Ocarina of Time 3D 8.5 on GS

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="StealthMonkey4"]

It's the same exact game of course it's good, but it's blocky visuals and archaic gameplay should make it a 7.0 at highest. I don't see how people are excited over something they could've played 12 years ago and can play on the GCN or N64.

StealthMonkey4

I have, it does hold up well, but not anything above a 7.0 well. If this were not a Zelda game and it weren't for OoT nostalgia, it would be a 7.0 at best. Reviewers are letting nostalgia affect their score and are reviewing it as a remake not as a game released today, which is how it should be reviewed.

Why don't you prove this?

[QUOTE="Indie_Hitman"]8.5? Eight point five??? Are gamespot mad? Don't they relaise just what game they are reviewing? Miyamoto would be turning in his grave, were he dead. The puzzles, along with their dungeons are classics, and the combat system is a precious relic. The music is reminiscant, and the characters just as interesting as 13 years ago. This game should have gotten no ore than 7.0. I love the game. I really do. Nostalgia plays a mjor role. But whenever i play, I do always feel as though soemthings empty. It's just too dated. It is amazing, perfect for its time - but its time to move on. It shouldnt be getting as high scores as it has. Cheesehead9099

i can't believe im saying this, but thank u for not overhyping the game GS.

[QUOTE="Indie_Hitman"]8.5? Eight point five??? Are gamespot mad? Don't they relaise just what game they are reviewing? Miyamoto would be turning in his grave, were he dead. The puzzles, along with their dungeons are classics, and the combat system is a precious relic. The music is reminiscant, and the characters just as interesting as 13 years ago. This game should have gotten no ore than 7.0. I love the game. I really do. Nostalgia plays a mjor role. But whenever i play, I do always feel as though soemthings empty. It's just too dated. It is amazing, perfect for its time - but its time to move on. It shouldnt be getting as high scores as it has. GreySeal9

Can you actually explain what's "too dated" about it or is that just a buzzword?

The graphics, the dialogue, the gameplay.

I liked the review, it's well written.

I'm glad that the motion controls are actually regarded as a benefit and don't come off overly gimmicky. Glad to also see that Chris Watters believes that Ocarina of Time 3D is the definitive (or best) way to play the game.

Though, would've liked to see any mention of the 3D effect iself. Odd that it is missing from the review.

A flop, just like the 3DS. Nintendo sure are doing everything wrong lately.RR360DD

Yet the game still has 94% on Gamerankings and 8.5 is still a "great" score.

So how the hell does this prove that "Nintendo is doing everything wrong." :?

Flopspot strikes again.

Should be an interesting thread.

[QUOTE="StealthMonkey4"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] Someone hasn't played OoT recently. The gameplay holds up extremely well.GreySeal9

I have, it does hold up well, but not anything above a 7.0 well. If this were not a Zelda game and it weren't for OoT nostalgia, it would be a 7.0 at best. Reviewers are letting nostalgia affect their score and are reviewing it as a remake not as a game released today, which is how it should be reviewed.

Why don't you prove this?

There's no way you can prove it either way, though it's pretty obvious it is the case.

I guess some gamers just can't fathom why a 13 year old game can hold up in this day and age where games have become simplistic, and dumbed down for teh masses. OoT trounces all over them. Lol Fable III. Same reason why FF7 and Chrono Trigger trounce over every JRPG this gen. They're timeless classics that will never be forgotten.

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="dercoo"]

8.5ed

Really though, I've not cared for GS reviews since R&C TOD's 7.5:P

dercoo

That one angered me too

And even as a non-Halo fan I found the Halo wars review to be bull *****

GS makes more BS reviews then the other sites IMO, but well, their forums are actually alive.

infamous 2 review pissed me off probably the most...completely inconsistent

[QUOTE="Ravensmash"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"] Someone hasn't played OoT recently. The gameplay holds up extremely well.StealthMonkey4

I honestly can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not.:?

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="Indie_Hitman"]8.5? Eight point five??? Are gamespot mad? Don't they relaise just what game they are reviewing? Miyamoto would be turning in his grave, were he dead. The puzzles, along with their dungeons are classics, and the combat system is a precious relic. The music is reminiscant, and the characters just as interesting as 13 years ago. This game should have gotten no ore than 7.0. I love the game. I really do. Nostalgia plays a mjor role. But whenever i play, I do always feel as though soemthings empty. It's just too dated. It is amazing, perfect for its time - but its time to move on. It shouldnt be getting as high scores as it has. StealthMonkey4

Can you actually explain what's "too dated" about it or is that just a buzzword?

The graphics, the dialogue, the gameplay.

What about the gameplay is too dated?

I mean, really if you're not going to explain yourself, there was no reason to reply at all.

Flopspot strikes again.

Should be an interesting thread.

BigBoss154

[QUOTE="Cheesehead9099"]

LOL the butthurt has already begun. I agree with the second post. 20 Year old games should not be graded as new games. A remake should never score over 9.0, no matter how good the game is because it's the SAME game.

And @ the person who lol'd @ GS being 1 point lower than the critic average, what's wrong with that? THey scored infamous 2 one point lower, why not OoT? Oh wait, I forgot it's Zelda so it has to be perfect :roll:

funsohng

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="StealthMonkey4"]

It's the same exact game of course it's good, but it's blocky visuals and archaic gameplay should make it a 7.0 at highest. I don't see how people are excited over something they could've played 12 years ago and can play on the GCN or N64.

Indie_Hitman

I cant wait till they put the video review up on youtube they are gonna be bashed BAD. And deservingly so this review is a joke.

[QUOTE="Ravensmash"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"] Someone hasn't played OoT recently. The gameplay holds up extremely well.StealthMonkey4

I honestly can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not.:?

I guess some gamers just can't fathom why a 13 year old game can hold up in this day and age where games have become simplistic, and dumbed down for teh masses. OoT trounces all over them.

Crossel777

Honestly people say we are upset but its justifable look at the cons. The cons are completly hypocritical. Their con is something that happens in many games. MANY MANY GAMES DO NOT HAVE HARD MODE UNLOCKED at the start. The fact that they did this as a con shows they are just trying now to do anything they can to knock the score down.

Sometimes I do wonder despite being on this site why I even bother looking at a gamespot review.

fueled-system

I can jump into Veteran in Call of Duty, Legendary in Halo: Reach and Halo 3, set Oblivion to 100 difficulty, Insane difficulty in Starcraft 2. It's not many, many games that do not have hard mode unlocked at the start but only a few.

[QUOTE="Indie_Hitman"]8.5? Eight point five??? Are gamespot mad? Don't they relaise just what game they are reviewing? Miyamoto would be turning in his grave, were he dead. The puzzles, along with their dungeons are classics, and the combat system is a precious relic. The music is reminiscant, and the characters just as interesting as 13 years ago. This game should have gotten no ore than 7.0. I love the game. I really do. Nostalgia plays a mjor role. But whenever i play, I do always feel as though soemthings empty. It's just too dated. It is amazing, perfect for its time - but its time to move on. It shouldnt be getting as high scores as it has. GreySeal9

Can you actually explain what's "too dated" about it or is that just a buzzword?

Any game that gets a 10 should not be able to be improved, added to, and rereleased to get lower than a 9.0.

In MY (I realize GS is not me) mind, a game that recieves a 10 should be a timeless classic that holds up in almost every way over the years, which OoT does, so how does this get so much lower? I think they are wrong in their score, but whatever.

NaveedLife

I hate to sound so curt, but really, you should atleast play the 3DS version before claiming that they are wrong.

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="dercoo"]

8.5ed

Really though, I've not cared for GS reviews since R&C TOD's 7.5:P

dercoo

That one angered me too

And even as a non-Halo fan I found the Halo wars review to be bull *****

GS makes more BS reviews then the other sites IMO, but well, their forums are actually alive.

Could not agree more.

The greatest game of all time being remade is good. New gamers will be able to experience it and old can have fun all over again. 3d is simply breathtaking too. All your arguments are flawed. Just because it it old doesn't mean it's bad. That's like saying music from the 60s and 70s is bad because it's old. I still play classic nes, snes, genesis and ps1 games. I'm not riding nostalgia either, I never played OOT until about 4 years ago. Having played every console and having a gaming pc, I can say that ocarina of time is one of the and always will be greatest games of all time.YoshiYogurt

No it's not. The original OoT isn't bad. Actually, neither is this one. But that argument is flawed because the music is not being remade. If someone were to remake Sweet Child O' Mine with a different drum part, new singers, and some new solos and release it as a new song, it would not be considered the same kind of classic that the original was.

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="StealthMonkey4"]

It's the same exact game of course it's good, but it's blocky visuals and archaic gameplay should make it a 7.0 at highest. I don't see how people are excited over something they could've played 12 years ago and can play on the GCN or N64.

StealthMonkey4

I have, it does hold up well, but not anything above a 7.0 well. If this were not a Zelda game and it weren't for OoT nostalgia, it would be a 7.0 at best. Reviewers are letting nostalgia affect their score and are reviewing it as a remake not as a game released today, which is how it should be reviewed.

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]A flop, just like the 3DS. Nintendo sure are doing everything wrong lately.GreySeal9

Yet the game still has 94% on Gamerankings and 8.5 is still a "great" score.

So how the hell does this prove that "Nintendo is doing everything wrong." :?

Because most reviewers are blinded with nostalgia. Looks like Gamespot were one of the only ones to actually review and judge the game based on its merits today, and not what it was like 13 years ago.

And yeah, the only scrap of potential enjoyment for the 3DS and it gets an 8.5. Not really good enough when the 3DS is failing to move systems.

[QUOTE="NaveedLife"]

Any game that gets a 10 should not be able to be improved, added to, and rereleased to get lower than a 9.0.

In MY (I realize GS is not me) mind, a game that recieves a 10 should be a timeless classic that holds up in almost every way over the years, which OoT does, so how does this get so much lower? I think they are wrong in their score, but whatever.

GreySeal9

I hate to sound so curt, but really, you should atleast play the 3DS version before claiming that they are wrong.

Is it REALLY that hard to judge? I have played OoT recently, I have nearly beaten master quest, I know all the changes, and have seen the graphics. YOur right I should play it, and that is why I have not given it a score. It could be a 10 or it could be a 9, and I am leaning towards a 9.5. That said, it is NOT an 8.5 :P.

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="StealthMonkey4"]

It's the same exact game of course it's good, but it's blocky visuals and archaic gameplay should make it a 7.0 at highest. I don't see how people are excited over something they could've played 12 years ago and can play on the GCN or N64.

Ravensmash

I cannot tell if that was sarcasm or not but regardless, to the people who are just pushing this over to the side saying "meh its 13 years old and shouldn't score high" that is simply stupid if not highly ignorant. It is true that not all games stand the test of time (c wut i did thar?) but some do and just because they may be 13 years old does not make them bad or not worth playing. Star Wars is now 34 years old, yet it is still worth watching over and over again. Citizen Kane is 70 years old and is still regarded as one of the greatest movies. Neither of these movies have the special effects of todays films (aka the high polygon count and texture detail of today's games) nor may have the complexity or style of filming, screen writing, casting, or plot (aka the gameplay of today's games) that may give them away as being old but they are still worth watching and still great films. Likewise, Ocarina of Time is still a phenominal game and deffinately worth another playthrough or two.

[QUOTE="YoshiYogurt"]The greatest game of all time being remade is good. New gamers will be able to experience it and old can have fun all over again. 3d is simply breathtaking too. All your arguments are flawed. Just because it it old doesn't mean it's bad. That's like saying music from the 60s and 70s is bad because it's old. I still play classic nes, snes, genesis and ps1 games. I'm not riding nostalgia either, I never played OOT until about 4 years ago. Having played every console and having a gaming pc, I can say that ocarina of time is one of the and always will be greatest games of all time.Cheesehead9099

No it's not. The original OoT isn't bad. Actually, neither is this one. But that argument is flawed because the music is not being remade. If someone were to remake Sweet Child O' Mine with a different drum part, new singers, and some new solos and release it as a new song, it would not be considered the same kind of classic that the original was.

Wow I am shocked and angry. I completely disagree with their review.

NaveedLife

[QUOTE="fueled-system"]

Honestly people say we are upset but its justifable look at the cons. The cons are completly hypocritical. Their con is something that happens in many games. MANY MANY GAMES DO NOT HAVE HARD MODE UNLOCKED at the start. The fact that they did this as a con shows they are just trying now to do anything they can to knock the score down.

Sometimes I do wonder despite being on this site why I even bother looking at a gamespot review.

Vesica_Prime

I can jump into Veteran in Call of Duty, Legendary in Halo: Reach and Halo 3, set Oblivion to 100 difficulty, Brutal difficulty in Starcraft 2. It's not many, many games that do not have hard mode unlocked at the start but only a few.

[QUOTE="NaveedLife"]

Any game that gets a 10 should not be able to be improved, added to, and rereleased to get lower than a 9.0.

In MY (I realize GS is not me) mind, a game that recieves a 10 should be a timeless classic that holds up in almost every way over the years, which OoT does, so how does this get so much lower? I think they are wrong in their score, but whatever.

GreySeal9

I hate to sound so curt, but really, you should atleast play the 3DS version before claiming that they are wrong.

LOL the butthurt has already begun. I agree with the second post. 20 Year old games should not be graded as new games. A remake should never score over 9.0, no matter how good the game is because it's the SAME game.

And @ the person who lol'd @ GS being 1 point lower than the critic average, what's wrong with that? THey scored infamous 2 one point lower, why not OoT? Oh wait, I forgot it's Zelda so it has to be perfect :roll:

Cheesehead9099

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]A flop, just like the 3DS. Nintendo sure are doing everything wrong lately.RR360DD

Yet the game still has 94% on Gamerankings and 8.5 is still a "great" score.

So how the hell does this prove that "Nintendo is doing everything wrong." :?

Because most reviewers are blinded with nostalgia. Looks like Gamespot were one of the only ones to actually review and judge the game based on its merits today, and not what it was like 13 years ago.

And yeah, the only scrap of potential enjoyment for the 3DS and it gets an 8.5. Not really good enough when the 3DS is failing to move systems.

:lol: at the fanboys.sammyjenkis898

Good, glad to finally see an accurate review, it's a 12 year old game and should be treated as such.

StealthMonkey4

Huh? Just because its old doesnt mean that it automatically cant get a high score, if its aged well it deserves a high score to go along with its quality.

Anyway I expected a 8.5 exactly. Not surprised.

[QUOTE="StealthMonkey4"]

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

Can you actually explain what's "too dated" about it or is that just a buzzword?

GreySeal9

The graphics, the dialogue, the gameplay.

What about the gameplay is too dated?

I mean, really if you're not going to explain yourself, there was no reason to reply at all.

The way Link moves, the dialogue, the puzzles, the graphics (by far), the combat. They would be acceptable 12 years ago, not now.

[QUOTE="funsohng"][QUOTE="Cheesehead9099"]

LOL the butthurt has already begun. I agree with the second post. 20 Year old games should not be graded as new games. A remake should never score over 9.0, no matter how good the game is because it's the SAME game.

And @ the person who lol'd @ GS being 1 point lower than the critic average, what's wrong with that? THey scored infamous 2 one point lower, why not OoT? Oh wait, I forgot it's Zelda so it has to be perfect :roll:

Cheesehead9099

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="Indie_Hitman"]8.5? Eight point five??? Are gamespot mad? Don't they relaise just what game they are reviewing? Miyamoto would be turning in his grave, were he dead. The puzzles, along with their dungeons are classics, and the combat system is a precious relic. The music is reminiscant, and the characters just as interesting as 13 years ago. This game should have gotten no ore than 7.0. I love the game. I really do. Nostalgia plays a mjor role. But whenever i play, I do always feel as though soemthings empty. It's just too dated. It is amazing, perfect for its time - but its time to move on. It shouldnt be getting as high scores as it has. Indie_Hitman

Can you actually explain what's "too dated" about it or is that just a buzzword?

In most cases, I don't think that is true. Actually, most current gen games seem to be more simplistic in their level designs for example.

Really, I think their graphics are just built up from OoT and there's a bit of refinement as far as controls are concerned. Otherwise, games these days don't really boast more complex designs.

I really think people overestimate how "built up" current gen games are.

I stopped paying attention to gamespot's scores. I don't know whats going through their heads on many of the games they review.

[QUOTE="NaveedLife"]

Wow I am shocked and angry. I completely disagree with their review.

Marka1700

I disagree with the score and yes the review is up.

[QUOTE="Vesica_Prime"]

[QUOTE="fueled-system"]

Honestly people say we are upset but its justifable look at the cons. The cons are completly hypocritical. Their con is something that happens in many games. MANY MANY GAMES DO NOT HAVE HARD MODE UNLOCKED at the start. The fact that they did this as a con shows they are just trying now to do anything they can to knock the score down.

Sometimes I do wonder despite being on this site why I even bother looking at a gamespot review.

fueled-system

I can jump into Veteran in Call of Duty, Legendary in Halo: Reach and Halo 3, set Oblivion to 100 difficulty, Brutal difficulty in Starcraft 2. It's not many, many games that do not have hard mode unlocked at the start but only a few.

One game =/= "Many, many games"

I liked the review, it's well written.

I'm glad that the motion controls are actually regarded as a benefit and don't come off overly gimmicky. Glad to also see that Chris Watters believes that Ocarina of Time 3D is the definitive (or best) way to play the game.

Though, would've liked to see any mention of the 3D effect iself. Odd that it is missing from the review.

Haziqonfire

[QUOTE="Cheesehead9099"]

[QUOTE="YoshiYogurt"]The greatest game of all time being remade is good. New gamers will be able to experience it and old can have fun all over again. 3d is simply breathtaking too. All your arguments are flawed. Just because it it old doesn't mean it's bad. That's like saying music from the 60s and 70s is bad because it's old. I still play classic nes, snes, genesis and ps1 games. I'm not riding nostalgia either, I never played OOT until about 4 years ago. Having played every console and having a gaming pc, I can say that ocarina of time is one of the and always will be greatest games of all time.YoshiYogurt

No it's not. The original OoT isn't bad. Actually, neither is this one. But that argument is flawed because the music is not being remade. If someone were to remake Sweet Child O' Mine with a different drum part, new singers, and some new solos and release it as a new song, it would not be considered the same kind of classic that the original was.

Gamespot has been harsh as hell lately. inFamous 2 is a 7.5 for being 50 times better than the first? Either the first is heavily overrated or the second is underrated. But I digress, its still a great game, if it wasn't on such an inferior system I'd be interested.