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#51 thespywholied
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this makes lemmings sad pandas. and this was compared to empires?!
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#52 II_Seraphim_II
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I called it! I told you there would be a stick withing 10-20min of the Halo Wars Score thread going up! Oh yeah, I got owned, I hyped this game AA :(
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#53 Animal-Mother
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He held it to PC standards..........he says scale isnt big.......well what do u expect its the 360, the framerate will suffer otherwise.

For the first time since I bought my Elite............I am questioning my faith.

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An RTS is an RTS.
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#54 Hexagon_777
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My First RTS

I feel bad for the people whose first RTS will be Halo Wars. :(

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#55 XturnalS
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Funny thing is I think Kevin-V is going to flop Dawn of War II as well, he didn't sound too excited about it on the Hotspot. But I think it'll still be much higher then a 6.5.

And think of it this way lems you still have ODST amiright?

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#56 deactivated-5e7be39d87e0b
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

Haha, flop!

Yeah, I'll still buy it at some point...

Animal-Mother

Hey man I own alone in the dark and army of two, no need to be ashamed to own flops!

Worst game of this gen IMO. You are a brave man. But I'm one to talk. I have Monopoly for the 360.

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#57 BioShockOwnz
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[QUOTE="Flamestos"]My first expression was :lol: because I thought it was a joke. I was seriously expecting AA for this game but A at the worst. This is why I don't depending on reviews. I enjoyed the demo and Halo Wars is still pre-ordered for me.Franko_3
So instead of relying to gaming journalist, you rely on the hype and publicity made by M$, it's not better... Demo are only here to show the best part of the game so you buy it. Think Mirror edge.

The demo section for Mirror's Edge was not the best part.

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#58 Doom_HellKnight
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One of the negative points on the game was that the Flood arn't playable at all? I don't recall Dawn of War being shunned because the Imperial Guard weren't playable. But anyway, I respect the guys opinion. I just disagree with it.
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#59 glez13
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I read the whole thing and they have good arguments. Well its official now on SW:

This is a FLOP.

Halo fanboys are still gonna buy it like crazy anyway.:roll:

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#60 Espada12
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My First RTS

I feel bad for the people whose first RTS will be Halo Wars. :(

Hexagon_777

Lol, nice spin, but honestly it's really for people who never played RTS before. 7-8 is a more rational score if not compared to PC RTS.

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#61 Animal-Mother
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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

Haha, flop!

Yeah, I'll still buy it at some point...

bez2083

Hey man I own alone in the dark and army of two, no need to be ashamed to own flops!

Worst game of this gen IMO. You are a brave man. But I'm one to talk. I have Monopoly for the 360.

I've always liked you bez, your a braver man for owning monoply. But Ya know to each his own. I actually really really enjoy AOT
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#62 Espada12
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One of the negative points on the game was that the Flood arn't playable at all? I don't recall Dawn of War being shunned because the Imperial Guard weren't playable. But anyway, I respect the guys opinion. I just disagree with it.Doom_HellKnight

IG were only in the first mission of space marines if i remember.

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#63 musicalmac  Moderator
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Afro Samurai > Halo Wars.

[spoiler]  "Did not see that coming..." [/spoiler]
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#64 marklarmer
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[QUOTE="jethrovegas"]

props

Props to GS for reviewing the game based on the standards of the genre, rather than the standards of the genre on consoles.

+10 critical integrity.

and -50 for a complete lack of consistency
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#65 deactivated-5b1e62582e305
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My First RTS

I feel bad for the people whose first RTS will be Halo Wars. :(

Hexagon_777

:lol:

Omg, I can't stop laughing. This is awesome. Tonight, it's gonna be similar to the TP floppage on Wii. :lol:

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He held it to PC standards..........he says scale isnt big.......well what do u expect its the 360, the framerate will suffer otherwise.

For the first time since I bought my Elite............I am questioning my faith.

Keep-the-Faith
lems were the ones hyping it as though it could take on the big PC RTS :|
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#67 Flamestos
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[QUOTE="Flamestos"]My first expression was :lol: because I thought it was a joke. I was seriously expecting AA for this game but A at the worst. This is why I don't depending on reviews. I enjoyed the demo and Halo Wars is still pre-ordered for me.Franko_3
So instead of relying to gaming journalist, you rely on the hype and publicity made by M$, it's not better... Demo are only here to show the best part of the game so you buy it. Think Mirror edge.

What hype? I don't even like the Halo series besides 1 and I don't like Microsoft either (My post history backs that up). I played and enjoyed the Halo Wars demo and therefore I'm buying the game it's as simple as that. Gaming taste is subjective and I'm going to go back my own opinion from my own personal experience with games.
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#68 M337ING
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He held it to PC standards..........he says scale isnt big.......well what do u expect its the 360, the framerate will suffer otherwise.

For the first time since I bought my Elite............I am questioning my faith.

Keep-the-Faith
Take the flop and leave it. Its not like everything Halo touches is gold.
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#69 PBSnipes
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I'd like to congratulate GS on setting a new standard for piss-poor reviews (and this is coming from a life-long PC RTS fan). Lets go through this cluster****, shall we?:

"Covenant not playable in campaign mode, Flood not playable at all"

Just like how their wasn't a German campaign in Company of Heores, PC GOTY 2006? Also, thank's for the spoiler, champ.

"Small unit counts and map limit the scale of battles"

That's the whole goddamn point of the game, to focus on small-scale battles. This isn't C&C. God help this guy if he gets his hands on DoW 2.

"In terms of churning out an army, you need to actually click on a building to access its build menu."

Just like oh, I don't know, the vast majority of RTS games!?!?

"Although you can set up global and base-specific rally points, you can't create them for different unit types."

See above.

"Halo Wars is desperately lacking more factions to choose from"

Again, see PC GOTY 2006 Company of Heroes. Both feature 2 factions with 3 specialized sub-sets each.

Wow. Just wow.

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#70 Espada12
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Check the comments under the reviews. The damage control is hilarious.
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#72 FragTycoon
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My First RTS

I feel bad for the people whose first RTS will be Halo Wars. :(

Hexagon_777

best post so far. :lol:

Has this really changed anyones minds if they planed to pick it up?

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#73 Wasdie  Moderator
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The review lead me to believe that it was a solid game that could have just more content, not a 6.5 title.
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#74 BioShockOwnz
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I've always liked you bez, your a braver man for owning monoply. But Ya know to each his own. I actually really really enjoy AOTAnimal-Mother

As did I. I thought co-op was a blast. I also liked the cover system and the fact that you could do blindfire and crap without having to actually stick to cover.

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#75 carlisledavid79
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This is why system wars can at times be funny as hell. Keep in mind, im still getting this at some point. But lol
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#76 Gh0st_Of_0nyx
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:o!!! Wow looks like theres going to be a hell of a lot of lemming damage control for this flop :lol: Im still picking this game up tho the demo was amazing I thought.
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#77 Locke562
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[QUOTE="jethrovegas"]

Props to GS for reviewing the game based on the standards of the genre, rather than the standards of the genre on consoles.

+10 critical integrity.

marklarmer
and -50 for a complete lack of consistency

You can't exactly have consistency when reviews are done by different people with different opinions.
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#78 Eddie-Vedder
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The only thing I liked about the demo was the CGI tbh :P Looks like the 360 continues to flop games left and right in 2009, and I see NOTHING on the horizon that I REALLY want.
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#79 Floppy_Jim
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[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]I did not think this would flop. Especially after IGN's score. Ah well, cue the damage control.Aljosa23
Oh my, it's going to be hilarious. :lol:

It'll be even worse if a certain other game meets the hype :lol:
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#80 Jackboot343
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I heard this was supposed to be the best RTS for consoles.

I could tell though from the first preview of the game that this would be..."Small unit counts and map limit the scale of battles". I'm not surprised that this scored low. Sounds like they didn't do anything to improve the scale since the first video. The Halo name has been soiled. Pikmin 2 remains the best RTS for consoles and that was from last gen.

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#81 _Pedro_
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haha

Somehow this seems very appropriate.

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#82 WasntAvailable
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I didn't see this one comming. Very harsh. But for all those saying, "It should be reviewed as a console game!", why? It's an RTS, just like the ones found on PC. If it is inferior why should I be told diffrently just because it's on a diffrent platform using diffrent controls? If I were to see an action adventure title reviewed higher on PC because it dosn't have as many as the consoles, or whatever, I wouldn't consider that fair, infact it would be misguidance. It's not like it's on a DS or PSP with limited technology, the Xbox 360 is a full blown gaming system, you do not have to compensate with a lower standards regardless of the genre (Despite what PC gamers will try and tell you.).
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#83 BigGimp77
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The review lead me to believe that it was a solid game that could have just more content, not a 6.5 title.Wasdie
Ensemble is pretty good at making pretty long RTS single players from my experience. I wonder if the closing of Ensemble caused the game to be rushed...
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[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]:o!!! Wow looks like theres going to be a hell of a lot of lemming damage control for this flop :lol: Im still picking this game up tho the demo was amazing I thought.

Hiding behind the Wii again when a MS game flops I see.
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I'd like to congratulate GS on setting a new standard for piss-poor reviews (and this is coming from a life-long PC RTS fan). Lets go through this cluster****, shall we?:

"Covenant not playable in campaign mode, Flood not playable at all"

Just like how their wasn't a German campaign in Company of Heores, PC GOTY 2006? Also, thank's for the spoiler, champ.

"Small unit counts and map limit the scale of battles"

That's the whole goddamn point of the game, to focus on small-scale battles. This isn't C&C. God help this guy if he gets his hands on DoW 2.

"In terms of churning out an army, you need to actually click on a building to access its build menu."

Just like oh, I don't know, the vast majority of RTS games!?!?

"Although you can set up global and base-specific rally points, you can't create them for different unit types."

See above.

"Halo Wars is desperately lacking more factions to choose from"

Again, see PC GOTY 2006 Company of Heroes. Both feature 2 factions with 3 specialized sub-sets each.

Wow. Just wow.

PBSnipes
Good post..its more like this game was the reviewer's first RTS more so than the people that will actually buy this. He sounds completely lost reviewing RTS games.
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#86 M337ING
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[QUOTE="Wasdie"]The review lead me to believe that it was a solid game that could have just more content, not a 6.5 title.BigGimp77
An Ensemble is pretty good at making pretty long RTS single players from my experience. I wonder if the closing of Ensemble caused the game to be rushed...

Or they sabotaged it on purpose.
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#87 Joust_
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Killzone 2 getting 8.5 seems all the more likely now

Keep-the-Faith

That's some sweet DC right there.

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#88 Franky-the-bat
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How can it get 6.5 here and 8.4 from ign us. 8.2 from ign uk. 9 from ign Australia?

Why do we get these inconsistent reviews? Gamespot's still trying to prove they give the harshest reviewes, but with zero credibility under their belt they look even more of a laughing stock.

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#89 deactivated-5b1e62582e305
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I love you Gamespot. Thanks for making me day hilariously awesome! :lol:

Halo Wars flopping horrible and Empire: Total War demo all in the same day, it's like Christmas! :cry:

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#90 shutdown_202
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flipity flopity flipity flopity flipity flopity flop FLOP. haahhaahahahaha TLHBO ahhhhhhhhh i love it!!!
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#91 leadernator
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FLOOOOOP.

So what's 360's heavy hitter this year? :P

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#92 bethwo
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I wonder if 50 Cent: BoTS will score better than Halo Wars? That would be hillarious

Kinda sad that Ensemble's last game was a flop.

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#93 Animal-Mother
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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]I've always liked you bez, your a braver man for owning monoply. But Ya know to each his own. I actually really really enjoy AOTBioShockOwnz

As did I. I thought co-op was a blast. I also liked the cover system and the fact that you could do blindfire and crap without having to actually stick to cover.

Ya it really is a great fun game. But when we gonna play that RE5 demo man!
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#94 M337ING
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So, wait. Does the 360 have a shot at only one AAA exclusive this year, now? Oh, how the tables have turned! :lol:
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I'd like to congratulate GS on setting a new standard for piss-poor reviews (and this is coming from a life-long PC RTS fan). Lets go through this cluster****, shall we?:

"Covenant not playable in campaign mode, Flood not playable at all"

Just like how their wasn't a German campaign in Company of Heores, PC GOTY 2006? Also, thank's for the spoiler, champ.

"Small unit counts and map limit the scale of battles"

That's the whole goddamn point of the game, to focus on small-scale battles. This isn't C&C. God help this guy if he gets his hands on DoW 2.

"In terms of churning out an army, you need to actually click on a building to access its build menu."

Just like oh, I don't know, the vast majority of RTS games!?!?

"Although you can set up global and base-specific rally points, you can't create them for different unit types."

See above.

"Halo Wars is desperately lacking more factions to choose from"

Again, see PC GOTY 2006 Company of Heroes. Both feature 2 factions with 3 specialized sub-sets each.

Wow. Just wow.

PBSnipes

I think it was the post that gave it away.

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#96 angelkimne
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'Although Halo Wars can be rewarding and fun to play for a time, the short length of the single-player campaign and the lack of variety in the multiplayer ultimately leaves the game feeling unfinished and threadbare. It looks and sounds great, and it captures the essence of the series well, but there's not much else to keep you coming back once you've finished the short campaign and grown tired of playing multiplayer skirmishes between the two sides. It's good while it lasts, but it will appeal more to fans of Halo and casual RTS players than anyone looking for deeply engrossing strategy game.'

It sounds more like a 7.5 to me.

PS: Where's our Killzone 2 review GS? you must have had the game for atleast a month?

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#97 dr-venkman
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I already canceled my preorder after playing through the demo. This review and IGN's makes me glad I did.
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#98 M337ING
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'Although Halo Wars can be rewarding and fun to play for a time, the short length of the single-player campaign and the lack of variety in the multiplayer ultimately leaves the game feeling unfinished and threadbare. It looks and sounds great, and it captures the essence of the series well, but there's not much else to keep you coming back once you've finished the short campaign and grown tired of playing multiplayer skirmishes between the two sides. It's good while it lasts, but it will appeal more to fans of Halo and casual RTS players than anyone looking for deeply engrossing strategy game.' It sounds more like a 7.5 to me.angelkimne
Too bad. The reviewer thought it was a 6.5
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#99 howell1972
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Nice. It is about time Halo got the flop score it has deserved. Great exclusive.

No thanks but I am enjoying House of the Dead Overkill and soon KillZone 2.

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#100 carlisledavid79
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[QUOTE="Keep-the-Faith"]

Killzone 2 getting 8.5 seems all the more likely now

Joust_

That's some sweet DC right there.

Yeah lol seems strange doesnt it. Because Killzone 2 is an RTS as well .............. oh wait