ODST = The game that Bungie is the most proud of. Not an expansion, a full game

[QUOTE="Z0MBIES"]This game just isn't interesting me.BioShockOwnz

It's really the first Halo since Combat Evolved that has me squealing like a pig with excitement.

[QUOTE="fedor19820"]

[QUOTE="SparkyProtocol"] A very ignorant statement. With that logic every dev should throw their used engines in to the virtual trashcan. And the broken console statement puzzles me.

delta3074

by broken system he is talking about the horrible failure rate the xbox360 has due to the RROD and hard drive issue

by hard drive issue i was talking about how some people have problems with their xbox360 recognizing the hard drive when its hooked up to the xbox360

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

[QUOTE="Z0MBIES"]This game just isn't interesting me.hy4k

It's really the first Halo since Combat Evolved that has me squealing like a pig with excitement.

Yes, but you haven't played it. I'll avoid calling them "liars" until I experience it for myself. Innocent until proven guilty.

Yes, but you haven't played it. I'll avoid calling them "liars" until I experience it for myself. Innocent until proven guilty.

BioShockOwnz

it's a 6 hour long game with the same multiplayer mode/maps and the same engine

that's not a new game

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

[QUOTE="Z0MBIES"]This game just isn't interesting me.hy4k

It's really the first Halo since Combat Evolved that has me squealing like a pig with excitement.

[QUOTE="Syferonik"]

[QUOTE="Syn_Valence"]

Blah halo 3.5 confirmed just shows how much effort 360 developers put into games................which is none..........this looks like halo 3 but with new characters......but again they buy a broken console i shouldnt be surprised by now??

MGS4 doesn't run at 720p native. Neither does COD4. Tons of big AAA titles don't. That doesn't mean anything. This is drastically different in its gameplay structure, look, and feel than any previous Halo, so the 3.whatever argument doesn't hold any water whatsoever.

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

Yes, but you haven't played it. I'll avoid calling them "liars" until I experience it for myself. Innocent until proven guilty.

hy4k

it's a 6 hour long game with the same multiplayer mode/maps and the same engine

that's not a new game

I beat Killzone 2 in 6 hours. I beat Gears 1 and 2 in 6 hours. I beat R2 in 6 hours.

Those are considered "full games", are they not?

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

[QUOTE="Syferonik"]Not even 3.5 more like 3.2 lol wtf its not even running at 720p...what kind of fail is this?

PS3Breeder

MGS4 doesn't run at 720p native. Neither does COD4. Tons of big AAA titles don't. That doesn't mean anything. This is drastically different in its gameplay structure, look, and feel than any previous Halo, so the 3.whatever argument doesn't hold any water whatsoever.

I hate the aesthetics and art direction of MGS4. Everything looks so bland and static. COD4 looked okay, nothing more.

And the Cows are out in full force, the 360 is always bashed, same thing happens to the PS3 and its quickly swept under the carpet...

-Pred-Alien-

Oh hype of halo 3odst:AA

[QUOTE="Syn_Valence"]

Blah halo 3.5 confirmed just shows how much effort 360 developers put into games................which is none..........this looks like halo 3 but with new characters......but again they buy a broken console i shouldnt be surprised by now??

Syferonik

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

[QUOTE="Syferonik"]Not even 3.5 more like 3.2 lol wtf its not even running at 720p...what kind of fail is this?

PS3Breeder

MGS4 doesn't run at 720p native. Neither does COD4. Tons of big AAA titles don't. That doesn't mean anything. This is drastically different in its gameplay structure, look, and feel than any previous Halo, so the 3.whatever argument doesn't hold any water whatsoever.

dont know much about mgs4 but i do know halo 3 is at 540p and cod 4 is about the same not sure the exact number

most games are not really done in 720p or 1080p they just get converted by the system so the game devs like to slap the 720p/1080p on the back of the box but they should put that its upconverted

lol at PS3 fanboys coming in here trying to put ODST down :lol: Juggernaut140

:lol: What else can they do? It's not like they actually get to enjoy the game.

This is looking damn good, easily AAA stuff. Firefight will be even better than Horde.Floppy_Jim

I'd get this, but i don't have an xbox. haha, jokes on you bungie!!! :lol:

...oh wait :(

this game looks amazing, especially firefight mode, I gotta say I hated Halo 3 but I Think this game will be amazing!

This is kinda random but i hope it has a lot of hunters in it, I love fighting them and Halo 3 had a really dissapointing lack of them in there (I believe you only fought them twice in the whole game.)

At the end of the article, they said Reach would be their last title with Halo and then they'll focus on their new IP... interesting.

[QUOTE="Juggernaut140"]lol at PS3 fanboys coming in here trying to put ODST down :lol: EndorphinMaster

:lol: What else can they do? It's not like they actually get to enjoy the game.

thats funny its like when xbox360 fanboys are on ps3 threats bashing sony while all their great xbox360 games are collection dust cause they have to wait to get their 360 back from ms that was sent in for RROD repair issue

just kidding there is no reason for sony fanboys to bash halo odts its impossible i dont know how someone can talk about a game thats not even out yet when its out people can play it and give their own opinions but but for now u cant say it going to be good or bad

oh and i do have plenty of games that i enjoy on my ps3 (killzone2, uncharted, infamous & my multi plat that i buy on ps3 to play online for free)

last year i was having fun with my xbox360 games (cod 4 and nba 2k) until i lost xbox live

Halo ODST looks like a better Halo game.

Come on, look at the title of the game:

Halo: Orbital Drop Shock Troopers.

If Master Chief isn't the main character, then the game is bound to be better than it's predecessors.

Shad0ki11

Agreed. It does look pretty interesting indeed.

I beat Killzone 2 in 6 hours. I beat Gears 1 and 2 in 6 hours. I beat R2 in 6 hours.

Those are considered "full games", are they not?

BioShockOwnz

fair point but they referred to it as an expansion themselves, and it has a halo 3 prefix

looks very cool though

[QUOTE="Syferonik"]

[QUOTE="Syn_Valence"]

Blah halo 3.5 confirmed just shows how much effort 360 developers put into games................which is none..........this looks like halo 3 but with new characters......but again they buy a broken console i shouldnt be surprised by now??

jakehouston88

A BIG 1

and next year they will be more prod of Reach...Giancar

good point. But maybe they really do have passion for their games

Haha way to spin their earlier comments on how they didn't see Halo ODST being a 60 dollar game.

I dont get cows, Heavenly Sword was 5 hours, and they didnt have a problem paying 60bucks for the game, yet ODST has a 6-8hr SP, and MP and its not worth it? THE MILKAGE!!!!!!!

I dont get cows, Heavenly Sword was 5 hours, and they didnt have a problem paying 60bucks for the game, yet ODST has a 6-8hr SP, and MP and its not worth it? THE MILKAGE!!!!!!!

Fizzman

Halo that is finally a bit more darker/Mature, with finally some exploration in it for the singleplayer story mode. This could be very very good.

And Halo3's still one of hte better onlien shooters this gen, so cant really knock this game, even though I dont play alot of Halo3 online.

9.0/10 I am guessing.

Could be the first Halo game that I actually REALLY like the singleplayer on.

I dont get cows, Heavenly Sword was 5 hours, and they didnt have a problem paying 60bucks for the game, yet ODST has a 6-8hr SP, and MP and its not worth it? THE MILKAGE!!!!!!!

Fizzman

That wasn't Heavenly Swords Estimated time, that's how long you and me took, but not everyone.

We have yet to see how LONG this Halo Expansion is, but I beat Halo 3 around the same time as Heavenly Sword (Both games were short), and Halo ODST is much shorter.
So, the question is how long is HALO ODST? We'll find out.

You can't point at one game that's short, and say Haha, when we can't even compare the other game, as it's not out. I'm sure I will beat Halo ODST in a few hours, maybe 4 hours if I'm lucky and it's longer, but most likely it's going to be a 2-3 hour adventure for me and others.

Also, I wouldn't just blame Cows, it's all Halo Haters in here alike, even 360 owners.

It amazes me how insecure Halo makes some people. Endless amount of Halo bash threads from PS3 fans and alt accounts the past couple weeks. Well really there always has been a ton but seems they have stepped up their Halo bashing. rybe1025

It is quite amazing. You know you're quite successful when the minority have to speak so loudly against it. It's teh kiddie. It's teh milkage. It's teh weak sub-hd resolutions. Dear god almighty.

[QUOTE="Fizzman"]

I dont get cows, Heavenly Sword was 5 hours, and they didnt have a problem paying 60bucks for the game, yet ODST has a 6-8hr SP, and MP and its not worth it? THE MILKAGE!!!!!!!

SolidTy

That wasn't Heavenly Swords Estimated time, that's how long you and me took, but not everyone.

We have yet to see how LONG this Halo Expansion is, but I beat Halo 3 around the same time as Heavenly Sword (Both games were short), and Halo ODST is much shorter.
So, the question is how long is HALO ODST? We'll find out.

You can't point at one game that's short, and say Haha, when we can't even compare the other game, as it's not out. I'm sure I will beat Halo ODST in a few hours, maybe 4 hours if I'm lucky and it's longer, but most likely it's going to be a 2-3 hour adventure for me and others.

Also, I wouldn't just blame Cows, it's all Halo Haters in here alike, even 360 owners.

It actually took me about 4 hours and 15 minutes to beat Heavenly Sword. I was actually rounding up for the few casuals who played it and took longer.

Halo 3 was around 8 for me, going at about the same pace.

Also, you said "we'll find out" how long it is? Doesn't that contradict your statement about the other games and how long it takes you compared to others? There is no definitive answer for how long a game lasts, but you can surely round it, which I did with Heavenly Sword so that you can give or take a little.

Also, ODST is about exploration and actually more like BioShock inthe sense of discovery, so if you can apply your earlier argument to any game, then it'd be ODST, as some of us will discover all there is to be found and get hours and hours out of it.

Blah halo 3.5 confirmed just shows how much effort 360 developers put into games................which is none..........this looks like halo 3 but with new characters......but again they buy a broken console i shouldnt be surprised by now??

Syn_Valence

[QUOTE="Z0MBIES"]This game just isn't interesting me.BioShockOwnz

It's really the first Halo since Combat Evolved that has me squealing like a pig with excitement.

The legislature can call a tomato a vegetable all they want, its still a fruit. This game is an expansion.Vandalvideo

The legislature never called a tomato a vegetable, it was the consumers who ignorantly thought so.

Because a tomato is put on savoury food, people keep mistaking it for a vegetable.

Likewise, because Halo: ODST is on the Halo 3 engine, people keep mistaking it for an expansion.

Oh snap I beat you back with your own analogy.

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]The legislature can call a tomato a vegetable all they want, its still a fruit. This game is an expansion.FrozenLiquid

The legislature never called a tomato a vegetable, it was the consumers who ignorantly thought so.

Because a tomato is put on savoury food, people keep mistaking it for a vegetable.

Likewise, because Halo: ODST is on the Halo 3 engine, people keep mistaking it for an expansion.

Oh snap I beat you back with your own analogy.

[QUOTE="Fizzman"]

I dont get cows, Heavenly Sword was 5 hours, and they didnt have a problem paying 60bucks for the game, yet ODST has a 6-8hr SP, and MP and its not worth it? THE MILKAGE!!!!!!!

SolidTy

That wasn't Heavenly Swords Estimated time, that's how long you and me took, but not everyone.

We have yet to see how LONG this Halo Expansion is, but I beat Halo 3 around the same time as Heavenly Sword (Both games were short), and Halo ODST is much shorter.
So, the question is how long is HALO ODST? We'll find out.

You can't point at one game that's short, and say Haha, when we can't even compare the other game, as it's not out. I'm sure I will beat Halo ODST in a few hours, maybe 4 hours if I'm lucky and it's longer, but most likely it's going to be a 2-3 hour adventure for me and others.

Also, I wouldn't just blame Cows, it's all Halo Haters in here alike, even 360 owners.

HS was just a short game, once you beat it what could you do? Replay the single player? Same could be said about a lot of games so that's nothing special if that.

ODST will have a campaign which will be less linear than Halo 3, a multiplayer co op mode (firefight), and Halo 3 online with all maps/DLC (cool if you didn't have the maps already)

Take into the fact that the actual name is Halo 3: ODST.aaronmullan

That's exactly the problem.

What if Bungie never called it an expansion? Say they had exactly the same elements they have now, but from the outset called it a brand new game. Same engine, you say? Gears 2 uses the same engine. Same multiplayer? Hey, Firefight's the new multiplayer, Halo 3's multiplayer just comes as an added bonus. Imagine if they marketed it like that.I don't think anyone would be arguing then.

I totally understand that in the beginning ODST was meant to be an expansion. It would seem that it has gotten much bigger since inception, though.

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Why is the game called Halo 3: ODST anyway? It should be called Halo 2: ODST.

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]The legislature can call a tomato a vegetable all they want, its still a fruit. This game is an expansion.FrozenLiquid

The legislature never called a tomato a vegetable, it was the consumers who ignorantly thought so.

Because a tomato is put on savoury food, people keep mistaking it for a vegetable.

Likewise, because Halo: ODST is on the Halo 3 engine, people keep mistaking it for an expansion.

Oh snap I beat you back with your own analogy.

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

[QUOTE="Z0MBIES"]This game just isn't interesting me.hy4k

It's really the first Halo since Combat Evolved that has me squealing like a pig with excitement.

What if the single player campaign is 10 hours long? Bang! Full game right there! Saying otherwise is calling many other games expansions aswell, right?

[QUOTE="aaronmullan"]Take into the fact that the actual name is Halo 3: ODST.FrozenLiquid

That's exactly the problem.

What if Bungie never called it an expansion? Say they had exactly the same elements they have now, but from the outset called it a brand new game. Same engine, you say? Gears 2 uses the same engine. Same multiplayer? Hey, Firefight's the new multiplayer, Halo 3's multiplayer just comes as an added bonus. Imagine if they marketed it like that.I don't think anyone would be arguing then.

I totally understand that in the beginning ODST was meant to be an expansion. It would seem that it has gotten much bigger since inception, though.

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Why is the game called Halo 3: ODST anyway? It should be called Halo 2: ODST.

[QUOTE="-Pred-Alien-"]

And the Cows are out in full force, the 360 is always bashed, same thing happens to the PS3 and its quickly swept under the carpet...

druggyjoe3000

Oh hype of halo 3odst:AA

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

[QUOTE="Fizzman"]

I dont get cows, Heavenly Sword was 5 hours, and they didnt have a problem paying 60bucks for the game, yet ODST has a 6-8hr SP, and MP and its not worth it? THE MILKAGE!!!!!!!

BioShockOwnz

That wasn't Heavenly Swords Estimated time, that's how long you and me took, but not everyone.

We have yet to see how LONG this Halo Expansion is, but I beat Halo 3 around the same time as Heavenly Sword (Both games were short), and Halo ODST is much shorter.
So, the question is how long is HALO ODST? We'll find out.

You can't point at one game that's short, and say Haha, when we can't even compare the other game, as it's not out. I'm sure I will beat Halo ODST in a few hours, maybe 4 hours if I'm lucky and it's longer, but most likely it's going to be a 2-3 hour adventure for me and others.

Also, I wouldn't just blame Cows, it's all Halo Haters in here alike, even 360 owners.

It actually took me about 4 hours and 15 minutes to beat Heavenly Sword. I was actually rounding up for the few casuals who played it and took longer.

Halo 3 was around 8 for me, going at about the same pace.

Also, you said "we'll find out" how long it is? Doesn't that contradict your statement about the other games and how long it takes you compared to others? There is no definitive answer for how long a game lasts, but you can surely round it, which I did with Heavenly Sword so that you can give or take a little.

Also, ODST is about exploration and actually more like BioShock inthe sense of discovery, so if you can apply your earlier argument to any game, then it'd be ODST, as some of us will discover all there is to be found and get hours and hours out of it.

No, it doesn't contradict, because none of us have played HALO ODST, so comparing it to games we played in the past makes little sense. You can round PAST games you played, but you can't do that for HALO ODST, again, because it's not out yet. It's kinda pointless to compare HALO ODST to Braid or any game, as we haven't played it.

As far as exploration goes, Halo had that, but when you think about it, was exploring fun in Halo? Was walking around in giant environs that great? Was the Library a great level? Well, that's all up to the users, but judging from Halo's success, maybe exploration is a great theme for HALO ODST, at minimum, it will make the expansion seem longer, eh?

I'm sure many willl get hours and hours out of it though, sure. I know guys that have logged in over 100 hours into MGS4 Single Player, so I agree with that.

That being said, Fizzman was directly comparing Halo ODST to Heavenly Sword, and as I said to him, Halo ODST isn't out, so no point comparing the length of any game to it yet.

Fizzman also is assuming it's Cows doing it, when I see sheep, Hermits, Lemmings, and Cows all talk about Halo, again, assuming Halo Hate is only a cow thing. I was correcting those two falsehoods in his statement.

I start every Halo game since 2001, on Heroic difficulty, unless Legendary is unlocked from the get go, so I do try to make it longer than it should be.I doubt many users play games on the hardest settings, like Heavenly Sword for example, but that's beside the point.

Blah halo 3.5 confirmed just shows how much effort 360 developers put into games................which is none..........this looks like halo 3 but with new characters......but again they buy a broken console i shouldnt be surprised by now??

Syn_Valence

EDIT: BTW KZ2's campaign was about 8 hours or maybe you didnt play that...or you played it and took your sweet ass time playing through the campaign. i do remember there being NUMEROUS complaints about that campaign being short...

That wasn't Heavenly Swords Estimated time, that's how long you and me took, but not everyone.

We have yet to see how LONG this Halo Expansion is, but I beat Halo 3 around the same time as Heavenly Sword (Both games were short), and Halo ODST is much shorter.
So, the question is how long is HALO ODST? We'll find out.

You can't point at one game that's short, and say Haha, when we can't even compare the other game, as it's not out. I'm sure I will beat Halo ODST in a few hours, maybe 4 hours if I'm lucky and it's longer, but most likely it's going to be a 2-3 hour adventure for me and others.

Also, I wouldn't just blame Cows, it's all Halo Haters in here alike, even 360 owners.

SolidTy

I hate the difficulty argument, but really, play on a harder difficulty level.

Unless you're a Halo pro playing several hours every day 7 days a week, I doubt you're finishing Halo's levels under 40-50 minutes on average on Heroic. Normal is not the difficulty for anyone in System Wars. That difficulty is for casuals. I do not understand why reviewers blaze through the campaigns on a difficulty beneath their skill level and then complain about the length.

It took me about 10 hours to complete Halo 3 on Heroic, and several hours longer on Legendary. I had my fill. My sister and little brother took the same time on Normal co-op, because they don't even play shooting games.

Likewise, it took me about 20 hours (I believe it was the estimated time?) to play through Half-Life 2 on a difficulty that was suitable for me. I know others did it in just over half that time because they put it on normal and raced through it.

Nevertheless, games really are getting shorter. 20 hours use to be the length for quite a bit of shooters back in the day. HD graphics killed length.