lol I had to do it.rybe, you're a cold, cold man.
BTW, where are the Cows?
Dreams-Visions
The cows though prolly do not want to come in. Really though there is not much they can say at this point.
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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]lol I had to do it.rybe, you're a cold, cold man.
BTW, where are the Cows?
rybe1025
The cows though prolly do not want to come in. Really though there is not much they can say at this point.
They come in for sure. But they leave instantly :P
[QUOTE="ChristopherM80"]Please keep in mind that PS3 price cut and new 40 GB model didnt hit the scene until November, so these PS3 numbers are just for the regular priced PS3shearMario
I thought the PS3 price cut was made in mid October and then the 40GB model was released start of November.
Oh your right. Ignore my first post people.
Behold the logic of VGFail!
Hardware Sales:
NPD:
WII 519K
NDS 458K
360 366K
PSP 286K
PS2 184K
PS3 121K
VGCharts:
Xbox 360 564,796
DS 550,399
Wii 512,477
PSP 305,017
PS3 156,128
PS2 161,797
Software Sales:
NPD:
01. 360 HALO 3 * MICROSOFT (CORP) 433.8K
02. 360 GUITAR HERO III: LEGENDS OF ROCK W/ GUIT ACTIVISION (CORP) 383.2K
03. WII GUITAR HERO III: LEGENDS OF ROCK W/ GUIT ACTIVISION (CORP) 286.3K
04. PS2 GUITAR HERO III: LEGENDS OF ROCK W/ GUIT ACTIVISION (CORP) 271.1K
05. NDS LEGEND OF ZELDA: PHANTOM HOURGLASS NINTENDO OF AMERICA 262.8K
06. WII PLAY W/ REMOTE NINTENDO OF AMERICA 239.7K
07. 360 HALF LIFE 2: EPISODE 2 THE ORANGE BOX ELECTRONIC ARTS 238.4K
08. PS2 GUITAR HERO III: LEGENDS OF ROCK ACTIVISION (CORP) 231.7K
09. PS2 FIFA SOCCER 08 ELECTRONIC ARTS 129.7K
10. NDS BRAIN AGE 2: MORE TRAINING IN MINUTES A NINTENDO OF AMERICA 116.9K
VGCharts:
1) Guitar Hero 3 (360) 798,671
2) Halo 3 (360) 682,813
3) Half Life 2 (360) 423,587
4) The Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass (DS)284,565
5) Guitar Hero 3 (Wii) 271,053
6) Wii Play (Wii) 262,332
7) Guitar Hero 3 (PS2) 254,596
8) Fifa 08 (PS2) 166,068
9) Star Wars Battlefront: Renegade Squadron (PSP) 161,479
10) Ace Combat 6 (360) 156,145
:lol:
[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="hihatrider"]october is a 4 week accounting period as opposed to 5 which is what september was. even with that, wii sold about 20 thousand more units. is the damn thing really that fun?
Gunraidan
Not particularly. Frankly, I can't explain its popularity directly. But Galaxy is a masterpiece. What people were buying the console for before this game...I may never know.
Virtual Console, Wii Sports, Prime 3, and Twlight Princess. Other then that future bettings (which is seeming to pay off).
People were really buying Wii's for Wii Sports? :? TP...maybe in the beginning, but over time? Prime 3...not really (no noticable spike in Wii sales in August). VC...why?
People were really buying Wii's for Wii Sports? :? TP...maybe in the beginning, but over time? Prime 3...not really (no noticable spike in Wii sales in August). VC...why?
Dreams-Visions
Wii Sports with friends = Awesomeness.
Virtual Console = Genesis + SNES + NES + TB16 + N64 > Anything these so called "next or new gen" systems can produce.
I just cannot see Japanese developers abandoning the 360 this time around.
Not with their software sales.
If GH3 sold more on the 360 than on the PS2 that right there is saying a LOT.
BlueBarad
The thing is the Japanese Appealing games sell like pure poo poo on the Xbox consoles. Look at Eternal Sonata that didn't even break 75,000 copies in North America, Ridge Racer VI being the worst selling in the franchise, No Japanese centric game has surpassed 250,000 copies in the systems history, etc. Japanese centric games have always sold horrible on the Xbox consoles because the Xbox fanbase is too into Western Gaming here and nobody buys the system in japan.
[QUOTE="badgert"]For all the PS3 haters I realize the PS3 is doing poorly in those numbers but this is before the 400 dollar one came out. I might be wrong and the 400 dollar one might not move tht many systems I;m just saying.Dreams-Visions
when was the pricedrop? I can't remember?
I thought it was november something.rybe, you're a cold, cold man.
BTW, where are the Cows?
Dreams-Visions
They are hiding from this thread.
[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]People were really buying Wii's for Wii Sports? :? TP...maybe in the beginning, but over time? Prime 3...not really (no noticable spike in Wii sales in August). VC...why?
Gunraidan
Wii Sports with friends = Awesomeness.
Virtual Console = Genesis + SNES + NES + TB16 + N64 > Anything these so called "next or new gen" systems can produce.
Wii Sports = fun with friends for about 30 minutes.
VC = all those same games for free on PC...or PSP...or just about any other console.
Wii Sports = fun with friends for about 30 minutes.
VC = all those same games for free on PC...or PSP...or just about any other console.
Dreams-Visions
Wii Sports = Fun for more then 30 minutes if you play with friends.
Virtual Console - On PC or PSP = Illegal and with many glitches in emulation.
PS3 users better start buying software or they will really start having toruble getting games. Again not one PS3 game in the top 10.rybe1025
I fail to understand how R&C could sell so miserably. I mean, with the lack high quality games on the console one would expect that a game from the renown R&C-series to really push things forward. PS3 games should sell well since the internal competition isn't as stiff as for the 360...but for some reason, they aren't moving. I don't get it.
[QUOTE="Gunraidan"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]People were really buying Wii's for Wii Sports? :? TP...maybe in the beginning, but over time? Prime 3...not really (no noticable spike in Wii sales in August). VC...why?
Dreams-Visions
Wii Sports with friends = Awesomeness.
Virtual Console = Genesis + SNES + NES + TB16 + N64 > Anything these so called "next or new gen" systems can produce.
Wii Sports = fun with friends for about 30 minutes.
VC = all those same games for free on PC...or PSP...or just about any other console.
so true. i find it funny when some people get excited for a VC releases. it's like, dude i've had that game on emu for years, what's there to be excited about?
I just cannot see Japanese developers abandoning the 360 this time around.
Not with their software sales.
If GH3 sold more on the 360 than on the PS2 that right there is saying a LOT.
BlueBarad
It sold more on the PS2. You have to add the ones sold w/ and w/o the guitar.
Those numbers are not NPD that is NeoGAF prediction numbers.More software numbers:
[360 Ace Combat 6] = 92.5K
[360 Guitar Hero III] = 490.9K
[360 Halo 3] = 394.5K
[360 The Orange Box] = 238.4K
[NDS Zelda: Phantom Hourglass] = 262.8K
[PS2 Guitar Hero III] = 502.7K
[PS3 Ratchet & Clank Future] = 74.5K
[PS3 Guitar Hero III] = 105.8K
[WII Guitar Hero III] = 286.3K
[WII Metroid Prime 3] = 45.2KInteresting to note AC6 and Ratchet released on the same day. I would've guessed Ratchet would've sold more by looks like I would've lost that bet. PS3 owners need to buy games or they will not get games...
maabus99
[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]People were really buying Wii's for Wii Sports? :? TP...maybe in the beginning, but over time? Prime 3...not really (no noticable spike in Wii sales in August). VC...why?
Gunraidan
Wii Sports with friends = Awesomeness.
Virtual Console = Genesis + SNES + NES + TB16 + N64 > Anything these so called "next or new gen" systems can produce.
I just cannot see Japanese developers abandoning the 360 this time around.
Not with their software sales.
If GH3 sold more on the 360 than on the PS2 that right there is saying a LOT.
BlueBarad
The thing is the Japanese Appealing games sell like pure poo poo on the Xbox consoles. Look at Eternal Sonata that didn't even break 75,000 copies in North America, Ridge Racer VI being the worst selling in the franchise, No Japanese centric game has surpassed 250,000 copies in the systems history, etc. Japanese centric games have always sold horrible on the Xbox consoles because the Xbox fanbase is too into Western Gaming here and nobody buys the system in japan.
Ace Combat 6 disagrees with you. You FAIL!!!
[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="badgert"]For all the PS3 haters I realize the PS3 is doing poorly in those numbers but this is before the 400 dollar one came out. I might be wrong and the 400 dollar one might not move tht many systems I;m just saying.lithuania_pride
when was the pricedrop? I can't remember?
I thought it was november something.It was. The 40 gb price drop happened on November 3rd people.
[QUOTE="lithuania_pride"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="badgert"]For all the PS3 haters I realize the PS3 is doing poorly in those numbers but this is before the 400 dollar one came out. I might be wrong and the 400 dollar one might not move tht many systems I;m just saying.Firelore29
when was the pricedrop? I can't remember?
I thought it was november something.It was. The 40 gb price drop happened on November 3rd people.
But does anyone honestly think the 40gb spike will push it past the 360 or Wii for that matter. I say no way of that happening.[QUOTE="BlueBarad"]I just cannot see Japanese developers abandoning the 360 this time around.
Not with their software sales.
If GH3 sold more on the 360 than on the PS2 that right there is saying a LOT.
BlazeOC
It sold more on the PS2. You have to add the ones sold w/ and w/o the guitar.
Was looking at the numbers.
What's interesting are the Wii numbers. In Sept, they sold 501,000 units and in Oct., they sold 519,000 units. Sept was a 5 week period, so they sold 100,200 units per week. Oct was a 4 week period so they sold 129,750 units per. Looks like Nintendo is starting to bring more units to the market.
I'm predicting that in November, they can reach as high as 800k units sold. This is all based on Nintendo's financial report predicting that they would sell around 24 million by the end of March 08. Nintendo needs to sell about 5-6 million worldwide during the holidays to have a chance of reaching that number. So with the increase in units during Oct. can be seen as partial proof of this happening.
[QUOTE="Gunraidan"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="hihatrider"]october is a 4 week accounting period as opposed to 5 which is what september was. even with that, wii sold about 20 thousand more units. is the damn thing really that fun?
Dreams-Visions
Not particularly. Frankly, I can't explain its popularity directly. But Galaxy is a masterpiece. What people were buying the console for before this game...I may never know.
Virtual Console, Wii Sports, Prime 3, and Twlight Princess. Other then that future bettings (which is seeming to pay off).
People were really buying Wii's for Wii Sports? :? TP...maybe in the beginning, but over time? Prime 3...not really (no noticable spike in Wii sales in August). VC...why?
It's not possible for the Wii to have a sales spike, unless Nintendo suddenly ship more units.
Ace Combat 6 disagrees with you. You FAIL!!!
HSYOON_1
Ace Combat 6 isn't too "Japanese". I mean I know it has some fantasy elements to it but over all it leans towards the "Western" front. Not only that but i wouldn't call it amazing selling since it isn't even on the Top 10 list meaning that it sold under 100,000 copies. But again it IS it's first week.
[QUOTE="maabus99"]Those numbers are not NPD that is NeoGAF prediction numbers.More software numbers:
[360 Ace Combat 6] = 92.5K
[360 Guitar Hero III] = 490.9K
[360 Halo 3] = 394.5K
[360 The Orange Box] = 238.4K
[NDS Zelda: Phantom Hourglass] = 262.8K
[PS2 Guitar Hero III] = 502.7K
[PS3 Ratchet & Clank Future] = 74.5K
[PS3 Guitar Hero III] = 105.8K
[WII Guitar Hero III] = 286.3K
[WII Metroid Prime 3] = 45.2KInteresting to note AC6 and Ratchet released on the same day. I would've guessed Ratchet would've sold more by looks like I would've lost that bet. PS3 owners need to buy games or they will not get games...
rybe1025
The absolute most that R&C could have sold would have been 116k because Brain Age 2 sold that many and was 10th spot per NPD.
[QUOTE="lithuania_pride"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="badgert"]For all the PS3 haters I realize the PS3 is doing poorly in those numbers but this is before the 400 dollar one came out. I might be wrong and the 400 dollar one might not move tht many systems I;m just saying.Firelore29
when was the pricedrop? I can't remember?
I thought it was november something.It was. The 40 gb price drop happened on November 3rd people.
But there was a price drop in mid October before the 40GB model was released
What's interesting are the Wii numbers. In Sept, they sold 501,000 units and in Oct., they sold 519,000 units. Sept was a 5 week period, so they sold 100,200 units per week. Oct was a 4 week period so they sold 129,750 units per. Looks like Nintendo is starting to bring more units to the market.
I'm predicting that in November, they can reach as high as 800k units sold. This is all based on Nintendo's financial report predicting that they would sell around 24 million by the end of March 08. Nintendo needs to sell about 5-6 million worldwide during the holidays to have a chance of reaching that number. So with the increase in units during Oct. can be seen as partial proof of this happening.
Zhengi
In other words, Nintendo's doing mighty fine.
[QUOTE="Firelore29"]But does anyone honestly think the 40gb spike will push it past the 360 or Wii for that matter. I say no way of that happening.It was. The 40 gb price drop happened on November 3rd people.
rybe1025
Well I don't disagree with that but people are claiming that the price drop didn't do anything for the PS3 sales and you can't tell that from those sales number.
[QUOTE="Firelore29"]It was. The 40 gb price drop happened on November 3rd people.
shearMario
But there was a price drop in mid October before the 40GB model was released
On the 80g but seriously who really wants that anyways?
[QUOTE="Firelore29"][QUOTE="lithuania_pride"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="badgert"]For all the PS3 haters I realize the PS3 is doing poorly in those numbers but this is before the 400 dollar one came out. I might be wrong and the 400 dollar one might not move tht many systems I;m just saying.rybe1025
when was the pricedrop? I can't remember?
I thought it was november something.It was. The 40 gb price drop happened on November 3rd people.
But does anyone honestly think the 40gb spike will push it past the 360 or Wii for that matter. I say no way of that happening.It's going to be interesting. The PS3 might get close to the 360 and have a chance of surpassing, but I don't think it'll reach the Wii numbers. The main question with the PS3 is whether or not it can sustain or even improve upon those numbers through the holiday season.
I believe Sony was reporting that they sold 100k units during the release of the 40gb console. If they sell that much for the month of Nov, 5 week period, then they would sell approximately 500k for the month. Dec should be a whole other beast since it's the main holiday season and this is where all predictions can be thrown out the window since anything can happen.
Hehe, check this out someone found at Neogaf:
"Uhh..I think Sony just admitted that their numbers from last night includes PS2:
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...d=amjWQwK2k3Bs
"The price cut and new model helped Sony increase sales of all consoles including the older PlayStation 2 to 100,000 units in the week ended Nov. 11, spokeswoman Kimberly Otzman said in an e-mail." "
[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="Gunraidan"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="hihatrider"]october is a 4 week accounting period as opposed to 5 which is what september was. even with that, wii sold about 20 thousand more units. is the damn thing really that fun?
Wiicraft
Not particularly. Frankly, I can't explain its popularity directly. But Galaxy is a masterpiece. What people were buying the console for before this game...I may never know.
Virtual Console, Wii Sports, Prime 3, and Twlight Princess. Other then that future bettings (which is seeming to pay off).
People were really buying Wii's for Wii Sports? :? TP...maybe in the beginning, but over time? Prime 3...not really (no noticable spike in Wii sales in August). VC...why?
It's not possible for the Wii to have a sales spike, unless Nintendo suddenly ship more units.
Good point. I always have to consider lack of supply.
[QUOTE="maabus99"]Those numbers are not NPD that is NeoGAF prediction numbers. No, those are ACTUALS from the software prediction thread. I took down the previous post to make sure, but yes those are ACTUAL NUMBERS, says Sonycowboy at Neogaf:More software numbers:
[360 Ace Combat 6] = 92.5K
[360 Guitar Hero III] = 490.9K
[360 Halo 3] = 394.5K
[360 The Orange Box] = 238.4K
[NDS Zelda: Phantom Hourglass] = 262.8K
[PS2 Guitar Hero III] = 502.7K
[PS3 Ratchet & Clank Future] = 74.5K
[PS3 Guitar Hero III] = 105.8K
[WII Guitar Hero III] = 286.3K
[WII Metroid Prime 3] = 45.2KInteresting to note AC6 and Ratchet released on the same day. I would've guessed Ratchet would've sold more by looks like I would've lost that bet. PS3 owners need to buy games or they will not get games...
rybe1025
Actuals:
[360 Ace Combat 6] = 92.5K
[360 Guitar Hero III] = 490.9K
[360 Halo 3] = 394.5K
[360 The Orange Box] = 238.4K
[NDS Zelda: Phantom Hourglass] = 262.8K
[PS2 Guitar Hero III] = 502.7K
[PS3 Ratchet & Clank Future] = 74.5K
[PS3 Guitar Hero III] = 105.8K
[WII Guitar Hero III] = 286.3K
[WII Metroid Prime 3] = 45.2K
I appreciate you looking out for the correct numbers, and I agree something is weird cause Halo 3 numbers don't add up...but here is the source:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=204869&page=2
Again, AC6 outsold Ratchet yet relased on the same day. That is freaking terrible for the PS3. Buy games or die needs to be their new slogan...
[QUOTE="Cubs360"][QUOTE="ToScA-"]Wow...VGChartz were off by 200 000 units for X360 :lol:ToScA-
That was last month dude.
Yes, last month..as in Octoboer.
http://www.vgchartz.com/news/news.php?id=634
Total HW Sales for Xbox 360 during the month of October was 564,796; according to VGCrap.
I believe VGCharts is very inaccurate also but you must remember NPD doesn't get any numbers from places like Walmart and Target(I think),so the numbers would be higher. I myself only go by what the company numbers...they maybe be bloated but theyre better than NPD and VGCharts.Link was not really working for me but if this is true then PS3 will have a bad Nov also and still be at the bottom.Hehe, check this out someone found at Neogaf:
"Uhh..I think Sony just admitted that their numbers from last night includes PS2:
maabus99
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...d=amjWQwK2k3Bs
"The price cut and new model helped Sony increase sales of all consoles including the older PlayStation 2 to 100,000 units in the week ended Nov. 11, spokeswoman Kimberly Otzman said in an e-mail." "
[QUOTE="maabus99"]Link was not really working for me but if this is true then PS3 will have a bad Nov also and still be at the bottom.Hehe, check this out someone found at Neogaf:
"Uhh..I think Sony just admitted that their numbers from last night includes PS2:
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...d=amjWQwK2k3Bs
"The price cut and new model helped Sony increase sales of all consoles including the older PlayStation 2 to 100,000 units in the week ended Nov. 11, spokeswoman Kimberly Otzman said in an e-mail." "rybe1025
Link doesn't work for me either I call BS until this is properly confirmed.
[QUOTE="badgert"]For all the PS3 haters I realize the PS3 is doing poorly in those numbers but this is before the 400 dollar one came out. I might be wrong and the 400 dollar one might not move tht many systems I;m just saying.Dreams-Visions
when was the pricedrop? I can't remember?
80GB price dropped October 18, 40GB released November 2
[QUOTE="rybe1025"][QUOTE="maabus99"]Link was not really working for me but if this is true then PS3 will have a bad Nov also and still be at the bottom.Hehe, check this out someone found at Neogaf:
"Uhh..I think Sony just admitted that their numbers from last night includes PS2:
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...d=amjWQwK2k3Bs
"The price cut and new model helped Sony increase sales of all consoles including the older PlayStation 2 to 100,000 units in the week ended Nov. 11, spokeswoman Kimberly Otzman said in an e-mail." "shearMario
Link doesn't work for me either I call BS until this is properly confirmed.
Might need to register but yeah it isn't working directly, but a lot of folks at the other site are standing by it. I will see if there is a work around for confirmation.
Another interesting note is from IGN is that Ninentendo may release preliminary Galaxy sale numbers shortly.
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