**Official** 360 beats PS3 in 2011 SALES

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#1 gigantuouse
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Sony earning came out, Xbox wins by 800k.

http://www.vgchartz.com/article/88773/sony-ships-65m-ps3s-in-q4-11-to-lose-29b-in-fy-lowers-ps3-fcst/

Sony only sold 6.5m in the 4th quarter. Dissapointing for Sony, they expected more.

360 14.90m in 2011

PS3 14.10m in 2011

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#2 gamebreakerz__
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Actually your own beloved VGchartz lists the PS3 sold more in 2011. Look to the right hand side in global unit sales: http://www.vgchartz.com/yearly/2011/Global/
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#3 phonemug
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Holy smokes :lol:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=461642

Sony reports 2 billion dollar loss in ONE fiscal quarter

Sony is Done! :lol:

I give them 9 months.

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#4 dream431ca
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YAY SALES!! But where's the games? And where is the link?

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The PS3 was actually the highest selling console worldwide in 2011.
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#6 gigantuouse
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updated with link

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updated with link

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:lol: VGChartz
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#9 KevinButlerVP
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VGChartz has no credibility here, in case you were wondering
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#10 gamebreakerz__
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Link

Holy smokes :lol:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=461642

Sony reports 2 billion dollar loss.

Sony is DDDDDDDDDOOOOOOMMMMEED

I give them 9 months.

phonemug
Just because they lost $2 billion doesn't mean they are doomed. I assure you their assets are in the region of the tens of billions of $.
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Sales are the single most important thing to me as a gamer.

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#12 phonemug
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:lol: VGChartzcharizard1605
The numbers they are reporting are from the same financial Sony earnings report up on Neogaf and will be up all over the web.

I'm not keeping track of worldwide sales myself but another 2 billion dollar blow to Sony is devastating.

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#13 phonemug
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[QUOTE="phonemug"]

Link

Holy smokes :lol:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=461642

Sony reports 2 billion dollar loss.

Sony is DDDDDDDDDOOOOOOMMMMEED

I give them 9 months.

gamebreakerz__

Just because they lost $2 billion doesn't mean they are doomed. I assure you their assets are in the region of the tens of billions of $.

Actually their networth is 18 billion.... in the year 2000 it was 100 billion. That's how far they have fallen.

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[QUOTE="charizard1605"]:lol: VGChartzphonemug

The numbers they are reporting are from the same financial Sony earnings report up on Neogaf and will be up all over the web.

I'm not keeping track of worldwide sales myself but another 2 billion dollar blow to Sony is devastating.

Sony made an awful loss, yes. No questions about that. However, the thread is about sales, which the PS3 led for 2011 worldwide.
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#15 phonemug
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The PS3 was actually the highest selling console worldwide in 2011.charizard1605
Charizard.

You're wrong on this one.

Neogaf is reporting the same .8 million victory for 360.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=461642

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#16 gigantuouse
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This website is absurd. Everytime I try to link Sony directly it gives me errors. I am just going to leave it as it is, the numbers remain true.

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[QUOTE="phonemug"]

Link

Holy smokes :lol:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=461642

Sony reports 2 billion dollar loss.

Sony is DDDDDDDDDOOOOOOMMMMEED

I give them 9 months.

gamebreakerz__
Just because they lost $2 billion doesn't mean they are doomed. I assure you their assets are in the region of the tens of billions of $.

assets mean nothing if nobody wants to buy them, SONY is currently 13.20 billion in debt with a market cap of 18.26 billion and there enterprise value is only 23.91 billion,there credit rating has been downgraded to 'BBB' which is one level above junk and they just posted there 4th annual consecutive loss despite selling there stake in LCD panels to samsung, i agree that they are not doomed yet but if things don't turn around they could be in a few years time, hopefully Kaz czn turn the company around, appointing him head of SONY was probaly the wisest move they have made in a long time.
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"]The PS3 was actually the highest selling console worldwide in 2011.phonemug

Charizard.

You're wrong on this one.

Neogaf is reporting the same .8 million victory for 360.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=461642

Okay, I see the PS3 numbers. Will you please link me to the Xbox numbers too? I could have sworn I saw a thread that said PS3 sold more...
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This website is absurd. Everytime I try to link Sony directly it gives me errors. I am just going to leave it as it is, the numbers remain true.

gigantuouse
it's because sony website has "style" in it which is a censored word.
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[QUOTE="gamebreakerz__"][QUOTE="phonemug"]

Link

Holy smokes :lol:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=461642

Sony reports 2 billion dollar loss.

Sony is DDDDDDDDDOOOOOOMMMMEED

I give them 9 months.

delta3074

Just because they lost $2 billion doesn't mean they are doomed. I assure you their assets are in the region of the tens of billions of $.

assets mean nothing if nobody wants to buy them, SONY is currently 13.20 billion in debt with a market cap of 18.26 billion and there enterprise value is only 23.91 billion,there credit rating has been downgraded to 'BBB' which is one level above junk and they just posted there 4th annual consecutive loss despite selling there stake in LCD panels to samsung, i agree that they are not doomed yet but if things don't turn around they could be in a few years time, hopefully Kaz czn turn the company around, appointing him head of SONY was probaly the wisest move they have made in a long time.

Just so you know they made ALOT of acquisitions. In fact worth$8.4 billion

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#21 Mattizzle815
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Have fun playing your sales. oh wait.... you can't.....

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#22 gigantuouse
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[QUOTE="phonemug"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"]The PS3 was actually the highest selling console worldwide in 2011.charizard1605

Charizard.

You're wrong on this one.

Neogaf is reporting the same .8 million victory for 360.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=461642

Okay, I see the PS3 numbers. Will you please link me to the Xbox numbers too? I could have sworn I saw a thread that said PS3 sold more...

You did see those threads, they started popping up all over when Cows decided they won. It really wasn't based on anything other than arrogance.

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[QUOTE="themajormayor"][QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="gamebreakerz__"] Just because they lost $2 billion doesn't mean they are doomed. I assure you their assets are in the region of the tens of billions of $.

assets mean nothing if nobody wants to buy them, SONY is currently 13.20 billion in debt with a market cap of 18.26 billion and there enterprise value is only 23.91 billion,there credit rating has been downgraded to 'BBB' which is one level above junk and they just posted there 4th annual consecutive loss despite selling there stake in LCD panels to samsung, i agree that they are not doomed yet but if things don't turn around they could be in a few years time, hopefully Kaz czn turn the company around, appointing him head of SONY was probaly the wisest move they have made in a long time.

Just so you know they made ALOT of acquisitions

8.4 billion in aquisistions to bolster there ailing mobile phone and music divisions and introduce tablet computers in an attempt to take on Apple, they are going to lose against Apple and samsung in the tablets market and they will get killed by samsung and HTC in the mobile phone market, waste of money oif you ask me.
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[QUOTE="themajormayor"][QUOTE="delta3074"]assets mean nothing if nobody wants to buy them, SONY is currently 13.20 billion in debt with a market cap of 18.26 billion and there enterprise value is only 23.91 billion,there credit rating has been downgraded to 'BBB' which is one level above junk and they just posted there 4th annual consecutive loss despite selling there stake in LCD panels to samsung, i agree that they are not doomed yet but if things don't turn around they could be in a few years time, hopefully Kaz czn turn the company around, appointing him head of SONY was probaly the wisest move they have made in a long time.delta3074
Just so you know they made ALOT of acquisitions

8.4 billion in aquisistions to bolster there ailing mobile phone and music divisions and introduce tablet computers in an attempt to take on Apple, they are going to lose against Apple and samsung in the tablets market and they will get killed by samsung and HTC in the mobile phone market, waste of money oif you ask me.

Yeah. But that's why they have losses despite despite selling there stake in LCD panels. Just saying.
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15% or 10% not satisfied on 360...now planning to buy ps3 in near future

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15% or 10% not satisfied on 360...now planning to buy ps3 in near future

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God bless you.

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#27 delta3074
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[QUOTE="themajormayor"][QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="themajormayor"] Just so you know they made ALOT of acquisitions

8.4 billion in aquisistions to bolster there ailing mobile phone and music divisions and introduce tablet computers in an attempt to take on Apple, they are going to lose against Apple and samsung in the tablets market and they will get killed by samsung and HTC in the mobile phone market, waste of money oif you ask me.

Yeah. But that's why they have losses despite despite selling there stake in LCD panels. Just saying.

no, they also have losses bacause they are losing money like there is no tommorw in there TV division, you can spin it all you like 13.20 billion debt-8.4 billion=5.16 billion losses which have nothing to do with aquisitions, trying to take on Apple in the tablet market is as stupid as trying to take on nintendo in the handheld market and it's because of making bad decisions like that that they are in the position they are in now, bolstering there music division is the only decent decision they have made and only if they if they lose BMG and do it right, the playstation Brand is safe, that division is making profit and provided they downsize and restructure other divisions they could weather the storm, but with europe heading into a second recession which will push the strength of the Yen up even further, things are not looking good. Also, lower credit rating means borrowing money will be at higher interest rates.
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[QUOTE="themajormayor"][QUOTE="delta3074"]8.4 billion in aquisistions to bolster there ailing mobile phone and music divisions and introduce tablet computers in an attempt to take on Apple, they are going to lose against Apple and samsung in the tablets market and they will get killed by samsung and HTC in the mobile phone market, waste of money oif you ask me.delta3074
Yeah. But that's why they have losses despite despite selling there stake in LCD panels. Just saying.

no, they also have losses bacause they are losing money like there is no tommorw in there TV division, you can spin it all you like 13.20 billion debt-8.4 billion=5.16 billion losses which have nothing to do with aquisitions, trying to take on Apple in the tablet market is as stupid as trying to take on nintendo in the handheld market and it's because of making bad decisions like that that they are in the position they are in now, bolstering there music division is the only decent decision they have made and only if they if they lose BMG and do it right, the playstation Brand is safe, that division is making profit and provided they downsize and restructure other divisions they could weather the storm, but with europe heading into a second recession which will push the strength of the Yen up even further, things are not looking good.

Hey nothing wrong with going into the handheld market. PSP was a success and PSVita will probably too.
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Actually your own beloved VGchartz lists the PS3 sold more in 2011. Look to the right hand side in global unit sales: http://www.vgchartz.com/yearly/2011/Global/
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[This message was deleted at the request of the original poster]CanYouDiglt

http://www.vgchartz.com/yearly/2011/Global/

http://www.vgchartz.com/yearly/2011/Global/

http://www.vgchartz.com/yearly/2011/Global/

http://www.vgchartz.com/yearly/2011/Global/

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Ahahahahah canyoudigit you p*ssy

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[QUOTE="themajormayor"][QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="themajormayor"] Yeah. But that's why they have losses despite despite selling there stake in LCD panels. Just saying.

no, they also have losses bacause they are losing money like there is no tommorw in there TV division, you can spin it all you like 13.20 billion debt-8.4 billion=5.16 billion losses which have nothing to do with aquisitions, trying to take on Apple in the tablet market is as stupid as trying to take on nintendo in the handheld market and it's because of making bad decisions like that that they are in the position they are in now, bolstering there music division is the only decent decision they have made and only if they if they lose BMG and do it right, the playstation Brand is safe, that division is making profit and provided they downsize and restructure other divisions they could weather the storm, but with europe heading into a second recession which will push the strength of the Yen up even further, things are not looking good.

Hey nothing wrong with going into the handheld market. PSP was a success and PSVita will probably too.

i hope so, i plan on getting a Vita myself provided i can play playstation games like fear effect 2,nedieval, FF7,FF8,syndicate wars,diablo, abe games and MGS on it, playing them on my droid with touch screen controls is no fun and the Pss1 is my Fave console of all time.
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[QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"][This message was deleted at the request of the original poster]themajormayor

http://www.vgchartz.com/yearly/2011/Global/

http://www.vgchartz.com/yearly/2011/Global/

http://www.vgchartz.com/yearly/2011/Global/

http://www.vgchartz.com/yearly/2011/Global/

Yep, 360 won by a good margin.
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[QUOTE="themajormayor"][QUOTE="delta3074"]no, they also have losses bacause they are losing money like there is no tommorw in there TV division, you can spin it all you like 13.20 billion debt-8.4 billion=5.16 billion losses which have nothing to do with aquisitions, trying to take on Apple in the tablet market is as stupid as trying to take on nintendo in the handheld market and it's because of making bad decisions like that that they are in the position they are in now, bolstering there music division is the only decent decision they have made and only if they if they lose BMG and do it right, the playstation Brand is safe, that division is making profit and provided they downsize and restructure other divisions they could weather the storm, but with europe heading into a second recession which will push the strength of the Yen up even further, things are not looking good.delta3074
Hey nothing wrong with going into the handheld market. PSP was a success and PSVita will probably too.

i hope so, i plan on getting a Vita myself provided i can play playstation games like fear effect 2,nedieval, FF7,FF8,syndicate wars,diablo, abe games and MGS on it, playing them on my droid with touch screen controls is no fun and the Pss1 is my Fave console of all time.

I'm not interested in handhelds but so far I must say vita looks terrific and is very tempting
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[QUOTE="themajormayor"]

[QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"][This message was deleted at the request of the original poster]superclocked

http://www.vgchartz.com/yearly/2011/Global/

http://www.vgchartz.com/yearly/2011/Global/

http://www.vgchartz.com/yearly/2011/Global/

http://www.vgchartz.com/yearly/2011/Global/

Yep, 360 won by a good margin.

Not in hardware which the thread is about
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[QUOTE="superclocked"][QUOTE="themajormayor"]

http://www.vgchartz.com/yearly/2011/Global/

http://www.vgchartz.com/yearly/2011/Global/

http://www.vgchartz.com/yearly/2011/Global/

http://www.vgchartz.com/yearly/2011/Global/

themajormayor
Yep, 360 won by a good margin.

Not in hardware which the thread is about

Nope, 360 won.
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[QUOTE="themajormayor"][QUOTE="superclocked"]Yep, 360 won by a good margin.superclocked
Not in hardware which the thread is about

Nope, 360 won.

??
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[QUOTE="gamebreakerz__"]Actually your own beloved VGchartz lists the PS3 sold more in 2011. Look to the right hand side in global unit sales: http://www.vgchartz.com/yearly/2011/Global/

you hypocrite! you said VG chartz had no credibility earlier in the thread, nice edit to cover it up,lol
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#41 LazySloth718
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PS3 sold more.

TC is fraudulent.

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#42 superclocked
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[QUOTE="themajormayor"][QUOTE="superclocked"][QUOTE="themajormayor"] Not in hardware which the thread is about

Nope, 360 won.

??

lol, just jokin' man.. I could care less who won really. I'm just bored as hell...
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The thread title is a fallacy. The ps3 sold more according to vgchartz
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#44 delta3074
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Not in hardware which the thread is aboutthemajormayor
depends who you believe, Neogaf has the Ps3 at only 12 million sold last year http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=461642.
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#45 CanYouDiglt
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Well we need to find out for sure so I can laugh at cows or tell them congrats because right now I am not sure who sold more.
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#46 delta3074
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The thread title is a fallacy. The ps3 sold more according to vgchartzAndrovinus
360 sold more according to neogaf though, there a big disparity between the numbers and neogafs is based on SONY financial announcement.
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#47 phonemug
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Cows in this thread are seriously confused

1. TC posts link to VGchartz updated numbers in article after Sony posted it's financial report a couple hours ago

2. Cows say "VG chartz lol lol"

3. Cow goes and looks VG Chartz sales stats that don't yet include the new info and say "OMG TC owned VG chartz is right now"

360 won the year by .8 million

confirmed at Neogaf

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=461642

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Cows in this thread are seriously confused

1. TC posts link to VGchartz updated numbers in article after Sony posted it's financial report a couple hours ago

2. Cows say "VG chartz lol lol"

3. Cow goes and looks VG Chartz sales stats that don't yet include the new info and say "OMG TC owned VG chartz is right now"

360 won the year by .8 million

confirmed at Neogaf

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=461642

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Could you please link me to 360 numbers as well?
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PS3 sold more

360 = dead platform