Official "Now that the conferences are over" E3 Discussion Thread

I'd rank the shows like this:

Sony > Microsoft >>>>>>>>>>> Nintendo

Seriously, this is Nintendo's worst keynote in YEARS. "Wii Fit?" This piece of casual trash was the crown jewel of their presentation? Where the crap are the games for hardcore gamers? The only thing that Nintendo accomplished at E3 was further demonstrating that they're moving away from hardcore gaming. The "family toy" market is greener pastures to them, and so they're dumping the hardcore market like we're an ugly prom date.

Timstuff

Sony have honestly conviinved me with the PS3. The price cut, Killzone etc

if i lived in america i'd get the Amazon one today.

NorthlandMan

From what country are you from?,Just wanted to know .....

killzone 2 was being played on stage.

-Renegade

So your telling me that the parts of KZ we saw in the trailer yesterday were played the same way today live? I don't think so. No one can play 100% accurate to the trailer we seen. Maybe in the beginning when there was new footage. But how do we know that wasn't an extended version of the trailer we seen yesterday?

I found that Sony had the best showing. As they had a lack of statistics, which made the 360's and Wii's boring at the beginning.Magical_Guy

So a good conference is very shiny, with trailers that we could see anytime, yet a conference with new announcements, summerizations of the industry's progress, and a number of unknown games being announced is a bad conference?

[QUOTE="ApocalypseXIVV"][QUOTE="Timesplitter14"][QUOTE="ApocalypseXIVV"]

In all this is my evaluation of E3

Sony - 7/10 (not too many new IP's, but just showing MGS was enough for most along with Killzone which looks great graphically)

Nintendo - 6/10 (tried too hard to push their online which still is crappy...Mario kart looks the same as Double Dash?!? come on nintendo)

MS - 4/10 (Worst of them all, and i love my 360...but no Banjo? no Bioshock? thats my most anticipated game of the year...and Halo doesnt look too stunning)

Winner: Sony (by default though...Killzone pretty much gave them the win)

Loser: People who got excited for this...including me. Almost no new IP's announced from any company...basically just a rundown of each companies 2007 lineup...whooopie dooo im already excited for these games...show me something new to look foward too.

I thought this E3 was a steaming pile of crap and looks like next year its pretty much over...Extremely dissapointing attempt from all companies

ANyone else feel this?

Winner: Sony (killzone 2 gave it to them but besides that they kind of win by default)

Banhammer3000

I was VERY satisfied with this E3, but maybe it's because I think KZ2 is the most impressive game ever, both graphically and gameplay-wise (according to the trailers, of course)

thats why i gave sony the W...personally if not for killzone it would be Sony=Nintendo>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>MS

Killzone was the standout of the show...but i wouldnt call it the most impressive game gameplay wise...Bioshock has the most impressive gameplay just with the idea of the game...But killzone looks great

How is possible that you liked Nintendo conference really MS>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Big N by miles and miles.

Nintendo sucked this time,All the casual crap and statistics,Damn I was hyping the wii and now i hate it.Really I can tell it ws bad because I used to hate the Ps3 and Love the wii now all change I hate the wii and like the Ps3.

Ms deliver,I love more my x360 :D.

First i didnt expect anything from Nintendo...i was soo hyped for the MS one which is prolly why im soo bummed...noone could like the MS confrence...they showed us Nothing...no new annoucements, no plans to make anything better...just a fall lineup...a lineup which is outstanding...but i alread knew that... you dont have to have 2 hours to tell me something i know. Wheres the videos? Mass effect in NOV? wonderful...the target date for that game was like last year..i kno its not delayed but good move Bioware right after GTA HALO and Bioshock...thaaaats smart...man that games gonna get overshadowed.

Nintendos sucked and so did sonys but at least they sucked less. I saw playable Metroid, playable mario kart, playable SMG, playable SSBB...some were dissapointing (Mario KART!!1!) but at least i saw it...

They all sucked, i just think with all the hype MS sucked more

[QUOTE="-Renegade"]

killzone 2 was being played on stage.

Truth_Hurts_U

So your telling me that the parts of KZ we saw in the trailer yesterday were played the same way today live? I don't think so. No one can play 100% accurate to the trailer we seen. Maybe in the beginning when there was new footage. But how do we know that wasn't an extended version of the trailer we seen yesterday?

Ummm, just scrolling about, dodging and shooting. How hard is that? The AI was pretty much doing what they do and it is real.

[QUOTE="Timstuff"]

I'd rank the shows like this:

Sony > Microsoft >>>>>>>>>>> Nintendo

Seriously, this is Nintendo's worst keynote in YEARS. "Wii Fit?" This piece of casual trash was the crown jewel of their presentation? Where the crap are the games for hardcore gamers? The only thing that Nintendo accomplished at E3 was further demonstrating that they're moving away from hardcore gaming. The "family toy" market is greener pastures to them, and so they're dumping the hardcore market like we're an ugly prom date.

ithilgore2006

Where are the hardcore games? I supposed SSBB, Super Mario Galaxy, Metroid Prime: Corruption, and most of all Mario Kart Wii don't count as hardcore? And with over a hundred more games coming to the Wii, there's going to be some really high quality games there.

P.S. I'm definately going to buy Wii Fit.

[QUOTE="slothboyadvance"]They were too busy showing off Wii Fit... :(

Why show so many casual games when not that many casuals watch E3 or even know of it?

DaAznSaN

It seemed like a lot more than regular video game editors were at the conference. If there were also people from big newspapers or magazines, they can relay that information to the casuals.

That is still no excuse for them to not reveal ANY details on Brawl or SMG. Whenever they caught my attention (like with Mario Kart Wii), they would talk about it for 2 seconds and inform us on some casual crap like Wii Fit or they would tell us how much they are pushing the industry forward. All of theE3 Conferenceswere dissapointing but Nintendo was the worst of them all. They had momentum and could have pushed it forward, but as of right now they are coasting on their current success.

I hope they announce more on Mario Kart Wii, SSBB, and SMG tomorrow...

[QUOTE="Timstuff"]

I'd rank the shows like this:

Sony > Microsoft >>>>>>>>>>> Nintendo

Seriously, this is Nintendo's worst keynote in YEARS. "Wii Fit?" This piece of casual trash was the crown jewel of their presentation? Where the crap are the games for hardcore gamers? The only thing that Nintendo accomplished at E3 was further demonstrating that they're moving away from hardcore gaming. The "family toy" market is greener pastures to them, and so they're dumping the hardcore market like we're an ugly prom date.

ithilgore2006

Lol. It's never Nintendo's fault is it? Of course hardcore gamers should be blamed, they shouldn't expect Nintendo to deliver a great library of games with their systems, they should follow Nintendo blindly over the cliff they were headed towards with the Gamecube.

Ummm, just scrolling about, dodging and shooting. How hard is that? The AI was pretty much doing what they do and it is real.

NobuoMusicMaker

When I was watching I seen old trailer footage mixed in with new. Sure didn't look like anyone was playing it.

All I get from people is a lot of high expections and low delivery. Well, get used to it.

We've known for a long time that E3 is not going to be what it once was. It's not about YOU anymore, it's about the gaming press, developers, and anyone with more of a vested interest in the gaming industry than "generic teenage male." I can understand how this year was a letdown compared to last year, but if you were expecting this year's event to be like last year's, then the only thing at fault for your disappointment is yourself.

When it comes to pure press conferences, which is what we've all just seen, all three companies were actually successful at what they were trying to convey. Sony's was perhaps more exciting to gamers, but Microsoft's and Nintendo's were equally important. How many of you have been to many press conferences? Statistics and pep-talks are normal.

Anyway, why don't you whinershold off complaints until E3 is *officially* over, huh? The next few days is where the really interesting stuff happens.

MS=Crap. Annoucning that you're killing one of the 360's best seeling points and showing nothing new isn't a good idea. Peter Moore on Rock Band was f***ing GOLD, though.

Ninento=Even worse. Games weren't even shown, just gimmicks and old people+Wii montages. Just "THIS IS MP:3! YOU LOVE IT! NOW ONTO MORE MONTAGES ABOUT HOW OLD PEOPLE PLAY THE WII". A rubber steering wheel? Are you f***ing kidding me? THAT'S their idea of an announcement? YOU'VE BEEN ABLE TO GET THOSE FOR MONTHS. WHAT RE NINTENDO THINKING?

Sony=Yet to see it, but they probably stole the show with Kz2 and MGS4. CHances are it's 99% droaning on about PS2 sales though.

[QUOTE="DaAznSaN"][QUOTE="slothboyadvance"]They were too busy showing off Wii Fit... :(

Why show so many casual games when not that many casuals watch E3 or even know of it?

slothboyadvance

It seemed like a lot more than regular video game editors were at the conference. If there were also people from big newspapers or magazines, they can relay that information to the casuals.

That is still no excuse for them to not reveal ANY details on Brawl or SMG. Whenever they caught my attention (like with Mario Kart Wii), they would talk about it for 2 seconds and inform us on some casual crap like Wii Fit or they would tell us how much they are pushing the industry forward. All of theE3 Conferenceswere dissapointing but Nintendo was the worst of them all. They had momentum and could have pushed it forward, but as of right now they are coasting on their current success.

I hope they announce more on Mario Kart Wii, SSBB, and SMG tomorrow...

Daily weekday updates not enough for you? :wink:

[QUOTE="slothboyadvance"][QUOTE="DaAznSaN"][QUOTE="slothboyadvance"]They were too busy showing off Wii Fit... :(

Why show so many casual games when not that many casuals watch E3 or even know of it?

Tylendal

It seemed like a lot more than regular video game editors were at the conference. If there were also people from big newspapers or magazines, they can relay that information to the casuals.

That is still no excuse for them to not reveal ANY details on Brawl or SMG. Whenever they caught my attention (like with Mario Kart Wii), they would talk about it for 2 seconds and inform us on some casual crap like Wii Fit or they would tell us how much they are pushing the industry forward. All of theE3 Conferenceswere dissapointing but Nintendo was the worst of them all. They had momentum and could have pushed it forward, but as of right now they are coasting on their current success.

I hope they announce more on Mario Kart Wii, SSBB, and SMG tomorrow...

Daily weekday updates not enough for you? :wink:

Not during E3... I expected a trailer (with a newcharacter, perhaps):(

But any other week of the year, daily updates suffice.

Gamers forget that these are trade shows designed to intice the retail markets and news channels of what to expect in the coming months. MS didnt really show anything new but what they did show was (almost) everything that will be out in time for xmas. THAT is what the retail market wants to see and hear. They dont want...oh it is coming in 08. They want results to pass on to the consumers. From that perspective, MS had the best show. It's all a bunch of PR stuff anyway from all three platforms.

Where I find fault is that MS did not say anything about possibly lowering the price of the unit to compete more with the Wii. Oh well, the new chipset should be out in time for xmas and perhaps they will lower the price right before the all important buying season.

Sony had a really good showing of games that wont be out for another year (maybe more). I didn't watch any of the nintendo show but from what I have read at least one of my favorite franchise will continue on the wii. Mario Kart looks to be as fun as any other MK title. I like the idea of a psp "lite" but I would rather have access to the PS store from my existing PSP.

[QUOTE="ithilgore2006"][QUOTE="Timstuff"]

I'd rank the shows like this:

Sony > Microsoft >>>>>>>>>>> Nintendo

Seriously, this is Nintendo's worst keynote in YEARS. "Wii Fit?" This piece of casual trash was the crown jewel of their presentation? Where the crap are the games for hardcore gamers? The only thing that Nintendo accomplished at E3 was further demonstrating that they're moving away from hardcore gaming. The "family toy" market is greener pastures to them, and so they're dumping the hardcore market like we're an ugly prom date.

cheezisgoooood

Lol. It's never Nintendo's fault is it? Of course hardcore gamers should be blamed, they shouldn't expect Nintendo to deliver a great library of games with their systems, they should follow Nintendo blindly over the cliff they were headed towards with the Gamecube.

Sony=Yet to see it, but they probably stole the show with Kz2 and MGS4. CHances are it's 99% droaning on about PS2 sales though.

MegaPigeon

[QUOTE="ApocalypseXIVV"][QUOTE="Timesplitter14"][QUOTE="ApocalypseXIVV"]

In all this is my evaluation of E3

Sony - 7/10 (not too many new IP's, but just showing MGS was enough for most along with Killzone which looks great graphically)

Nintendo - 6/10 (tried too hard to push their online which still is crappy...Mario kart looks the same as Double Dash?!? come on nintendo)

MS - 4/10 (Worst of them all, and i love my 360...but no Banjo? no Bioshock? thats my most anticipated game of the year...and Halo doesnt look too stunning)

Winner: Sony (by default though...Killzone pretty much gave them the win)

Loser: People who got excited for this...including me. Almost no new IP's announced from any company...basically just a rundown of each companies 2007 lineup...whooopie dooo im already excited for these games...show me something new to look foward too.

I thought this E3 was a steaming pile of crap and looks like next year its pretty much over...Extremely dissapointing attempt from all companies

ANyone else feel this?

Winner: Sony (killzone 2 gave it to them but besides that they kind of win by default)

Timesplitter14

I was VERY satisfied with this E3, but maybe it's because I think KZ2 is the most impressive game ever, both graphically and gameplay-wise (according to the trailers, of course)

thats why i gave sony the W...personally if not for killzone it would be Sony=Nintendo>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>MS

Killzone was the standout of the show...but i wouldnt call it the most impressive game gameplay wise...Bioshock has the most impressive gameplay just with the idea of the game...But killzone looks great

I think Bioshock is way too slow (by gameplay I don't mean innovation, just gameplay). I think KZ2looks likethe most immersive game ever.

See thats why i like Bioshock...its not just run and gun...if i wanted run and gun i would get Halo (which i will). But bioshock is the thinking mans game...you have to plan your attack, mix items, hack into machines, and use the enviornment to your advantage. Nothing is more immersive when you feel that everything you see can be used to defear your enemy..(For instance moving enemys traps to trap them, hacking into turrets to kill foes for you, lighting a teddy bear on fire and usuing it as a weapon...using telekenisis on enemy grenades to turn them against the enemy...Killzone looks great graphically, but i dont think its gameplay will be what its known for...

[QUOTE="MegaPigeon"]

Sony=Yet to see it, but they probably stole the show with Kz2 and MGS4. CHances are it's 99% droaning on about PS2 sales though.

Ezgam3r

Acutally there was

Gamers forget that these are trade shows designed to intice the retail markets and news channels of what to expect in the coming months. MS didnt really show anything new but what they did show was (almost) everything that will be out in time for xmas. THAT is what the retail market wants to see and hear. They dont want...oh it is coming in 08. They want results to pass on to the consumers. From that perspective, MS had the best show. It's all a bunch of PR stuff anyway from all three platforms.

Where I find fault is that MS did not say anything about possibly lowering the price of the unit to compete more with the Wii. Oh well, the new chipset should be out in time for xmas and perhaps they will lower the price right before the all important buying season.

Sony had a really good showing of games that wont be out for another year (maybe more). I didn't watch any of the nintendo show but from what I have read at least one of my favorite franchise will continue on the wii. Mario Kart looks to be as fun as any other MK title. I like the idea of a psp "lite" but I would rather have access to the PS store from my existing PSP.

skyvader

Totally agree. None of the three were really aimed at all at the Fanboys in System Wars or even the gaming press looking for someone to "win" it this year. They were all aimed a Developers and Retail first and then to some extent the press. Nintendo and Microsoft all were pushing their advantages HARD to get people in game development to want to concentrate on their platforms and stores to favor them. The more games that come out for each, the more that get sold and the more each one makes. That is where the money is. Microsoft was pushing a huge next gen lead in games soldand the massive holiday it may get and Nintendo was pushing its huge handheld and hardware leads with the expanded audience it is creating. Sony was in total catch up mode. That is why they were throwing everying but the kitchen sink out there, trying to create excitement and get some traction on time exclusives and their home service. They need to gain ground on the two other companies. and not get written off by the developers and publishers. So each came out with a serious business objective. Each sort of did its job. When fan boys and writers grade these or look for the win based on buzz, they are ignoring the high stakes game that got played for developers and retail, not them. THey through in enough nuggets for the press so they get coverage on games, but they are really pushing the partners they have hard to come to their side.

[QUOTE="-Renegade"]

killzone 2 was being played on stage.

Truth_Hurts_U

So your telling me that the parts of KZ we saw in the trailer yesterday were played the same way today live? I don't think so. No one can play 100% accurate to the trailer we seen. Maybe in the beginning when there was new footage. But how do we know that wasn't an extended version of the trailer we seen yesterday?

G4 said those of us watching it on TV and online had a different video that what was being shown on stage. They did have a guy playing the game on stage and G4 said they thought the part being shown on stage looked better than the trailer we were shown.

[QUOTE="Timstuff"]

I'd rank the shows like this:

Sony > Microsoft >>>>>>>>>>> Nintendo

Seriously, this is Nintendo's worst keynote in YEARS. "Wii Fit?" This piece of casual trash was the crown jewel of their presentation? Where the crap are the games for hardcore gamers? The only thing that Nintendo accomplished at E3 was further demonstrating that they're moving away from hardcore gaming. The "family toy" market is greener pastures to them, and so they're dumping the hardcore market like we're an ugly prom date.

ithilgore2006

And who was buying Nintendo products before Wii? It was hardcore gamers and little kids. I don't know if you've been around long enough to remember, but I used to be quite the hardcore Nintendo fanboy back in the day. And you know what? The instant I saw Wii, it made me want to puke. And my doubt of Wii has been well justified so far, because all Nintendo seems keen on making for Wii is garbage that I'm not interested in.

G4 said those of us watching it on TV and online had a different video that what was being shown on stage. They did have a guy playing the game on stage and G4 said they thought the part being shown on stage looked better than the trailer we were shown.

Thrice_III

I was watching GS feed. Why have 2 differnt feeds?

[QUOTE="Banhammer3000"]

You talk about sequels and rehashes and then you mention Dragon quest and phoenix right and a lot of mediocre RPG really thats what I'm talking about most of those games are bad and you know it.

NorthlandMan

No i talk about remakes and ports. and although phoenix wright is a remake of an old japanese only GBA game, just like Dracula X it was never releeased in the west. Sequels are something different, but you wouldn't know what that is being a PSP owner and having to make do with ports.

Ninja gaiden,Draogn quest and Zelda holds but the rest of those games are unknown and Heroes of mana don't look like the mayor Ds killer app,In fact Ds only has 2 worth buying games coming while the PSP has at least 5.

Banhammer3000

:lol: poor deluded PSP fanboys and their flop handheld. You go on about a Final Fantasy 7 spinoff as if it's the best thing ever (OMFG it's like dirge of cerberus teh ownage!!!!) and then you complain that no-one knows what Advance Wars, Front Mission or Contra 4 are. Here's a thought son, Maybe you can start complaining about the quality of a series when you've been playing games for more than 2 years

Also ASH is a new game from the maker of Final Fantasy. You know that old NES game that recently got a port on the PSP :lol:

Really the DS=/= the GBA.In fact Ds like the wii didn't deliver the Old Nintendo Experience,Ds is really going casual those RPG are quite bad.

Really Ds has potential but it seems Nintendo rather grab the casual market instead of bringing us more cool games,Ds could do a House of the dead but we aren't going to see it.Also some of the RPG DS have could be done in the GBA.

Banhammer3000

So what you're saying is that games like NSMB DS, Yoshis Island 2, Tetris, Starfox and Zelda do not deliver the old Nintendo experience? You must be some kind of genius!!!!!!

and you're right. The DS is not like the GBA, it is far better. Anyone gamer worth his salt knows this, fanboys who follow brand names and lack any thoughts of their own do not

Really PSP while under looked it has one of the best great games maybe you should give it a try now that is redesigned.Sony failed to announce the original PSP maybe these redesign will bring the PSP back in track.I recommend you Pursuit force is like Crackdown but good

Weird I think i had this same conversation not long ago,Deja vu.

Banhammer3000

The only people that'll be impressed by a slightly thinner version of a flop handheld will be the fanboys that bought the original in the first place (to play crap like "pursuit force").The redesign does not go far enough and looks to suffer from much of the same problems of the original so it'll no doubt be a failure like the original as well

Wow troll much,First I doubt you have ever played GBA games,While yeah some of them were Snes ports they did they job and bring us back to the Gaming Golden era but the Ds what you Get Brain age,Sodoku and 5th graders homework?,Really You just slapped Nintendo with that claim,Is not far better in fact it was a step backwards to the original Nintendo.

If you support all the crap Nintendo does you only get more crap.Try to play more GBA Games.Check the top rated list.Ds games like yoshi island could be played in the GBA without any problem so there isn't any innovation there,Starfox ds was just a mere soul less spin off to the series,It didn't provide a depth strategical gamplay or the Rad Starfox 64 we were all expecting.I can believe you like that sort of games,really you taste in game sis just awful

-5 for not even mentioning March of the Minis of Metroid.

Now You haven't even play the have and you say its crap?,Really is the kind of mindless reply from fanboy,I guess is what fanboys do when they don't have an argument and really you sounded really desperate for an argument there how sad is that.You cant judge a game you haven't played and if arguments like that game is crap is the best you can say I don't think you have the necessary level to talk with me or sustain any sort of argument

Most of your post is trolling if you don't want to sub-stain an intelligent argument and just bash the PSP well sad for you,Most of the games you are hyping are uninspired RPG how sad is that also that Phoenix right have 5 games in less than one year.If you don't consider that bad well...

The fact is that the PSP is getting more games from famous companies such as Konami,Capcom and a Strong first party the Ds only has 3 worth buying games and thats it.

Really you give Ds owners everywhere a bad name.BTW most of the DS suck just check Metacritic ;).

Ownage.

I don't think any of the conferences were very good, but nintnedo's was the worst. where were the good games? the only really exciting announcement was Mario KartBuryMe

They never even told us how many players could be online in Mario Kart. They just said "stay tuned"

How about this, tell us now!!

(maybe they did announce the number of players online, but I didn't hear anything)

[QUOTE="ithilgore2006"][QUOTE="Timstuff"]

I'd rank the shows like this:

Sony > Microsoft >>>>>>>>>>> Nintendo

Seriously, this is Nintendo's worst keynote in YEARS. "Wii Fit?" This piece of casual trash was the crown jewel of their presentation? Where the crap are the games for hardcore gamers? The only thing that Nintendo accomplished at E3 was further demonstrating that they're moving away from hardcore gaming. The "family toy" market is greener pastures to them, and so they're dumping the hardcore market like we're an ugly prom date.

Timstuff

And who was buying Nintendo products before Wii? It was hardcore gamers and little kids. I don't know if you've been around long enough to remember, but I used to be quite the hardcore Nintendo fanboy back in the day. And you know what? The instant I saw Wii, it made me want to puke. And my doubt of Wii has been well justified so far, because all Nintendo seems keen on making for Wii is garbage that I'm not interested in.

Your lack of interest does not make it garbage.

[QUOTE="ithilgore2006"][QUOTE="Timstuff"]

I'd rank the shows like this:

Sony > Microsoft >>>>>>>>>>> Nintendo

Seriously, this is Nintendo's worst keynote in YEARS. "Wii Fit?" This piece of casual trash was the crown jewel of their presentation? Where the crap are the games for hardcore gamers? The only thing that Nintendo accomplished at E3 was further demonstrating that they're moving away from hardcore gaming. The "family toy" market is greener pastures to them, and so they're dumping the hardcore market like we're an ugly prom date.

cheezisgoooood

Lol. It's never Nintendo's fault is it? Of course hardcore gamers should be blamed, they shouldn't expect Nintendo to deliver a great library of games with their systems, they should follow Nintendo blindly over the cliff they were headed towards with the Gamecube.

Was having hordes of AAAs, as well as one of the best games of all time isn't a great library?

Nintendo: The Wii Zapper look weird but otherwise seem fun to use. I can't wait for Mario Kart Wii! I also getting more excited for MP3, SSBB, and SMG. Through I wish they talk about BWii. I really want more info about it. And I not going to really care about WiiFits.

Sony: Nothing really was exciting to me that much other then the new PSP and a couple of games.

Microsoft: Like Sony there wasn't really much that excited to me, butCoD4 look nice.

[QUOTE="ithilgore2006"][QUOTE="Timstuff"]

I'd rank the shows like this:

Sony > Microsoft >>>>>>>>>>> Nintendo

Seriously, this is Nintendo's worst keynote in YEARS. "Wii Fit?" This piece of casual trash was the crown jewel of their presentation? Where the crap are the games for hardcore gamers? The only thing that Nintendo accomplished at E3 was further demonstrating that they're moving away from hardcore gaming. The "family toy" market is greener pastures to them, and so they're dumping the hardcore market like we're an ugly prom date.

Timstuff

And who was buying Nintendo products before Wii? It was hardcore gamers and little kids. I don't know if you've been around long enough to remember, but I used to be quite the hardcore Nintendo fanboy back in the day. And you know what? The instant I saw Wii, it made me want to puke. And my doubt of Wii has been well justified so far, because all Nintendo seems keen on making for Wii is garbage that I'm not interested in.

Nintendo embarassed me as a Wii owner. They can go to....well you know.MikeE21286

1. Sony

2.Nintendo

3.Microsoft

Is it me or did i detect a hint of arrogance from Reggie

none of them were very good, but in terms of slick presentation:

1) sony

2) nintendo

3) microsoft

nintendo and microsoft's conferences were more like shareholders meetings than a showcase for new games

Here's a summary of the conferences and the pros & cons.

Conference Summary

Microsoft = More games now

Nintendo = More accessories

Sony = More waiting

These summaries are simple, but they are accurate and unbiased.

Conference Pros / Cons

Microsoft

Pros = They announced products that will be available this year only besides RE5. They're widening their "hardcore" userbase by introducing products like Scene It with new controllers to become more family friendly.

Cons = By showing products only coming out this year, they left the excitement that would've came for the products they're currently working on and will be release the following years.

Nintendo

Pros = They announced the mass appeal of their products and business growth. They continued to show how innovative they can be by introducing new accessories.

Cons = They kinda over did it when they kept on showing news of their success with viral videos, news, and tv show clips.

Sony

Pros = They showed lots of games for each one of their platforms. Once again they showed the potential for their products.

Cons = Most of the products they showed will not be out this year. Most of the games they announced exclusive were really not exclusive.



If you take away the smoke and mirrors from each conference you would realize which company will provide their consumers with their products this year. All of these companies have potential, but potential means nothing if they don't deliver. So the bottom line is that you could have a good conference showing, but a good conference showing doesn't necessarily mean success.

[QUOTE="Thrice_III"]

G4 said those of us watching it on TV and online had a different video that what was being shown on stage. They did have a guy playing the game on stage and G4 said they thought the part being shown on stage looked better than the trailer we were shown.

Truth_Hurts_U

I was watching GS feed. Why have 2 differnt feeds?

GS feed was the same as the G4 feed.

But for some reason the people at the event saw the guy playing the game, while we didn't. Hence the sound during our trailer was what was being played there.

GS feed was the same as the G4 feed.

But for some reason the people at the event saw the guy playing the game, while we didn't. Hence the sound during our trailer was what was being played there.

Thrice_III

Wonder what they were trying to hide?

Yes, because the hardcores sure bought the GC in droves didn;t they? When Nintendo gave them what they wanted, they did nothing, yet now they're complaining that Nintendo's "abandoning" them.
ithilgore2006

Best parts of each conference... (not game related)

Microsoft - When Reggie Bush said he knows that the microsoft guys like to cheat.

Nintendo - Reggie getting his body mass index measured and then it coming out that he is overweight. He responds by saying, "remember muscle weighs more than fat".

Sony - Jack doing his own Riiiidge Racer.(should have had Kaz do it himself) and Jack awkardly saying that they should invite the "hot chicks" from outside into his Home area.

[QUOTE="Thrice_III"]GS feed was the same as the G4 feed.

But for some reason the people at the event saw the guy playing the game, while we didn't. Hence the sound during our trailer was what was being played there.

Truth_Hurts_U

Wonder what they were trying to hide?

???

Read my first post, which you responded to. The G4 guys said the onstage game that they saw looked better than the trailer we were shown.

[QUOTE="Truth_Hurts_U"][QUOTE="Thrice_III"]GS feed was the same as the G4 feed.

But for some reason the people at the event saw the guy playing the game, while we didn't. Hence the sound during our trailer was what was being played there.

Thrice_III

Wonder what they were trying to hide?

???

Read my first post, which you responded to. The G4 guys said the onstage game that they saw looked better than the trailer we were shown.

Then why not show it? Did something happen? Tech issue. I know at E305 MS deleted part of their conf because Sony fanboys where yelling... From what I was told.

[QUOTE="Thrice_III"][QUOTE="Truth_Hurts_U"][QUOTE="Thrice_III"]GS feed was the same as the G4 feed.

But for some reason the people at the event saw the guy playing the game, while we didn't. Hence the sound during our trailer was what was being played there.

Truth_Hurts_U

Wonder what they were trying to hide?

???

Read my first post, which you responded to. The G4 guys said the onstage game that they saw looked better than the trailer we were shown.

Then why not show it? Did something happen? Tech issue. I know at E305 MS deleted part of their conf because Sony fanboys where yelling... From what I was told.

I have no clue? Could be a tech issue because as we were shown the trailer the sound was of the onstage presentation and not the trailer footage we saw.