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[QUOTE="TheGrat1"][QUOTE="LibertySaint"][QUOTE="TheGrat1"][QUOTE="scottiescott238"][QUOTE="TheGrat1"][QUOTE="scottiescott238"]
[QUOTE="TheGrat1"]LibertySaint
http://gameinformer.com/News/Story/200801/N08.0111.1808.50734.htm very little has changed, if anything PS3 has pulled ahead. And with great looking exclusives coming this fall as well as Bioshock PS3 will still be the winner.
So you are trying to say that inside that link ,( which i have just read) proves that the ps3's library is better? cus i didnt see it
Obviously you didnt. It says clear as day: PS3 game average = 73%, 360 game average = 70%, Wii average = 64%. Seeing as only 3 exclusive games came out this year on the big 2 (MGS4, MLB 08 The Show, NG2) and they all did critically well, I doubt this has changed and that PS3 could only have pulled further ahead. IU, ToV, and Disgaea 3 dont count because not all of their reviews are in yet. Don't try to dance around it because your beloved gamerankings proved that people who only have a PS3 have the best overall library to choose from.
Averages? Averages mean nothing, that just creating propaganda. You must be intelligent enough to see that the 360 has a library of 1000 games including xbla games, meaning u have all those crappy shovel ware plus the good games lowering the score. ps3 has what 400 with psn titles meaning less shovel-ware to lower the score. Notice why the wii has the lowest score, it has the most shovel ware.Its like saying a person is dumb as a door knob when they have a average of 50% because they they failed in English but accomplsihed a 100 in math..... sad my friend, sad.
And what are gamerankings scores? :roll: This whole thread is based on gamerankings' aggregate scores to be more reliable that gamespot's so dont try to dismiss it when aggregate scores prove PS3's library is of better overall quality than any other.
Do u know what averages are? This thread is not based on averages! Go back to where u came from and learn what an average is. Listing each explicitcategory and the score in it is not an average, that's the opposite of it! YWhat are you talking about? Did you read the article? It takes EVERY game on each console, including multiplats, and uses its gamerankings score to display the average score for a game on that console. This is really simple I dont see where you have an issue with it.
Stop your whining. There was a lemmings surge recently and nobody made a thread such as this...munu9Actually someone did awhile back....but it wasn't as "good" as this thread, Scottie at least has arguements that make worthy points, he didn't just make this thread to say their are more cows.
A surge of cows? Run for your lives it's a stampede!!!
Anyway this can't be a suprise we all knew that people were going to eventually buy the things even though the past two years have been a comedy of errors over in the Sony camp.
Hell, I even bought one and I knew it was a joke when I picked it up but there was no way I was going to own any other sku than the 60gig.
"What are you talking about? Did you read the article? It takes EVERY game on each console, including multiplats, and uses its gamerankings score to display the average score for a game on that console. This is really simple I dont see where you have an issue with it."
All that stupid crap you just posted doesn't matter, because nobody plays the bad games that drag down the averages. People play the good games and it is undeniable that the 360 has way more good/great games than its competition. You can brag all you want about having "better bad" games but it doesn't matter.
Also just to warn you gamespot has a 5 quote limit here and and one of the punishments here is temporary suspension is you do it more than once.
I know this as it happened to me... twice... :P
Dont worry I have not told the mods, and I wont, its just that if they do look at this thread they will mod you, and if someone reports to the mods (and there are people who do) then you will be modded.
Recently as many of you must have noticed , there has been a huge surge in cows on system wars.
Every poll or thread will result in a playstation victory due to the sheer number of cows
Now let me remind you what its all about , the real bragging rights, the real reason my console is better than yours.
The games
going by gamerankings, a site that no1 can argue with(well im sure you'l try) , here are some stats
AAA+
360 - 12 (14 including braid and geometry wars 2)
Ps3 - 5
Wii- 5
AA+
360 - 96
PS3 - 48
Wii- 18
A+ -
360 -203
PS3 - 87
wii - 57
So thus concludes, if you are a gamer and you want to play the best games and experience the best choice of games,
then i suggest you get an xbox360 , and if you want a good choice of games dont get a wii.
Flame time!
scottiescott238
yey! the point we have al been missing is back, the 800lb gorilla in the corner of SW, then again people just vigoursly deny there facts then make up lame excuses.
the truth is that the numbers speak for themselvs. ]
P.S. if you did the PC (from the begining of this gen, thats the 360launch) then it woul clearly show why the PC is king, the games.
[QUOTE="LibertySaint"][QUOTE="TheGrat1"][QUOTE="LibertySaint"][QUOTE="TheGrat1"][QUOTE="scottiescott238"][QUOTE="TheGrat1"][QUOTE="scottiescott238"]
[QUOTE="TheGrat1"]TheGrat1
http://gameinformer.com/News/Story/200801/N08.0111.1808.50734.htm very little has changed, if anything PS3 has pulled ahead. And with great looking exclusives coming this fall as well as Bioshock PS3 will still be the winner.
So you are trying to say that inside that link ,( which i have just read) proves that the ps3's library is better? cus i didnt see it
Obviously you didnt. It says clear as day: PS3 game average = 73%, 360 game average = 70%, Wii average = 64%. Seeing as only 3 exclusive games came out this year on the big 2 (MGS4, MLB 08 The Show, NG2) and they all did critically well, I doubt this has changed and that PS3 could only have pulled further ahead. IU, ToV, and Disgaea 3 dont count because not all of their reviews are in yet. Don't try to dance around it because your beloved gamerankings proved that people who only have a PS3 have the best overall library to choose from.
Averages? Averages mean nothing, that just creating propaganda. You must be intelligent enough to see that the 360 has a library of 1000 games including xbla games, meaning u have all those crappy shovel ware plus the good games lowering the score. ps3 has what 400 with psn titles meaning less shovel-ware to lower the score. Notice why the wii has the lowest score, it has the most shovel ware.Its like saying a person is dumb as a door knob when they have a average of 50% because they they failed in English but accomplsihed a 100 in math..... sad my friend, sad.
And what are gamerankings scores? :roll: This whole thread is based on gamerankings' aggregate scores to be more reliable that gamespot's so dont try to dismiss it when aggregate scores prove PS3's library is of better overall quality than any other.
Do u know what averages are? This thread is not based on averages! Go back to where u came from and learn what an average is. Listing each explicitcategory and the score in it is not an average, that's the opposite of it! YWhat are you talking about? Did you read the article? It takes EVERY game on each console, including multiplats, and uses its gamerankings score to display the average score for a game on that console. This is really simple I dont see where you have an issue with it.
they picked and choose one game for each category and didn't look at the whole library, those averages mean nothing! The fact of the matter is the 360 has more games, it has more AA, AAA and A games, that whole gameinformer article is listing one game and comparing to another different game on the other console (note only one game.) The great thing about the 360 and what the TC said is that the 360 has more games and more good games.gawd just re-look at that article and u will see how choosy the author of it was. Its pretty much propaganda.
[QUOTE="TheGrat1"][QUOTE="LibertySaint"][QUOTE="TheGrat1"][QUOTE="LibertySaint"][QUOTE="TheGrat1"][QUOTE="scottiescott238"][QUOTE="TheGrat1"][QUOTE="scottiescott238"]
[QUOTE="TheGrat1"]LibertySaint
http://gameinformer.com/News/Story/200801/N08.0111.1808.50734.htm very little has changed, if anything PS3 has pulled ahead. And with great looking exclusives coming this fall as well as Bioshock PS3 will still be the winner.
What are you talking about? Did you read the article? It takes EVERY game on each console, including multiplats, and uses its gamerankings score to display the average score for a game on that console. This is really simple I dont see where you have an issue with it.
they picked and choose one game for each category and didn't look at the whole library, those averages mean nothing! The fact of the matter is the 360 has more games, it has more AA, AAA and A games, that whole gameinformer article is listing one game and comparing to another different game on the other console (note only one game.) The great thing about the 360 and what the TC said is that the 360 has more games and more good games.gawd just re-look at that article and u will see how choosy the author of it was. Its pretty much propaganda.
Please, tell me what categorys they picked from? I'm really looking forward to this answer, I need a good laugh.
[QUOTE="scottiescott238"]Recently as many of you must have noticed , there has been a huge surge in cows on system wars.
Every poll or thread will result in a playstation victory due to the sheer number of cows
Now let me remind you what its all about , the real bragging rights, the real reason my console is better than yours.
The games
going by gamerankings, a site that no1 can argue with(well im sure you'l try) , here are some stats
AAA+
360 - 12 (14 including braid and geometry wars 2)
Ps3 - 5
Wii- 5
AA+
360 - 96
PS3 - 48
Wii- 18
A+ -
360 -203
PS3 - 87
wii - 57
So thus concludes, if you are a gamer and you want to play the best games and experience the best choice of games,
then i suggest you get an xbox360 , and if you want a good choice of games dont get a wii.
Flame time!
BoloTheGreat
yey! the point we have al been missing is back, the 800lb gorilla in the corner of SW, then again people just vigoursly deny there facts then make up lame excuses.
the truth is that the numbers speak for themselvs. ]
P.S. if you did the PC (from the begining of this gen, thats the 360launch) then it woul clearly show why the PC is king, the games.
Thanks, i would have done pc but i wanted to compare just the consoles , as the pc takes the others to brown tow.
lol i love how cows are arguing opinion. why are you on a game review site if you dont go by opnions? well since he's using metacritic/gameranking i guess the majority of opinions point to 360 library>ps3 library anyway.
then again if its mgs4 there's no such thing as opinion. its mgs4 /thread.
:lol: at the denial
im not gonna argue the fact the the 360 has some better games, however, the facts that you are showing are misleading, considering that the xbox 360 had a full year for its games that the ps3 didnt have. so while it does have moe AA, and AAA games, there has been an extra year for the 360 that the ps3, and wii did not gettmacscores91
Well...they are still facts, and very much NOT misleading. Who cares if it had a year headstart? It still has more games period...and that's what counts.
That one year headstart thing is overated. It's the PS3...it shopuld have BETTER and MORE games than the 360 despite that headstart. It's Sony FFS :x
lol i love how cows are arguing opinion. why are you on a game review site if you dont go by opnions? well since he's using metacritic/gameranking i guess the majority of opinions point to 360 library>ps3 library anyway.
then again if its mgs4 there's no such thing as opinion. its mgs4 /thread.
:lol: at the denial
mephisto_11
There are a few of us who are not cows nor are we fanboys of a system and we were saying that we use our own opinions instead of going by reviews. Doesn't make us cows or fanboys or anything.
Why are people using Metacritic and Gamerankings? Before MGS4 came out, the lemmings called foul on cows for using them instead of Gamespot. This is Gamespot and we go by Gamespot scores here.Jack_Bauer07we can use either or when presenting an argument ..... they are different issues.
im not gonna argue the fact the the 360 has some better games, however, the facts that you are showing are misleading, considering that the xbox 360 had a full year for its games that the ps3 didnt have. so while it does have moe AA, and AAA games, there has been an extra year for the 360 that the ps3, and wii did not gettmacscores91
But that doesn't matter to a gamer, right? Xbox 360 has the most top rated games period, regardless of how much longer it's been out.
[QUOTE="LibertySaint"][QUOTE="TheGrat1"][QUOTE="LibertySaint"][QUOTE="TheGrat1"][QUOTE="LibertySaint"][QUOTE="TheGrat1"][QUOTE="scottiescott238"][QUOTE="TheGrat1"][QUOTE="scottiescott238"]
[QUOTE="TheGrat1"]TheGrat1
http://gameinformer.com/News/Story/200801/N08.0111.1808.50734.htm very little has changed, if anything PS3 has pulled ahead. And with great looking exclusives coming this fall as well as Bioshock PS3 will still be the winner.
What are you talking about? Did you read the article? It takes EVERY game on each console, including multiplats, and uses its gamerankings score to display the average score for a game on that console. This is really simple I dont see where you have an issue with it.
they picked and choose one game for each category and didn't look at the whole library, those averages mean nothing! The fact of the matter is the 360 has more games, it has more AA, AAA and A games, that whole gameinformer article is listing one game and comparing to another different game on the other console (note only one game.) The great thing about the 360 and what the TC said is that the 360 has more games and more good games.gawd just re-look at that article and u will see how choosy the author of it was. Its pretty much propaganda.
Please, tell me what categorys they picked from? I'm really looking forward to this answer, I need a good laugh.
When i said category i should of said they picked out of nothing, its complete random crap is what it is. When i said categories i meant they boxes they made for each row and column.[QUOTE="ONLYDOD"][QUOTE="LibertySaint"]On system wars, thats what it always seems right? There is no medium on sw only extremes to the people who read the posts. Heck from all this i seem like a lemming right?[QUOTE="ONLYDOD"]
Let me get this straight, your saying that if people prefer the PS3, they are automatically considered a cow, or Playstation fanboy, whatever you want to call it.
LibertySaint
I demand proof.
proof? just look at threads where one person will call the other a fanboy just because they said something the other didn't like.AS well you are asking for the hardest kind of proof. I'll tell you why. On sw anyone can say they are anyone because its the Internet and whats the harm right? So if i put up a poll of who is what fanboy? (which people have done before) Many people do not vote, many people lie (you can tell by there post saying they are lemming and when u look at their posting history it says otherwise.) So it is a very hard and time consuming challenge to get this proof u ask of.
I can provide a link to a thread that asks what system u prefer and that shows that the ps3 is prefered about 3:1 here on SW, also i can link u the thread where the Tc posted a "which is better looking, crysis or heavy rain." and many people said heavy rain, even to the end of that thread and by the end there was 500 people who voted 300 of which voted crysis and the remaining said heavy rain. Like how silly is that? To vote heavy rain, they must of been hardcore fanboys.
so do u want those links? I don't bother to look right now until u say they will suffice.
I demand better proof.
... ..... ...... ........ lol so u don't what those links and refuse to listen to what i said... okay w/e lol, this is SW, that is what most people do.edit: to delete some old quotes.
A few links don't mean much, give me undeniable proof of whatever it was you were trying to prove and i'll believe you.
Why bother arguing that reviews are biased in system wars?
It's not something we'll ever understand. Reviewers could be biased towards the 360. Reviewers could be biased towards certain types of games that appear on the 360. Reviewers could be biased towards the PS3 or the wii for all we know.
I still think rankings give a pretty good idea of how many good games come out for a console, despite the fact that a few games were over or underrated. Unless reviewers have a bias towards a console, there should be a similar number of games that have shoddy reviews.
The PS3 could be getting better games than the 360 in the future. I do think its perfectly legitimate to compare years instead of the whole period overall. But that won't really mean much for us until the end of 2009 and 2010. And to be honest, I probably won't be here then.
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