Official MGS4 possible multiplat discussion thread

self control, people. learn it please. :|

CaseyWegner

i remember a certain sticky clearly stating it had no chance:P

[QUOTE="jazreal"][QUOTE="MikeE21286"]

[QUOTE="Broman6015"]Ithink it will be a while before this desicion is made. A lot could happen between now and MGS4's release. I dont think its right to say that this is going to be the death of sony. Its not like its the only game worth getting for the PS3. If MGS4 does go to the 360, i would expect a Substience type of version 6 months to a year after the PS3's release. Broman6015

Imagine if all of the sudden for 360 owners Halo 3 was released on the PS3. It's the same situation

you do realise MS owns Bungie right? it has nothing to do with power.

[QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="Hoffgod"]

As a diehard MGS fan, I really want this to go multiplat. Badly. I do not want to have to pay $560 to get to play the next game in my favorite non-Nintendo franchise. I'd much rather just pay $60 and leave it at that.

This is, of course, assuming they can port it over without seriously gimping the game. And DON'T call disc-swapping gimping the game. We made it through the PS1 generation, something tells me we can survive a few games disc-swapping this generation.

Hoffgod

Stop making such a big deal out of such a small thing.

[QUOTE="Vandam500"]Damn, if MGS4 goes to 360 that will be a big blow for Sony. IMHO thats the biggest and most hyped game they have. It´s like if Halo 3 went PS3, a huge blow, huge.Dualshockin

Remember, MGS2 came out for Xbox light years after it came out for PS2 and the PS2 had no problem with sales as well. Now, the PS3 is having a major game drought and needs amazing exclusive games to move some systems, thats why MGS4 is one of the major keys in improving the PS3´s sales. If it comes out for other systems (Possibly PC and 360) then that will be another reason not to need to buy a PS3.

Ay yi yi. At this point I don't even care anymore. So long as PS3 is still getting the game (and the game is built for PS3 so it won't be a bad port), I'm happy. CyanX73

Someday, the fanboys will sing songs about you, and how you showed them the Way, the Truth, and the Light.

[QUOTE="Hoffgod"][QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="Hoffgod"]

As a diehard MGS fan, I really want this to go multiplat. Badly. I do not want to have to pay $560 to get to play the next game in my favorite non-Nintendo franchise. I'd much rather just pay $60 and leave it at that.

This is, of course, assuming they can port it over without seriously gimping the game. And DON'T call disc-swapping gimping the game. We made it through the PS1 generation, something tells me we can survive a few games disc-swapping this generation.

Dualshockin

Stop making such a big deal out of such a small thing.

If you go to the bathroom, you're losing the feel of realism that the game immerses you in. Disc swapping and going to the bathroom both interrupt gameplay, and they both take away that immersive feeling.

[QUOTE="Hoffgod"][QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="Hoffgod"]

As a diehard MGS fan, I really want this to go multiplat. Badly. I do not want to have to pay $560 to get to play the next game in my favorite non-Nintendo franchise. I'd much rather just pay $60 and leave it at that.

This is, of course, assuming they can port it over without seriously gimping the game. And DON'T call disc-swapping gimping the game. We made it through the PS1 generation, something tells me we can survive a few games disc-swapping this generation.

Dualshockin

Stop making such a big deal out of such a small thing.

I didn't lose the feel of the game switching disks in Tales of Symphonia.

If this happens, the Sony fanboys will be consumed in anger, hostility,and denial.......So beautiful, to witness the hearts of many trampled upon by big business.

Hahahahahahahahahahahazhahh

[QUOTE="Hoffgod"][QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="Hoffgod"]

As a diehard MGS fan, I really want this to go multiplat. Badly. I do not want to have to pay $560 to get to play the next game in my favorite non-Nintendo franchise. I'd much rather just pay $60 and leave it at that.

This is, of course, assuming they can port it over without seriously gimping the game. And DON'T call disc-swapping gimping the game. We made it through the PS1 generation, something tells me we can survive a few games disc-swapping this generation.

Dualshockin

Stop making such a big deal out of such a small thing.

Going to the bathroom=/= Disc swapping. The major difference is this:When i'm playing a game that is meant to immerse me in a world of stealth,I do not want to lose the "feel" of the game. Disc swapping,creates that loss,as it does not help in making the game any more realistic and actually removes a large portion of the realism and epic factor.When I used to buy games that involved more than 1 disc 10 years ago and for a select few last-gen,I -knew- I would have to change the disc at a certain unspecified point. Knowing that after you save at point(x) you will be prompted to change the disc,is not a good feeling.Now imagine having to do so more than twice.Dualshockin

So the immersion of a game, the epicness, all the factors that make an engrossing and memorable game, are somehow diminished because you'll have to take a few seconds out once, maybe twice, during the gameplay so that you can experience more game?

Wow. That is... bizarre. Your focus is in the wrong place if that's what you're focusing on with a game.

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

self control, people. learn it please. :|

mestizoman

i remember a certain sticky clearly stating it had no chance:P

no. i said it wasn't coming unless there is an official announcement.

Remember, MGS2 came out for Xbox light years after it came out for PS2 and the PS2 had no problem with sales as well. Now, the PS3 is having a major game drought and needs amazing exclusive games to move some systems, thats why MGS4 is one of the major keys in improving the PS3´s sales. If it comes out for other systems (Possibly PC and 360) then that will be another reason not to need to buy a PS3.Vandam500

[QUOTE="Dualshockin"]Going to the bathroom=/= Disc swapping. The major difference is this:When i'm playing a game that is meant to immerse me in a world of stealth,I do not want to lose the "feel" of the game. Disc swapping,creates that loss,as it does not help in making the game any more realistic and actually removes a large portion of the realism and epic factor.When I used to buy games that involved more than 1 disc 10 years ago and for a select few last-gen,I -knew- I would have to change the disc at a certain unspecified point. Knowing that after you save at point(x) you will be prompted to change the disc,is not a good feeling.Now imagine having to do so more than twice.Hoffgod

So the immersion of a game, the epicness, all the factors that make an engrossing and memorable game, are somehow diminished because you'll have to take a few seconds out once, maybe twice, during the gameplay so that you can experience more game?

Wow. That is... bizarre. Your focus is in the wrong place if that's what you're focusing on with a game.

Please. In that case, I guess loading times are an unacceptable break of immersion in games too. :roll: Seriously stop making a big deal out of something so petty. Disc swapping didn't ruin my experience of Resident Evil 4 (GC version), so why would this? It would be pretty easy to develop a game to avoid disc swapping at inopportune times (i.e swapping between rooms instead of right in the middle of the action).DrinkDuff

Yes for the first part. If it were also for the Ps3,I can honestly say I would be disappointed with Konami,more than 1 disc of gameplay is not going to create the epic illusion that makes gaming as fun as it is.Dualshockin

So somehow that interruption, and a very brief one, is more destructive to the gameplay experience than other interruptions, such as going to the bathroom, getting food or a drink, or just plain living real life?

Is that what you're saying? Because if so, then... wow. You're obsessing WAY too much about this one small thing.

[QUOTE="Hoffgod"]

[QUOTE="Dualshockin"]Going to the bathroom=/= Disc swapping. The major difference is this:When i'm playing a game that is meant to immerse me in a world of stealth,I do not want to lose the "feel" of the game. Disc swapping,creates that loss,as it does not help in making the game any more realistic and actually removes a large portion of the realism and epic factor.When I used to buy games that involved more than 1 disc 10 years ago and for a select few last-gen,I -knew- I would have to change the disc at a certain unspecified point. Knowing that after you save at point(x) you will be prompted to change the disc,is not a good feeling.Now imagine having to do so more than twice.Dualshockin

So the immersion of a game, the epicness, all the factors that make an engrossing and memorable game, are somehow diminished because you'll have to take a few seconds out once, maybe twice, during the gameplay so that you can experience more game?

Wow. That is... bizarre. Your focus is in the wrong place if that's what you're focusing on with a game.

you've never gotten up to use the bathroom, answer the phone, answer the door, eat, blow your nose, etc. while playing a game? you play through mgs games all in one sitting?

Yes for the first part. If it were also for the Ps3,I can honestly say I would be disappointed with Konami,more than 1 disc of gameplay is not going to create the epic illusion that makes gaming as fun as it is.Dualshockin

How is that time any different than a loading screen? I'm guessing you hate watching TV because every 3 minute commercial break must ruin the atmosphere of the show. Complaining about the 5 seconds it takes to switch a disc for the multiple hours of gameplay you get on each disc is an awfully petty argument.

IF MGS4 goes multi-plat Sony is out of the war officially

MikeE21286

you've never gotten up to use the bathroom, answer the phone, answer the door, eat, blow your nose, etc. while playing a game? you play through mgs games all in one sitting?CaseyWegner

I dont really care, I mean it sucks. But im still geting a PS3 and this game. Its not the end of the world. It will be downgraded on 360. Oh boy lems, you get a downgraded, multi-disk, port.

Seriously its really pathetic that people care about the fact its going multi plat then the annoucment that MGS trailer in English will be soon. OR EVEN ABOUT THE WHOLE FRIGGEN GAME.

[QUOTE="Dualshockin"] Yes for the first part. If it were also for the Ps3,I can honestly say I would be disappointed with Konami,more than 1 disc of gameplay is not going to create the epic illusion that makes gaming as fun as it is.Fignewton50

How is that time any different than a loading screen? I'm guessing you hate watching TV because every 3 minute commercial break must ruin the atmosphere of the show. Complaining about the 5 seconds it takes to switch a disc for the multiple hours of gameplay you get on each disc is an awfully petty argument.

CWHBO!

"not gonna happens lems looks at teh sticky"

Casey you have been owned

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]you've never gotten up to use the bathroom, answer the phone, answer the door, eat, blow your nose, etc. while playing a game? you play through mgs games all in one sitting?Dualshockin

So why is one so much more of a big deal?

[QUOTE="Dualshockin"]Yes for the first part. If it were also for the Ps3,I can honestly say I would be disappointed with Konami,more than 1 disc of gameplay is not going to create the epic illusion that makes gaming as fun as it is.Hoffgod

So somehow that interruption, and a very brief one, is more destructive to the gameplay experience than other interruptions, such as going to the bathroom, getting food or a drink, or just plain living real life?

Is that what you're saying? Because if so, then... wow. You're obsessing WAY too much about this one small thing.

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]you've never gotten up to use the bathroom, answer the phone, answer the door, eat, blow your nose, etc. while playing a game? you play through mgs games all in one sitting?Dualshockin

you're telling me that the ability to freeze time so you can get up and take a whiz doesn't ruin the illusion but changing a disc does?

[QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]you've never gotten up to use the bathroom, answer the phone, answer the door, eat, blow your nose, etc. while playing a game? you play through mgs games all in one sitting?Hoffgod

So why is one so much more of a big deal?

Hmm if true this will definitely be a blow to the PS3. No I don't mean it in the way of the game going multiplat as a reason, but whats actually behind it. Kojima has said it many times that he did not want the game in something other then a PS3... The chances of the PS3 turning out like the PS2 in terms of support will definitely become thinner if this happens.

Whats to become of other 3rd party exclusives in the PS3? Future exclusive support? If this becomes reality, it will start to sound like valid questions.

When you see yourself putting one of the series that gained life on the PS platform, in a platform that didn't do that well to begin with said series... We'll just have to wait and see.

[QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]you've never gotten up to use the bathroom, answer the phone, answer the door, eat, blow your nose, etc. while playing a game? you play through mgs games all in one sitting?Hoffgod

So why is one so much more of a big deal?

I bet the 360 version will feature extra content. It better, considering it's gonna be released like a year later.InsaneBasura

Where you gonna put that extra content? ON another dvd9 disc or your big 20 gig hard drive?

[QUOTE="MikeE21286"]

IF MGS4 goes multi-plat Sony is out of the war officially

Timstuff

They still have their first party games. MGS4 is only one game.

[QUOTE="Hoffgod"]

[QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]you've never gotten up to use the bathroom, answer the phone, answer the door, eat, blow your nose, etc. while playing a game? you play through mgs games all in one sitting?Dualshockin

So why is one so much more of a big deal?

[QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]you've never gotten up to use the bathroom, answer the phone, answer the door, eat, blow your nose, etc. while playing a game? you play through mgs games all in one sitting?CaseyWegner

you're telling me that the ability to freeze time so you can get up and take a whiz doesn't ruin the illusion but changing a disc does?

The point in which you have to switch a disk is normally an appropriate one, they don't just make you switch the disk when your in the middle of a heated gun fight.smokeydabear076

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]you've never gotten up to use the bathroom, answer the phone, answer the door, eat, blow your nose, etc. while playing a game? you play through mgs games all in one sitting?Dualshockin

I really hope MGS4 gets released on the 360. I dont even want the game, Ijust want to sit back and watch the chaos.

If this becomes reality then I will be happy.smokeydabear076

if they make it at all for the 360, that is.

[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"]The point in which you have to switch a disk is normally an appropriate one, they don't just make you switch the disk when your in the middle of a heated gun fight.Dualshockin

man you've spent the better part of the evening pissing and moaning about the horrors of swapping discs. can't you accept that if disc swapping did become necessary, Kijoma would ensure that it doesn't in any way hinder the gameplay experience? Can't you just be objective enough to realize that? Save your evening and be rational.

It does in fact break the immersion.And this is why I usually try my best not to drink alot of fluids before gaming.I make an attempt to avoid a potential problem. Now with loading,depends on what genre you're talking about.GOW 2 for example,loading points were usually 3 secs-5 secs long(GOW2 had 0 loading screens but had very short loading points)I highly doubt you can get up from your sofa,walk to the console,open the disc tray change a disc,close the disc tray,start up the game again,and walk back to the sofa in a matter of 3 seconds.Dualshockin

i LoL'ed wow funniest thing i read. your comment reminded me of the world of warcraft south park episode. where cartman calls his mom through the intercom so he can bring him food and do #2. wow :lol:

[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"]The point in which you have to switch a disk is normally an appropriate one, they don't just make you switch the disk when your in the middle of a heated gun fight.Dualshockin