OFFICIAL: Should the GTA 4 DLC count in system wars

We should all be pretty sure that the DLC will score a 9 but should it count in system wars?

Personally I would say no because its not a new game and it would only be fair that the DLC for Sony games also count (warhawk and MGS4)

Of course, not only is it exclusive content, but it adds 10-12 hours of gameplay, which some people pay 60 bucks for. I say yes it does count, it is a great addition, that is if you have an xbox 360. Not to tramp on sony fans, but if a game has more to offer on one console verusus the next, then yes I would consider that an element when purchasing which copy of the game I come home with. Cybiotik

[QUOTE="Cybiotik"]Of course, not only is it exclusive content, but it adds 10-12 hours of gameplay, which some people pay 60 bucks for. I say yes it does count, it is a great addition, that is if you have an xbox 360. Not to tramp on sony fans, but if a game has more to offer on one console verusus the next, then yes I would consider that an element when purchasing which copy of the game I come home with. Panther501

Warhawk and MGS4 are both exclusive games, and the Bioshock content isnt that impressive. I am not counting the Mythic Map Pack for Halo 3 as "OMFG Exclusives" ...but, this is a considerable package...a full game even.

No, why would it? Its like Braid or Wipeout HD, its a downloadable game, they arent counted with full games.EVOLV3

[QUOTE="Panther501"][QUOTE="Cybiotik"]Of course, not only is it exclusive content, but it adds 10-12 hours of gameplay, which some people pay 60 bucks for. I say yes it does count, it is a great addition, that is if you have an xbox 360. Not to tramp on sony fans, but if a game has more to offer on one console verusus the next, then yes I would consider that an element when purchasing which copy of the game I come home with. Cybiotik

Warhawk and MGS4 are both exclusive games, and the Bioshock content isnt that impressive. I am not counting the Mythic Map Pack for Halo 3 as "OMFG Exclusives" ...but, this is a considerable package...a full game even.

[QUOTE="EVOLV3"]No, why would it? Its like Braid or Wipeout HD, its a downloadable game, they arent counted with full games.Panther501

[QUOTE="Panther501"][QUOTE="EVOLV3"]No, why would it? Its like Braid or Wipeout HD, its a downloadable game, they arent counted with full games.EVOLV3

No, why would it? Its like Braid or Wipeout HD, its a downloadable game, they arent counted with full games.EVOLV3

Yes, but doesn't matter because GS didn't "review" it.Master-Thief-09

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[QUOTE="Panther501"] but what about the DLC's for Warhawk, MGS4, and Bioshock? shouldn't they count too?Panther501

Warhawk and MGS4 are both exclusive games, and the Bioshock content isnt that impressive. I am not counting the Mythic Map Pack for Halo 3 as "OMFG Exclusives" ...but, this is a considerable package...a full game even.

Yeah but those are PS3 exclusives...the customer can only buy it on the PS3...its not a shared game like GTA. Its like this...lets say you have GTA PS3 and GTA 360, if you had both consoles...wouldn't you buy the one that is going to give you a choice for exclusive content...especially if you are a GTA fan. I have GTA3, Vice City and San Andreas for PS2. But when I heard the content for the 360 was exlcusive...well I bought the 360 version. See?

[QUOTE="Panther501"][QUOTE="Cybiotik"]

Warhawk and MGS4 are both exclusive games, and the Bioshock content isnt that impressive. I am not counting the Mythic Map Pack for Halo 3 as "OMFG Exclusives" ...but, this is a considerable package...a full game even.

Cybiotik

Yeah but those are PS3 exclusives...the customer can only buy it on the PS3...its not a shared game like GTA. Its like this...lets say you have GTA PS3 and GTA 360, if you had both consoles...wouldn't you buy the one that is going to give you a choice for exclusive content...especially if you are a GTA fan. I have GTA3, Vice City and San Andreas for PS2. But when I heard the content for the 360 was exlcusive...well I bought the 360 version. See?

[QUOTE="user_nat"]It's not going to be reviewed, but if it was I don't see why it wouldn't count. Its an expansion pack, they always count on the PC, why not on consoles?Panther501

what do they add?

[QUOTE="Panther501"][QUOTE="user_nat"]It's not going to be reviewed, but if it was I don't see why it wouldn't count. Its an expansion pack, they always count on the PC, why not on consoles?CaseyWegner

what do they add?

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="Panther501"] ok so then lets count the expansion packs for the Sony gamesPanther501

what do they add?

That's not really additional story though.

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="Panther501"] ok so then lets count the expansion packs for the Sony gamesPanther501

what do they add?

and what does the lost and the damned add?

[QUOTE="Panther501"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

what do they add?

CaseyWegner

and what does the lost and the damned add?

no i dont think so

even if it does add on 10-20 hours of the same gameplay and comes with a fancy little box

[QUOTE="Panther501"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

what do they add?

Lionheart08

That's not really additional story though.

That's what I was going to say.

Maps, weapons, and modes are to be expected. A new ten hour story mode is another game as far as I am concerned.

But I know it will be a well argued debate from either side. At the end of the day, it will be a reason to own a 360 for pontential customers despite what System Wars thinks (kinda like games that 360 shares with PC).

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="Panther501"] warhawk for example adds new maps, weapons, modes, etc. same with MGS4. so if gamespot isn't going to review that content but they review the lost and the dammed, how would that be fair?Panther501

and what does the lost and the damned add?

and what does the lost and the damned add?

No, why would it? Its like Braid or Wipeout HD, its a downloadable game, they arent counted with full games.EVOLV3

It really shouldn't matter where you get it from, if it has a beginning and end, it should be recognized as a full game.

The GTA DLC is not a full game and should not be counted. It's basically an expansion pack.

And a pretty good one at that.

then we'd count LBP DLC, as well?

then i'd personally give LBP a 10, just for that.

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="Panther501"] warhawk for example adds new maps, weapons, modes, etc. same with MGS4. so if gamespot isn't going to review that content but they review the lost and the dammed, how would that be fair?Panther501

and what does the lost and the damned add?

So a horse armor pack is equivalent to a say a ten hour addition in overall gameplay? (Don't care what the games are or the systems, just answer the question)

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

and what does the lost and the damned add?

Panther501

The Lost and the Damned adds alot more and tells a different story. It is not just DLC, but an Expansion pack

then we'd count LBP DLC, as well?

then i'd personally give LBP a 10, just for that.

joopyme

Yes exactly, if you're going to count GTA IV DLC you might as well count the MGS4 DLC for LBP.

So if say.. Wrath of the Lich King, an expansion pack, was released exclusively on Steam it would no longer count as an AAAE for the PC? I haven't actually played Lost and Damned (and I don't plan to), but my understanding of what it contains is much more then simple DLC, like a map pack or new swimsuits. You also can purchase L&D at retail, in the form of a redeemable download code. None of this actually matters though, because Gamespot has stated they aren't reviewing it.

edit: Random note, Gamespot reviewed shivering isles (the oblivion expansion), that was available as an XBLM download.

Even if it were to get a score here (I doubt that'll happen), I don't see how it could be counted while still excluding XBLA, PSN, and WiiWare offerings. sonicmj1

Don't XBLA games get rated...yes they do, they are full games...not super next gen graphics...but full games. TLD is a full story, just like any other game.

No GS review so how can it "count"?

Its considered DLC and DLC don't count 'round these parts...

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="Panther501"] warhawk for example adds new maps, weapons, modes, etc. same with MGS4. so if gamespot isn't going to review that content but they review the lost and the dammed, how would that be fair?Panther501

and what does the lost and the damned add?

That's your "57% cow" talking.

Thats like saying a racing game with a downloadable car is the same as what Rockstar is planning. They are both DLC...that one new car and this whole new story with new weapons, music, modes, characters, story, etc.