Official discussion: Metal Gear Solid 4- thread of awesome

keep it here, lets discuss how godly this game is and make lemmings jealous that they will never get this awesome movie/game

I cried 7 times during the cutscenes and i just couldnt even believe what i was playing at times, its like the hand of god helped create this masterpiece

keep it here, lets discuss how godly this game is and make lemmings jealous that they will never get this awesome movie/game

I cried 7 times during the cutscenes and i just couldnt even believe what i was playing at times, its like the hand of god helped create this masterpiece

rofflecopter_

I've heard of this game. Something about blurry textures...

The gameplay was amazing, especially Act II and Act IV. The final showdown between Liquid and Snake was also awesome.

And your a bad fakeboy.

[QUOTE="rofflecopter_"]

keep it here, lets discuss how godly this game is and make lemmings jealous that they will never get this awesome movie/game

I cried 7 times during the cutscenes and i just couldnt even believe what i was playing at times, its like the hand of god helped create this masterpiece

BudsMcGreen

I've heard of this game. Something about blurry textures...

The gameplay was amazing, especially Act II and Act IV. The final showdown between Liquid and Snake was also awesome.

And your a bad fakeboy.

Truth-slayer

agreed 100%!!

MGS4 is in my top 3 best games of all time personally.

It's my GOTY, and it truly deserves it, it's truly amazing from beginning to end and a real treat for MGS fans. It's not for everyone but for MGS fans and some others it's one of the best games ever made.

I hope it wins GOTY and keeps selling well, Kojima deserves it.

You're a few months too late, and a few months too irrelevant.

MGS4 was impressive because it was Kojima actually conforming to Western design. It was also a complete let-down, because it was Kojima actually conforming to Western design. I'm not a big fan of MGS, though, so I couldn't care less.

:P

I cried 7 times during the cutscenes and i just couldnt even believe what i was playing at times, its like the hand of god helped create this masterpiece

rofflecopter_

I liked the game too, but this is just pathetic.

[QUOTE="rofflecopter_"]

I cried 7 times during the cutscenes and i just couldnt even believe what i was playing at times, its like the hand of god helped create this masterpiece

Bentham

I liked the game too, but this is just pathetic.

Yea it was great and still is the best game ive played this gen, but your a little too late. Also, i just have to say that a lot of the boss fights sucked really bad. I mean Screaming Mantis was such bad ass, why was she so dang easy? Same with Laughing Octopus, and Raging Raven and especially Crying Wolf. mexicangordo

[QUOTE="mexicangordo"]Yea it was great and still is the best game ive played this gen, but your a little too late. Also, i just have to say that a lot of the boss fights sucked really bad. I mean Screaming Mantis was such bad ass, why was she so dang easy? Same with Laughing Octopus, and Raging Raven and especially Crying Wolf. rofflecopter_

They're as easy as the difficulty you put your game at.

MGS3's bosses were way easier as far as i'm concerned.

I will be upset if MGS4 doesnt get GOTY, best game Ive played in a LOOOONG time, since SotCPOJO_MOFO

"Liquid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

"Snake!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

that line alone > every other game! :D

[QUOTE="POJO_MOFO"]I will be upset if MGS4 doesnt get GOTY, best game Ive played in a LOOOONG time, since SotCrofflecopter_

wtf! Just stop! You're hopeless attempt at fanboyism makes me lose hope in mankind.

"Liquid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

"Snake!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

that line alone > every other game! :D

II_Seraphim_II

So bad-ass. The entire ending fight was jsut legendary. Kojima Productions wrote gaming history with that boss fight.

[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"]

"Liquid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

"Snake!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

that line alone > every other game! :D

azad_champ

So bad-ass. The entire ending fight was jsut legendary. Kojima Productions wrote gaming history with that boss fight.

This will simply turn into another bashing thread because Xbots will never admit the awesomeness of MGS4.metalgear-solid

[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"]

"Liquid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

"Snake!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

that line alone > every other game! :D

azad_champ

So bad-ass. The entire ending fight was jsut legendary. Kojima Productions wrote gaming history with that boss fight.

that fight was pretty badass. the funny thing is that the fighting mecahnics were better than in sum full fighting games lol.

anyways, yeah, MGS4 is the biznis!

"Eye Have You!"

[QUOTE="BudsMcGreen"][QUOTE="rofflecopter_"]

keep it here, lets discuss how godly this game is and make lemmings jealous that they will never get this awesome movie/game

I cried 7 times during the cutscenes and i just couldnt even believe what i was playing at times, its like the hand of god helped create this masterpiece

Truth-slayer

I've heard of this game. Something about blurry textures...

Sorry. Halo Textures>>>>> MGS4. Same with gears.

But yeah MGS4 is a decent game.

[QUOTE="metalgear-solid"]This will simply turn into another bashing thread because Xbots will never admit the awesomeness of MGS4.rofflecopter_

Halo 3?! Where did that come from? MGS4 is called by many the best game this gen, and by some even the best game they ever played. It's a artistical and technical masterpiece. I think you should play it. Go ahead. You'll enjoy it!

This will simply turn into another bashing thread because Xbots will never admit the awesomeness of MGS4.metalgear-solid

i don't even have a 360 and i don't think mgs4 is all that great. i just get bored when i play it.

You poor, sorry fools. Don't you see that you are the laughing stock of all of us who don't have god-awful taste in games?

Metal Gear Solid is the most overhyped trash in the history of video games. The story and characters are absolutely ridiculous, unworthy of a b-movie script written by a hyperactive 10-year old. The gameplay is so boring, unsatisfying and directionless that it makes me cringe when I play. The voice acting is awful, Snake sounds like he is suffering from a bad case of constipation, and Ocelot like a last minute stand-in doing the english voiceover for a japanese morning cartoon. And to top it off, the gameplay is broken up by endless cutscenes, completely unbearable thanks to the aforementioned bad story and characters.

By praising ANY game in this series, you prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that your opinion on anything, what so ever, hold absolutely no weight.

You poor, sorry fools. Don't you see that you are the laughing stock of all of us who don't have god-awful taste in games?

Metal Gear Solid is the most overhyped trash in the history of video games. The story and characters are absolutely ridiculous, unworthy of a b-movie script written by a hyperactive 10-year old. The gameplay is so boring, unsatisfying and directionless that it makes me cringe when I play. The voice acting is awful, Snake sounds like he is suffering from a bad case of constipation, and Ocelot like a last minute stand-in doing the english voiceover for a japanese morning cartoon. And to top it off, the gameplay is broken up by endless cutscenes, completely unbearable thanks to the aforementioned bad story and characters.

By praising ANY game in this series, you prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that your opinion on anything, what so ever, hold absolutely no weight.

siggy3

*looks at the 10 review from GS*

kthxbye.

[QUOTE="rofflecopter_"][QUOTE="metalgear-solid"]This will simply turn into another bashing thread because Xbots will never admit the awesomeness of MGS4.azad_champ

Halo 3?! Where did that come from? MGS4 is called by many the best game this gen, and by some even the best game they ever played. It's a artistical and technical masterpiece. I think you should play it. Go ahead. You'll enjoy it!

[QUOTE="siggy3"]

You poor, sorry fools. Don't you see that you are the laughing stock of all of us who don't have god-awful taste in games?

Metal Gear Solid is the most overhyped trash in the history of video games. The story and characters are absolutely ridiculous, unworthy of a b-movie script written by a hyperactive 10-year old. The gameplay is so boring, unsatisfying and directionless that it makes me cringe when I play. The voice acting is awful, Snake sounds like he is suffering from a bad case of constipation, and Ocelot like a last minute stand-in doing the english voiceover for a japanese morning cartoon. And to top it off, the gameplay is broken up by endless cutscenes, completely unbearable thanks to the aforementioned bad story and characters.

By praising ANY game in this series, you prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that your opinion on anything, what so ever, hold absolutely no weight.

II_Seraphim_II

*looks at the 10 review from GS*

kthxbye.

You can't even come up with your own argument, you just point to somebody else's opinion. Weak, at best.

[QUOTE="azad_champ"]

[QUOTE="rofflecopter_"][QUOTE="metalgear-solid"]This will simply turn into another bashing thread because Xbots will never admit the awesomeness of MGS4.metalgear-solid

Halo 3?! Where did that come from? MGS4 is called by many the best game this gen, and by some even the best game they ever played. It's a artistical and technical masterpiece. I think you should play it. Go ahead. You'll enjoy it!

i think it is very fun to play online, and so do millions of other people.

[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"][QUOTE="siggy3"]

You poor, sorry fools. Don't you see that you are the laughing stock of all of us who don't have god-awful taste in games?

Metal Gear Solid is the most overhyped trash in the history of video games. The story and characters are absolutely ridiculous, unworthy of a b-movie script written by a hyperactive 10-year old. The gameplay is so boring, unsatisfying and directionless that it makes me cringe when I play. The voice acting is awful, Snake sounds like he is suffering from a bad case of constipation, and Ocelot like a last minute stand-in doing the english voiceover for a japanese morning cartoon. And to top it off, the gameplay is broken up by endless cutscenes, completely unbearable thanks to the aforementioned bad story and characters.

By praising ANY game in this series, you prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that your opinion on anything, what so ever, hold absolutely no weight.

siggy3

*looks at the 10 review from GS*

kthxbye.

You can't even come up with your own argument, you just point to somebody else's opinion. Weak, at best.

well, you just gave me your opinion. So i was thinking to myself...whats more credible? Random guy on GS's opinion, or a professional review? I think I'll stick with the professional review :wink:

Edit: If you want my opinion, here is a copy paste of my review:

Link: MGS4 Review

Review:

[spoiler] Graphics:
This game is easily one of the most beautiful video games to grace consoles. While Gears Of War may have the high poly models and insane textures, Metal Gear Solid 4 brings about a complete graphical package that is unsurpassed by any game before it or after. This game truly brings an epic blockbuster movie feel to its presentation. Everything from the greatly emotive player models and the scenery looks beautiful. While there may be some dull textures here and there, the overall games looks amazing. Characters all look and react realistically and the animations are spot on. The game world is filled with small details that truly make it seem far more vibrant and the visual effects are in full force. Depth of view is in full force in this game and some well placed motion blur smoke and lighting are all carefully placed to give the game an artistic and beautiful feel to it. Cut-scenes are expertly choreographed and directed making every single one a blast to watch. This game clearly blurs the line between video games and movies when it comes to visual presentation and artistic value.

Gamep-lay:
The game-play borrows from the previous iterations and manages to evolve it to the next level. The stealth we have all become so accustomed to is still there in full force, except this time the game gives you far more options. Its completely possible to play the majority of the game as a Third Person Shooter much like Gears of War or to take the more tactical stealthy approach of the previous Metal Gear games. This game is all about choice. Each objective has multiple routes of varying difficulty and the game even implements a weapon customization aspect. As you play the game, snake will automatically pick up any weapons on the ground which are automatically sold to your resident gun launderer "Drebin". With the currency you get from selling weapons (Drebin Points (DB)) you can unlock new weapons, purchase ammo and buy customizations to your current weapons. This leads to a lot of game-play options depending on which weapon you chose to use and what customizations you chose to have on it.
Another game changing aspect is the Octocam. The Octocam brings back the idea of camouflage introduced in MGS3 but makes it far more intuitive and less cumbersome. Just by leaning up to an object or lying on the ground still, Snake's Octocam suit will automatically change pattern to blend in with the environment. The game also introduces Metal Gear Mk.II which is a small remote controlled robot that can help to knock out enemies or take weapons from the battlefield and even scout ahead for the player. These are just a few of the improvements that make this game vastly superior to the previous iterations. The game also takes on many different game-play elements to keep the gamer interested at every turn. Each Act tries to shake things up and through the course of your journey you will have done some sneaking, all out gunning and even some truly amazing chase scenes and even get a chance to pilot the might Metal Gear Rex!

Controls:
The controls are tight and responsive and you even get an option to change sensitivity and whether or not you want the X and/or Y axis inverted. The controls are intuitive and you will have them down in a matter or minutes despite all the various game-play elements and things you can do. The CQC maybe a little too sensitive at times and you might mess up a few times when trying to accomplish something, but its a minor gripe.

Sound:
The sound is spectacular. This game has one of the most touching and beautiful soundtracks to ever grace video games. Each song is carefully placed to produce the right emotional response at the right time. Everything from the eastern sounding theme song "Old Snake" to Middle Eastern sounding "Love Theme" is beautifully composed and well placed within the game. The weapon sounds sound perfect and the ambiance sounds are also very well done. Everything sounds very crisp and lively. Apart from the music, the true show stealer is voice acting. The voice acting in this game puts every other game to shame. The people actually understand the characters they are portraying and each voice lends a sense of individuality to each character. In short, you couldn't hope for any better!

Story:
Oh boy...the story. This is what the whole game is about, the story and let me be the first to tell you that it does not disappoint! MGS4 manages to do what everyone thought was possible, tie up all the lose ends from the entire series. Every major character from the past decade of Metal Gear Solid gets a mention in this game. Everyone has a role and they are all connected to the larger story of the MGS universe. This game is truly a game that's meant to entertain and thank all of its loyal fans. Throughout the entire game, many references to previous MGS games are made and various characters from Metal Gear games finally get their well deserved conclusions to their story. No one feels left out and nothing feels rushed. This game shows respect to every single character it has ever introduced and its overall story. Its hard for anyone to come away from this games story and feel disappointed. The story also happens to be a major emotional roller coaster. By the end of the game expect to have shed many tears as we see our heroes confront each dilemma head on.

Replay:
MGS4 is a great game and very replay-able. After beating the game once, and super hard mode (The Boss Extreme) is unlocked allowing you to try again. Also the general open aspect to the game-play means you might replay the game just to try another tactic, so maybe you could go guns blazing rather than stealthy this time around. To be quite honest, its worth replaying the entire game again just to watch the amazing cut-scenes again. Also MGS4 ships with Metal Gear Online. Despite the arduous sign-up process, it it quite enjoyable. The multiplayer uses the same mechanics as the single player through various game modes which have you killing, sneaking and so on. Overall, its a solid and enjoyable addition, but pales in comparison to the excellent single player.

Conclusion: This game is what every other game tries to be. This game redefines video games position as artistic media. This game is a finale that excels at at everything and easily trumps the competition. Its one of those rare gems that manages to be spectacular and also add extra goodies for long time fans. While fans will get more enjoyment from this game, everyone will enjoy it. This is a game that shouldn't be missed, no matter who you are. Its a milestone in video game making.

Scores:
Graphics - 10/10
Game-play - 10/10
Controls - 9/10
Sound - 10/10
Story - 10/10
Replay - 9/10
Final Score - 10/10 [/spoiler]

For example, the characters in MGS are being named as some of the best in gaming, but their personal traits and abilities have no explanation or relevance. Ocelot, for example, really likes spinning his pistols and we have to watch him do this for minutes in several cutscenes. Why??? What's the point? It has no place in the story or the setting of the game. And it doesn't stop at Ocelot, we have this solider who has control of bees, and a general who can shoot electricity, all for no reason and without explanation.

Go ahead, convince me that these issues are in fact not issues, but good things.

Neither gamespot's, your own or any other review can nullify the validity of my opinion on this game series, because no one is presenting any counter-arguments to my complaints. Instead, MGS fans are praising the very issues that are holding this series back. (I'm talking about the MGS series in general, not just MGS4)

For example, the characters in MGS are being named as some of the best in gaming, but their personal traits and abilities have no explanation or relevance. Ocelot, for example, really likes spinning his pistols and we have to watch him do this for minutes in several cutscenes. Why??? What's the point? It has no place in the story or the setting of the game. And it doesn't stop at Ocelot, we have this solider who has control of bees, and a general who can shoot electricity, all for no reason and without explanation.

Go ahead, convince me that these issues are in fact not issues, but good things.

siggy3

dude...they are bosses. Why is the Hydra in GoW pissed off and trying to kill people? Why is there a sex scene in ME? Its not like its needed. Why are ken and ryu able to release energy from their hands? Why can harry potter do magic? ITS FICTION! Not everything has to be realistic. As for the MGS series in general, I dont see how that is relavent in a thread about MGS4. And for your information, MGS4 really tried to ground everything down a little more with explanation of how so many things were possible due to nano-machines (Pyscho Mantis/B&B Mantis being able to control and read peoples minds due to nanmachines, and Fortunes abilities being suuplied by an electromagnetic field created by nanomachines).

Why does ocelot spin his guns in MGS3? Its meant to show the difference in personality between Ocelot and Naked Snake. Both Ocelot and Snake are sons of the boss (Ocelot being the genetic son, and Snake being the emotional son) and this is shown furthur more by they child like sibling rivalry all throughout MGS3. Ocelots gun play is in stark contrast to snakes calculated and purposeful movements. Its supposed to show Ocelots immature, and show-offish nature, while on the other hand Snake only does whats necessary (like when he etches out his gun grip so his knife will fit better). This shows the great contrast between them. Another scene where this is prevalent is when Snake tells Ocelot that he would be better off with a revolver with his shooting **** This furthers the image of them as "brothers" and helps show Snake's experience over Ocelots obvious talent, yet lack of experience.

As for the boss battles, each boss has his own special ability that goes with their name, and each of their names is a depiction of War, sort of like how the 4 horsemen's names depict the apocalypse. In MGS4 we have:

The End - Depicts the end of life in war. His ability is his extended life in a "death" like state.

The Pain - Depicts all the pain and suffering of war. His ability is a colony of hornets that live within him, giving him excrutiating pain.

The Sorrow - Depicts the sorrow that war brings. his ability brings back all the dead a soldier has ever killed and they manifest and tear at the soldier's soul.

The Fear - Depicts the fear of people in wars. His ability is his super strength and agility and his amazing camouflage. His abilities (IMO) are to show the fear one feels when facing an enemy they cant see and is clearly superior..sorta like facing off against the Predator.

The Fury - Depicts the sensless anger of war and he wields a flamethrower that can produce raging torrents of flame. I dunno, but I have always associated wild and forceful fire with fury and anger.

The Joy - Depicts he love of battle. The Boss is a born soldier and she depicts the "battle high" that sum soldiers get in war.Also I believe this is a reference to her enchanting charisma. Everyone who has ever known or fought beside her gets a sort of battle high, a "joy" by just being around her.

[QUOTE="rofflecopter_"]

keep it here, lets discuss how godly this game is and make lemmings jealous that they will never get this awesome movie/game

I cried 7 times during the cutscenes and i just couldnt even believe what i was playing at times, its like the hand of god helped create this masterpiece

BudsMcGreen

Hurr i can troll.

dude...they are bosses. Why is the Hydra in GoW pissed off and trying to kill people? Why is there a sex scene in ME? Its not like its needed. Why are ken and ryu able to release energy from their hands? Why can harry potter do magic? ITS FICTION! Not everything has to be realistic.

II_Seraphim_II

Yes, but unfortunately MGS presents itself as a realistic war story in a realistic military setting, but within minutes of playing that whole premise is thrown in the trash. A better comparison would be that Harry Potter all of a sudden decides that he doesn't need magic and arms himself with a machine gun instead.

As for the MGS series in general, I dont see how that is relavent in a thread about MGS4. And for your information, MGS4 really tried to ground everything down a little more with explanation of how so many things were possible due to nano-machines (Pyscho Mantis/B&B Mantis being able to control and read peoples minds due to nanmachines, and Fortunes abilities being suuplied by an electromagnetic field created by nanomachines).

II_Seraphim_II

Ah yes, nanomachines, the MGS series' equivalent of "a wizard did it"

Why does ocelot spin his guns in MGS3? Its meant to show the difference in personality between Ocelot and Naked Snake. Both Ocelot and Snake are sons of the boss (Ocelot being the genetic son, and Snake being the emotional son) and this is shown furthur more by they child like sibling rivalry all throughout MGS3. Ocelots gun play is in stark contrast to snakes calculated and purposeful movements. Its supposed to show Ocelots immature, and show-offish nature, while on the other hand Snake only does whats necessary (like when he etches out his gun grip so his knife will fit better). This shows the great contrast between them. Another scene where this is prevalent is when Snake tells Ocelot that he would be better off with a revolver with his shooting **** This furthers the image of them as "brothers" and helps show Snake's experience over Ocelots obvious talent, yet lack of experience.

II_Seraphim_II

That's a good explanation. Too bad that the game fails completely to give me this explanation. The game can mean and suppose all kinds of things, but it doesn't matter if the game fails to communicate the meaning, like in this case, so all I'm seeing is an annyoing dude playing with his pistols for no reason.

As for the boss battles, each boss has his own special ability that goes with their name, and each of their names is a depiction of War, sort of like how the 4 horsemen's names depict the apocalypse. In MGS4 we have:

The End - Depicts the end of life in war. His ability is his extended life in a "death" like state.

The Pain - Depicts all the pain and suffering of war. His ability is a colony of hornets that live within him, giving him excrutiating pain.

The Sorrow - Depicts the sorrow that war brings. his ability brings back all the dead a soldier has ever killed and they manifest and tear at the soldier's soul.

The Fear - Depicts the fear of people in wars. His ability is his super strength and agility and his amazing camouflage. His abilities (IMO) are to show the fear one feels when facing an enemy they cant see and is clearly superior..sorta like facing off against the Predator.

The Fury - Depicts the sensless anger of war and he wields a flamethrower that can produce raging torrents of flame. I dunno, but I have always associated wild and forceful fire with fury and anger.

The Joy - Depicts he love of battle. The Boss is a born soldier and she depicts the "battle high" that sum soldiers get in war.Also I believe this is a reference to her enchanting charisma. Everyone who has ever known or fought beside her gets a sort of battle high, a "joy" by just being around her.

II_Seraphim_II

This is the Harry Potter situation all over again. All these superpowers just don't fit into the initial premise and setting of the game. If the mission briefing had said something like "Oh, and one more thing, you'll be facing a bunch of wackos who have been playing around with nanomachines which has given them superpowers", I may had been fine with it. But it does no such thing, the game just throws in one implausible thing after another and expects you to accept it.

Loser lol. Stop hating so much.Gamersince81

[QUOTE="Bentham"][QUOTE="rofflecopter_"]

I cried 7 times during the cutscenes and i just couldnt even believe what i was playing at times, its like the hand of god helped create this masterpiece

rofflecopter_

I liked the game too, but this is just pathetic.

How old are you?

[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"]

dude...they are bosses. Why is the Hydra in GoW pissed off and trying to kill people? Why is there a sex scene in ME? Its not like its needed. Why are ken and ryu able to release energy from their hands? Why can harry potter do magic? ITS FICTION! Not everything has to be realistic.

siggy3

Yes, but unfortunately MGS presents itself as a realistic war story in a realistic military setting, but within minutes of playing that whole premise is thrown in the trash. A better comparison would be that Harry Potter all of a sudden decides that he doesn't need magic and arms himself with a machine gun instead.

As for the MGS series in general, I dont see how that is relavent in a thread about MGS4. And for your information, MGS4 really tried to ground everything down a little more with explanation of how so many things were possible due to nano-machines (Pyscho Mantis/B&B Mantis being able to control and read peoples minds due to nanmachines, and Fortunes abilities being suuplied by an electromagnetic field created by nanomachines).

II_Seraphim_II

Ah yes, nanomachines, the MGS series' equivalent of "a wizard did it"

Why does ocelot spin his guns in MGS3? Its meant to show the difference in personality between Ocelot and Naked Snake. Both Ocelot and Snake are sons of the boss (Ocelot being the genetic son, and Snake being the emotional son) and this is shown furthur more by they child like sibling rivalry all throughout MGS3. Ocelots gun play is in stark contrast to snakes calculated and purposeful movements. Its supposed to show Ocelots immature, and show-offish nature, while on the other hand Snake only does whats necessary (like when he etches out his gun grip so his knife will fit better). This shows the great contrast between them. Another scene where this is prevalent is when Snake tells Ocelot that he would be better off with a revolver with his shooting **** This furthers the image of them as "brothers" and helps show Snake's experience over Ocelots obvious talent, yet lack of experience.

II_Seraphim_II

That's a good explanation. Too bad that the game fails completely to give me this explanation. The game can mean and suppose all kinds of things, but it doesn't matter if the game fails to communicate the meaning, like in this case, so all I'm seeing is an annyoing dude playing with his pistols for no reason.

As for the boss battles, each boss has his own special ability that goes with their name, and each of their names is a depiction of War, sort of like how the 4 horsemen's names depict the apocalypse. In MGS4 we have:

The End - Depicts the end of life in war. His ability is his extended life in a "death" like state.

The Pain - Depicts all the pain and suffering of war. His ability is a colony of hornets that live within him, giving him excrutiating pain.

The Sorrow - Depicts the sorrow that war brings. his ability brings back all the dead a soldier has ever killed and they manifest and tear at the soldier's soul.

The Fear - Depicts the fear of people in wars. His ability is his super strength and agility and his amazing camouflage. His abilities (IMO) are to show the fear one feels when facing an enemy they cant see and is clearly superior..sorta like facing off against the Predator.

The Fury - Depicts the sensless anger of war and he wields a flamethrower that can produce raging torrents of flame. I dunno, but I have always associated wild and forceful fire with fury and anger.

The Joy - Depicts he love of battle. The Boss is a born soldier and she depicts the "battle high" that sum soldiers get in war.Also I believe this is a reference to her enchanting charisma. Everyone who has ever known or fought beside her gets a sort of battle high, a "joy" by just being around her.

II_Seraphim_II

This is the Harry Potter situation all over again. All these superpowers just don't fit into the initial premise and setting of the game. If the mission briefing had said something like "Oh, and one more thing, you'll be facing a bunch of wackos who have been playing around with nanomachines which has given them superpowers", I may had been fine with it. But it does no such thing, the game just throws in one implausible thing after another and expects you to accept it.

[QUOTE="rofflecopter_"]

I cried 7 times during the cutscenes and i just couldnt even believe what i was playing at times, its like the hand of god helped create this masterpiece

Bentham

I liked the game too, but this is just pathetic.

[QUOTE="Bentham"][QUOTE="rofflecopter_"]

I cried 7 times during the cutscenes and i just couldnt even believe what i was playing at times, its like the hand of god helped create this masterpiece

BumFluff122

[QUOTE="BumFluff122"][QUOTE="Bentham"][QUOTE="rofflecopter_"]

I cried 7 times during the cutscenes and i just couldnt even believe what i was playing at times, its like the hand of god helped create this masterpiece

II_Seraphim_II

Snake would think you guys are such ****ies.