**Official** 360 beats PS3 in 2011 SALES

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#102 phonemug
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Do you Cows realize how crazy it is for one company to lose 2 billion dollars in ONE quarter?

Do you not see what's happening at Sony? How management just changed today. Things are going down.

It's done kiddo's Sony is spiraling into the side of mountain.

Eject!

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#103 delta3074
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[QUOTE="phonemug"]

This is the last of Sony

Their last console.

It's even prophesised in their own games.

Their last two large funded games.

And the second of the two there is already sketchy circumstances of its release.

They may both be vaporware.

rumbalumba

the epitome of ignorance.

do you people think Sony starts at 0 and then loses money and get debts? their assets and market value alone are in the tens of billions. let's say their assets are $8 billion for the Playstation brand now they lose $2 billion this year, does that make them go under?

use your brains.

wrong , Sonys market cap is only 18 billion, there market value is 23 billion and they are 13.2 billion in debt, they just posted there 4th consecutive annual loss, there credit rating has been downgraded to BBB (one level above junk) and they have lost 82 billion of there market value since 2000, they are in trouble,big trouble, personally i don't think they are doomed but you should actually do your research before calling other people ignorant because you are also failing to factor in investor confidence, if SONY keeps losing money there is every chance a few years down the line that there creditors and investors will pull the plug and SONY will become insolvent, yes they have alot of assets to sell but those assets are useless if nobody wants to buy them.
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#104 gamebreakerz__
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[QUOTE="gamebreakerz__"][QUOTE="sts106mat"] it matters not. It may be a valid argument, but just as 360 sells way better in america than it does in japan. funny cows will remind us of "but worldwide" every time the NPD numbers come out. now the worldwide numbers show a different story, so they will be saying "well on average....." its crap and you know it.phonemug

I'm not a cow, I never claimed more sales worldwide, I didn't know anything at all to do with the sales numbers last year until I read this thread. From an objective standpoint the 360 has sold more, but the PS3 has sold at a faster rate, and will most likely eclipse the 360 by the end of this console generation.

How is the PS3 selling at a faster rate if 360 just outsold it in 2011? :|

Overall, dumbass. If the PS3 sold more in the last 20 minutes than the 360 could cows claim ownage? No. OVERALL SALES NUMBERS, AVERAGED OVER THE NUMBER OF YEARS ON THE MARKET. That easy enough to understand?
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#105 gamebreakerz__
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Do you Cows realize how crazy it is for one company to lose 2 billion dollars in ONE quarter?

Do you not see what's happening at Sony? How management just changed today. Things are going down.

It's done kiddo's Sony is spiraling into the side of mountain.

Eject!

phonemug
I'm not sure why you're so pleased at the potential of tens of thousands of jobs being lost and serious damages occurring to the country of Japan :|
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#106 phonemug
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[QUOTE="phonemug"]

[QUOTE="gamebreakerz__"] I'm not a cow, I never claimed more sales worldwide, I didn't know anything at all to do with the sales numbers last year until I read this thread. From an objective standpoint the 360 has sold more, but the PS3 has sold at a faster rate, and will most likely eclipse the 360 by the end of this console generation.gamebreakerz__

How is the PS3 selling at a faster rate if 360 just outsold it in 2011? :|

Overall, dumbass. If the PS3 sold more in the last 20 minutes than the 360 could cows claim ownage? No. OVERALL SALES NUMBERS, AVERAGED OVER THE NUMBER OF YEARS ON THE MARKET. That easy enough to understand?

Average all you want but 360 has completely ruined any momentum PS3 had and it's sales are getting progressively better. In 2012 it will outsell it at an even greater margin if the trend continues and be even further ahead.

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#107 delta3074
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[QUOTE="rumbalumba"]

[QUOTE="phonemug"]

This is the last of Sony

Their last console.

It's even prophesised in their own games.

Their last two large funded games.

And the second of the two there is already sketchy circumstances of its release.

They may both be vaporware.

sts106mat

the epitome of ignorance.

do you people think Sony starts at 0 and then loses money and get debts? their assets and market value alone are in the tens of billions. let's say their assets are $8 billion for the Playstation brand now they lose $2 billion this year, does that make them go under?

use your brains.

assets are no good if no-one wants them. Delta3074 will remember this one!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ratners

Gerald Ratner, a previous CEO, made possibly the most famous gaffe in twentieth century British business when he explained to a major business conference that the reason why one of his products was so cheap was that it was "total crap". He then went on to unfavourably compare some of the company's earrings with a 99p prawn sandwich. His remarks were gleefully reported by the media, The company lost over 500 million pounds off its share price and consumers subsequently avoided the Ratner branded stores, nearly 300 of which were closed between January 1992 and May 1994 as the group went through a financial restructuring. Ratner resigned in November 1992 and the group changed its name to Signet Group plc in September 1993.

that was trippy, i laughed my face off when that happened, one guy makes one silly comment and it nearly bought down an entire corperation, dude should have left his honesty at home that day, peter molyneux made the same mistake when talking unfavourably about Fable as well, fortunately it didn't cost him as much,lol
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#108 phonemug
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[QUOTE="phonemug"]

Do you Cows realize how crazy it is for one company to lose 2 billion dollars in ONE quarter?

Do you not see what's happening at Sony? How management just changed today. Things are going down.

It's done kiddo's Sony is spiraling into the side of mountain.

Eject!

gamebreakerz__

I'm not sure why you're so pleased at the potential of tens of thousands of jobs being lost and serious damages occurring to the country of Japan :|

Those people deserve better than to work at Sony.

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#109 gamebreakerz__
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[QUOTE="gamebreakerz__"][QUOTE="phonemug"]

Do you Cows realize how crazy it is for one company to lose 2 billion dollars in ONE quarter?

Do you not see what's happening at Sony? How management just changed today. Things are going down.

It's done kiddo's Sony is spiraling into the side of mountain.

Eject!

phonemug

I'm not sure why you're so pleased at the potential of tens of thousands of jobs being lost and serious damages occurring to the country of Japan :|

Those people deserve better than to work at Sony.

They will not have jobs. At all. Pledging your allegiance to a company that doesn't really care about you at all is quite laughable to be honest. They would screw you over completely if it meant they could get $10 more out of you. Wake up.
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#111 gamebreakerz__
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[QUOTE="gamebreakerz__"][QUOTE="phonemug"]How is the PS3 selling at a faster rate if 360 just outsold it in 2011? :|

phonemug

Overall, dumbass. If the PS3 sold more in the last 20 minutes than the 360 could cows claim ownage? No. OVERALL SALES NUMBERS, AVERAGED OVER THE NUMBER OF YEARS ON THE MARKET. That easy enough to understand?

Average all you want but 360 has completely ruined any momentum PS3 had and it's sales are getting progressively better. In 2012 it will outsell it at an even greater margin if the trend continues and be even further ahead.

You have to look at it from more than a numbers perspective. The reason 360 sold so well was most likely the massive Kinect marketing campaign, and fair enough they did it well. But the question is can the Kinect sustain it's appeal? And also, it seems extremely likely the Nextbox will release before the PS4, giving the PS3 extra time to make up sales, which it probably will.
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crazy wasn't it, those shops were on every high street. I must admit, i thought they had gone the way of the dodo, i did not realise the business was still going, all be it without him and a name change lol..sts106mat
never heard of signet though, how the mighty have fallen, i wonder if 20 years down the line people will be saying the same thing about Sony? 'SONY,who are thay?' crazy thought huh.
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#115 CanYouDiglt
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I expect the next few weeks to be even worse for Sony fans. NPD coming up and no one can say duh NPD=/= worldwide or 360 only sells in America. Also even more doom threads with Sony announcing over $2 billion loss. The PS3 sold less in 2011 then in 2010 but the 360 increased year to year sales. Sony missed their glorious 15 million by the end of the year mark. This report from Sony was just bad all around for the cows on here.
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You have to look at it from more than a numbers perspective. The reason 360 sold so well was most likely the massive Kinect marketing campaign, and fair enough they did it well. But the question is can the Kinect sustain it's appeal? And also, it seems extremely likely the Nextbox will release before the PS4, giving the PS3 extra time to make up sales, which it probably will.gamebreakerz__

i smell bs...are you a cow in disguise? you won't be able to hide underground for long if you keep letting that sense of pride get in the way. let it go. there's nothing left to defend. cows are cooked, brother.

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#117 delta3074
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kinects appeal will increase. I wondered why Kinect Star Wars release was delayed last year, was it because it was struggling, or was it because The Phantom Menace is getting released in 3D in a couple of months. Star Wars is huge, an almost sure fire system seller for little kids, my son really wants it. sts106mat
my kids have been harrassing me to get kinect as well but i ain't getting it for my 360, it's mine (my precious), i will save up and get them a 4gb kinect bundle
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#118 gamebreakerz__
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[QUOTE="gamebreakerz__"]You have to look at it from more than a numbers perspective. The reason 360 sold so well was most likely the massive Kinect marketing campaign, and fair enough they did it well. But the question is can the Kinect sustain it's appeal? And also, it seems extremely likely the Nextbox will release before the PS4, giving the PS3 extra time to make up sales, which it probably will.CrustyBritches

i smell bs...are you a cow in disguise? you won't be able to hide underground for long if you keep letting that sense of pride get in the way. let it go. there's nothing left to defend. cows are cooked, brother.

I haven't turned on my PS3 in over a month. You can see my BF3 PC stats IN MY SIG. You can see my PC specs IN MY SIG. I'm moving overseas to go to university in 6 days and I'm not taking my PS3. I won't be able to play it for about 8 months. So no I am not a cow in disguise.
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#119 gamebreakerz__
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[QUOTE="sts106mat"] kinects appeal will increase. I wondered why Kinect Star Wars release was delayed last year, was it because it was struggling, or was it because The Phantom Menace is getting released in 3D in a couple of months. Star Wars is huge, an almost sure fire system seller for little kids, my son really wants it.

Ugh Phantom Menace... worst movie ever.... But yeah who knows, the 360 might beat PS3 this year too, E3 might have some surprises but at this stage neither of them seem to have any real game changers scheduled for release. But the single fact of 1 years difference in release and a 10 million units per year (somewhere around there) suggests that the PS3 has overall been selling at a faster rate and should theoretically eclipse the 360.
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#121 delta3074
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[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="sts106mat"]kinects appeal will increase. I wondered why Kinect Star Wars release was delayed last year, was it because it was struggling, or was it because The Phantom Menace is getting released in 3D in a couple of months. Star Wars is huge, an almost sure fire system seller for little kids, my son really wants it. sts106mat
my kids have been harrassing me to get kinect as well but i ain't getting it for my 360, it's mine (my precious), i will save up and get them a 4gb kinect bundle

we've had it since launch, the latest dashboard update is good with it, you can speak to it and get it to sign you in, start the game while you brew up and find your controller. it works well with netflix too, the titles are rolling at the end of your episode of "dexter" and you say "xbox next episode" and it skips to the start of the new one. as for the games, the only ones we have had are the child friendly ones for my son really. I tried child of eden, which was amazing, but i sucked so bad, i couldn't do it. star wars will be a day one and he also wants the full version of haunt that is on the arcade.

that actually sounds pretty cool, might have to get one for my 360 as well, anything that gives me time to brew up is bonus, where you ever in the forces dude? brew up is very much a forces phrase, haven't heard that since i left the army in 96.
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#125 delta3074
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[QUOTE="sts106mat"][QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="sts106mat"] we've had it since launch, the latest dashboard update is good with it, you can speak to it and get it to sign you in, start the game while you brew up and find your controller. it works well with netflix too, the titles are rolling at the end of your episode of "dexter" and you say "xbox next episode" and it skips to the start of the new one. as for the games, the only ones we have had are the child friendly ones for my son really. I tried child of eden, which was amazing, but i sucked so bad, i couldn't do it. star wars will be a day one and he also wants the full version of haunt that is on the arcade.

that actually sounds pretty cool, might have to get one for my 360 as well, anything that gives me time to brew up is bonus, where you ever in the forces dude? brew up is very much a forces phrase, haven't heard that since i left the army in 96.

hahaha, no, i was in the air cadets lol. brew up is probably a northern phrase.

i spent 2 years in the air cadets before joining army cadets then the british army, my dads ex-RAF and he wanted me to be a pilot but i had different ideas i wanted to be a class A mud roller, in my family it's pretty much required that the males do military service, My daughter wants to be a helicopter gunship pilot in the Army, she also like zombies and rocket launchers,lol
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#127 loosingENDS
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Holy smokes :lol:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=461642

Sony reports 2 billion dollar loss in ONE fiscal quarter

Sony is Done! :lol:

I give them 9 months.

phonemug

And some people here think Sony will come up with the best hardware next gen

I think PS4 will be far weaker than xbox 720 and there is even a good chance that there wont be a PS4 at all too right now

Also is funny, but if it was not for Japan, 360 would be 15.000.000 systems ahead right now or more

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#128 SolidTy
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Also is funny, butif it was not for Japan, 360 would be15.000.000 systems ahead right now or more

loosingENDS

Zoinks! You hear that Scoob?

"If it wasn't for an entire pesky and meddling kids in that country, the gaming toy would have gotten away with it!" :P

Well gang, I guess that wraps up the mystery.

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[QUOTE="gamebreakerz__"]Actually your own beloved VGchartz lists the PS3 sold more in 2011. Look to the right hand side in global unit sales: http://www.vgchartz.com/yearly/2011/Global/

Wow. That backfired pretty damn fast for the lems. And lo and behold, they have completely changed the topic in fit of butthurt. :lol:
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[QUOTE="gamebreakerz__"]Actually your own beloved VGchartz lists the PS3 sold more in 2011. Look to the right hand side in global unit sales: http://www.vgchartz.com/yearly/2011/Global/nervmeister
Wow. That backfired pretty damn fast for the lems. And lo and behold, they have completely changed the topic in fit of butthurt. :lol:

Vgchartz is usually 10-20 million sales wrong every time

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#132 tenaka2
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Vgchartz is usually 10-20 million sales wrong every time

loosingENDS

There right when it suits you and wrong when they do not, you really are a two faced git.

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#133 nervmeister
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Vgchartz is usually 10-20 million sales wrong every time

loosingENDS

Not according to TC.

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#135 SecretPolice
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Them stockholders be happy I guess.

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I expect the next few weeks to be even worse for Sony fans. NPD coming up and no one can say duh NPD=/= worldwide or 360 only sells in America. Also even more doom threads with Sony announcing over $2 billion loss. The PS3 sold less in 2011 then in 2010 but the 360 increased year to year sales. Sony missed their glorious 15 million by the end of the year mark. This report from Sony was just bad all around for the cows on here. CanYouDiglt

Wait, I thought the PS3 sold less than 14.1 million last year.

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#137 PillyChickle
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Looks like the PS3 will have to settle with last place.

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Looks like MS backed up its bold E3 prediction of being the best selling console WW. Impressive.

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Holy smokes :lol:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=461642

Sony reports 2 billion dollar loss in ONE fiscal quarter


Sony is Done! :lol:

I give them 9 months.

phonemug

You just love to bash PS3 right? Quickly they fell, they might as well rise quickly aswell.

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#140 ispeakfact
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Updated with global sales, ps3 beat 360. Do'h! :)
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#141 kbanna
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Updated with global sales, ps3 beat 360. Do'h! :)ispeakfact

What update are you talking about? I see that the 360's lead has now increased to 4 million, 66 to 62 million when it was only 2 million in 2011. What are you looking at? Just curious

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#142 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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That's a vgchartz link...
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#143 SeventhEntity
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I was rooting for the PS3 to have more sales than the 360 because of the whole "60 dollars per year Xbox Live Gold Subscription to play online games"
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#144 kbanna
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That's a vgchartz link...Stevo_the_gamer

I am talking about sony's official press realese which they stated that they are now at 62 million worldwide, they have a 2billion dollar loss for the year in their gaming division, and they shipped 6.5 mill PS3's in the last qtr of 2011. http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=461642. I have not nor will I ever use vgchartz because its pure nonsense

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#145 Wasdie  Moderator
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Even without a good link, it doens't matter.

Both consoles have sold over 60 million.

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#146 delta3074
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Updated with global sales, ps3 beat 360. Do'h! :)ispeakfact
you mean the VG charts global sales that state the 360 is at 63,733,476 in ttotal sales, MS stated a liitle while ago that the 360 had passed 65 million, i have a suspicion that VG charts is of by a couple of million don't you,DUH. According to neogaf, a much more credible forum, the 360 did indeed outsell the Ps3 by 800k and thats based on an OFFICIAL annoucement of how many Ps3's have been sold form SONY themselves, read the whole thread next time dude, there a good chap.
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#147 delta3074
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Even without a good link, it doens't matter.

Both consoles have sold over 60 million.

Wasdie
Neogaf link seem legit to me, it' based on SONY's own statment.
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#148 Heil68
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The PS3 was actually the highest selling console worldwide in 2011.charizard1605
Yup and rightfully so and when you add all the world class exclusives to the mix it's becomes clear PS3>360.
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#149 kbanna
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[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

Even without a good link, it doens't matter.

Both consoles have sold over 60 million.

delta3074

Neogaf link seem legit to me, it' based on SONY's own statment.

It is legit. The lead has now grown to 4 million. It was 2 in 2011. Sony's own numbers have them at 62 million. Microsoft reported 66 million. Also while Sony sold 6.5 in the last qtr, Micro sold 8.4. The math is there. Microsoft kicked Sony's a@$ last year and increased the gap....period

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#150 waltefmoney
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"Buh.. buh.. the 360 has no exclusives. :cry: How could it outsell the PS3?" - cows