Oh C'mon!! Xbox One controller still uses AA batteries?

Am I the only one who prefers the AA batteries as opposed to the ps3 method? Plugging a controller in to charge sucks balls. Rotating ready to go battery packs is sooooo much better to me. TheEroica

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[QUOTE="Steppy_76"] It's funny. You can spot the people who honestly haven't used the 360. Unless you are using some absolutely bottom of the barrel rechargables, the 360 battery life IS way better than the DS3, and not by a couple hours. That also not counting that most of us have so many things that use AA batteries that you can use interchangeably with the 360. This is certainly a case where the proprietary method is NOT the better option. I can use my 360 controller wired with no battery, wireless with a battery charger, wired to charge the battery, etc etc. I can use the 360 in the exact same manner as the DS3(IE plugging the controller in to charge and play) with a cord that is long enough to actually use, OR I have those options.mems_1224

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[QUOTE="lazerface216"]

Nope. 

lazerface216

There is at least one other poster with this attitude:

lol, is this discussion really happening? You idiots have a hard time deciding what best between sometimes wireless or always wireless? A good charger and some eneloops is by far the best option. Thanks MS for not scoring easy points with the dumb (and poor) consumer.

And you can still play with play and charge on x1 also

sebbi11

Meaning he likes rechargable AA's (eneloops) Also also me. 

I bought almost all of my rechargable 1.2V AA's before I even had an Xbox 360. Once I got a 360, I didn't need to change my battery habits at all. 

But you know, I'll play devil's advocate too. The PS3 controllers battery does have a good life, it's easy enough to charge with the USB cable, and you can get longer versions of that cable. 

[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="lazerface216"]lol what options don't you have with the ds3? 

lazerface216

You do know the xbox dOne controller is both wireless and wired now right? You don't even need batteries you can connect it through usb and it runs in wired mode.

WilliamRLBaker

But that cable is not included right?

I don't get why it matters. Both store energy and have to be recharged. I guess they're shaped differently. Big deal.

Is there a good reason for this? My ps3 sixaxis in-built battery pack lasted since launch. Both controllers. That's 6 years already

For my 360 however, I had to buy rechargeable batteries and a charger. And AA rechargeable batteries have a lifespan of about only 1 year (sometimes less). Then it gets flat every 2 days. Then I resorted to buying non-rechargeable AA batteries because they don't suddenly get flat. And buying batteries over the course of so many years does indeed cost money.

It's 2013 and MS is still using this archaic method? And no, that bullshit excuse about having to replace the whole controller when an in-built battery pack fails, is no longer a valid argument. We have a precedent case, and that argument was MS's rubbish excuse. In-built battery packs lasts longer than the controller itself.

jhcho2

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[QUOTE="mems_1224"]you cant easily swap out the battery if it dies on you. mems_1224

[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="lazerface216"]...but you have the option to hook it up and continue playing. what's the issue? and where is xbone's upper hand here?

lazerface216

[QUOTE="TheEroica"]Am I the only one who prefers the AA batteries as opposed to the ps3 method? Plugging a controller in to charge sucks balls. Rotating ready to go battery packs is sooooo much better to me. NathanDrakeSwag

I prefer not wasting money.

[QUOTE="YoshiYogurt"][QUOTE="NathanDrakeSwag"]

Either batteries or you can buy the other half of the controller for $25 :lol:

AncientDozer

LOL AA batteries in this next gen. 

Oh cmon lems, you can't be defending that.

That's beyond pathetic.  

Ribnarak

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[QUOTE="TheEroica"]Am I the only one who prefers the AA batteries as opposed to the ps3 method? Plugging a controller in to charge sucks balls. Rotating ready to go battery packs is sooooo much better to me. TheEroica

I prefer not wasting money.

[QUOTE="TheEroica"][QUOTE="NathanDrakeSwag"]

I prefer not wasting money.

lazerface216

[QUOTE="TheEroica"]Am I the only one who prefers the AA batteries as opposed to the ps3 method? Plugging a controller in to charge sucks balls. Rotating ready to go battery packs is sooooo much better to me. Phazevariance

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]Good, they last twice as long as the pathetic battery in the dualshock :cool:Infinite_Access

Nah he's right. The batteries in the DS3 last for about 10-14 hours of gaming before they need to be recharged. A good set of rechargeables give me between 25-30 hours of gaming with the 360 controller. Both are depending on how much rumble is used of course.

Personally both controllers are fine, and I really don't get why people argue about this. A good set of rechargeable batteries and a charger cost about $12. It takes 30 seconds to get up and swap out the batteries. Plugging in a DS3 and sitting with a wire hooked up to it for 2 hours sucks, but it's really no big deal. 

[QUOTE="TheEroica"]Am I the only one who prefers the AA batteries as opposed to the ps3 method? Plugging a controller in to charge sucks balls. Rotating ready to go battery packs is sooooo much better to me. tagyhag

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[QUOTE="mems_1224"] the option to hook it back up and play 2 feet away from your tv screen? sounds like a shitty option. replaceable battery slot and being able to use AA batteries or a rechargeable battery pack>>>>>>>>>having to buy a new controller if your batter dies. thought that would be common sense mems_1224

I can't even get 5 hours out of my Dualshock 3 controller after 5 years. I can only get around close to 4 hours after charging it for hours. My 360 controller using a charge pack I bought 4 years ago last about three times longer. You don't have to charge as much using ni-cads because they hold a charge longer. Also those delithum batteries in the PS3 aren't going to last more than 10 years. 

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[QUOTE="TheEroica"] I paid 15$ to have a controller always charged and ready to go all generation.... Money well spent. mems_1224

[QUOTE="AncientDozer"][QUOTE="YoshiYogurt"] Those charge packs are POS too. They don't charge half the time and they only start charging after you jump start them by plugging in the charger in and out 20 times. M$ just sells you pure shit that doesn't' work.lazerface216

[QUOTE="Infinite_Access"][QUOTE="RR360DD"]Good, they last twice as long as the pathetic battery in the dualshock :cool:coasterguy65

Nah he's right. The batteries in the DS3 last for about 10-14 hours of gaming before they need to be recharged. A good set of rechargeables give me between 25-30 hours of gaming with the 360 controller. Both are depending on how much rumble is used of course.

Personally both controllers are fine, and I really don't get why people argue about this. A good set of rechargeable batteries and a charger cost about $12. It takes 30 seconds to get up and swap out the batteries. Plugging in a DS3 and sitting with a wire hooked up to it for 2 hours sucks, but it's really no big deal. 

[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="lazerface216"]you can buy a much longer cord for dirt cheap. lol so it's ok to pony up 20 bucks for a play and charge kit but a 99 cent usb cord is a negative for the ps4? hmmm....

lazerface216

[QUOTE="tagyhag"][QUOTE="TheEroica"]Am I the only one who prefers the AA batteries as opposed to the ps3 method? Plugging a controller in to charge sucks balls. Rotating ready to go battery packs is sooooo much better to me. TheEroica

didn't know you had a ps3 btw.

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[QUOTE="mems_1224"] you can get charging kits cheap too. so how is that a negative again?mems_1224

One thing Ive done over the years on both the ps3 con and 360 cons is removed the rumble motors completely *ps3 con sadly the are soldered in so snip the 360 con the plug in* not only does it save on power but weight as well.

I can't even get 5 hours out of my Dualshock 3 controller after 5 years. I can only get around close to 4 hours after charging it for hours. My 360 controller using a charge pack I bought 4 years ago last about three times longer. You don't have to charge as much using ni-cads because they hold a charge longer. Also those delithum batteries in the PS3 aren't going to last more than 10 years. 

xhawk27

[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="lazerface216"]20 bucks is what the national average is, i'll take the 2 dollar cord (which i can also use on other things), but that's just me. what is your point again? honest question. that buying batteries is better than recharging your controller? you won't get many consumers on that bandwagon. keep keepin' on brother.

lazerface216

[QUOTE="TheEroica"][QUOTE="tagyhag"] I like Sony's method. Only problem is that the cable is f*cking short as balls.lazerface216

didn't know you had a ps3 btw.

[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="jhcho2"]

Is there a good reason for this? My ps3 sixaxis in-built battery pack lasted since launch. Both controllers. That's 6 years already

For my 360 however, I had to buy rechargeable batteries and a charger. And AA rechargeable batteries have a lifespan of about only 1 year (sometimes less). Then it gets flat every 2 days. Then I resorted to buying non-rechargeable AA batteries because they don't suddenly get flat. And buying batteries over the course of so many years does indeed cost money.

It's 2013 and MS is still using this archaic method? And no, that bullshit excuse about having to replace the whole controller when an in-built battery pack fails, is no longer a valid argument. We have a precedent case, and that argument was MS's rubbish excuse. In-built battery packs lasts longer than the controller itself.

AncientDozer

I with that they would make a 1.5V rechargable AA - whose battery chemistry were Lithium Ion. Now that would be awesome. 

NiMH / NiCd are pretty excellent. However, as they lose their charge capacity - the voltage drops a bit. Lithium Ion doesn't do this. This is one of the reasons why, when the charge gets a bit low with the 360 controller, a rumble might turn the controller off - too much current draw for the battery capacity and the columbs can't keep up (a guess). 

Problem is though, if the individual cells within the Li Ion battery are not balanced during charging, there can be an explosion. 

Also, as William says - you can fit more capacity per unit of volume in a lithium ion than a NiMH/NiCd, therefore such a Li Ion could have a very long lifespan, but would have the external appearance of a standard AA battery. 

Lithium Ion is great, but not without it's problems. One of the main ones being the expense of that third element on the periodic table...

Bring them on I say. 

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[QUOTE="mems_1224"] I got two charge kits for $15 once. you should learn how to shop better. my point is that having options>>>>>>>>>>not having options mems_1224

[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="lazerface216"]lmao you seem to be the best shopper in the world. you should make a shopping blog, or something.

lazerface216

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[QUOTE="TheEroica"] Yes! And I game in a room that has ps3 on the other side of the room, so in short, when the ps3 controller crops out, I have to stop gaming. Yuk. I spent 15 bucks on a nyko charge station which came with an extra battery pack and two charge slots. When my 360 controller dies I just swap out the next charged battery. Easy. WilliamRLBaker

didn't know you had a ps3 btw.

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[QUOTE="mems_1224"] dont have to. there are already plenty out there. how do you think people find those deals? Also, if you think that a $20 charging kit is too much money then you picked the wrong hobby bro. mems_1224

rechargeable controller>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>duracells or $20 play and charge kits

ya dig?

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[QUOTE="Infinite_Access"] bullshit :cool:delta3074

Nah he's right. The batteries in the DS3 last for about 10-14 hours of gaming before they need to be recharged. A good set of rechargeables give me between 25-30 hours of gaming with the 360 controller. Both are depending on how much rumble is used of course.

Personally both controllers are fine, and I really don't get why people argue about this. A good set of rechargeable batteries and a charger cost about $12. It takes 30 seconds to get up and swap out the batteries. Plugging in a DS3 and sitting with a wire hooked up to it for 2 hours sucks, but it's really no big deal. 

Nah you misread it Delta.....Both of my DualShock 3 controllers last about 10-14 hours before the battery needs to be recharged. Closer to 12 on average.

The rechargeable batteries I use in my 360 controller get between 25-30. Closer to 30 to be honest.

[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="lazerface216"]i never once said that 20 bucks was too much, i said that 2 bucks is better, bro.

lazerface216

rechargeable controller>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>duracells or $20 play and charge kits

ya dig?

I with that they would make a 1.5V rechargable AA - whose battery chemistry were Lithium Ion. Now that would be awesome. 

NiMH / NiCd are pretty excellent. However, as they lose their charge capacity - the voltage drops a bit. Lithium Ion doesn't do this. This is one of the reasons why, when the charge gets a bit low with the 360 controller, a rumble might turn the controller off - too much current draw for the battery capacity and the columbs can't keep up (a guess). 

Problem is though, if the individual cells within the Li Ion battery are not balanced during charging, there can be an explosion. 

Also, as William says - you can fit more capacity per unit of volume in a lithium ion than a NiMH/NiCd, therefore such a Li Ion could have a very long lifespan, but would have the external appearance of a standard AA battery. 

Lithium Ion is great, but not without it's problems. One of the main ones being the expense of that third element on the periodic table...

Bring them on I say. 

psymon100

[QUOTE="TheEroica"][QUOTE="NathanDrakeSwag"]

I prefer not wasting money.

lazerface216

As for the "You don't have one" PS3 comment... uh, tell that to the 30 hours of Dragon's Crown I played this week.  I'm a level 28 Elf, nearly decked out in "S" armor and I have 5 of the 9 seals to finish the game.... all this on my made up PS3 :P

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[QUOTE="mems_1224"] not better than having multiple options bruh. mems_1224

rechargeable controller>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>duracells or $20 play and charge kits

ya dig?

[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="lazerface216"]lol options? hooked and unhooked, wow. my point stands. i'll do it like you...

rechargeable controller>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>duracells or $20 play and charge kits

ya dig?

lazerface216

[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="lazerface216"]lol options? hooked and unhooked, wow. my point stands. i'll do it like you...

rechargeable controller>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>duracells or $20 play and charge kits

ya dig?

lazerface216

[QUOTE="lazerface216"]

[QUOTE="TheEroica"] I paid 15$ to have a controller always charged and ready to go all generation.... Money well spent. TheEroica

As for the "You don't have one" PS3 comment... uh, tell that to the 30 hours of Dragon's Crown I played this week.  I'm a level 28 Elf, nearly decked out in "S" armor and I have 5 of the 9 seals to finish the game.... all this on my made up PS3 :P

i also mentioned a few posts back that i honestly didn't realize that you owned a ps3, so calm yo t!ts.

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[QUOTE="mems_1224"] so what happens when if your ps3 battery dies? mems_1224

As for the "You don't have one" PS3 comment... uh, tell that to the 30 hours of Dragon's Crown I played this week.  I'm a level 28 Elf, nearly decked out in "S" armor and I have 5 of the 9 seals to finish the game.... all this on my made up PS3 :P

TheEroica

You really like the game then? I've been debating picking it up. I'm not normally into beat em ups the much, but DC does look interesting.