Octopath Traveler is more immersive than God of War

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After 20 hours of Octopath Traveler, I feel myself being pulled joyfully through the game. On the other hand, playing GoW to completion was like a job after 5 hours.

Immersion is a funny thing, doesn’t matter how good the visuals are in the slightest if you’re being pulled out of the experience.

And GoW is master class compared to anything Naughty Dog has done in the last decade.

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Insert grabs popcorn gif lol

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This should be good. lol

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welp here for the ride

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@i_p_daily said:

Insert grabs popcorn gif lol

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Octo > GoW

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It looks like a PS1 game.

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cool story

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Won't take long for the usual suspects to arrive to call everyone an idiot for saying somethings better then GOW......One clown has already posted his .GIF in protest.

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#11 djoffer
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@scatteh316: but you used to be one of those clowns??? it’s so confusing when cows change personalities over night...

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#13  Edited By KBFloYd
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bu but 5 millionz

lol

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#14  Edited By scatteh316
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@djoffer said:

@scatteh316: but you used to be one of those clowns??? it’s so confusing when cows change personalities over night...

I've never been that bad and tended to argue a lot more with Hermits more then anything else, Hermits HATE the fact I used to game exclusively on PC and have moved back to console and are happy with the swap.

Oh and I'm still a clown ?

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@Utensilman: A good attempt at trolling, but you made it to obvious near the end of your post.

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Haven't played either, but I'm 90% sure I'd be way more immersed with Octopath than GoW too. I'm just not that amazed by good graphics like most people are. Devs don't really need to make good gameplay anymore, as long as the game is presented well, and I try my best to stay away from such games. If it's presentation I'm after, I'd rather watch a movie. From what I've seen, GoW's gameplay ain't much to write home about. Very popular with casual gamers from what I understand, but I've been gaming for 28 years. I want more than what a game like GoW offers. Unnecessarily tacked on RPG elements annoy me to no end as well. Fucking GoW. Fucking AC. Like... why do they have it? Makes them more of a chore to play rather than more fun. I'd much prefer the player to find different items with different abilities you can combine however you want instead of "yay, I got exactly the same armor with 2 more armor points on it. How exciting".

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@Litchie said:

Haven't played either, but I'm 90% sure I'd be way more immersed with Octopath than GoW too. I'm just not that amazed by good graphics like most people are. Devs don't really need to make good gameplay anymore, as long as the game is presented well, and I try my best to stay away from such games. If it's presentation I'm after, I'd rather watch a movie. From what I've seen, GoW's gameplay ain't much to write home about. Very popular with casual gamers from what I understand, but I've been gaming for 28 years. I want more than what a game like GoW offers. Unnecessarily tacked on RPG elements annoy me to no end as well. Fucking GoW. Fucking AC. Like... why do they have it? Makes them more of a chore to play rather than more fun. I'd much prefer the player to find different items with different abilities you can combine however you want instead of "yay, I got exactly the same armor with 2 more armor points on it. How exciting".

That's a lot of waffle about a game you haven't played.

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@boycie said:
@Litchie said:

Haven't played either, but I'm 90% sure I'd be way more immersed with Octopath than GoW too. I'm just not that amazed by good graphics like most people are. Devs don't really need to make good gameplay anymore, as long as the game is presented well, and I try my best to stay away from such games. If it's presentation I'm after, I'd rather watch a movie. From what I've seen, GoW's gameplay ain't much to write home about. Very popular with casual gamers from what I understand, but I've been gaming for 28 years. I want more than what a game like GoW offers. Unnecessarily tacked on RPG elements annoy me to no end as well. Fucking GoW. Fucking AC. Like... why do they have it? Makes them more of a chore to play rather than more fun. I'd much prefer the player to find different items with different abilities you can combine however you want instead of "yay, I got exactly the same armor with 2 more armor points on it. How exciting".

That's a lot of waffle about a game you haven't played.

I have lots of opinions of games I've never played. It's not that hard. I've played a shitload of games. As soon as I see a game, I know pretty much how it is to play.

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@Litchie said:

Haven't played either, but I'm 90% sure I'd be way more immersed with Octopath than GoW too. I'm just not that amazed by good graphics like most people are. Devs don't really need to make good gameplay anymore, as long as the game is presented well, and I try my best to stay away from such games. If it's presentation I'm after, I'd rather watch a movie. From what I've seen, GoW's gameplay ain't much to write home about. Very popular with casual gamers from what I understand, but I've been gaming for 28 years. I want more than what a game like GoW offers. Unnecessarily tacked on RPG elements annoy me to no end as well. Fucking GoW. Fucking AC. Like... why do they have it? Makes them more of a chore to play rather than more fun. I'd much prefer the player to find different items with different abilities you can combine however you want instead of "yay, I got exactly the same armor with 2 more armor points on it. How exciting".

This has got to be one of the biggest, if not biggest rant/criticism I've read in Systems Wars about a game someone hasn't even played. There's like 4 paragraphs when you divide this wall of text.

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@needhealing: Yet they are words of truth. Give me a 100 hour game with deep gameplay over a 15 hour shallow experience that mostly leans on its presentation. In fact, most of these games are so short because 90% of the budget went into presentation.

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@needhealing said:
@Litchie said:

Haven't played either, but I'm 90% sure I'd be way more immersed with Octopath than GoW too. I'm just not that amazed by good graphics like most people are. Devs don't really need to make good gameplay anymore, as long as the game is presented well, and I try my best to stay away from such games. If it's presentation I'm after, I'd rather watch a movie. From what I've seen, GoW's gameplay ain't much to write home about. Very popular with casual gamers from what I understand, but I've been gaming for 28 years. I want more than what a game like GoW offers. Unnecessarily tacked on RPG elements annoy me to no end as well. Fucking GoW. Fucking AC. Like... why do they have it? Makes them more of a chore to play rather than more fun. I'd much prefer the player to find different items with different abilities you can combine however you want instead of "yay, I got exactly the same armor with 2 more armor points on it. How exciting".

This has got to be one of the biggest, if not biggest rant/criticism I've read in Systems Wars about a game someone hasn't even played. There's like 4 paragraphs when you divide this wall of text.

I'm pretty sure this isn't even close to the biggest rant you've seen on SW. It's not even that ranty. And do you seriously think that everyone here who has something bad to say about a game has played the game? LOL.

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TC sounds insecure about his purchase.

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#24  Edited By ArchoNils2
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As someone who plated GoW on Ps4, I agree with TC. Octopath Traveler does a lot very good. The writing is some of the best I have ever seen (at least in german), I love most of the characters (including NPCs) and the love to detail (heck, you can use Alfyn to get the backstory of dogs). The 8 unique story are refreshing and it is actually hard for me to decide which chapter to do next because they are all so exciting.

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@Sgt_Crow: Words of BS, you haven't even played the game lol.

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@Litchie said:
@needhealing said:
@Litchie said:

Haven't played either, but I'm 90% sure I'd be way more immersed with Octopath than GoW too. I'm just not that amazed by good graphics like most people are. Devs don't really need to make good gameplay anymore, as long as the game is presented well, and I try my best to stay away from such games. If it's presentation I'm after, I'd rather watch a movie. From what I've seen, GoW's gameplay ain't much to write home about. Very popular with casual gamers from what I understand, but I've been gaming for 28 years. I want more than what a game like GoW offers. Unnecessarily tacked on RPG elements annoy me to no end as well. Fucking GoW. Fucking AC. Like... why do they have it? Makes them more of a chore to play rather than more fun. I'd much prefer the player to find different items with different abilities you can combine however you want instead of "yay, I got exactly the same armor with 2 more armor points on it. How exciting".

This has got to be one of the biggest, if not biggest rant/criticism I've read in Systems Wars about a game someone hasn't even played. There's like 4 paragraphs when you divide this wall of text.

I'm pretty sure this isn't even close to the biggest rant you've seen on SW. It's not even that ranty. And do you seriously think that everyone here who has something bad to say about a game has played the game? LOL.

No, but a game that was release, to critical acclaim getting a massive rant like "unessary tacked on rpg elements" without even playing it is just insane. I've never spoken ill of a game's gameplay mechanics if I haven't played it.

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Sheep vs Cows....

Good stuff. lol :P

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@needhealing said:
@Litchie said:
@needhealing said:
@Litchie said:

Haven't played either, but I'm 90% sure I'd be way more immersed with Octopath than GoW too. I'm just not that amazed by good graphics like most people are. Devs don't really need to make good gameplay anymore, as long as the game is presented well, and I try my best to stay away from such games. If it's presentation I'm after, I'd rather watch a movie. From what I've seen, GoW's gameplay ain't much to write home about. Very popular with casual gamers from what I understand, but I've been gaming for 28 years. I want more than what a game like GoW offers. Unnecessarily tacked on RPG elements annoy me to no end as well. Fucking GoW. Fucking AC. Like... why do they have it? Makes them more of a chore to play rather than more fun. I'd much prefer the player to find different items with different abilities you can combine however you want instead of "yay, I got exactly the same armor with 2 more armor points on it. How exciting".

This has got to be one of the biggest, if not biggest rant/criticism I've read in Systems Wars about a game someone hasn't even played. There's like 4 paragraphs when you divide this wall of text.

I'm pretty sure this isn't even close to the biggest rant you've seen on SW. It's not even that ranty. And do you seriously think that everyone here who has something bad to say about a game has played the game? LOL.

No, but a game that was release, to critical acclaim getting a massive rant like "unessary tacked on rpg elements" without even playing it is just insane. I've never spoken ill of a game's gameplay mechanics if I haven't played it.

Since I found that stuff awful in AC Origins, I can imagine me not liking it in GoW either, which is another game series that hasn't had or needed RPG elements like that in the past. I've also read and heard other people who've played it who didn't like that stuff.

I did not say the game is bad, mind you. I'm saying I'm pretty sure I wouldn't like it and went on to explain why. Huge difference. Also, "I've never spoken ill of a game's gameplay mechanics if I haven't played it" is 100% utter bullshit and you know it.

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@needhealing said:
@Litchie said:
@needhealing said:
@Litchie said:

Haven't played either, but I'm 90% sure I'd be way more immersed with Octopath than GoW too. I'm just not that amazed by good graphics like most people are. Devs don't really need to make good gameplay anymore, as long as the game is presented well, and I try my best to stay away from such games. If it's presentation I'm after, I'd rather watch a movie. From what I've seen, GoW's gameplay ain't much to write home about. Very popular with casual gamers from what I understand, but I've been gaming for 28 years. I want more than what a game like GoW offers. Unnecessarily tacked on RPG elements annoy me to no end as well. Fucking GoW. Fucking AC. Like... why do they have it? Makes them more of a chore to play rather than more fun. I'd much prefer the player to find different items with different abilities you can combine however you want instead of "yay, I got exactly the same armor with 2 more armor points on it. How exciting".

This has got to be one of the biggest, if not biggest rant/criticism I've read in Systems Wars about a game someone hasn't even played. There's like 4 paragraphs when you divide this wall of text.

I'm pretty sure this isn't even close to the biggest rant you've seen on SW. It's not even that ranty. And do you seriously think that everyone here who has something bad to say about a game has played the game? LOL.

No, but a game that was release, to critical acclaim getting a massive rant like "unessary tacked on rpg elements" without even playing it is just insane. I've never spoken ill of a game's gameplay mechanics if I haven't played it.

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@i_p_daily said:

Insert grabs popcorn gif lol

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#33 Juub1990
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ITT: People still mad GOW is one of the best games released in the past 5 years.

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@boycie: That was indeed pretty fucking funny.

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@Utensilman: cool story bro

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ITT: People still mad GOW is one of the best games released in the past 5 years.

In your opinion. For me it won't even make it into my top 3 this year. A great game, sure. But I prefer other games

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@Litchie said:

Haven't played either, but I'm 90% sure I'd be way more immersed with Octopath than GoW too. I'm just not that amazed by good graphics like most people are. Devs don't really need to make good gameplay anymore, as long as the game is presented well, and I try my best to stay away from such games. If it's presentation I'm after, I'd rather watch a movie. From what I've seen, GoW's gameplay ain't much to write home about. Very popular with casual gamers from what I understand, but I've been gaming for 28 years. I want more than what a game like GoW offers. Unnecessarily tacked on RPG elements annoy me to no end as well. Fucking GoW. Fucking AC. Like... why do they have it? Makes them more of a chore to play rather than more fun. I'd much prefer the player to find different items with different abilities you can combine however you want instead of "yay, I got exactly the same armor with 2 more armor points on it. How exciting".

Yeah we believe you..

This is basically a sad excuse to downplay something great,you haven't play GOW by your own words,but somehow you know GOW gameplay ain't much.

Octopacth is a classic style old RPG game that gameplay is done to hell and beyond,even its theme is burn out by now,i like the game because it remind me of old school RPG from there to say GOW ain't much to defend a game that gameplay wise is burn is a joke.

They aren't even on the same genre what is next? GT Sport vs Grand theft auto.?

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@ArchoNils2 said:
@Juub1990 said:

ITT: People still mad GOW is one of the best games released in the past 5 years.

In your opinion. For me it won't even make it into my top 3 this year. A great game, sure. But I prefer other games

Which are better this year?

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@tormentos said:
@Litchie said:

Haven't played either, but I'm 90% sure I'd be way more immersed with Octopath than GoW too. I'm just not that amazed by good graphics like most people are. Devs don't really need to make good gameplay anymore, as long as the game is presented well, and I try my best to stay away from such games. If it's presentation I'm after, I'd rather watch a movie. From what I've seen, GoW's gameplay ain't much to write home about. Very popular with casual gamers from what I understand, but I've been gaming for 28 years. I want more than what a game like GoW offers. Unnecessarily tacked on RPG elements annoy me to no end as well. Fucking GoW. Fucking AC. Like... why do they have it? Makes them more of a chore to play rather than more fun. I'd much prefer the player to find different items with different abilities you can combine however you want instead of "yay, I got exactly the same armor with 2 more armor points on it. How exciting".

Yeah we believe you..

This is basically a sad excuse to downplay something great,you haven't play GOW by your own words,but somehow you know GOW gameplay ain't much.

Octopacth is a classic style old RPG game that gameplay is done to hell and beyond,even its theme is burn out by now,i like the game because it remind me of old school RPG from there to say GOW ain't much to defend a game that gameplay wise is burn is a joke.

They aren't even on the same genre what is next? GT Sport vs Grand theft auto.?

Wait wait, Litchi can't talk about GoW because he hasn't played it but you dare to speak nonsense about Octopath Traveler? It has some of the deepest gameplay in the whole genre, especially with all the abilities the characters have. And they reworked the Braverly Default battle system to give you more options. Also lol, classic style? Show me retro game that looks like OT. The whole point of OTs artstyle is to mix old sprite work with current gen effects:

@tormentos said:
@ArchoNils2 said:
@Juub1990 said:

ITT: People still mad GOW is one of the best games released in the past 5 years.

In your opinion. For me it won't even make it into my top 3 this year. A great game, sure. But I prefer other games

Which are better this year?

Again, I'm only talking about my personal opinion. I enjoy Octopath Traveler a lot more than GoW. NISA is remaking my fav. game of all time which is Disgaea, pretty sure that will be my GotY.

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Haven't played Octo yet but I agree 100% with what you said regarding GoW vs ND. It was an in-house shaming.

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Octopath, played that 20 years ago, complete dog shit.

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Apples are SO much better than oranges!

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@BenjaminBanklin said:

Apples are SO much better than oranges!

I prefer a banana.

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@boycie said:
@BenjaminBanklin said:

Apples are SO much better than oranges!

I prefer a banana.

Me too. #BananaMasterRace

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@Ant_17 said:
@boycie said:
@BenjaminBanklin said:

Apples are SO much better than oranges!

I prefer a banana.

Me too. #BananaMasterRace

This is now a 3 fruit race. The Oranges just took an 80 million bushel lead.

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@BenjaminBanklin said:
@Ant_17 said:

Me too. #BananaMasterRace

This is now a 3 fruit race. The Oranges just took an 80 million bushel lead.

That vitamin C is a good exclusive.

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@Ant_17 said:
@boycie said:
@BenjaminBanklin said:

Apples are SO much better than oranges!

I prefer a banana.

Me too. #BananaMasterRace

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#49 Utensilman
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I understand that these games are drastically different but immersion is immersion. OPT doesn’t take me out of it like GoW did.

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#50 ArchoNils2
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Yeah the "the games are differenct" argument doesn't hold up if the topic isn't about the whole game but only one specific aspect of it. I can very well, just as an example, say that I like Primrose as a character more than I like Kratos. They might be from very different games, but you're still able to directly compare the two characters. Immersion is something you can compare as well. The problem is, as always, that it is very subjective. It's kinda sad seeing most in here haven't played both games and don't even know what they are talking about. You can't rate immersion if you haven't played the game ... or at least watched a walkthrough or something.