advice you know and STOP

I think Nintendo should take his advice too...Stop blowing and release a new Zelda game instead of ports.

Skyward Sword is for you ;) :P
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Read the comments before you post. The point is OoT is not a system seller !

digimonkey12

Based off of a 16 day sales report ...makes sense.

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#82 enterawesome
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Zelda isn't popular at all in Japan. Just sayin'.
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[QUOTE="Half-Way"]

[QUOTE="rasengan2552"] God Of War has only had 3 iterations, MGS series is spread out among a handful of consoles.rasengan2552

You dont even know how many games there are in the GOW series? :? there are more then 3

And what does MGS being spread out among a handful of consoles have to do with anything? I stated they are same ol' same ol'. Is this true or false?

ok GoS and CoO count too I guess lol, I'll give you those spinoffs.

MGS being the same ol same ol is false, not even in the same realm of repetitiveness of Pokemon or Mario.

yeah right.

You either haven't played many mario games or MGS games.

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Read the comments before you post. The point is OoT is not a system seller !

digimonkey12

It caused a sales spike, didn't it? What more does it have to do to warrant being labelled as a system seller?

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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="Heil68"][QUOTE="IPWNDU2"]Haters, take Link's advice you know and STOP

I think Nintendo should take his advice too...Stop blowing and release a new Zelda game instead of ports.

Skyward Sword is for you ;) :P

YES! I'm replaying TP to get ready for it, just beat Forest Temple, great dungeon. I'm betting we will see a bigger jump in Wii's sales because of SS then OoT is giving the 3DS.
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Zelda isn't popular at all in Japan. Just sayin'.enterawesome
Wish America would wise up and take their stance on this stale franchise.
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#87 digimonkey12
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[QUOTE="digimonkey12"]Read the comments before you post. The point is OoT is not a system seller !

Haziqonfire

Based off of a 16 day sales report ...makes sense.

Compared to a true system seller like MH3rd pushing 325.000 PSP's in a week, yeah that makes perfect sense.
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Wish America would wise up and take their stance on this stale franchise. Bread_or_Decide

Huh?

The last two DS games were refreshing and Skyward Swords seems to have addressed most of the issues regarding the Zelda series.

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[QUOTE="digimonkey12"] Compared to a true system seller like MH3rd pushing 325.000 PSP's in a week, yeah that makes perfect sense.

Or Pokemon selling DS. Yeah, I agree. [QUOTE="Heil68"] YES! I'm replaying TP to get ready for it, just beat Forest Temple, great dungeon. I'm betting we will see a bigger jump in Wii's sales because of SS then OoT is giving the 3DS.

I'm playing through Wind Waker and Twilight Princess simultaneously in preparation :D And yeah, duh we will. Skyward Sword is an all new entry, Ocarina is, when all is said and done, just a remake.
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[QUOTE="Heil68"][QUOTE="khoofia_pika"] You too should see the link in my previous post.alfredooo

I already knew that: 1. 3DS: 40,649 (24,649) 2. PSP: 31,741 (26,681) I guess if you think that is an awesome sales spike nothing I say will convince you otherwise or maybe Zelda just doesn't pack the punch like it used to. Of course we're talking about a 13 year old port, so maybe that is a big increase for such an old game?

70% sales spike isn't huge? just wow.... :lol:

if there's anyone putting a spin on this piece of news it's the usual 3ds haters :lol:
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#91 digimonkey12
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[QUOTE="digimonkey12"] Compared to a true system seller like MH3rd pushing 325.000 PSP's in a week, yeah that makes perfect sense.charizard1605
Or Pokemon selling DS. Yeah, I agree.

See that was not as hard, was it now ! :-P anyway I am not a hater just a gamer and I might even get a 3DS for an Atlus game. But the 3DS has to get much cheaper.:-P

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A. The PSP has a larger userbase, being on the market for how many years? B. Being a remake pretty much dismisses it from killer app status. its still a great game, just nothing to buy a 3DS for
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[QUOTE="Heil68"][QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"][QUOTE="digimonkey12"] No it is not Huge, it is a joke. Oot is not a system seller ! Let me give a true example of a system seller. Monster Hunter 3rd pushed 325.000 PSP's in one week.

OOT isn't a big system seller...

that's what we're saying and thanks for agreeing with us. A new Zelda game would be a much better seller than a 13 year old port imo. What these "good" sales do is give Nintendo no reason to make a new Zelda game when the ports actually sell. I guess I'm silly wanting a new game instead of a game that's readily available on multiple systems.

I do agree with that part, but don't just reply to one sentence that suits you. Don't just quote out of context to my arguments please.
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[QUOTE="Heil68"][QUOTE="khoofia_pika"][QUOTE="Heil68"] I already knew that: 1. 3DS: 40,649 (24,649) 2. PSP: 31,741 (26,681) I guess if you think that is an awesome sales spike nothing I say will convince you otherwise or maybe Zelda just doesn't pack the punch like it used to. Of course we're talking about a 13 year old port, so maybe that is a big increase for such an old game?

What?! It gave the system an 70% sales spike all over the world, and a 16,000 unit week-on-week spike in Japan. That's not packing a punch? Are you seriously that blind a fanboy? And it doesn't matter if the game is a remake (REMAKE, NOT PORT) of a 13 year old (very awesome) game. It's awesome, that's what matters, remake or no.

You act like that 70% is a huge number, which it isn't when talking about such small numbers to begin with. I guess when you're starved for games, the masses will buy it- that is the lesson learned with this port. I'm betting SS will have a bigger increase for the Wii's hardware then this old dog. Maybe you should take your fanboy goggles off.

Of course 70% is a huge number, no matter what the original number was It did not sell 70% more than it's lifetime sales, it sold 70% more than what it sold before OOT was released. 70% sales spike is the same for all systems- systems that are new, systems that are old. They have no bearing on the lifetime sales. They have bearing on the weekly/monthly sales. And the system was two months old, of course you wouldn't have a lot of good game on it. Did you seriously expect it to have a PS2 level library from the moment it was released? Systems develop libraries gradually. And OOT3D sold well because it was justg an awesome game, period. Zelda games sell well because they're awesome, not because people are "starved for good games." Good games sell just because they're good games. And is that what you will say when every new major release on the 3DS sells well? You'd better start working on a new ridiculous excuse, buddy. And I don't know what YOU'VE been drinking, but I'm no fanboy, thank you very much. I base my arguments on facts, and acknowledge what is not somebody's opinion, but pure FACTS.
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#96 Dibdibdobdobo
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LOL Zelda just isn't relevant anymore.RR360DD
Halo was never relevent just like your opinions.
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#97 drinkerofjuice
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That's pretty good, considering what it's up against in terms of userbase and consumer need.
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[QUOTE="enterawesome"]Zelda isn't popular at all in Japan. Just sayin'.Bread_or_Decide
Wish America would wise up and take their stance on this stale franchise.

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The game got second place is sales...and considering the first was a Level 5 PSP game, a platform with an install base 17x that of the 3DS, that is an accomplishment.

There was also a 70% increase in hardware sales. Jesus OOT is a fail:roll:

The game sold well and was a system seller no matter how you look at it :)

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#100 Androvinus
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Wow final fantasy type o looks amazing. It looks like crysis core with a decent battle system. The psp has so many good japanese titles. Its no wonder it sells so well.