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#151 Espada12
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Bu Bu Bu it is very fun game :( told you guys, this is the same exact sitution like the wii dumbed down gameplayGiancar

It's ok when the 360 does it .. not ok when the Wii does it. At least the wii doesn't try to dumb down PC games.

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#152 monkeytoes61
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Well it sounds like they reviewed it by PC RTS standards, which is unfair to say the least. So called gaming journalism is a joke.comeonthehoops
Just like how they review BiA on the DS by the standards of the Xbox game. Gamespot's reviews are a joke.
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hw.
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#154 Gh0st_Of_0nyx
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[QUOTE="bez2083"] [QUOTE="PBSnipes"]

I'd like to congratulate GS on setting a new standard for piss-poor reviews (and this is coming from a life-long PC RTS fan). Lets go through this cluster****, shall we?:

"Covenant not playable in campaign mode, Flood not playable at all"

Just like how their wasn't a German campaign in Company of Heores, PC GOTY 2006? Also, thank's for the spoiler, champ.

"Small unit counts and map limit the scale of battles"

That's the whole goddamn point of the game, to focus on small-scale battles. This isn't C&C. God help this guy if he gets his hands on DoW 2.

"In terms of churning out an army, you need to actually click on a building to access its build menu."

Just like oh, I don't know, the vast majority of RTS games!?!?

"Although you can set up global and base-specific rally points, you can't create them for different unit types."

See above.

"Halo Wars is desperately lacking more factions to choose from"

Again, see PC GOTY 2006 Company of Heroes. Both feature 2 factions with 3 specialized sub-sets each.

Wow. Just wow.

XturnalS

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g51/bez2083/umad-1.jpg

I think it was the post that gave it away.

You sir win the MFing Internets with that post. God couldn't of asked for a better pic. Gotta love that Killa Cam line.

Im glad im not the only one that got that pic :lol: Hilarious
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#155 DaBrainz
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The fact that the game only has only 2 factions and a short single player campaign is why I think this score is valid. I mean how much replay can you get with only 2 factions? That severely limits the amount of strategies you can use.
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#156 Skittles_McGee
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[QUOTE="Giancar"]Bu Bu Bu it is very fun game :( told you guys, this is the same exact sitution like the wii dumbed down gameplayEspada12

It's ok when the 360 does it .. not ok when the Wii does it. At least the wii doesn't try to dumb down PC games.

Yep, they dumb down console games instead. ...wait, thats worse.
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#157 Mehdi1984
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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="Keep-the-Faith"]

I personally only buy games above a 7...........most of my games are 8.5 and above...........

WTF DO I DO NOW!???!!!!!!!

Keep-the-Faith

} Get a PS3

i gotta go........gotta relax and process this. i am not joking when i say i feel light headed........i had such high hopes for this.

............ what? are you serious?
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#158 M337ING
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The fact that the game only has only 2 factions and a short single player campaign is why I think this score is valid. I mean how much replay can you get with only 2 factions? That severely limits the amount of strategies you can use.DaBrainz
Games that do it well (Company of Heroes) offer layers upon layers of different strategy upon those two factions. Halo Wars simply doesnt.
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#159 Giancar
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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="Keep-the-Faith"]

I personally only buy games above a 7...........most of my games are 8.5 and above...........

WTF DO I DO NOW!???!!!!!!!

Keep-the-Faith

} Get a PS3

i gotta go........gotta relax and process this. i am not joking when i say i feel light headed........i had such high hopes for this.

buy it, simply as that...why would you care for a score, if you have fun...get it
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#160 Skittles_McGee
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The fact that the game only has only 2 factions and a short single player campaign is why I think this score is valid. I mean how much replay can you get with only 2 factions? That severely limits the amount of strategies you can use.DaBrainz
Warcraft 1 and 2 would like to say "hi".
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#161 angelkimne
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[QUOTE="angelkimne"]It's not just IGN that rated the game AA/AAA if that's what you're implying...BigGimp77
http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/xbox360/halowars I see GameInformer (Always over rates games) and 2 xbox realted reveiews... And one site i've never heard of lol.

Metacritic don't update fast enough... http://www.n4g.com/Xbox360/games/g-21480/tt/metareviews.aspx
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#162 flazzle
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I am surprised there are actual frame rate issues for the 360 with this game.
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#163 _Pedro_
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hw.jethrovegas

hahahaha really laughed at that one :D

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#164 bdum_pshhh
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hw.jethrovegas
lol, now i gotta go find that dvd rewinder pic.
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#165 vashkey
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Yup. And since GS gave it the lowest score out of all critics everyone will choose to go by that one. Simply because this game has Halo in the title. Forget the nine from Gameinformer. Forget the eight from IGN. Suddenly Gamespot who's integrity supposedly went down the drain with the Army of Two shenanigans is the number one critic when it comes to a single game.
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#166 BigGimp77
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[QUOTE="DaBrainz"]The fact that the game only has only 2 factions and a short single player campaign is why I think this score is valid. I mean how much replay can you get with only 2 factions? That severely limits the amount of strategies you can use.M337ING
Games that do it well (Company of Heroes) offer layers upon layers of different strategy upon those two factions. Halo Wars simply doesnt.

I think Age of Mythology is the only Ensemble game to have more then 2 factions. I mean AoE had multiple civilizations but they were basically all the same units with slightly altered benefits.
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#167 Xalaten
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This review almost makes up for how much they lowballed Ratchet and Clank FTOD and Twilight Princess. Almost. I'm not saying that because I'm a 360 hater either. My 360 has gotten more of a workout than my PS3. I simply hate Halo and hate that they tried to make yet ANOTHER RTS on the consoles. The RTS is the domain of the PC. Period. You can't slap the name "Halo" on an average RTS and expect a great game.
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#168 Hexagon_777
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How can it get 6.5 here and 8.4 from ign us. 8.2 from ign uk. 9 from ign Australia?

Why do we get these inconsistent reviews? Gamespot's still trying to prove they give the harshest reviewes, but with zero credibility under their belt they look even more of a laughing stock.

Franky-the-bat

Exactly, hence why it should be highly discouraged to only use GameSpot. :|

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#169 Eddie-Vedder
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[QUOTE="DaBrainz"]The fact that the game only has only 2 factions and a short single player campaign is why I think this score is valid. I mean how much replay can you get with only 2 factions? That severely limits the amount of strategies you can use.Skittles_McGee
Warcraft 1 and 2 would like to say "hi".

Those games still had more depth and they are like what over 10 years old or something?
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#170 Espada12
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[QUOTE="DaBrainz"]The fact that the game only has only 2 factions and a short single player campaign is why I think this score is valid. I mean how much replay can you get with only 2 factions? That severely limits the amount of strategies you can use.Skittles_McGee
Warcraft 1 and 2 would like to say "hi".

Warcraft 1 and 2 came out in 1994 and 1995,we are in 2009. Compare it to WC3 which was 2002 and lol!

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#171 Keep-the-Faith
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[QUOTE="Keep-the-Faith"][QUOTE="Animal-Mother"] } Get a PS3Giancar

i gotta go........gotta relax and process this. i am not joking when i say i feel light headed........i had such high hopes for this.

buy it, simply as that...why would you care for a score, if you have fun...get it

offcourse ill buy it. Ill play it and ill love it...........like any faithful lemming would. Any mother would unconditionally love an ugly baby........

but still........a halo fan getting a sub A Halo game.......this was very world shattering.

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#173 TenP
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It's unfair that it was compared to other RTSs?

I think it's perfectly fair, after all the Lemmings were cheering after Ensemble said that this controlled better than any RTS on the PC.

Sucks that this is Ensemble's last project, hopefully Robot will take up arms and make an AoE2 or an AoM again.

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#174 Unforgiven2870
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[QUOTE="BigGimp77"][QUOTE="angelkimne"]It's not just IGN that rated the game AA/AAA if that's what you're implying...angelkimne
http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/xbox360/halowars I see GameInformer (Always over rates games) and 2 xbox realted reveiews... And one site i've never heard of lol.

Metacritic don't update fast enough... http://www.n4g.com/Xbox360/games/g-21480/tt/metareviews.aspx

All the 8's and 10's there heh
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#175 Franky-the-bat
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[QUOTE="Franky-the-bat"] How can it get 6.5 here and 8.4 from ign us. 8.2 from ign uk. 9 from ign Australia?

Why do we get these inconsistent reviews? Gamespot's still trying to prove they give the harshest reviewes, but with zero credibility under their belt they look even more of a laughing stock.

leadernator

Same case always...

Fanboy doesn't agree with GS review, fanboy questions GS's credibility.

What makes me a fanboy? The fact I own consoles from all brands?

It's no secret GS been terrible for some time now, I bet you hide under a rock and pretend everything is hunky-dory. How can they give a garbage score for a game that's got great score average across the board?

For someone like me that heavily rely on reviews, this is ridicules, how is this making me a fanboy?

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#176 Indie_Hitman
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And in the distance, when all was silent, all that could be heard was the sound of thousands of preorders plummeting downward and the voices of millions of children stuttering 'Master Chief - where are you? J/k, I thought it looked quite good. My brothers buying it regardless.
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#177 Skittles_McGee
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[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"][QUOTE="DaBrainz"]The fact that the game only has only 2 factions and a short single player campaign is why I think this score is valid. I mean how much replay can you get with only 2 factions? That severely limits the amount of strategies you can use.Espada12

Warcraft 1 and 2 would like to say "hi".

Warcraft 1 and 2 came out in 1994 and 1995,we are in 200. Compare it to WC3 which was 2002 and lol!

That doesn't change the point that they were highly praised RTS games with only two factions :| Fine, want a more recent one? Pick a Command and Conquer game that has two factions. There's been some recently, like Red Alert 2.
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#178 Zhengi
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Oh my. This should be fun.
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#179 Hexagon_777
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[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]

Do Not Post In Linked Threads.

Halo Wars AA

Halo Wars will expand the RTS genre

Holy Cow! Halo Wars demo dowloaded over 2 milllion times!!!!!!

The above illustrates the hype for the game, what lemmings think the game will do and how lemmings love to play "great" games.

Animal-Mother

The best is the Halo wars will expand the RTS genre one

I agree. That one was hilarious. :D

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#180 FragTycoon
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[QUOTE="Giancar"][QUOTE="Keep-the-Faith"]

i gotta go........gotta relax and process this. i am not joking when i say i feel light headed........i had such high hopes for this.

Keep-the-Faith

buy it, simply as that...why would you care for a score, if you have fun...get it

offcourse ill buy it. Ill play it and ill love it...........like any faithful lemming would. Any mother would unconditionally love an ugly baby........

but still........a halo fan getting a sub A Halo game.......this was very world shattering.

:lol:

But honestly, play the games you want to play.

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#181 Giancar
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[QUOTE="Giancar"][QUOTE="Keep-the-Faith"]

i gotta go........gotta relax and process this. i am not joking when i say i feel light headed........i had such high hopes for this.

Keep-the-Faith

buy it, simply as that...why would you care for a score, if you have fun...get it

offcourse ill buy it. Ill play it and ill love it...........like any faithful lemming would. Any mother would unconditionally love an ugly baby........

but still........a halo fan getting a sub A Halo game.......this was very world shattering.

why do you care, what a site gives to the game I use gs scores only for ownage purposes... But i trust more ign and gt more
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#182 BigGimp77
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It's unfair that it was compared to other RTSs?

I think it's perfectly fair, after all the Lemmings were cheering after Ensemble said that this controlled better than any RTS on the PC.

Sucks that this is Ensemble's last project, hopefully Robot will take up arms and make an AoE2 or an AoM again.

TenP
I doubt they would be able to... Do they own the right to the AoE series or is it microsofts?
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#183 Gh0st_Of_0nyx
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[QUOTE="Keep-the-Faith"][QUOTE="Giancar"] buy it, simply as that...why would you care for a score, if you have fun...get itcarlisledavid79

offcourse ill buy it. Ill play it and ill love it...........like any faithful lemming would. Any mother would unconditionally love an ugly baby........

but still........a halo fan getting a sub A Halo game.......this was very world shattering.

/ the internet

I agree im a huge halo fanboy and when I saw that score in some other thread I thought it was a joke post :(

*waits for carlisledavid to say im hiding behind halo now* :P

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#184 carlisledavid79
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It's unfair that it was compared to other RTSs?

I think it's perfectly fair, after all the Lemmings were cheering after Ensemble said that this controlled better than any RTS on the PC.

Sucks that this is Ensemble's last project, hopefully Robot will take up arms and make an AoE2 or an AoM again.

TenP
Agreed. You cant complain that its judged by other standards when you judge it by the same standards before a review.
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#185 gamedude00
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So wait, Red Alert 3 on the xbox 360 gets a better score? And i thought Halo Wars will expand the rts genre. :D
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#186 glez13
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To the people comparing CoH to HW, just stop please. CoH is a 2006 game that is already a clasic. HW is a 2009 game that is as casual as Wii shovelware. Just stop please.
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#187 Hexagon_777
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[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]

My First RTS

I feel bad for the people whose first RTS will be Halo Wars. :(

FragTycoon

best post so far. :lol:

Has this really changed anyones minds if they planed to pick it up?

Thanks! And I would assume so! After all, "hardcore gamers" are not buying the Wii because it lacks a sufficient amount of highly rated games. If they care so much about highly rated games, then they shouldn't be buying this.

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#188 DaBrainz
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[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"][QUOTE="DaBrainz"]The fact that the game only has only 2 factions and a short single player campaign is why I think this score is valid. I mean how much replay can you get with only 2 factions? That severely limits the amount of strategies you can use.Espada12

Warcraft 1 and 2 would like to say "hi".

Warcraft 1 and 2 came out in 1994 and 1995,we are in 2009. Compare it to WC3 which was 2002 and lol!

Someone else said it before I had to. Maybe if HaloWars came out 15 years ago it would of scored higher too, but then it still wouldn't of been as good as WCII because of teh controls anyway.

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#189 Xalaten
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I think the question now is this. Race Pro hasn't been critically received. Halo Wars has now flopped here on GS. What if Star Ocean Last Hope flops too? Then all three early 09 360 exclusives will have flopped. I don't really care WHAT score Gamespot gives Last Hope though. I have it preordered and would still have it preordered even if Gamespot gave it a 5. I'm just saying in the context of System Wars it would be pretty funny if Microsoft's first three 09 exclusives flopped.
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#190 GreyFoXX4
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Now Sony needs to get on the ball and get a rts out that has mouse and keyboard support, that would just put a smile on my face :)
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#191 bdum_pshhh
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So wait, Red Alert 3 on the xbox 360 gets a better score? And i thought Halo Wars will expand the rts genre. :Dgamedude00
it will also be better than SC2. :roll:
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#192 blue_hazy_basic  Moderator
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ABOUT TIME GS!!!??!! Have to say I think its long past due that many console games have been given a pass and scored MUCH easier than they would have done if they had been on the PC. Looks like GS (unlike some other sites *cough* IGN *cough*) are actually putting the game in context of the genre.
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#193 spinecaton
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One of the negative points on the game was that the Flood arn't playable at all? I don't recall Dawn of War being shunned because the Imperial Guard weren't playable. But anyway, I respect the guys opinion. I just disagree with it.Doom_HellKnight

The score doesn't bother me since I was never really interested in this game but if they talk about the covenant not being playable in the campaign then I would also like to see in the reviews for Dawn of War II and Starcraft II that other races were not playable in the campaign aswell. Halo Wars campaign is pretty much exactly like those two games with only one playable race during the campaign, if those games get the pass while Halo Wars does not, I will then start damaging controlling more :P

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#194 vashkey
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[QUOTE="TenP"]

It's unfair that it was compared to other RTSs?

I think it's perfectly fair, after all the Lemmings were cheering after Ensemble said that this controlled better than any RTS on the PC.

Sucks that this is Ensemble's last project, hopefully Robot will take up arms and make an AoE2 or an AoM again.

carlisledavid79
Agreed. You cant complain that its judged by other standards when you judge it by the same standards before a review.

I agree. Lets start judging handheld games by console and PC standards.
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#195 Skittles_McGee
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To the people comparing CoH to HW, just stop please. CoH is a 2006 game that is already a clasic. HW is a 2009 game that is as casual as Wii shovelware. Just stop please.
glez13
I agree, you can't compare the two. Halo Wars has balance, CoH... well its made by Relic :| Oh yeah, I went there.
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#196 cobrax75
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[QUOTE="Espada12"]

[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"] Warcraft 1 and 2 would like to say "hi".Skittles_McGee

Warcraft 1 and 2 came out in 1994 and 1995,we are in 200. Compare it to WC3 which was 2002 and lol!

That doesn't change the point that they were highly praised RTS games with only two factions :| Fine, want a more recent one? Pick a Command and Conquer game that has two factions. There's been some recently, like Red Alert 2.

Your really missing the point...War Craft 1 and 2 came out nearly 15 years ago...back when the standards for RTS's were very differently...back than all the races tended to be very similar to one another, and thus there wasnt a lot of point to doing multiple campaigns....

It wasnt until starcraft that had 3 very distinct races that doing multiple campaigns became standard for RTS's.

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#197 SemiMaster
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[QUOTE="FragTycoon"][QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]

My First RTS

I feel bad for the people whose first RTS will be Halo Wars. :(

Hexagon_777

best post so far. :lol:

Has this really changed anyones minds if they planed to pick it up?

Thanks! And I would assume so! After all, "hardcore gamers" are not buying the Wii because it lacks a sufficient amount of highly rated games. If they care so much about highly rated games, then they shouldn't be buying this.

I still say the reason Halo was so adored because it was people's first FPS too.
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#198 Rage010101
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lol any pc rts veteran could have seen this coming. STARCRAFT FTW!!! i was considering maybe renting it...but now i will probably avoid it...maybe pick it up from one of my halo fanatic friends and give it a go. but wow, lems really shot themselves in the foot this time! haha
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#199 M337ING
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[QUOTE="Xalaten"]I think the question now is this. Race Pro hasn't been critically received. Halo Wars has now flopped here on GS. What if Star Ocean Last Hope flops too? Then all three early 09 360 exclusives will have flopped. I don't really care WHAT score Gamespot gives Last Hope though. I have it preordered and would still have it preordered even if Gamespot gave it a 5. I'm just saying in the context of System Wars it would be pretty funny if Microsoft's first three 09 exclusives flopped.

What's left? Halo 3: ODST? Could MS actually go a year without a single AAAE?
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#200 TenP
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It's unfair that it was compared to other RTSs?

I think it's perfectly fair, after all the Lemmings were cheering after Ensemble said that this controlled better than any RTS on the PC.

Sucks that this is Ensemble's last project, hopefully Robot will take up arms and make an AoE2 or an AoM again.

BigGimp77

I doubt they would be able to... Do they own the right to the AoE series or is it microsofts?

I'm pretty sure the rights will transfer over to Robot... or I hope they will anyway. I don't want an AoE not made by Ensemble. :[