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As anyone who has looked at GR for a few seconds has noticed, Ocarina of Time is currently the first best game. Question is, this year will it likely be dethroned? There's one game being released on the 29th that looks rather promising, open world, criminal action. Rather solid looking game that may perhaps dethrone Ocarina of Time. It's part of a great running series naturally that has a great experience.

Also there's some other games coming out which I will not list because they are far to awesome and if you have missed them then it is your own fault for being so damn cheeky and not paying attention to the gaming industry. Well. Fine, perhaps Metal Gear Solid 4 might dethrone it, or Fable 2 perhaps. Likely Spore or Starcraft II though.

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#2 Snowboarder99
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I doubt it
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well in general, the later the review the more tempered it is. So, games have dethroned ocarina before, only to fall back below. I'm guessing that this will happen to gta4.
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#4 Canuck3000
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No. OoT isn't a rehash
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#5 Gh0st_Of_0nyx
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:lol: OoT being dethroned by a casual game
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#6 whocares4peace
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OoT has a 98% average because so few publications reviewed it. In this day, 100's of sites review a game and one or two will give a game a low rating and bring the whole average down. So, no, OoT isnt going anywhere.
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#7 LordQuorthon
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If any game is going to dethrone Ocarina of Time, it will probably be Starcraft II.
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As anyone who has looked at GR for a few seconds has noticed, Ocarina of Time is currently the first best game. Question is, this year will it likely be dethroned? There's one game being released on the 29th that looks rather promising, open world, criminal action. Rather solid looking game that may perhaps dethrone Ocarina of Time. It's part of a great running series naturally that has a great experience.

Also there's some other games coming out which I will not list because they are far to awesome and if you have missed them then it is your own fault for being so damn cheeky and not paying attention to the gaming industry. Well. Fine, perhaps Metal Gear Solid 4 might dethrone it, or Fable 2 perhaps. Likely Spore or Starcraft II though.

thrones

OOt didn't have to go against all the gms back.Gta has to be amazing and plus u have to remember OOt reviews are very little while in the coming weeks u will see no name websites saying GTA is a 8.0 and lower it's score.OOt has like 30 reviews while the others from the top ten gets like 100.

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#9 Video_Game_King
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The only time I remember it being dethroned was with Super Mario Galaxy. But it went back to #1, pushing Mario down into 2nd place.
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#10 DustAmulet
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Ocarina of Time was good when it came out. Compared to games released now, it is very poor. It was dethroned long ago.

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#11 Eponique
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If a game happens to dethrone OoT, I just hope it isn't GTA4. At least make it Spore or Starcraft II
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It's definitely possible. SMG almost did it. If any game this gen surpasses SMG, it won't have much ground left to cover in orther to surpass OOT.
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Ocarina of Time was good when it came out. Compared to games released now, it is very poor. It was dethroned long ago.

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As #1 on gamerankings? No sir

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#14 crunchUK
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noes. since games are muchmuchmuch bigger nowadays, there is muchmuchmuch more room for flaws (somewhat liike pcs...). so that's why, it is near impossible to beat OoT
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#15 deactivated-5b1e62582e305
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OOT isn't even that good...

Mario Galaxy should be on the throne.

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Ocarina of Time will never be replaced due to the many reviews that come out nowadays...
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There's only a select number of reviews for OoT, with all these major games coming out - it's unlikely that it would surpass that score.

I personally think it's unfair, truly. MGS4, GTAIV, Fable 2, Starcraft 2, and Spore will all get a lot of reviews upwards in the nineties - so the odds of getting a really high percentage is difficult.

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As anyone who has looked at GR for a few seconds has noticed, Ocarina of Time is currently the first best game. Question is, this year will it likely be dethroned? There's one game being released on the 29th that looks rather promising, open world, criminal action. Rather solid looking game that may perhaps dethrone Ocarina of Time. It's part of a great running series naturally that has a great experience.

Also there's some other games coming out which I will not list because they are far to awesome and if you have missed them then it is your own fault for being so damn cheeky and not paying attention to the gaming industry. Well. Fine, perhaps Metal Gear Solid 4 might dethrone it, or Fable 2 perhaps. Likely Spore or Starcraft II though.

thrones

Metal Gear Solid 4 and Fable will not dethrone it. That is silly. Metal Gear Solid 4's critical performance will be inferior to that of GTA4, so why in the world would it dethrone Zelda?

Fable...I can only lol at that.

Spore and Starcraft are anyone's guess.

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No game should ever dethrone Ocarina of Time. Considering how many "bs" sites that reviews games in a biased way anyway. (Let's say Xbox magazine) it shouldn't count for anything.

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:lol: OoT being dethroned by a casual game Gh0st_Of_0nyx

Just stop.

GTA is an incredibly deep experience. That casuals like it speaks to its universal appeal.

You're trying to downplay and demean GTA and it makes you look like you're in a state of damage control.

Maybe you should read the reviews for GTA4 and see why its getting 10's all over the place. They are saying it is one of the deepest, most immersive console games to ever hit.

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#21 butteater86
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Ocarina of Time was good when it came out. Compared to games released now, it is very poor. It was dethroned long ago.

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Lmao. It was never dethroned.

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GR is a poor representation of what the "best" games are. The amount of reviews OoT received back in its day were far less than most games receive today thus making it a much more easier to achieve goal for OoT. Most of the praise for OoT comes from the bandwagon these days and nostalgia.

There can be no quantitative objective "best" game since all of that "objective data" is subjective opinion.

If OoT were the objective "best" game because of its rating than the conclusion can be reached that every other game that has recieved the same rating, 10/10 or 5/5 or 100/100, at every other game review site/magazine is on the same level as OoT.
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OOT isn't even that good...

Mario Galaxy should be on the throne.

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You're joking, surely?

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#24 deactivated-5b1e62582e305
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[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

OOT isn't even that good...

Mario Galaxy should be on the throne.

super_mario_128

You're joking, surely?

No I am not joking.

OoT gets all this praise only from Nostalgia. The game is terrible compared to todays standards.

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#25 thrones
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[QUOTE="super_mario_128"][QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

OOT isn't even that good...

Mario Galaxy should be on the throne.

Aljosa23

You're joking, surely?

No I am not joking.

OoT gets all this praise only from Nostalgia. The game is terrible compared to todays standards.

Perhaps, but BioShock or Banjo will be terrible in a few years.

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[QUOTE="Aljosa23"][QUOTE="super_mario_128"][QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

OOT isn't even that good...

Mario Galaxy should be on the throne.

thrones

You're joking, surely?

No I am not joking.

OoT gets all this praise only from Nostalgia. The game is terrible compared to todays standards.

Perhaps, but BioShock or Banjo will be terrible in a few years.

That's true but by then we will have sequels to those games. ;)
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Ocarina of Time is still a great game.
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#28 SSCyborg
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Nope.

Can't dethrone a God.

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I think so, GTA IV is a cultural phenom
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[QUOTE="super_mario_128"][QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

OOT isn't even that good...

Mario Galaxy should be on the throne.

Aljosa23

You're joking, surely?

No I am not joking.

OoT gets all this praise only from Nostalgia. The game is terrible compared to todays standards.

I'm sure you'll be saying that about Galaxy in a couple of years.

Galaxy gets all this hype now but lets see in 5 years. Ocarina of Time is one of the greatest games ever made. Not the greatest in my eyes but great. Games (especially Nintendo games) are only good in one aspect - Gameplay. The music is pretty much the same. The graphics are a big meh considering the PS3 and 360 kill them (not saying they are bad but comparing it to other games from the current generation). The story sucks and is nonexistant. Finally, no multiplayer which is not a terrible thing in some great single player games like Bioshock or Metal Gear Solid that have great stories.

Galaxy is probably a solid game but not gods gift to gaming like most people say it is. Ocarina of Time did what games should at the time. Like IGN said, the game "it means a game is pushing boundaries, expanding a genre, and doing many things to a level so far above and beyond its competitors". And thats what Ocarina of Time did at the time and what GTA IV is doing now. Galaxy hasn't really pushed anything. Sure its motion controls are unique but forgetful.

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#31 com2006
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San Andreas had similar scores at first and then dropped off, its very tough to stay up there especially with the amount of reviews there is going to be.
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There are simply too many review sources around these days. Mario Galaxy was ahead for weeks, only to be taken down again by a few 9.0s.
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Oot wasent good when it was released :|
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#34 Tragic_Kingdom7
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Ocarina of Time is still a great game.yellowandmushy

I agree.

It still has better level design than most current games.

That being said, if any game can dethrone it, I would count on it being GTAIV.

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#35 Snowboarder99
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Oot wasent good when it was released :|Colorful_Hippie

I guess that's why it is #1 on Gamerankings. Don't act like your opinion is fact

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#36 foxhound_fox
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Ocarina of Time is one of the greatest games ever made. Not the greatest in my eyes but great.Auroni

What a lot of people seem to miss is that most of what makes OoT OoT came from A Link to the Past. I've noticed that a lot of people who claim that OoT is "the greatest" have not even played A Link to the Past which I find to be quite odd.
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[QUOTE="Aljosa23"][QUOTE="super_mario_128"][QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

OOT isn't even that good...

Mario Galaxy should be on the throne.

Auroni

You're joking, surely?

No I am not joking.

OoT gets all this praise only from Nostalgia. The game is terrible compared to todays standards.

I'm sure you'll be saying that about Galaxy in a couple of years.

Galaxy gets all this hype now but lets see in 5 years. Ocarina of Time is one of the greatest games ever made. Not the greatest in my eyes but great. Games (especially Nintendo games) are only good in one aspect - Gameplay. The music is pretty much the same. The graphics are a big meh considering the PS3 and 360 kill them (not saying they are bad but comparing it to other games from the current generation). The story sucks and is nonexistant. Finally, no multiplayer which is not a terrible thing in some great single player games like Bioshock or Metal Gear Solid that have great stories.

Galaxy is probably a solid game but not gods gift to gaming like most people say it is. Ocarina of Time did what games should at the time. Like IGN said, the game "it means a game is pushing boundaries, expanding a genre, and doing many things to a level so far above and beyond its competitors". And thats what Ocarina of Time did at the time and what GTA IV is doing now. Galaxy hasn't really pushed anything. Sure its motion controls are unique but forgetful.

So you're saying Galaxy doesn't fit that description? Even though it single-handedly revieved the platforming genre.

OoT is a great but doesn't deserve to be the best in the series. WW>>>>LttP>>>MM>>>>TP>>>OOT>>>LoZ>>>>>LoZII

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[QUOTE="Auroni"]Ocarina of Time is one of the greatest games ever made. Not the greatest in my eyes but great.foxhound_fox

What a lot of people seem to miss is that most of what makes OoT OoT came from A Link to the Past. I've noticed that a lot of people who claim that OoT is "the greatest" have not even played A Link to the Past which I find to be quite odd.

I have.

The only way to improve on the perfect 2D Zelda.

Make a perfect 3D Zelda.

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[QUOTE="thrones"]

As anyone who has looked at GR for a few seconds has noticed, Ocarina of Time is currently the first best game. Question is, this year will it likely be dethroned? There's one game being released on the 29th that looks rather promising, open world, criminal action. Rather solid looking game that may perhaps dethrone Ocarina of Time. It's part of a great running series naturally that has a great experience.

Also there's some other games coming out which I will not list because they are far to awesome and if you have missed them then it is your own fault for being so damn cheeky and not paying attention to the gaming industry. Well. Fine, perhaps Metal Gear Solid 4 might dethrone it, or Fable 2 perhaps. Likely Spore or Starcraft II though.

jujutheking

OOt didn't have to go against all the gms back.Gta has to be amazing and plus u have to remember OOt reviews are very little while in the coming weeks u will see no name websites saying GTA is a 8.0 and lower it's score.OOt has like 30 reviews while the others from the top ten gets like 100.

Complete and utter lies. Stop making stuff up.

  • There is only one game with at least 100 reviews in the Top Ten on GameRankings and that is Resident Evil 4 for the GameCube.
  • None of the other games come even close to 100 reviews except Metroid Prime for the GameCube.
  • There are 4 games in the Top Ten on GameRankings with less reviews than Ocarina of Time.

What you are basically saying is that Metroid Prme for the GameCube with its 91 reviews should be above The Orange Box for the PC with its 31 reviews, right?
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OoT wont have as many reviews as GTA4, so its pointless to say which one is #1.

The best game is your own preference, and preference is not universal.

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#41 SSCyborg
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WW>>>>LttP>>>MM>>>>TP>>>OOT>>>LoZ>>>>>LoZII

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Oh please. Worse than TP? That rehash?

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The joke is that you rate TP over OoT. What was good about TP, honestly? To me, it was a massive disappointment and my least favourite Zelda game.
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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="Auroni"]Ocarina of Time is one of the greatest games ever made. Not the greatest in my eyes but great.SSCyborg


What a lot of people seem to miss is that most of what makes OoT OoT came from A Link to the Past. I've noticed that a lot of people who claim that OoT is "the greatest" have not even played A Link to the Past which I find to be quite odd.

I have.

The only way to improve on the perfect 2D Zelda.

Make a perfect 3D Zelda.

Exactly.

And it's called Wind Waker.

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GR is a poor representation of what the "best" games are. The amount of reviews OoT received back in its day were far less than most games receive today thus making it a much more easier to achieve goal for OoT. Most of the praise for OoT comes from the bandwagon these days and nostalgia.

There can be no quantitative objective "best" game since all of that "objective data" is subjective opinion.

If OoT were the objective "best" game because of its rating than the conclusion can be reached that every other game that has recieved the same rating, 10/10 or 5/5 or 100/100, at every other game review site/magazine is on the same level as OoT.foxhound_fox

Not to mention that GR has only started since the days of the N64 if I'm not mistaken.

In any case, I still find that people make too much of a deal out of this. It's not that OOT is the the epitome of greatness in gaming because it is the first on the list of GR, it's simply a fact that it is the first on that list. What is in question, isn't if whether or not OOT is the best game of all time, but if it can or not be pushed aside from that top ten's list in the first place.

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The time has come for the old king to step down and let the new king move in

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The joke is that you rate TP over OoT. What was good about TP, honestly? To me, it was a massive disappointment and my least favourite Zelda game.super_mario_128
The story and the epic scale of the world, The dungeons were more interesting and the boss fights were interesting to fight even though they were stupid easy.
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It seems like Nintendo fanboys will do anything to make current day Nintendo look like it is as good as SNES-64 era Nintendo when it's not.

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I hope so. OoT was easily the most overrated game in history.
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#49 super_mario_128
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[QUOTE="super_mario_128"]The joke is that you rate TP over OoT. What was good about TP, honestly? To me, it was a massive disappointment and my least favourite Zelda game.Aljosa23
The story and the epic scale of the world, The dungeons were more interesting and the boss fights were interesting to fight even though they were stupid easy.

The story was dull and predictable, it really needs a change now. The epic scale of the World? Yep, minus any detail whatsoever. It was just huge fields with nothing to fill it, even OoT did a better job considering it's age. And the dungeons better? Now you're having a laugh. They were linear, and even the temples that copied OoT (Water temple, fire temple; yes, I know they aren't called that) were inferior to the originals. And the bosses? :lol: Don't get me started.

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#50 ArisShadows
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So you're saying Galaxy doesn't fit that description? Even though it single-handedly revieved the platforming genre.

OoT is a great but doesn't deserve to be the best in the series. WW>>>>LttP>>>MM>>>>TP>>>OOT>>>LoZ>>>>>LoZII

OoT is by far the best in the series. It is the epitome of what makes Zelda great.


To say that WW or TP is better is a joke. Especially considering that TP is a pale imitation of OoT and parts of WW was filler.

The 64 Zelda's were definitely the best.

Tragic_Kingdom7

What about A link in The Past. I personally find that being the best out of all Zeldas.