Official Ninja Gaiden 2 Discussion Thread - KEEP IT ALL HERE! or face Suspension

[QUOTE="SmokieX"]I just broke my controller 5 minutes ago:( I got angry and threw my controller on the floor and now the right thumbstick is all loose and wobbly.gohan2710

Jesus, the end of chapter 6 is where this game starts to get ridiculous. Room after room, after room, after room of werewolves, those annoying ass snake skeleton looking things, and ninjas with exploding kunai. If that was not enough, once you finally get to Volf, he leaves you to even more werewolves and even more of those fast, snake skeletons. Then when you finally get to the Colosseum, the doors shut and you are bombarded with fireballs from those flying dragons with hardly any cover. Then finally the fight with Volf, who is not so bad, but after you beat him, the whole damn stadium full of werewolves attack you.

Now I am sure this was not a problem for a lot of you, however, my last save point before the Volf fight was with half a health bar, no ninpo, and no grains of life. So, after finally beating Volf with just a smidgen of health left, something just told me that the stadium full of werewolves were about to attack. Lo and behold, just when you though that you had been through enough insanity.....more god damn werewolves....uhhh.

Anyway, sorry about the rant, but I just had to say, I think that I have just screwed myself royally by not making 2-3 save slots. So let this be a warning to anyone who is just overwriting slot 1 all the way through. Turn on manual save and make a few saves per chapter with full supplies at different points. Otherwise, it will be a matter of time before you are in a similar dire situation like me, lol.

This game was smooth sailing for me up to this point, then all of the sudden the difficulty just ramped up to a "you have got to be kidding me" level. The reviews were not lying when they said that sometimes you will feel as if you have got the flow of things, only to be thrown a curve ball and have the difficulty jump up to a relentlessy ridiculous level. And yes, I have played and beaten the first one, but this one is definitely harder once you get to chapter 6, I do not care what anyone says.

ironcreed

Interesting impressions. Chapter 6 and Chapter 7 is actually when the game started really picking up for me.

Btw, for the warewolves after Volf, you're meant to use the Scythe that Ryu takes from Volf. I got through them using a mix of Lunar and Kusarigama since I didn't want to use a Scythe at only level 1, but I ended up getting a temporary loss in power (thanks random thunderstorms) before I saved so I had to do it again.

The second time against that group, I did use the Scythe and I tore through them with absolute ease, none of them hitting me at all. The Scythe is seriously a monster, even at its lowest level. Use if often, as it's easily the most effective "non-special" weapon in the game, and much like the Dabilahro from NG/NGB, it makes a great Boss Killer.

And as for the snake skeletons, I actually consider those to be some of the easiest enemies in the game. But maybe that's because I've had the Kusarigama at level 3 since I've gotten it, and it smacks them around quite well especially with its UT (second best UT in the game after the Scythe's with normal weapons). And the fact that those guys make up the majority of Test of Valor 4 has made that one by far the easiest so far.

And yeah, manual saves are the way to go. That was one of the very first settings I changed. It's worth it just for bosses. If you go up against a boss and you don't figure out his pattern until late, and you wasted some herbs in the process, the smart thing is to reload the save and use your knowledge to beat him more effectively now and save the health. Unless you farm essence, which is another way to go.

Am I the only person that uses the Dual Kitanas a lot, or even at all? I literally see nobody ever talking about them. They're so good though, especially at level 3. I use them much, much more than the Dragon Sword.
Zeliard9

[QUOTE="gohan2710"][QUOTE="SmokieX"]I just broke my controller 5 minutes ago:( I got angry and threw my controller on the floor and now the right thumbstick is all loose and wobbly.SmokieX

My xbox RROD so i can't play this until late June :(Kratos_OMEGA

Sorry about that, man. It will be here before you know it.

Am I the only person that uses the Dual Kitanas a lot, or even at all? I literally see nobody ever talking about them. They're so good though, especially at level 3. I use them much, much more than the Dragon Sword.
Zeliard9

The game's all right... but christ, why do they make us use the bow and arrow? That's the weakest part of the game, platforming as well.Ukerans

That water dragon boss made me rage like the fist of the north star.

Such a sloppy un-polished boss fight.

Ok I'm done with Warrior. I can't believe I beat the last boss with only one life bar. Im around 800 in the leaderboards. Now for Mentor :twisted:

[QUOTE="Lionheart08"][QUOTE="therealmcc0y"][QUOTE="comeonthehoops"]

therealmccOy you have just become my most hated fanboy of the last few weeks. congrats

therealmcc0y

w00t

I know your finding humor in this, but it's definitely not worth getting moded over.

Back on Topic: Still think NG2 will get AAA here.

Ive got 5 warnings today :o

Back on topic: I think NG2 will get AAA here

all in a day's work for your friendly neighborhood troll.

Am I the only person that uses the Dual Kitanas a lot, or even at all? I literally see nobody ever talking about them. They're so good though, especially at level 3. I use them much, much more than the Dragon Sword.
Zeliard9

Has anyone beaten Test of Valor 1 on mentor yet?

I was close couple of times. They aren't too difficult after you learn to evade them, but it's mentally challenging cause you have to face so many of them. Longest I manage to stay alive was for 13 minutes. I was able to completly wipe out all the shaman ninjas.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVvRat8B9-s

[QUOTE="Ukerans"]The game's all right... but christ, why do they make us use the bow and arrow? That's the weakest part of the game, platforming as well.Shinobishyguy

That water dragon boss made me rage like the fist of the north star.

Such a sloppy un-polished boss fight.

The best weapon(s) in the game is either the Tonfas or the Kusari-gama.yellowandmushy

I'm thinking about playing a + new game on warrior mode so I can try out the other weapons more. I kinda burned out playing mentor from playing test of the valor 1.

Dying to try the kusari-gama and eclipse scythe again.

Wow wtf have they done to Ninja Gaiden?

The game is super easy. Team Ninja has casualized it to death. You cant understand whats happening because of the camera. And the blood effects clutter the screen. This CRAPPY system of regenarating health sucks! The game feels so much easier than DMC4... Freaking DMC4 where enemies rarely attack you. This isnt Ninja Gaiden, this is more like God of War. Switching weapons should be realtime. Path of Warrior feels like an easier mode than Ninja Dog. And why did they make it easier to do the flying swalllow? I could easily spam and kill all enemies with it. Adding tutorials in every chest? are you kiddin me?Even the dodging is an attack... What the hell is this

They taken out the challenge... The game sucks so bad.

this is a freaking disgrace... I now understand why this game is flopping everywhere. If I was a Critic I wouldve given this game a 4...oh the graphics suck BIG BIG time. Really looks like a Xbox game.

Im so Dissappointed!

Wow wtf have they done to Ninja Gaiden?

The game is super easy. Team Ninja has casualized it to death. You cant understand whats happening because of the camera. And the blood effects clutter the screen. This CRAPPY system of regenarating health sucks! The game feels so much easier than DMC4... Freaking DMC4 where enemies rarely attack you. This isnt Ninja Gaiden, this is more like God of War. Switching weapons should be realtime. Path of Warrior feels like an easier mode than Ninja Dog. And why did they make it easier to do the flying swalllow? I could easily spam and kill all enemies with it. Adding tutorials in every chest? are you kiddin me?Even the dodging is an attack... What the hell is this

They taken out the challenge... The game sucks so bad.

this is a freaking disgrace... I now understand why this game is flopping everywhere. If I was a Critic I wouldve given this game a 4...oh the graphics suck BIG BIG time. Really looks like a Xbox game.

Im so Dissappointed!

Tamarind_Face

this is what you said earlier (you're a troll and a HUGE liar):

h! xbox fanboys...

you doubted me when I said this game is a flop.

You said I was just trolling...

But here we see that its true.

now would you guys doubt me again...

For I saw it. Knew it. Told it.

No need to apologize... For all I care is for you to never doubt me.

FLOOOOOPPPPP!

I called it.

Wow wtf have they done to Ninja Gaiden?

The game is super easy. Team Ninja has casualized it to death. You cant understand whats happening because of the camera. And the blood effects clutter the screen. This CRAPPY system of regenarating health sucks! The game feels so much easier than DMC4... Freaking DMC4 where enemies rarely attack you. This isnt Ninja Gaiden, this is more like God of War. Switching weapons should be realtime. Path of Warrior feels like an easier mode than Ninja Dog. And why did they make it easier to do the flying swalllow? I could easily spam and kill all enemies with it. Adding tutorials in every chest? are you kiddin me?Even the dodging is an attack... What the hell is this

They taken out the challenge... The game sucks so bad.

this is a freaking disgrace... I now understand why this game is flopping everywhere. If I was a Critic I wouldve given this game a 4...oh the graphics suck BIG BIG time. Really looks like a Xbox game.

Im so Dissappointed!

Tamarind_Face

im not even going to bother with this post givin you're reputation as a anti 360 poser.

"They taken out the challenge... The game sucks so bad."

this comment alone make's you sound 12

Wow wtf have they done to Ninja Gaiden?

The game is super easy. Team Ninja has casualized it to death. You cant understand whats happening because of the camera. And the blood effects clutter the screen. This CRAPPY system of regenarating health sucks! The game feels so much easier than DMC4... Freaking DMC4 where enemies rarely attack you. This isnt Ninja Gaiden, this is more like God of War. Switching weapons should be realtime. Path of Warrior feels like an easier mode than Ninja Dog. And why did they make it easier to do the flying swalllow? I could easily spam and kill all enemies with it. Adding tutorials in every chest? are you kiddin me?Even the dodging is an attack... What the hell is this

They taken out the challenge... The game sucks so bad.

this is a freaking disgrace... I now understand why this game is flopping everywhere. If I was a Critic I wouldve given this game a 4...oh the graphics suck BIG BIG time. Really looks like a Xbox game.

Im so Dissappointed!

Tamarind_Face

Here you go, you're getting attention. We are officially giving you attention.

Happy? Good. :|

Wow wtf have they done to Ninja Gaiden?

The game is super easy. Team Ninja has casualized it to death. You cant understand whats happening because of the camera. And the blood effects clutter the screen. This CRAPPY system of regenarating health sucks! The game feels so much easier than DMC4... Freaking DMC4 where enemies rarely attack you. This isnt Ninja Gaiden, this is more like God of War. Switching weapons should be realtime. Path of Warrior feels like an easier mode than Ninja Dog. And why did they make it easier to do the flying swalllow? I could easily spam and kill all enemies with it. Adding tutorials in every chest? are you kiddin me?Even the dodging is an attack... What the hell is this

They taken out the challenge... The game sucks so bad.

this is a freaking disgrace... I now understand why this game is flopping everywhere. If I was a Critic I wouldve given this game a 4...oh the graphics suck BIG BIG time. Really looks like a Xbox game.

Im so Dissappointed!

Tamarind_Face

[QUOTE="gohan2710"]anyone else feels cheap when they use the flying swallow ? :lol: i whored the hell out of when fighting against the dragon bone boss and volf lolTamarind_Face

"please go troll elsewhere"

yeah but your post agrees to mine. Yeah freaking troller, amirite?

What I dont understand is why are some game reviewers callin this game harder than the previous one... Huge BS.

stop it. we all know what kind of poster you are.

Another thing is when you do a successful flying swallow it give you another one. I loved using flying swallow because I felt like a ninja... walking sideways on a wall then slashing through the necks of enemies. Now it feels like im superman.

And the Y button? what the hell... one button kill? Worse than QTE of God of War.

Hold Y for easy canned combo..

Who cares what I say... im just trollin.

[QUOTE="gohan2710"]anyone else feels cheap when they use the flying swallow ? :lol: i whored the hell out of when fighting against the dragon bone boss and volf lolTamarind_Face

"please go troll elsewhere"

yeah but your post agrees to mine. Yeah freaking troller, amirite?

What I dont understand is why are some game reviewers callin this game harder than the previous one... Huge BS.

Edit: Just wondering, how did you guys get past the fire armadillo boss? That took me 5 or 6 fights to figure out myself lol.

Even if you were playing the game

Vaasman

don't worry, look at his post history.... he didn't play it. he is one of those guys ruining the forum with random trolling.

sad really

[QUOTE="Vaasman"]

Even if you were playing the game

Always-Honest

don't worry, look at his post history.... he didn't play it. he is one of those guys ruining the forum with random trolling.

sad really

what's funny is that he's pretending we dont already know what kind of poster he is.

started a new file.

I basically hit a wall with the final boss, the archfiend.

Two frigging forms and I only have two recovery items. So I just quit and started a new file

Now that I have seen what the game will throw at me in it's chapters, I'll be better prepared next time.

started a new file.

I basically hit a wall with the final boss, the archfiend.

Two frigging forms and I only have two recovery items. So I just quit and started a new file

Now that I have seen what the game will throw at me in it's chapters, I'll be better prepared next time.

Shinobishyguy

You could of just loaded your last save. Since the last save is at the save point and murasama shop. It will be a hassle fighting your way back to the final boss, but still it's better than starting a new game.

[QUOTE="Always-Honest"][QUOTE="Vaasman"]

Even if you were playing the game

lawlessx

don't worry, look at his post history.... he didn't play it. he is one of those guys ruining the forum with random trolling.

sad really

what's funny is that he's pretending we dont already know what kind of poster he is.

Up to the Aqua Capital; I'm finally started to shake the rust off and am dying considerably less. I almost quit over the dumb fish train boss, but now I'm very glad I didn't. Werewolves have to be most fun opponents yet.D0013ER

I own all three current gen consoles... And yeah may I show you this:

I own all three current gen consoles... And yeah may I show you this:

Tamarind_Face

lol..which site did you steal that pic from ??

Up to the Aqua Capital; I'm finally started to shake the rust off and am dying considerably less. I almost quit over the dumb fish train boss, but now I'm very glad I didn't. Werewolves have to be most fun opponents yet.D0013ER

Oh, just wait until you get about half way into chapter 6. Then you will start having some REAL fun....guaranteed.:P

[QUOTE="Tamarind_Face"]

I own all three current gen consoles... And yeah may I show you this:

primetime2121

lol..which site did you steal that pic from ??

http://i31.tinypic.com

I own all three current gen consoles... And yeah may I show you this:

Tamarind_Face

Try harder next time

I own all three current gen consoles... And yeah may I show you this:Tamarind_Face

I don't believe anyone ever doubted (or cared about) you owning all consoles, it's your ability to contribute meaningfully to this thread that has been called into question.

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]

started a new file.

I basically hit a wall with the final boss, the archfiend.

Two frigging forms and I only have two recovery items. So I just quit and started a new file

Now that I have seen what the game will throw at me in it's chapters, I'll be better prepared next time.

istreakforfood

You could of just loaded your last save. Since the last save is at the save point and murasama shop. It will be a hassle fighting your way back to the final boss, but still it's better than starting a new game.

My save was at that wierd black altar. I couldn't back track to get more yellow essenceShinobishyguy

I found this by accident. If you want to farm for essence or are short of essence you can do so at the pool of blodd that is filled with those huge sea monsters. The area before you meet Genshin and Elizebet for the last time. I not sure if they respawn again after you leave and re-enter the area, but they defitnetly respawn when you go save and re-load the game.

tip - chapter 8 boss

upgrade ur scythe to level 3, when ur facing him, charge ur scythe as much as u can, and when he is about to get hit u,swing away, remember to take the annoying soldiers or in my case, the flying robot things out before u do this, each swing takes at least 15% percent of his health away, have fun

After defeating Volf, how many of those darn werewolves do I have to kill for crying out loud? My last and only save before getting to Volf is such that I only have half a health bar, with no ninpo or grains of life left. I can get through Volf without getting touched I have fought him so much, but I cannot get past those god forsaken werewolves with only half a health bar.

I can manage to slice through quite a few of them, but it just seems as if they just keep coming, lol. And while I am trying to kill off some of them, others that are completely off camera are throwing body parts at me and I cannot even see where the hell they are coming from....talk about cheap. Then of course I always die before I can finish them off.

I must have tried for 3 hours straight last night and tonight and I cannot for the life of me get past this part of the game. It is driving me insane. If I they just would have put a Murimasa shop before the Volf fight I would be set, as all I need is maybe one grains of life, and I would be fine. But no, after all of the hell that I went through to get to Volf, there is no chance to go back and buy anything you may need to aid you.

I swear, part of me really loves this game, as the combat is so addictive, as is to be expected. But, there is just so much more wrong with this game in terms of glitches, bad level design and off the charts cheapness at times from lackluster bosses. The first NG was frustrating, but allowed you to sit back and block sometimes while contemplating your next strategy. This game makes you stay on the offensive, rendering the greater part of your defense null. As if you block too much, you will get grappled to the ground and attacked until most of your health is gone.

Although the gameplay in NG 2 has been refined even more, the hordes of enemies in tight corridors, the camera that gets stuck in walls, enemies off screen that are spamming you with projectiles while you are in the middle of slaying a horde of other foes and the overall random cheapness kind of nullifies the great gameplay in a sense. I still dig the game, but it is no where near as good or balanced as I would have liked. In fact, a lot of it feels unfinished to say the least.

In conclusion, for the first few chapters, I was under the impression that maybe the game was a bit underrated, but now I am beginning to see exactly what all of the reviews have been talking about. Therefore, I know it is not just me being weaksauce at the game. As I never had this much trouble with the first one on normal. It just felt more balanced to me, and a hell of a lot more polished.

I own all three current gen consoles... And yeah may I show you this:

Tamarind_Face

Sure. Take a picture with a piece of paper and your Gamespot usename next to all your consoles.

After defeating Volf, how many of those darn werewolves do I have to kill for crying out loud? My last and only save before getting to Volf is such that I only have half a health bar, with no ninpo or grains of life left. I can get through Volf without getting touched I have fought him so much, but I cannot get past those god forsaken werewolves with only half a health bar.

I can manage to slice through quite a few of them, but it just seems as if they just keep coming, lol. And while I am trying to kill off some of them, others that are completely off camera are throwing body parts at me and I cannot even see where the hell they are coming from....talk about cheap. Then of course I always die before I can finish them off.

I must have tried for 3 hours straight last night and tonight and I cannot for the life of me get past this part of the game. It is driving me insane. If I they just would have put a Murimasa shop before the Volf fight I would be set, as all I need is maybe one grains of life, and I would be fine. But no, after all of the hell that I went through to get to Volf, there is no chance to go back and buy anything you may need to aid you.

I swear, part of me really loves this game, as the combat is so addictive, as is to be expected. But, there is just so much more wrong with this game in terms of glitches, bad level design and off the charts cheapness at times from lackluster bosses. The first NG was frustrating, but allowed you to sit back and block sometimes while contemplating your next strategy. This game makes you stay on the offensive, rendering the greater part of your defense null. As if you block too much, you will get grappled to the ground and attacked until most of your health is gone.

Although the gameplay in NG 2 has been refined even more, the hordes of enemies in tight corridors, the camera that gets stuck in walls, enemies off screen that are spamming you with projectiles while you are in the middle of slaying a horde of other foes and the overall random cheapness kind of nullifies the great gameplay in a sense. I still dig the game, but it is no where near as good or balanced as I would have liked. In fact, a lot of it feels unfinished to say the least.

In conclusion, for the first few chapters, I was under the impression that maybe the game was a bit underrated, but now I am beginning to see exactly what all of the reviews have been talking about. Therefore, I know it is not just me being weaksauce at the game. As I never had this much trouble with the first one on normal. It just felt more balanced to me, and a hell of a lot more polished.

ironcreed

Are you serious? Use the Scythe that you get from Volf, man. It cuts through the warewolves like swiss cheese. You don't even have to use a UT. The Scythe has possibly the highest dismemberment rate of any weapon in the game, or one of the highest, so you just gotta do some wide-arc combos (which most of them are) and use OTs to finish them off quickly. You should be able to get through it without them touching you if you dodge properly. Learn to dash-cancel-jump-cancel-dash if you don't know how, it's incredibly valuable.

And frankly, you shouldn't be getting yourself in a position where you have no potions left before a boss fight. That's what manual saves are for. :P

By the way, the Chapters starting from 7 are mostly the best ones in the game, especially the last several ones. The game picks up graphically, too, since the later environments are much nicer-looking.